Started by Lordy_J, Apr 09, 2022, 10:22 PM
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Quote from: Sairek Ceareste on Apr 16, 2022, 06:13 AMWhat about the guild's burner accounts?
Quote from: Sairek Ceareste on Apr 16, 2022, 06:13 AMThe OP of the original thread came out and posted with his normal account after his identity got doxxed by the bad acting burner accounts, which showed it is someone at Travels who is involved one way or another as those screenshots is evidence that a normal player should not have
Quote from: Sairek Ceareste on Apr 16, 2022, 06:13 AMThe OP meanwhile, when asked to provide full conversations for context behind the screen shots when they did came out, actually did. Better yet, he did so on a desktop version of Discord by the way -- with video. The version of Discord used is important, because with the browser version of Discord, anyone can edit the code of the page within the browser
Quote from: Sairek Ceareste on Apr 16, 2022, 06:13 AMThe other side has been extremely reluctant to show anything but cropped screenshots for any proof at all
Quote from: Sairek Ceareste on Apr 16, 2022, 06:13 AMThey manipulated Reddit's voting system
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 16, 2022, 08:20 AMYea there was 3 or 4 of them in that thread. You are strangely very silent about thatNope. We are a tight community and everyone knew who it was, and the mole in their guild was probably sending these screens to multiple people.That doesnt mean they didnt cheat and it doesnt clear them for insulting the staff. I suspected that one was cheating so I wouldnt be surprised if it was confirmed for some of them before they were banned. And thats not true can still do that on the desktop discord so that doesnt mean the banned guild didnt edit anything and given their behavior and agenda...Once again the evidence came from the guild itself afaik. They ratted on themselves. "the other side" didnt crop them and thats not an excuse because theres no context where saying that kind of stuff about the staff is okay.No there was some on both sides and theres no evidence or proof that the staff was involved in any of it. Could've been players, could've been an old enemy of them, could've been a 3rd party server, could've been anyone. That's your conjecture. You make so many flawed points every time you post about this come across biased.
QuoteYou make so many flawed points every time you post about this come across biased.
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 16, 2022, 01:49 AMAnother misleading statement is that anyone got their privacy breached when it was a person in their own guild who reported the cheating talk and the insults themselves afaik. The banned guild itself admitted they had a mole and that mole couldve given them to any number of people.
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 16, 2022, 08:20 AMYou make so many flawed points every time you post about this and come across as pushing a biased agenda against your server competitor.
Quote from: Sairek Ceareste on Apr 15, 2022, 11:55 PMIt was only blatant because of... people's biases?Two bought reddit accounts which we know for a fact were accounts purchased, nearly a thousand votes manipulated in packages of 25 each (with a few being 50), "evidence" posted on these accounts were discrediting a guild with carefully cropped screen shots from their own private discord to remove context and doctoring false screenshots for evidence to support their false narrative. More so, these accounts only knew things that only the staff at the server should know.I don't need to be 'biased' to tell you that everything that has happened is not okay no matter what environment it happens in -- Ragnarok private server or not. Yeah I'm sure other servers exist that do their own shady stuff. To use that to ignore what happened this week though is clear-cut "whataboutism".People's privacy was horrendously breached and someone tried to start a witch hunt on them. They tried so hard to fulfill this that they were willing to conjure up false evidence and spend hundreds of dollars in an attempt to do so and to try and save face when exposed.That is not okay. It's not even about "the server" or Ragnarok itself at that point and I hope everyone can at least come to an agreement with that. But if staff is truly involved, then that makes the server more than a "bad" server -- it makes it dangerous to be on.
Quote from: Nova on Apr 16, 2022, 08:47 PMAt least we are making progress. If by any chance the guy above me (I know who you are on discord as well) is not Lord J, which is possible, then progress has been made for sure. He said LJ did something wrong! That's the first step towards enlightenment.
Quote from: Stonerook182 on Apr 16, 2022, 11:27 AMShouldn't you be busy looking after your server
Quote from: Sairek Ceareste on Apr 16, 2022, 10:34 AMI don't think you realize how asinine, hypocritical
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 17, 2022, 12:04 AM Going to get back to playing with the new players sent from this thread by your bumps
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 17, 2022, 12:04 AMYou get upset when your bias pointed out because it's true. I dont think you realize incredibly flimsy and obvious your agenda is which is to attack your server competition. Going to get back to playing with the new players sent from this thread by your bumps
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 17, 2022, 12:04 AMIf you think everyone is Lord J or that no one can play Travels you have Lord J Derangement Syndrome lol.
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Apr 17, 2022, 12:04 AMAnd a brief look at your post history shows you dont have any because you're a new alt account, just like the one that made this thread, so no one should pay attention to you