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Title: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: XiaoLuLu on Jan 13, 2022, 06:51 PM
Sad i have a lvl95 knight lvl95blacksmith and lvl97 wizard here..

Starting not sure about the GM banning ppl that ask other player to play at other server or play other server? not sure even if the guy only talks about it in guild discord or privately pms.. rumours even say he plays in other server disguised or only purely from ppl reporting to him.. 1 thing for sure most ppl got their password changed after playing at other ro server..

And then with the GM Rii..
This GM implements weird and ridiculous things in discord before.. requiring ppl to write something every few weeks in general to open every other sub in discord.. and prohibits ppl writing words like . a etc.. Alot ppl have a problem with it back in the days.. I dont know how to add pictures in. so..
to add this Rii is playing the game too and is a guildmaster of a guild.. but unsure their strength in game.. but i think they aren't 1 of the strongest if not wrong..


XiaoLuLu — 08/03/2021
hmm r u ok with rii banning me from discord because she wants people to write a genuine msg in general to get active?
i tried writing a and delete it but didnt work and she wants user to write something genuine and not spam general?

Lord J — 08/03/2021
When did this happen?

XiaoLuLu — 08/03/2021
just now

Lord J — 08/03/2021
If you can't think of what to say a simple greeting works. It doesn't matter as long as it's English.

XiaoLuLu — 08/03/2021
i just wrote a
come on u really want to force ppl to write something
and after the msg is deleted
it puts u back to inactive

Lord J — 08/03/2021
One aspect of Ragnarok Travels is fostering a social environment.

XiaoLuLu — 08/03/2021
so if i dont want to foster this is banning me the way to go?
r u trying to foster a fake social environment?
im fostering a social environment with my clanmates

Lord J — 08/03/2021
We want players who benefit from the Discord to contribute to it.

XiaoLuLu — 08/03/2021
and i want to foster a social environment in the trade channel
so you want ppl to type Hi in the general is ok?
what msg you want ppl to type
that is not considered a spam
i considered Hi a spam too.

Before that there is this No God Item thing implemented.. but he decided to remove it =/ joined because of "No God Item"..

Continuing to a guy named tyro getting banned from him.. trying to ask LordJ and tyro why but non can answer.. Apparently tyro when to Oathro and only asked 1 person if he want to join him there.. and bam.. perma banned.. I lend him a +10 pike with 4 mino card and a fireblend.. end up LordJ only gave me 4 mino card back after 2 months.. below are the conversation..

Kyro Part: (Lord J did not give an answer on why he banned him in seperate chat)
XiaoLuLu — 10/16/2021
= ='' wat the guy name

kyro — 10/16/2021
Dude i dont want to give the small details

XiaoLuLu — 10/16/2021
fk tat guy maybe a traitor man u got digged in
wtf u already got banned

kyro — 10/16/2021
nah i think i read loggs

XiaoLuLu — 10/16/2021
tell me who the fk tat guy is and wat server u played

kyro — 10/16/2021
he didnt report me and  ive already talked to him
i know he read logs

XiaoLuLu — 10/16/2021
ic

kyro — 10/16/2021
theres no way he knows except reading people PMs

XiaoLuLu — 10/16/2021
u sure only 1?

kyro — 10/16/2021
yes i PM one dude about it

XiaoLuLu — 10/16/2021
only pm?

kyro — 10/16/2021
yeah


My Part:
XiaoLuLu — 07/27/2021
hmm i want to ask will u take action if someone borrows item but refuse to give it back?

Lord J — 07/29/2021
Do you have more context?

XiaoLuLu — 07/29/2021
nah i just want to lend some items out to help new comers but scare not getting it back
not yet happened
just want assurance ill get it back if i lend it out with ss or something

Lord J — 07/29/2021
Feel free. If you can provide in-game screenshots I will help if needed.

XiaoLuLu — 07/29/2021
ok ty

XiaoLuLu — 10/16/2021
erm - -'' i lend my +10 4x titan pike and fireblend to kyro..
can i even get those back???

XiaoLuLu — 10/16/2021
Image
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Lord J — 10/16/2021
Yup I'll restore your items.

XiaoLuLu — 10/16/2021
alright

XiaoLuLu — 10/21/2021
erm may i know when will the items be restored?

Lord J — 10/22/2021
They'll be restored during the next maintenance.

XiaoLuLu — 10/22/2021
alright ty

XiaoLuLu — 12/07/2021
gm my pike and fireblend :V

XiaoLuLu — 12/07/2021
gm?

Lord J — 12/09/2021
Hello.
Just want to confirm that he gave you nothing in exchange. Is that true?

XiaoLuLu — 12/09/2021
yes for those 2 item
orc warrior card i exchange for his mino card
there is no way im selling or trading that 4x mino +10 pike..
he got nothing to trade with me for that too - -''
i made that pike long ago u can ask some old players..
wait let me pull the chat with him.

Lord J — 12/10/2021
What was the Orc Warrior card for?

XiaoLuLu — 12/10/2021
i traded for his mino card
so tat not count
only the fireblend and the pike
that time he was farming at mino
orc warrior card+tat pike will boost him at that map
i use tat pike to pierce khalizburg then i made +7 broad sword
ill need the pike when i transcend
for now i just use the 2 hand swords
cause i dont have much shields

Lord J — 12/10/2021
I've confirmed this in the logs, so I'll restore your Fireblend and the Pike. However there is no way for me to restore an upgraded weapon.

Well ended up i only got 4x mino card and no pike and fireblend..

Then just today a guy named Tarahen got permabanned for trying to help in support but having conflicting ideas with the GM Rii.. and i also lend him some equips =/.. guess my +7 buckler going to +0 now.. conversation shown in attachment below(which only can be viewed by logging in..)

Permabanning for such trivial matter is just too much a punishment to give..

Maybe its to purge all the oldies that is too powerful for the newbloods.. Just a headsup to anyone wanting to join Ragnarok Travels..

Nothing is edited and are genuine here..


Ill add about the other guy accusing I want the items back.. The matter in fact this is so ridiculous I dont even care about it and just quitted.. You didnt even mention I shrug off having only partial stuff given back from the tyro case after 2 months and even after he said he will restore my items but after 2 months after I request about it he still goes on on something else questioning the integrity.. All up there depends if you want to read or not.. Ill also do a server review like that guy here so its a real "server review" although part of the gaming is in the discord as there is no world chat in game, all info of change, party, market all in the discord and the "server admin" wants his discord to be lively.

Stability
Travels although have almost no downtime there is definitely there are random times where suddenly it became very laggy enough to deter me from doing MVP in fear of dying.. But having playing in Asia most of the time, you just gets accustomed with it and do it anyway although some deads are fustrating. Occurs practically everyday or 2.. But because maybe I'm from Asia and far from the server that is located in the US. The Alternative boost server that is publicize to improve ping for players abroad is even worse than the original one imo as its makes u like accelerate for the first 5 second then suddenly pause for 1.. very weird.

Events
Well the only Events you will get is item drop 25% increase.. Other than the Christmas theme with Antonio in some spots in dungeons after some time that drop a stocking which u need 5 to trade for a gift box at lutie accompany with santa porings in beginner maps.

Gameplay
The server characters and mvp have the final skills of the patch which is good imo but no one have a MVP card yet possibly disabled by the GM unannounced unknown when it will be activated back. Only miniboss card drops like mastering, vocal, dragonfly, angeling drop.. As I possibly killed most of the angeling I didnt get a card from it, while it had dropped 4 to other ppl so far. Zero custom is not the case as there was a time when fly wing cost 500z and teleport cost 100sp once before.. but reverted back sometime later after some veterans rage quitted even after many oppose such idea.
Got to say having nothing going on is the reason I stayed for so long even after some setbacks until the final blowup.

Staff
Staff were good last time when I am new.. but changed as shown in chat above.. Not gonna comment on this one as I cant be sure what their thoughts are.

Community
Community is as usual some good some bad some cunning.. As a dictatorish setup, if the leader is good its good, if its bad its bad.. Although the iron fist had not landed on you, that doesnt mean injustice did not happen elsewhere. Judge by yourself what the evidence portray. Getting "permanbanned" in game with your year long hardwork for disagreeing with the staff is just too ridiculous imo.

Login reward system
Nothing much to comment here, just a gimmick to increase the power of new players for the upcoming woe when there is a small influx of new players by giving away a xp book everyday.






Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: InsomniacTV on Jan 13, 2022, 07:23 PM
This isn't a server review... it's a whine. Travels is great, probably the best.

From your screenshots looks like he started it...
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: XiaoLuLu on Jan 13, 2022, 07:33 PM
Communication with the GMs affects the gameplay and it's definitely a review not a whine. I am the victim of the outcome and Travels definitely not great for me and dont even touch on about being the best. GM was always online and talking to other ppl and replying in discord but refrain from answering my dm's for so long is really frustrating as a player. If you are ok with whats happening with the conversation above.. I guess ragnarok travels will be an ok server for you.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: wLink on Jan 14, 2022, 04:05 AM
This is definitely more of a rant rather than review, OP wrote only about server's Discord and nothing about the server itself. Out of mild curiosity I tried to look up the conversation between Tarahen and Rii and looks like it's all gone (the message from Ice 아이스 is still there) - someone deleted those messages or the conversation was fabricated by the OP but I'd consider the former to be way more likely.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: shirohv2 on Jan 14, 2022, 04:41 AM
Always trouble with Lord J and his squad but people keep trying to defend and protect him when there's literally no reasonable explanation for his doings. It's his server. If you play on it, he is one the deciding when and where and for how lon you are going to play. He is the Autocrat on top, you are nothing so don't complain. People gave up long time ago to fight this guy who keeps writing fake reviews or marks every negative review with "this play got banned today for xxxx". He said that to my review too and i still have all access to my accounts. Just dont interact with this guy and he will let you play lmao
Sorry for your losses XiaoLuLu, but everyone should know by now what kind of server that is
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Resunas on Jan 14, 2022, 11:07 AM
It's really sad.  I enjoyed this server quite a bit, it was the first time I trans'd on a 1x server.  Had a bunch of people helping me and everything. 

I know people say the discord isn't the game, but its the social meeting place for the server.  Its where all our trades are listed and where public parties are formed.  Its very much part of the server.

I had fun here for the last 4 months, but the admin behaviors are really off-base.  I've tried to give as much leeway as possible.  I don't think either of the admin have much experience at all managing a community, and there seems to be a cultural barrier with one that causes issues.  I've kept my mouth shut about for a while now, and I fear the server is about to implode.

The thing is with RO,  no man is an island.  While I didn't play much with Xaio,  I bought some gear from him.  He was a core member of the community.  He farmed a lot of MVPs for us, and he is the sole reason why many players ever have fireblends or moonlight daggers.  And he sold all those items at very reasonable prices.

Then Tarahen. He was another important member of the community.  He handled most of the forging.  Hell, a big reason I even pushed to trans as hard as I did was to help his crafting and others on the server.

A good chunk of people I played with are just.. gone now.  Either banned from an ego trip or just tired of the behavior.  Like banning on discord one of the people who referred probably the most players to the server over a snarky comment.  That player spent time on the general chat helping new players just getting removed for literally nothing. 

The whole situation is just stupid.  There was no one cheating.  No exploits.  No one really causing problems within the community.  But a bruised ego severely damaging the entire community. 
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Raïner on Jan 14, 2022, 11:31 AM
If xiaolulu the cat torturer decided to leave travels, then you know its a problem lmao.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Nova on Jan 14, 2022, 03:50 PM
There are a lot of threads on the forums about the problems with the mentality and the behaviour of that servers Admin. He's not a normal person that you can just get along with over a long period of time. Things are bound to happen and it's kind of your own fault for not double checking the history, before deciding to commit a lot of time time playing there honestly. But yeah it sucks having all your work wasted. Good luck finding another server.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Shuchou on Jan 14, 2022, 04:25 PM
It is honestly amazing that RMS staff is still willing to remove falsely reported reviews left on this server. But I guess there has to be one toxic sys pool kept alive for those that like 1x drama.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Mammothy on Jan 14, 2022, 05:12 PM
So wheres the actual review? This is petty drama and it sucks a banned player had your items but what can you do. He was practically begging for that ban so I dont see the controversy. Rule #1 of game servers is dont diss the mods

I havent had any problems with the admin at all and hes even gone out of his way to help me and my friends
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: lungo on Jan 14, 2022, 07:29 PM
The server is great but they need to get rid of that moderator Rii, is litterally the worst thing in this server and it has been proven multiple times that not only she is incompetent she also is very rude to the players or just deletes their messages for no reason.

I told J that this moderator was going to cause him more problems and he did not listen and here it is once again I am being proven right.

Once again, Travels is a great server and can be enjoyed but if this Rii moderator keeps a position on the staff it will keep causing problems to the players she needs to go.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: XiaoLuLu on Jan 14, 2022, 07:32 PM
Yea.. but looking at how lordJ defended her.. Both are the problem now..
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: lungo on Jan 14, 2022, 07:40 PM
Quote from: XiaoLuLu on Jan 14, 2022, 07:32 PM
Yea.. but looking at how lordJ defended her.. Both are the problem now..

Yeah this is not the first time and I genuinely belive she is his girlfriend or something and I actually have asked him this and I think he denied it but it does show that he is letting her do whatever she wants and that is wrong, this is affecting his server and the people there, I myself have been victim of hers and had to leave discord, then after talking to J he banned me from discord anyways no matter how much I demonstrated that Rii was wrong in her attitude and what she did to me, I told him that she will cause him a lot more troubles and what do you know? I was right.

I genuinely like the server and I think J is a good administrator but right now he is blinded by this woman, he needs to break the spell, if you are reading this dude, break the spell! I don't want this server to go down like Retro, the server is growing you need to step up and do the right thing, remove that person from the staff.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Jungfrau on Jan 14, 2022, 09:54 PM
Ive had 0 issues with Rii. She's a really nice person and goes out of her way to help people. You're clearly upset she punished you. ^
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: lungo on Jan 14, 2022, 11:27 PM
Quote from: Jungfrau on Jan 14, 2022, 09:54 PM
Ive had 0 issues with Rii. She's a really nice person and goes out of her way to help people. You're clearly upset she punished you. ^

No she is not nice as proven by the screenshots already provided by the creator of the post, she is a moderator she has no business attacking people in a passive agressive manner like she is doing on that conversation, she is supposedly there to moderate no to inflame situations like she has done multiple times.

Here is another example, a dude that had just joined the server was talking on general and the dude made a comment that was clearly showing he was insecure about selling some stuff or something and is a pretty innocent comment and look how this... "moderator" responds:

(https://i.ibb.co/Fz63yNd/Screenshot-2021-12-17-02-58-35.png) (https://imgbb.com/)

This person is bad for the server.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Kazuki on Jan 15, 2022, 07:43 AM
He did the same thing to us almost a year ago now. One person was leaving and someone else PM'd him to ask where. The only interaction in-game about where he was going was done through PMs and he was answering questions and not actively poaching anyone. He was banned for that. Obviously the admin has access to PMs, but be aware that he is actively reading them and will ban you for stuff you say in them. If you are leaving he will ban you all.

Our guild then moved to another server that was opening soon and their discord to keep playing with our friend. Lord J showed up in the server and pretty soon after our members in the server were banned from Travels by having the password to our accounts changed.

Any negative reviews are always responded to with the same "this player was banned/had cheated" or the usual "well I haven't had any problems with him at all. what did YOU do?" gaslighting.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Eiponpon on Jan 15, 2022, 11:08 AM
Quote from: Kazuki on Jan 15, 2022, 07:43 AM
The only interaction in-game about where he was going was done through PMs and he was answering questions and not actively poaching anyone. He was banned for that

yeah this is a big lie. I remember when the person youre talking about got caught for poaching. he was so blatant that even one of my chars got a pm from him so he was prob reported by a ton of people

100% guilty
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: lungo on Jan 15, 2022, 01:06 PM
I'm just going to say that I only support Rii removed as a moderator and removed in general from the staff of the game, I don't support active campaigns to make people migrate to other servers or those kind of "conspiracies", I still like the server because basically the Rii problem is just "discord drama" that shouldn't had happened in the first place but at least the server as far as I know is not affected by any of this, I just hope it stays that way and we don't see this person also tainting the actual server. IMO this server is the best classic server out there and this is why I want J to do something about Rii in the staff because clearly this person is affecting his work and I don't want to see the server fall specially now that the server has been growing we almost have 200 people (minus merchants) and that shows that people is indeed comming and posts like this are going to affect the influx of players, we don't need this so I hope J really does something about that moderator.

People getting banned for actively promoting leaving the server and basically "sabotaging" it's deserved, at that point you are being malicious. I don't really think they are banning people for playing in other servers I think is more like they ban people that start trying to remove people from the server, I can not support this people and I won't.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Shuchou on Jan 15, 2022, 02:48 PM
Quote from: lungo on Jan 15, 2022, 01:06 PM
People getting banned for actively promoting leaving the server and basically "sabotaging" it's deserved, at that point you are being malicious. I don't really think they are banning people for playing in other servers I think is more like they ban people that start trying to remove people from the server, I can not support this people and I won't.

Why do you think it took over a year for the server to break 100 players while other servers hit 100 in it's first month and kept growing. When a 3x server opened over the summer a lot of people got banned because Lord J noticed a large player drop when the 3x server opened and about two weeks in he went into the 3x servers discord and started banning those he could link to accounts. Once he was done doing that he started trolling and trash talking in the discord server until he was banned from the server, Lord J is a perfect example of what a toxic human being is. Also just for Lord J to see as I know he is reading this


Staff Edit: Screenshots removed, no point of posting a sexual harassment chat that has nothing to do with topic.

Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Eiponpon on Jan 15, 2022, 05:24 PM
the biggest classic server took 4-5 years to break 100

shuchou got banned for multi and is still so salted about it that he cant sleep at night a year later. now spends his time being toxic on the internet and fabricating stuff. the 3x server he is talking about died in 2 weeks of its own accord which tells you how valuable his judgement on private servers is. big yikes
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Shuchou on Jan 15, 2022, 06:19 PM
Quote from: Eiponpon on Jan 15, 2022, 05:24 PM
the biggest classic server took 4-5 years to break 100

shuchou got banned for multi and is still so salted about it that he cant sleep at night a year later. now spends his time being toxic on the internet and fabricating stuff. the 3x server he is talking about died in 2 weeks of its own accord which tells you how valuable his judgement on private servers is. big yikes

Banned for multi now? That's rich it keeps changing why I was banned xD Use to be botting, then changed to poaching, now multi glad to see how quick the blind knights of travels is to keep making things up to "defend" their toxic heaven. I was banned for leaving a review stating that at the time the server spent close to 60% of the day offline after launch, had lag issues, as well as renewal skills, gear, and mobs on a "classic episode 3" server. Plus the 3x server is still active better luck with your salty smear game next time.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Resunas on Jan 16, 2022, 08:40 AM
I'll add on top something else.

I don't expect things to be perfect in a small server.  People aren't perfect,  admin aren't perfect.  But there's a very serious problem in the relationship between the admin and the players.

There's a failure to understand the relationship between the players and the server admin.  The admin think that they are simply above everyone else, that their rule is law.  They completely ignore the fact that everyone is here because they enjoy the game or community.

A lot of people put their time in to help the community.   People write guides,  they refer people,  they help out new players get started, solve their problems, form parties to get them engaged, etc.  But the admin ignore that.  They treat the players like children.  You can't have any valid disagreements, and if you disagree, you get sent to your room/banned, all comments get deleted.  There's no explanation why,  no room for conversation even.

Its just really sad
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Eiponpon on Jan 16, 2022, 10:28 AM
I like the travels staff a lot. one of my fav parts. its one of the few servers where the staff is not one big biased insider cliche for the powerful players

you must not have been there long because people disagree with the staff all the time and dont get in trouble for it. on past balance changes I saw many directly disagree with the admin, saying this is wrong for this reason, and no one got in trouble for it. just do it respectfully

Quote from: Shuchou on Jan 15, 2022, 06:19 PM
Banned for multi now? That's rich it keeps changing why I was banned xD Use to be botting, then changed to poaching, now multi glad to see how quick the blind knights of travels is to keep making things up to "defend" their toxic heaven. I was banned for leaving a review stating that at the time the server spent close to 60% of the day offline after launch, had lag issues, as well as renewal skills, gear, and mobs on a "classic episode 3" server. Plus the 3x server is still active better luck with your salty smear game next time.
if any of this were true you wouldnt still be so mad. rent free for a year now
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: lungo on Jan 16, 2022, 11:34 PM
Something needs to happen because I have heard of multiple people being banned some only on discord and some in both places (ingame and discord), apparently some just for asking why some people have been banned and for asking for an explanation.

The screenshots of the player Tahren demonstrate that the moderator Rii initiated the hostity and the server adminsitrator J instead of trying to de-escalate the situation made it worse, the player responds to the administrator attack and he gets banned ingame and discord. This behavior is really bad, as a staff member or even as the administrator you should not be provoking problems with the players or escalating situations like this, you can not really expect people to get attacked in any way and just stand there and take it without retaliating at you that is just insanity and where does that leads you? nowhere, right now the community has been hurt bad, just many people that were active and important members of the community being banned either on discord or both ingame and discord unfairly, if this players would have done some outrageous thing like cheating, exploiting, making some form of what you call "poaching" I would agree with the bans but I really can't support this measures.

I think if players should repsect the staff the staff should do the same to the players and recently I have noticed and increase in lack of respect towards the players specially from this moderator called Rii and this is the first time I see J involving himself in basically attacking/insulting a player as shown in the screenshots, I just hope he can see that this was wrong and it is just creating a domino effect on the community, some people even if not banned ingame will feel like moving to other servers etc. I so far tried to help to contact the administrator J to talk to him but haven't received any response, I'm trying to tell people to don't leave and just wait but this blow to the community was bad, I don't believe beyond repair but the staff needs to really come to sense and admit they did wrong this time.

I would suggest to unban all the people that were affected by this situation, I don't believe they deserve this treatment and I think the mature thing to do is to admit that both sides did wrong also Rii needs to leave the staff she really has just been the origin of too many problems in the community.

It feels wrong that this is tainting the server because the actual server is fine but the server is played by people and even if the server is perfect and the game is perfect the community is hurting right now.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Eiponpon on Jan 17, 2022, 03:27 AM
the screenshots show that tarahen initiated the hostility. no one got banned for asking a question thats a lie cause I asked the admin about it myself

this is trivial drama that no one cares about and that no one will remember
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: lungo on Jan 17, 2022, 01:59 PM
Quote from: Eiponpon on Jan 17, 2022, 03:27 AM
the screenshots show that tarahen initiated the hostility. no one got banned for asking a question thats a lie cause I asked the admin about it myself

this is trivial drama that no one cares about and that no one will remember

I think both sides were wrong and Rii has history of starting stuff too.

This thing could have been avoided but I'm done with this situation, neither side wants to hear the other and it justs keeps spiraling out of control and I don't want to be dragged into it, instead of talking and trying to get to and understanding both sides keep pushing, one side keeps doing stuff that puts them at risk of being banned and the other keeps banning...

One thing I can give the people that it is being banned currently is that they are right in feeling that the server feels like a dictatorship, I don't think banning people for trying other servers should be a thing at all, apparently joining certain discords gets you banned too (according to them) or at least that is what they are saying, if they are trying to "poach" people I understand the bans but so far I haven't seen any proof of it, would be good if the administrator J has proof of this to present it so we can at least know this people are not innocent as they claim.

So one side says they are victim but doesn't really provide something to prove they did nothing wrong and the other punishes but doesn't communicate anything either.

This whole situation is dumb and has become hearsay mostly on both sides, that is why I'm not going to take sides, neither side, I'm just going to stop posting about this situation unless some proof from either side is posted.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Savyon on Jan 19, 2022, 06:35 PM
I was part of Ragnarok Travels staff for the first 8 months after launch, plus a couple months prior to launch. Advisory role and beta tester. I was a major contributor to what made the server at least decent, mainly because of the fact that J knew very little about the game, for a server owner.

Things went sour very quickly though. I was banned because I disagreed with him over a patch change. He loves to lie about everything and use multiple accounts to speak anonymously, and you can't win with him. The best thing to do is stop listening to him and stop playing his server, and spread the word.

Anything he replies to these threads and to your reviews are nonsense. I'm telling you, just avoid.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Eiponpon on Jan 19, 2022, 06:45 PM
i remember  when savyon got removed. not a single player liked him and he deserved to go. and then he went to retro which died after he got there. cant imagine why..
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Savyon on Jan 19, 2022, 07:16 PM
Quote from: Eiponpon on Jan 19, 2022, 06:45 PM
i remember  when savyon got removed. not a single player liked him and he deserved to go. and then he went to retro which died after he got there. cant imagine why..

"Anything he replies to these threads and to your reviews are nonsense"

Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Nova on Jan 19, 2022, 07:27 PM
Quote from: Savyon on Jan 19, 2022, 06:35 PM
I was part of Ragnarok Travels staff for the first 8 months after launch, plus a couple months prior to launch. Advisory role and beta tester. I was a major contributor to what made the server at least decent, mainly because of the fact that J knew very little about the game, for a server owner.

Things went sour very quickly though. I was banned because I disagreed with him over a patch change. He loves to lie about everything and use multiple accounts to speak anonymously, and you can't win with him. The best thing to do is stop listening to him and stop playing his server, and spread the word.

Anything he replies to these threads and to your reviews are nonsense. I'm telling you, just avoid.
This is 100% correct. I have been at the start of Travels as well and seen it all happen. Every post that speaks positive about Travels on the forums is almost all lies made by LJ with a new RMS account. This guy is truly something else. It's too bad that he decided to make (steal) a 1x server. Otherwise we wouldn't have to go through this nonsense every single week.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Khinaya on Jan 19, 2022, 09:58 PM
Quote from: Eiponpon on Jan 19, 2022, 06:45 PM
i remember  when savyon got removed. not a single player liked him and he deserved to go. and then he went to retro which died after he got there. cant imagine why..

Now hold on a minute. Before you yell and paint me as a villain again for actions caused by others I am going to make a disclaimer that I'm not partaking in this silly drama serverwise as it is between all of you who actually plays/played on the server but I do have to speak up about defamation of Sav. And since I did play retRO I can give an explanation as of why it died after he arrived//spoilers, he is actually not at fault here//

Stating that nobody likes him is very false. I read somewhere on the forums at least two or three times where people felt bad over the fact that he got screwed over by someone he willingly helped for months, on top of this being a close friend of his//if I remember correctly from Koko days of Amaterasu// somewhere in one of the many tRO threads he was labeled as the only staff member that was tolerable to some degree. I am 100% sure those people are not "alts" or friends of "alts". You definitely know that too despite trying to sweep a poorly made statement under the rug.

He and I have very, veeery different views and mindset on how to play Ragnarok Online but he has always been helpful, not just to me but to other arrivals too whether it's Koko, retRO or Travels. I know and remember as such from when we played together. Not to mention that he can be very insightful when it comes to actual gameplay mechanics. He can have very steadfast opinions as everybody else does - however - it is not right to defame a person in public in an attempt to win whatever this argument point is. He is helpful in his own way. Naturally people will like him. Some will be jealous because of these traits.

Now, to retRO. There's a myriad of reasons why it died. Starting with a point, many 1x episodic servers tend to die sometime between the Aldebaran/Juno patch. This is presumably because this is a memorable episode for many where they remember a time where the game was quite difficult//especially in a non-dual client system// as there was not many overpowered equipment and cards, different mob spawns that did require some form of partying, no rebirth, surely some other reasons.

After a big player spike that is actually thanks TO Sav due to helping with NA side of latency//correct me if I'm wrong!// a lot of people found out you could bypass the grind through slave EXP. Many were upset that it didn't get immediately fixed, so the "magic" of the 1x quickly disappeared as leveling came easy. retRO staff are in the right that this IS an official way to level, and it is within their rights not to fix it, but by not patching this issue quickly the server suffered losing the majority of loyal fans. There's also some heavy WOE drama which I am unfamiliar with which made the matter worse. Accusation of favoritism through misinformation and finally, the lack of players makes other players leave. A vicious cycle of the world of Ragnarok Online it seems. Thus, it died. It would've perished or low peaked with or without him in it. retRO staff took a huge risk and lost. That's the gist of it.

I know you just want the thread to stay alive but you will never have a sense of personal growth if you don't meet people at the middle of your arguments. You'll just keep defending until all these boogeymen stories happen to you and THEN you realize that you got majorly screwed over by the very person you've spent so much energy on. It's going to hurt a lot. But sometimes, it's exactly what you need to grow out of these scenarios. Just friendly advice if you wish to take it.

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23/1/22
Responding here since it's no use trying to revive an old topic over and over again; I'm not sure why you're constantly obsessed with me, Eipon. I don't want to find out, either. Do your daily Libra-is-Evil chant. Living rent free there and all despite having done nothing to you or your friends.  /ok Said what's need to be said. Moving on!
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Nova on Jan 19, 2022, 10:22 PM
Well said. Very accurate description of what happened over the past year or so. I can't fathom how you can treat someone who has for many months, been such a big helping hand to your personal project, so badly without any sense of appreciation and thankfulness. And then to go and even falsely defame that person publicly and lying about him. Even if it is just semi-anonymously over the internet, how can you do that? How do you call someone like that? A sociopath maybe.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Resunas on Jan 21, 2022, 11:11 PM
Quote from: [email protected] on Jan 21, 2022, 10:56 AM
with all this hype around server .. and most people saying any negative review  reply with   "banned player" .. i decide to test it .. and gave a moderate bad review ... and admin did reply i am banned user  when i didnt even go past novice training ground and left bec i understood 1x/1x too less for me xD...  i guess i can trust u guys 100% this guy is a born liar ...  i will be deleting my review any way

I don't understand how this is allowed.  You are supposed to report if a server is offering bonuses for for leaving positive reviews,  but retaliatory action for negative reviews isn't also punished?
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Eiponpon on Jan 22, 2022, 01:12 AM
Quote from: Nova on Jan 19, 2022, 10:22 PM
Well said. Very accurate description of what happened over the past year or so. I can't fathom how you can treat someone who has for many months, been such a big helping hand to your personal project, so badly without any sense of appreciation and thankfulness. And then to go and even falsely defame that person publicly and lying about him. Even if it is just semi-anonymously over the internet, how can you do that? How do you call someone like that? A sociopath maybe.
this is severe irony coming from someone who has wasted a year of his own life falsely lying about a server he got banned from. not that its accomplished anything
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Thibaud on Jan 22, 2022, 07:58 AM
@Eiponpon:

Tell me your Discord/Ingame name on Travels. With all these background infos about every single ban from every player who did leave a negative review, i doubt that you are even a player.
So hello Mr. Lord J or. Mrs. Rii (maybe even the same person, who knows)
Btw, i'd advice you to not dupe your player counts this much, way too easy to check that the player counts ingame and on the website are also faked, like everything on your server.  /heh
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: LumpiaWrapper on Jan 22, 2022, 08:56 AM
Quote from: Eiponpon on Jan 22, 2022, 01:17 AM
its not defamation. savyon was disliked by a lot who wasnt in his guild over pricing shenanigans and no one screwed him over his ban was legitimate. he stood by while his guild tried to start a boycott rebellion over some balance changes one of them even sent me a pm. it failed but he still allowed it

aren't that balance change are that change the teleport SP cost to 100? and flywing cost to 250z and bluegems cost to 1k? so who do blame?i also play on that server and i never been banned i just leave because theres something wrong with the GM althought i dont have issue with Rii. Lord J lies like a lot. cant blame them if they boycott the server because of that fiasco "Balance Changes" that got them banned? huh?
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Shuchou on Jan 22, 2022, 12:55 PM
Quote from: Eiponpon on Jan 22, 2022, 01:17 AM
its not defamation. savyon was disliked by a lot who wasnt in his guild over pricing shenanigans and no one screwed him over his ban was legitimate. he stood by while his guild tried to start a boycott rebellion over some balance changes one of them even sent me a pm. it failed but he still allowed it

You guys heard it from lord j himself, people were banned for disagreeing with changes that were made. Hell after loosing 70% of his player base he undid the changes but left everyone banned that talked against him on it. LOGIC
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Eiponpon on Jan 22, 2022, 03:32 PM
Quote from: Thibaud on Jan 22, 2022, 07:58 AM
@Eiponpon:

Tell me your Discord/Ingame name on Travels. With all these background infos about every single ban from every player who did leave a negative review, i doubt that you are even a player.
So hello Mr. Lord J or. Mrs. Rii (maybe even the same person, who knows)
thats not background info. give it up savyon
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: LumpiaWrapper on Jan 22, 2022, 04:25 PM
Quote from: Eiponpon on Jan 22, 2022, 03:58 PM
no one got banned for talking against changes i did that publicly and still have my acc
thats the most s*** s*** i ever read.  /heh PLEASE check also the Neutral Review and tell me if the GM J doesnt banned people for some protest to those "BALANCING CHANGES" /heh
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: skyeang3l on Jan 22, 2022, 05:02 PM
Quote from: Resunas on Jan 21, 2022, 11:11 PM
I don't understand how this is allowed.  You are supposed to report if a server is offering bonuses for for leaving positive reviews,  but retaliatory action for negative reviews isn't also punished?

Apparently not. Many people get banned from that server just for reviewing. If J can link your RMS name to your in-game name, he will ban you. Also Eiponpon doesn't realize how obvious it is that he is J with all this insider info.

Nobody even knows why they are banned because:
1. There is no public ban log
2. The staff do not tell you why you are banned
3. J deletes everything "There is no war in ba sing se" style

So it's so obvious that the only person who would know the background behind all these incidents would be someone on the admin team themselves. It's quite unhinged to actively lie in the face of all this instead of owning up to your mistakes.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: LumpiaWrapper on Jan 22, 2022, 06:33 PM
Quote from: skyeang3l on Jan 22, 2022, 05:02 PM
Apparently not. Many people get banned from that server just for reviewing. If J can link your RMS name to your in-game name, he will ban you. Also Eiponpon doesn't realize how obvious it is that he is J with all this insider info.

Nobody even knows why they are banned because:
1. There is no public ban log
2. The staff do not tell you why you are banned
3. J deletes everything "There is no war in ba sing se" style

So it's so obvious that the only person who would know the background behind all these incidents would be someone on the admin team themselves. It's quite unhinged to actively lie in the face of all this instead of owning up to your mistakes.

i can give them proof if this guy still denied it.   /swt
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: LumpiaWrapper on Jan 22, 2022, 07:09 PM
and regarding about savyon if you dig harder you can see he is the one actively talking to new players and helping them.
so what do you mean he is the most hated when he is the one who talk to them actively? im playing solo on ROtravels and i have never have an issue regarding savyon Personality, about that price fixing, you talking about elus and oridecon right? that 100k at that time? guess what everyone on the server vend them at that rate?? so stop lying and just face the truth that GM J is kinda big Liar.

Staff Edit: Removed useless attachment.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Eiponpon on Jan 22, 2022, 08:12 PM
Quote from: skyeang3l on Jan 22, 2022, 05:02 PM
Also Eiponpon doesn't realize how obvious it is that he is J with all this insider info.
the admin made a post with the reasons why he banned him and its still up. theres no insider info and everything you said is totally wrong. par the course for upset banned players love to make stuff up...
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Neffletics on Jan 23, 2022, 04:34 PM
When will people learn to quit without causing a commotion? It's already 2022, and these things will continue to occur, with the same problems that we've seen in previous years.

Joining a private server implies that you understand the risk that these s*** may occur, and we should simply move on if the server no longer makes us happy.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: faker on Jan 24, 2022, 08:13 AM
Quote from: Neffletics on Jan 23, 2022, 04:34 PM
When will people learn to quit without causing a commotion? It's already 2022, and these things will continue to occur, with the same problems that we've seen in previous years.

Joining a private server implies that you understand the risk that these s*** may occur, and we should simply move on if the server no longer makes us happy.

You are on a website called RATEmyserver.net. Not onlyPRAISEmyserver.net or onlysayGOODthingsaboutmyserver.net. The entire point of reviews is so others can make informed decisions on a product.

Reading posts on RATEmyserver.net implies that you understand the risk that good OR bad things will be said about servers and you should simply move on if reading negative reviews about other servers makes you unhappy.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Thibaud on Jan 24, 2022, 09:49 AM
Quote from: Neffletics on Jan 23, 2022, 04:34 PM
When will people learn to quit without causing a commotion? It's already 2022, and these things will continue to occur, with the same problems that we've seen in previous years.

Joining a private server implies that you understand the risk that these s*** may occur, and we should simply move on if the server no longer makes us happy.

Well, like faker already said, it is about to make a huge WARN-SIGN to servers which are under the lead of a tyrann who doesn't care about his players.
Also it is something different to quit because you are unhappy with a server or gettin' banned for nothing.
That happened to at least 20-30 people already on this example.

If i'm speaking for myself, i only want to advice players who play there or want to play there, that they shouldn't.
At least if they dont want to lose all their progress, with huge time-investment.
And this is what the website is for. Reviewing a server, rather its negative or positive.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Savyon on Jan 24, 2022, 10:45 AM
Lord J simply made up reasons for my ban, because it would make him look really bad if the public knew the actual reason. I disagreed with the patch, and so did my whole guild. We were going to stop playing until it was reverted.

He knew that if a very active staff member(myself) and the biggest guild on the server quit, it would snowball into many others quitting. He made this plan to ban us so he could decide the reason for our disappearance. He banned me and picked a reason that sounds believable due to me buying a lot of elus in the past.

It's not much different than the real life documentaries with a dude covering up their murders with 'suicide'.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: wLink on Jan 24, 2022, 11:40 AM
Why would price fixing be something illegal anyway? It keeps the prices from getting too low if overfarmed and the buyer(s) can actually end up being in a loss instead of a profit. Moreover this is something that is not mentioned in Travels' terms of service so those players couldn't even know they were breaking a rule.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: BaphometRag on Jan 24, 2022, 03:57 PM
Quote from: Neffletics on Jan 23, 2022, 04:34 PM
When will people learn to quit without causing a commotion? It's already 2022, and these things will continue to occur, with the same problems that we've seen in previous years.

Joining a private server implies that you understand the risk that these s*** may occur, and we should simply move on if the server no longer makes us happy.
Agree. This simply make server look good and people who do this look bad
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Eiponpon on Jan 24, 2022, 04:38 PM
Quote from: Savyon on Jan 24, 2022, 10:45 AM
Lord J simply made up reasons for my ban, because it would make him look really bad if the public knew the actual reason. I disagreed with the patch, and so did my whole guild. We were going to stop playing until it was reverted.
even I know youre lying because when it happened I got messaged on discord by from someone in your guild who goes by egreff saying "hey join our boycott" and I was never in your guild which means yall were poaching randoms. you guild wouldve got banned from any server for pulling that

Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Savyon on Jan 24, 2022, 05:26 PM
Quote from: Eiponpon on Jan 24, 2022, 04:38 PM
even I know youre lying because when it happened I got messaged on discord by from someone in your guild who goes by egreff saying "hey join our boycott" and I was never in your guild which means yall were poaching randoms. you guild wouldve got banned from any server for pulling that
Who are you in discord / in-game?

Like I said, we decided to quit as a group until the changes were reverted. What's petty is that players who got banned for deciding to quit stayed banned even after Lord J reverted his patch. Too much pride to accept that he was wrong in banning us, but he knew the server stood no chance at all if he didn't revert the patch.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Bran86 on Jan 27, 2022, 08:45 AM
Played there for nearly half a year. Great accuracy, nice community, sadly bad performance and the worst admin I ever encountered.

Normally I don't discuss in here and only read. But the lies that are being told here are to severe.

How can anybody who plays there and follows discord defend Lord Js actions? He can not cope with any kind of criticism, gets insulting and bans people for responding in kind. He creates a mood of constant fear of saying something wrong and he or his cult like followers beat down anything that isnt 100% company policy.

That he obviously Bans people for joining other Discords or trying out a new server speaks for itself.

The second major problem are the obviously fake reviews that damage the servers reputation and the manipulated user numbers. There should about 100 real players online constantly but the server feels more dead than servers with 1/3 of this number.

Overall I can only warn anybody not to repeat my mistake. Best stay clear.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: skyeang3l on Jan 27, 2022, 09:59 AM
Quote from: Bran86 on Jan 27, 2022, 08:45 AM
Played there for nearly half a year. Great accuracy, nice community, sadly bad performance and the worst admin I ever encountered.

Normally I don't discuss in here and only read. But the lies that are being told here are to severe.

How can anybody who plays there and follows discord defend Lord Js actions? He can not cope with any kind of criticism, gets insulting and bans people for responding in kind. He creates a mood of constant fear of saying something wrong and he or his cult like followers beat down anything that isnt 100% company policy.

That he obviously Bans people for joining other Discords or trying out a new server speaks for itself.

The second major problem are the obviously fake reviews that damage the servers reputation and the manipulated user numbers. There should about 100 real players online constantly but the server feels more dead than servers with 1/3 of this number.

Overall I can only warn anybody not to repeat my mistake. Best stay clear.
You're not wrong in thinking that the player count is fabricated. I logged in to count over 100 autotraders but the website consistently says around 60.

Anyway, I'm sorry that you had to experience J's tyranny for yourself after playing for such a long period of time. There are better servers out there with friendlier GMs.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: InsomniacTV on Jan 27, 2022, 02:29 PM
Quote from: Bran86 on Jan 27, 2022, 08:45 AM
Played there for nearly half a year. Great accuracy, nice community, sadly bad performance and the worst admin I ever encountered.
Playing there again now because of this thread and this isn't true

I think the admin is doing good. The more I talked to players there and him the more I realized that most of the stuff in this thread is just completely made up stuff from guilds who got banned and hate to see Travels doing better than the servers they had to settle for. And I agree with you about great accuracy and community. Performance is top tier no complaints there
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Eiponpon on Jan 27, 2022, 03:53 PM
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Jan 27, 2022, 02:29 PMfrom guilds who got banned and hate to see Travels doing better than the servers they had to settle for.
bingo bingo. you solved the case

Quote from: skyeang3l on Jan 27, 2022, 09:59 AM
I logged in
lmao. you and your guild got banned like a year ago and youre still ban evading in 2022. not only is desperate but shows lack of respect for the rules. not exactly confidence inspiring
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Shuchou on Jan 27, 2022, 04:28 PM
Quote from: Eiponpon on Jan 27, 2022, 03:53 PM
bingo bingo. you solved the case
lmao. you and your guild got banned like a year ago and youre still ban evading in 2022. not only is desperate but shows lack of respect for the rules. not exactly confidence inspiring

Ok Lord J, if you say so. Funny how after someone calls out the fake player count the site magically no longer displays it just an M now
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: icywings on Jan 27, 2022, 06:26 PM
I was thinking on watching the drama from the inside (by making an account) but the moment I saw one stupid article about "the problem of rates above 1x", it felt so entitled and bad that I stepped away.

Thanks for saving my time guys, I'll keep on a higher rate, but not as much (20x) server that has WAY MORE PLAYERS than travels ^^
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Deskdrawer on Jan 27, 2022, 07:11 PM
As an outsider looking in, this is kinda unfortunate, selfishly unfortunate for me, and unfortunate all around.

For context, I haven't played RO in any earnest way in like, 15 years and was just looking for a low rate, pre-re server that was in North America and wasn't plagued by item (donation) shops. Saw this neat looking server called "Ragnarok Travels" on the server listing, low rates, promised no pay to win, NA, sweet, exactly what I'm looking for. Go to the website, kinda weird, not going to lie. At first it wasn't all that big of a deal because, hey man sell what you are, I have no gripes fluffing own accomplishments a little if you think it brings in new players. However, it kinda went on, and on, and on, breaking down differences between servers, why other servers aren't as good as this one is, bringing back the magic, that sort of thing. This is my personal opinion, so take it with a grain of salt, but when a server needs to put itself on a pedestal against other servers, rather than stand on its own merits, it's a red flag.

Next came looking up some reviews, googling the name, figuring out if it would be worth investing time into, and oh boy, that was pure magic. I've spent the last couple hours looking over a mess that spans a couple years, a mess of accusations, name calling, screenshots of conversations, claims of revolution, it was all pretty intense. People have called the server owner a fraudulent liar, the server owner has called people cry babies and cheaters, and at the end of the day, I really just don't like any of you. I don't mean that personally, but whatever is going on here is just cancerous. Again, just my opinion, a server owner shouldn't engage with heated cheaters, I get the need to defend what's yours, but making statements talking about how people are cry babies, how you're proud of the "graveyard" of bans you sit atop, how people just don't understand how things work, is chumpery. On the reverse, if you have a grievance with the server, there's gotta be a better way to do it than resorting to a flame battle, since that looks suspect on your part. A calm, collected negative review that sticks to its guns is far more effective at making people take you serious, than ACTUALLY looking like the angry cheater that the owner claims you to be.

I'm not new to RO drama but, selfishly, it sucks from my standpoint because as far as what the server OFFERS is concerned, I would have eaten it up, it was exactly what I was looking for, I'd be downloading it right now, but at this point I really don't trust any opinion that comes from these threads or even the RMS reviews, too many same day created accounts giving 95 - 100 scores (I know, ironic since I also just created this account to post this.)

My best advice is, please change, or fix it, or drop the drama, I'd like to play here, but I don't want to get to 99 on a 1x server and get banned for having a minor disagreement with someone, or criticizing a feature. In the mean time, I'm in the market for a low rate, pre-re, NA server that doesn't have pay to win donations, any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Eiponpon on Jan 27, 2022, 07:24 PM
Quote from: Shuchou on Jan 27, 2022, 04:28 PM
Ok Lord J, if you say so. Funny how after someone calls out the fake player count the site magically no longer displays it just an M now
that always happens after maintenances. like calling everyone you disagree with lord j, inventing alternative realities isnt going to help you

Quote from: icywings on Jan 27, 2022, 06:26 PM
I was thinking on watching the drama from the inside (by making an account) but the moment I saw
like 7 new players joined today. I still dont know why people think these threads do anything but accomplish the opposite of their intentions overall lmao
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: LumpiaWrapper on Jan 27, 2022, 07:51 PM
try another low rate server, if u want no mutli client why not try retRO(Eu based) or OathRO(US based), or if ur okay with multiclient Origins,heRO or talon RO, but if u dont mind getting banned for something or going to protest against a certain patch try RagnarokTravels just stay away from Lord J or Rii(dunno) and ur be fine i guess?. /ok
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: skyeang3l on Jan 27, 2022, 08:01 PM
Quote from: Deskdrawer on Jan 27, 2022, 07:11 PM
As an outsider looking in, this is kinda unfortunate, selfishly unfortunate for me, and unfortunate all around.

For context, I haven't played RO in any earnest way in like, 15 years and was just looking for a low rate, pre-re server that was in North America and wasn't plagued by item (donation) shops. Saw this neat looking server called "Ragnarok Travels" on the server listing, low rates, promised no pay to win, NA, sweet, exactly what I'm looking for. Go to the website, kinda weird, not going to lie. At first it wasn't all that big of a deal because, hey man sell what you are, I have no gripes fluffing own accomplishments a little if you think it brings in new players. However, it kinda went on, and on, and on, breaking down differences between servers, why other servers aren't as good as this one is, bringing back the magic, that sort of thing. This is my personal opinion, so take it with a grain of salt, but when a server needs to put itself on a pedestal against other servers, rather than stand on its own merits, it's a red flag.

Next came looking up some reviews, googling the name, figuring out if it would be worth investing time into, and oh boy, that was pure magic. I've spent the last couple hours looking over a mess that spans a couple years, a mess of accusations, name calling, screenshots of conversations, claims of revolution, it was all pretty intense. People have called the server owner a fraudulent liar, the server owner has called people cry babies and cheaters, and at the end of the day, I really just don't like any of you. I don't mean that personally, but whatever is going on here is just cancerous. Again, just my opinion, a server owner shouldn't engage with heated cheaters, I get the need to defend what's yours, but making statements talking about how people are cry babies, how you're proud of the "graveyard" of bans you sit atop, how people just don't understand how things work, is chumpery. On the reverse, if you have a grievance with the server, there's gotta be a better way to do it than resorting to a flame battle, since that looks suspect on your part. A calm, collected negative review that sticks to its guns is far more effective at making people take you serious, than ACTUALLY looking like the angry cheater that the owner claims you to be.

I'm not new to RO drama but, selfishly, it sucks from my standpoint because as far as what the server OFFERS is concerned, I would have eaten it up, it was exactly what I was looking for, I'd be downloading it right now, but at this point I really don't trust any opinion that comes from these threads or even the RMS reviews, too many same day created accounts giving 95 - 100 scores (I know, ironic since I also just created this account to post this.)

My best advice is, please change, or fix it, or drop the drama, I'd like to play here, but I don't want to get to 99 on a 1x server and get banned for having a minor disagreement with someone, or criticizing a feature. In the mean time, I'm in the market for a low rate, pre-re, NA server that doesn't have pay to win donations, any help would be appreciated.

Frankly that's exactly why people keep posting here. A lot of players on this server have invested so much time into a hardcore 1x experience to either get banned or see their friends banned for simple disagreements with the admin. It's a warning to not waste your time here. Travels is very enticing on the surface but is ultimately nothing but smoke and mirrors. Take it from me and try literally any other 1x if you're interested. There are several on the market(just search by rates and you will find several without suspicious fake reviews).

The owner of the server is engaging in obfuscation where he attempts to make the situation seem muddy to confuse onlookers, but remember, if something smells like crap, it usually is crap. Happy server hunting.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: icywings on Jan 27, 2022, 08:03 PM
Quote from: Eiponpon on Jan 27, 2022, 07:24 PM
like 7 new players joined today. I still dont know why people think these threads do anything but accomplish the opposite of their intentions overall lmao

Here's the thing, it could have been 8.

Servers need to try to make as many people satisfied and curious to join, not actively trying to repel people. Don't you see what happens to those Open World PVP MMORPGs? (Like Mortal Online or what would New World be)

When one decides NOT to join a server due to its community or their owner/administration, you have a problem.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Hazalghar on Jan 27, 2022, 08:12 PM
Quote from: Deskdrawer on Jan 27, 2022, 07:11 PM
As an outsider looking in
Just dropping in to say I'm opposite. Checked out the server because of the thread and decided to stay because it's a good server.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Eiponpon on Jan 27, 2022, 08:35 PM

Quote from: icywings on Jan 27, 2022, 08:03 PM
Here's the thing, it could have been 8.
couldve been 8 but wouldve been 0 if not for this thread

Quote from: skyeang3l on Jan 27, 2022, 08:01 PM
A lot of players on this server have invested so much time into a hardcore 1x experience to either get banned or see their friends banned for simple disagreements with the admin. It's a warning to not waste your time here. Travels is very enticing on the surface but is ultimately nothing but smoke and mirrors. Take it from me and try literally any other 1x if you're interested. There are several on the market(just search by rates and you will find several without suspicious fake reviews).

The owner of the server is engaging in obfuscation where he attempts to make the situation seem muddy to confuse onlookers, but remember, if something smells like crap, it usually is crap. Happy server hunting.
the owner hasnt even posted here. the only one attempting to muddy the waters is you. no one has gotten banned for a disagreement thats a madeup lie. this person and her guild got banned from the server for low behavior that wouldve gotten them banned anywhere. you can disregard this
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: icywings on Jan 27, 2022, 08:48 PM
Quote from: Eiponpon on Jan 27, 2022, 08:35 PM
the owner hasnt even posted here. the only one attempting to muddy the waters is you. no one has gotten banned for a disagreement thats a madeup lie. this person and her guild got banned from the server for low behavior that wouldve gotten them banned anywhere. you can disregard this
Wish to see both side's proof.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Nova on Jan 27, 2022, 10:11 PM
Quote from: Deskdrawer on Jan 27, 2022, 07:11 PM
As an outsider looking in, this is kinda unfortunate, selfishly unfortunate for me, and unfortunate all around.

For context, I haven't played RO in any earnest way in like, 15 years and was just looking for a low rate, pre-re server that was in North America and wasn't plagued by item (donation) shops. Saw this neat looking server called "Ragnarok Travels" on the server listing, low rates, promised no pay to win, NA, sweet, exactly what I'm looking for. Go to the website, kinda weird, not going to lie. At first it wasn't all that big of a deal because, hey man sell what you are, I have no gripes fluffing own accomplishments a little if you think it brings in new players. However, it kinda went on, and on, and on, breaking down differences between servers, why other servers aren't as good as this one is, bringing back the magic, that sort of thing. This is my personal opinion, so take it with a grain of salt, but when a server needs to put itself on a pedestal against other servers, rather than stand on its own merits, it's a red flag.

Next came looking up some reviews, googling the name, figuring out if it would be worth investing time into, and oh boy, that was pure magic. I've spent the last couple hours looking over a mess that spans a couple years, a mess of accusations, name calling, screenshots of conversations, claims of revolution, it was all pretty intense. People have called the server owner a fraudulent liar, the server owner has called people cry babies and cheaters, and at the end of the day, I really just don't like any of you. I don't mean that personally, but whatever is going on here is just cancerous. Again, just my opinion, a server owner shouldn't engage with heated cheaters, I get the need to defend what's yours, but making statements talking about how people are cry babies, how you're proud of the "graveyard" of bans you sit atop, how people just don't understand how things work, is chumpery. On the reverse, if you have a grievance with the server, there's gotta be a better way to do it than resorting to a flame battle, since that looks suspect on your part. A calm, collected negative review that sticks to its guns is far more effective at making people take you serious, than ACTUALLY looking like the angry cheater that the owner claims you to be.

I'm not new to RO drama but, selfishly, it sucks from my standpoint because as far as what the server OFFERS is concerned, I would have eaten it up, it was exactly what I was looking for, I'd be downloading it right now, but at this point I really don't trust any opinion that comes from these threads or even the RMS reviews, too many same day created accounts giving 95 - 100 scores (I know, ironic since I also just created this account to post this.)

My best advice is, please change, or fix it, or drop the drama, I'd like to play here, but I don't want to get to 99 on a 1x server and get banned for having a minor disagreement with someone, or criticizing a feature. In the mean time, I'm in the market for a low rate, pre-re, NA server that doesn't have pay to win donations, any help would be appreciated.

You've probably read my review from a bit more than a year ago. I've periodically kept up to date with the "drama" all this time. Here's the thing about this whole situation. I can't remember a single server that has been surrounded by so much negativity in all the years that I've seen servers come and go. And this is for a very simple reason. When you as an authoritative figure (in this case a RO server owner) mistreat your players like this, ban them for disagreements on a public space, censor them and even lie about the reason why they were banned, you get people incredibly angry.

Consider this example scenario; You are having fun playing RO, investing many tens of hours into the server or perhaps even hundreds when one day, the server owner decides to increase the price of certain important usable tool dealer items by 500% and increase the cost of the Teleportation skill by 1000%. Obviously you and many others do not agree with this change and you go on Discord to complain about this, telling the admin that it should be reverted. The admin then removes your comment, tells you how wrong you are for even suggesting such a thing and mutes you. This makes you upset. Then later on when your mute has ended, you go back on discord and complain about your mute. And then BAM! you are now banned from the server. This makes you very angry. Later on, you are still fuming due to the injustice that has been done to you and you leave a negative review on RMS which also gets deleted by the server owner (Yes, he can do that). Now this person has created a feud with you and you have no way to respond other than to write some negative words on the RMS forums to spread the word. The owner then comes into your thread and falsely accuses you of being a "cheater" which is why you were banned. He has now created an enemy.

The above actually happened to (many) people so it should not be a surprise that they are actively spreading the word about how that server is being run. Look at it this way; Yes it sucks that we are even having this conversation and yes it sucks that this is going on in the 1x server community no less, but if it wasn't for all these people speaking about their experiences, you would have probably been playing there right now. And the chances are reasonably high that you would have gotten into a similar situation in the future.

Added a few screenshots of that happening incase someone comes in to refute this. There is a lot more, but I will spare you the nonsense:
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/mYbNUpP.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/YH6qhKh.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/jIE9UmG.png)
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As for a good 1x lowrate to play on, I recommend the n3 ranked lowrate. There are good people there.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Savyon on Jan 27, 2022, 10:12 PM
Eiponpon can't answer a simple question such as who they are on discord and in-game. I guess he needs more time to think of a lie.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Deskdrawer on Jan 27, 2022, 10:45 PM
Quote from: Nova on Jan 27, 2022, 10:11 PMAs for a good 1x lowrate to play on, I recommend the n3 ranked lowrate. There are good people there.

I'm actually downloading it right now, I see they're classic atm, I'm gleaning they are planning on progressing slowly, but I honestly have been out of the game so long I forget, does this mean at some point it'll be like other pre-re servers with trans classes and 70 job level?
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Nova on Jan 27, 2022, 10:55 PM
Quote from: Deskdrawer on Jan 27, 2022, 10:45 PM
I'm actually downloading it right now, I see they're classic atm, I'm gleaning they are planning on progressing slowly, but I honestly have been out of the game so long I forget, does this mean at some point it'll be like other pre-re servers with trans classes and 70 job level?
Not quite, because the staff there have some very cool plans laid out for the future. There is a lot of custom stuff, but it's stuff that fits into the classic progression that they're still in. I think if you read around for a bit and see what is in store, you'll be pleasantly surprised. I actually wrote a review a few months ago about it so you might want to have a look at that to start off.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Eiponpon on Jan 27, 2022, 11:02 PM
Quote from: Nova on Jan 27, 2022, 10:11 PM, but if it wasn't for all these people speaking about their experiences, you would have probably been playing there right now.
if it wasnt for threads like this 7 players (now 8 ) wouldnt have joined the server today. travels doesnt have much drama the community is one of its strong points but it does have it occasionally because the admin is one of the few who actually bans cheaters and corruption and has low tolerance for troublemakers. this is why its in my view the best low rate ive played and why many share that view.

ive played a lot of servers and until travels I hadnt encountered a single one that wasnt corrupt or controlled by the largest guild on the server. these guilds are used to controlling servers and if you dont let them they get very mad. after nova got banned from travels for multi-clienting he put his hopes and dreams into another 1x server that died for the reasons I just mentioned, the admin was too scared to put his foot down. a very tragic tale and ironic way to learn that you were wrong about something
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: icywings on Jan 27, 2022, 11:17 PM
Nova sent proof from his side, where's yours Eiponpon?
Also, your grammar hurts my eyes...
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Savyon on Jan 27, 2022, 11:20 PM
Quote from: Eiponpon on Jan 27, 2022, 11:02 PM
if it wasnt for threads like this 7 players (now 8 ) wouldnt have joined the server today. travels doesnt have much drama the community is one of its strong points but it does have it occasionally because the admin is one of the few who actually bans cheaters and corruption and has low tolerance for troublemakers. this is why its in my view the best low rate ive played and why many share that view.

ive played a lot of servers and until travels I hadnt encountered a single one that wasnt corrupt or controlled by the largest guild on the server. these guilds are used to controlling servers and if you dont let them they get very mad. after nova got banned from travels for multi-clienting he put his hopes and dreams into another 1x server that died for the reasons I just mentioned, the admin was too scared to put his foot down. a very tragic tale and ironic way to learn that you were wrong about something

Yet another post that avoids my simple question.

Also, banning the largest guilds to avoid any guilds becoming too powerful isn't something to brag about.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Deskdrawer on Jan 27, 2022, 11:24 PM
Quote from: Nova on Jan 27, 2022, 10:55 PM
Not quite, because the staff there have some very cool plans laid out for the future. There is a lot of custom stuff, but it's stuff that fits into the classic progression that they're still in. I think if you read around for a bit and see what is in store, you'll be pleasantly surprised. I actually wrote a review a few months ago about it so you might want to have a look at that to start off.

Oh, I won't lie, I really like the trans classes and 70 level, really mostly because it's what I'm most used to while playing LLRO.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Nova on Jan 27, 2022, 11:35 PM
Quote from: Deskdrawer on Jan 27, 2022, 11:24 PM
Oh, I won't lie, I really like the trans classes and 70 level, really mostly because it's what I'm most used to while playing LLRO.
I feel the same way actually. I love playing mastersmith the most. But I would suggest to hop into the server discord for a bit then go to the announcement section, scroll down to the end and check out the post posted a few days ago on January 23. It's about what they have envisioned for the future. That's basically what I mean when I say it'll be a bit different probably.
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: BaphometRag on Jan 28, 2022, 12:41 AM
Quote from: InsomniacTV on Jan 27, 2022, 02:29 PM
Playing there again now because of this thread and this isn't true

I think the admin is doing good. The more I talked to players there and him the more I realized that most of the stuff in this thread is just completely made up stuff from guilds who got banned and hate to see Travels doing better than the servers they had to settle for. And I agree with you about great accuracy and community. Performance is top tier no complaints there
My friends who see this thread feel same way as you
Title: Re: Ragnarok Travels.. (Quitting)
Post by: Shuchou on Jan 28, 2022, 01:19 AM
Quote from: Eiponpon on Jan 27, 2022, 07:24 PM
that always happens after maintenances. like calling everyone you disagree with lord j, inventing alternative realities isnt going to help you

If it always happens you would think that would always be fixed after EVERY maintenance then, not still "broken" for over 12hours.