Started by Lordy_J, Apr 09, 2022, 10:22 PM
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Quote from: Sairek Ceareste on Apr 18, 2022, 02:32 AMIt's an open forum. That's why I'm here.No, I do not own OathRO. I moderate for it voluntarily, but that's all. I moderate the players (and the other staff members so there's no abuse of power), help the players, and make sure the players have their voices heard. Nothing wrong with a server with custom content, by the way. People play on our server and what we advertise is what you get, so I can only assume we have to be doing something right that people like.I'm not "acting" like I'm anything; I'm just being myself. You're the one behaving like an utter prick by insulting people saying they have mental disabilities and treating them less than human because according to you, they are "biased" even though the grammar nazi in me is upset that you are still using the word incorrectly.It's pretty messed up and it is no way helping your argument whatsoever. It is only confirming our stances more and certainly doesn't give off the "great community vibe" that I keep hearing about from people that are on Travels. You're giving the server you are trying to defend an extremely bad look right now when it needs all the help it can get. There are so many different ways you could have approached this, and you are going about it in one of the worst ways you possibly can. You downtalk J, but you are literally doing the exact same thing he does to the point that it doesn't even matter if you're a burner account of his or not because you may as well be one anyways.Why the sudden interest in the server I moderate for, by the way? You're trying to change the topic from J and Travels to myself and OathRO for some reason. I'm not interested in advertising the server I moderate here since it's the incorrect thread and forum for it. We already posted a server ad on the proper RMS forum earlier. We don't need another one. May I ask you to not derail the topic, please? You and J are both being awfully quiet on that picture I posted and I'm still waiting for an answer from you and the guy who's Definitely-Not-J-Wearing-A-Fake-Moustache.
Quote from: lungo on Apr 18, 2022, 03:09 AMYou sound like one of those that are offended by everything and try to appear as some super virtuous beings when in reality they are the ones doing what they are accusing others of doing, they are textbook examples of hypocrisy.People come and attack anyone saying something positive about travels and gaslighting others saying we are all J accounts, I showed proof that I am not and wasn't enough, someone else even came multiple times and said that I am not J and this person is not even my friend and this people still insist on their accusations and you don't care, you don't go lecture them about how they are treating us, some dude here has been passively agressively attacking all the players of TravelsRO and making broad generalizations about them. And you also said nothing, it is only when I point out that they are acting like completely insane people or people with a mental disorder that you come in your high horse (more like a pony) and try to act all mighty and virtue signaling, just f*** off hypocrite.I have been saying multiple times that I don't approve gaming the RMS listing, you people just chose to not read that and pretend I am not addressing it, i did multiple times, i have said also that I don't approve many bans that he did particularly at the end of last year, and i expect he unbans some of those people. And the Reddit stuff i don't care about Reddit, I detest reddit and all mainstream social media anyways and the people that lurk those sites where they are trained to have mob mentality and they believe that truth is a democracy and that the one with more upvotes,likes, hearts etc is right, is an adpopullum fallacy circus.At the end of the day the only thing I don't approve is trying to game the RMS listing that was dumb, now we are not even on the list (for now) but I also don't believe it is something outrageous as all the deranged people here are trying to pass it as, many servers had or have bad history, it's hypocritical to just expect perfection from one server and pretend this is the only case were something like this has happened.I don't approve but I also at the same time don't give a f***, it was dumb and stupid.but not something outrageous i won't pretend it is, he was found out and punished, no need to keep going in circles and pretend is the only server that has been deslisted ever.
Quote from: Shuchou on Apr 18, 2022, 03:32 AMIf you read you will see a number of those that have taken part in this thread has stated that Travels is not the only server to have had drama or 'evil' staff. However you keep trying to play off what was done within the name of travels, blink knight it every turn while trying to fluff your comments. You seem to keep forgetting this thread is about Travels and it's wrong doings, not what every other server has done in the history of RO. Stop being hypocritical within your own posts while dancing on the line of breaking RMS forum rules hoping to bait the next replier to cross it.
Quote from: Sairek Ceareste on Apr 17, 2022, 09:50 PMAh right, there's no evidence at all that could possibly prove that there was the use of burner accounts involved in the manipulation of votes that were defending the serv—
Quote from: Sairek Ceareste on Apr 17, 2022, 09:50 PMShould the mods do something about you saying to people that they have a literal mental disorder, too?
Quote from: lungo on Apr 18, 2022, 03:09 AMI have been saying multiple times that I don't approve gaming the RMS listing
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 18, 2022, 06:18 AMThe idea that Travels gamed the RMS listing hasnt been said by anyone afaik.
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 18, 2022, 07:08 AMAll that means is Travels offended some of the circlejerk/has higher percentage of returnees and new blood which is good. Oath being 94 and 97 for both is much more fishy, or Talon only having 6% reputable
Quote from: Inspector Clouseau on Apr 18, 2022, 06:17 AMIf you check lungo's history, he does seem to be a real person, as he started off with a whole tirade and negative reviews against RetRO last year. It also corroborates with neethree's claims as well. I don't think I'm getting Lord J vibes either. He seems more like your average trashtalker to me. The argument in this thread makes me feel like I'm right in the midst of a heated debate right after WoE.But that said, I don't think the people who continue to argue with him are looking much better either. There came a point a while ago when responding was futile, and now it's just back and forth, countering each statement with what amounts to a "no u", and name calling.lungo, if you really want to help Ragnarok Travels, why don't you write a review? There has not been a proper long review on that server in over eight months. The last review was made before you even registered an account here.I think the discussion on this thread has run its course. Not saying it should be locked, but I don't think there's anything else worthwhile to say unless more evidence is revealed, or there is a particularly stunning argument to be made. Better to just let it sink to obscurity and eventually leave the front page of RMS.
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 18, 2022, 06:18 AMTheres no evidence
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 18, 2022, 06:18 AMWhen are you going to talk about that?
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 18, 2022, 06:18 AMsuffering from LJDS
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 18, 2022, 06:18 AMI think Oath gaming the listing because they got almost as much reviews as Travels in a shorter time
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 18, 2022, 06:18 AMwhy is Retro still listed after they banned lungo for writing a review
Quote from: LumpiaWrapper on Apr 18, 2022, 07:52 AM well at least theyre not buying upvotes. funny enough the retRO have lower pops but became active during woe time, similar to OathRO well theyre mostly active during WOE.
Quote from: Stonerook182 on Apr 18, 2022, 01:10 PMThese "people" (Read: You) crying for evidence, despite plenty already being provided
Quote from: Stonerook182 on Apr 18, 2022, 01:10 PMLook at this garbage. You're literally just attempting to deflect and derail the thread, instead of providing anything even remotely convincing to support your case. Rather, it's just entertaining at this point to see you pulling the same trick time and again. Godspeed, Lord J.
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 18, 2022, 06:18 AMI think Oath gaming the listing because they got almost as much reviews as Travels in a shorter time.
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 18, 2022, 01:46 PMPeople are asking for evidence because none has been presented. Theres no evidence that says those accounts have anything to do with the GMs. Could've been players, could've been someone who doesn't like the cheater guild, could've been anyone.
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 18, 2022, 01:46 PMPeople are asking for evidence because none has been presented
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 18, 2022, 01:46 PMcould've been anyone
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 18, 2022, 01:46 PMyoure creating multiple fake accounts
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 18, 2022, 01:46 PMTravels players just think people like you are sad
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 18, 2022, 01:46 PMyou are a shady burner account that attempts deflect and derail
Quote from: Sairek Ceareste on Apr 18, 2022, 02:29 PMBasically you have no way to rebuke the evidence nor want to anyway. And you don't like me very much. Okay. Got it. Message received!
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 18, 2022, 01:46 PMYeah they are. By your logic we can easily say Retro and Oath are buying upvotes