OriginalRO - Review

[lilsword]

So, you're going to tell me that from a lot of maxed players who farm gears and stuffs, especially those who are zenydiggers, there are only 4 players banned? C'mon, someone else should have been discovered it. I find it really stupid that only 4 people were banned because of exploiting because if I recall correctly, HammerTime and Rekt both got banned for being "rude" to the Admin. Which leaves us with 2 bug abusers, and there are 4 bans on Elias' screenshots.

@lilsword Maybe my comments were too harsh so I'm asking for an apologize to you, I don't mean to cause hatred but to let people realize. Alcohol already did.

No problem, I think the 4 bans that you were mentioning wasn't an account ban but an IP Ban, "Elias" didnt show the screenshot of banned accounts.

[limitless71]

@alcohol

It was a mistake on my part for not including @Innomite to my previous post as he was saying how the recent reviews (after the negative ones) were encouraged by the GM. However, this is not the case and it was player-driven and had nothing to do with the GM.

As to the reviews for rewards on RMS, I do recall that was the case but I was unsure of the rewards and the follow-up to that. I had no idea about the suggestion about donation/voting items as it did not appear on the forum which I frequently visit.

@Innomite

I can attest to the GM asking for reviews on RMS but not for donations. All the GM did was have a double donation promotion and did not "beg" for this as you put it.

I did not know about the gold exploit and exactly who and how many people were involved but if it is abused then you should be banned. In my honest opinion, those people who discovered it, didn't report it and abused it should be banned.

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I have no idea why some of you need to get emotional over this and go personally attacking people.

[Triper]

Damn, what a mess this turned out. Let me see what I can dig in here:

So, what Alcohol100 is saying is that OriginalRO is a clone of CycloneRO and was using the same website template before the current one and that the admin of Original is playing at Cyclone and copying it step by step?

That's an serious accusation. Is there any more evidence about this? Being similar is the usual thing present in the 23817239172397129321 pservers out there but being a copy is totally different.

[Rekt]

So you're name here on RMS forum happened to be EliasB and then this kid (https://www.facebook.com/elias.bakkali?fref=ts) happened to be Elias Bakkali, which by the way Lexii picked up this profile link from the OriginalRO page on Facebook.

I see, you're fooling no one here. You're acting in accordance to your age EliasB.

[EliasB]

Get over it and stop logging into my server, LOL nerd.

I don't mind the facebook joke.

Grow the f* up NERD.

P.S: STOP PLAYING ON MY SERVER, DON'T LOG IN AGAIN, LOL

[Hummingbird]

So you're name here on RMS forum happened to be EliasB and then this kid (https://www.facebook.com/elias.bakkali?fref=ts) happened to be Elias Bakkali, which by the way Lexii picked up this profile link from the OriginalRO page on Facebook.

I see, you're fooling no one here. You're acting in accordance to your age EliasB.

Also,Did you really just summon an originalro prontera priness to defend you, with the "YOU HAVE TO DONATE SO GM CAREBEARS EVERYONE mentality". Plus what the f*** is she even talking about? Nothing relevant whatsoever. And no, everyone knows me missy and I always have the right to be angry.

Scrub.

Nothing relevant? look whos talkin 

Nobody knows you in oRO that's what i mean... and look at your post, does the admin of oRO posted a facebook profile to defend himself? You only want to humiliate him >.<

I'm only defending him because some of your post is below the belt. IF you have problems on the server, then thats the thing you should be posting here, not some facebook profile. :/ that poor kid. Stop flame baiting 

You really have an attitude problem, no wonder why admin ban your account. Maybe you're right, you have the rights to be angry. So don't complain if someone punches you on the face or ban your account in other RO servers because of your attitude. >.<

and i believe that banning you on the server is the right thing to do. If i was an admin, i'd do the same thing. 

@On Topic

I'm still waiting for the admins answer.

[Ucieczka]

I like how the ban reasons are "don't come here anymore"

So no mature staff in this server? I'll look elsewhere then

[Hummingbird]

I like how the ban reasons are "don't come here anymore"

So no mature staff in this server? I'll look elsewhere then

Hahaha, well the admin is. It just those guys are making another server that is why they are ruining the oRO and bashing the admin .

Anyway, feels nice to know the truth. Gahhhh.

ADMIN! GAMBATTE! Don't lose your temper mmmk? 

@Novus Orbis

Too much drama right? 

[Alcohol100]

@Bacardi
it's just.. the a admin have a short temper. >.<

I still love oRO but i cant be fvcked to play right now, everything seems to be different. >.<

Oh shoot! My secret's out. =)

This is exactly why he's not capable of managing a server. To be honest I loved that server too, not the admin though. Since it's a package deal. I hate them both now.


@lilsword
It causes hatred indeed which will eventually leads to the dark side O.o. Technically, this is a Rant thread so let's bring more hatred, blood and tears.

@Limitless, don't be so naive. You saw it when Admin was practically begging for reviews and donations like 3 weeks ago (if I recall correctly, that's when I joined that server). I actually remember when Admin was doing that stuff for reviews @Alcohol.

Thank you for remembering this too.


@limitless
It was never posted on the forums. He announced that in-game. The reward for both review and donation suggestion are credits. Credit is equal to getting a donation gear.

Also since you're the forum admin. Can you confirm why I can't access my lurker/dummy ID (Sup) anymore? I haven't even posted with that name.

Damn, what a mess this turned out. Let me see what I can dig in here:

So, what Alcohol100 is saying is that OriginalRO is a clone of CycloneRO and was using the same website template before the current one and that the admin of Original is playing at Cyclone and copying it step by step?

That's an serious accusation. Is there any more evidence about this? Being similar is the usual thing present in the 23817239172397129321 pservers out there but being a copy is totally different.

Same forum layout
C http://www.forums.cyclonero.com/board/
O http://www.originalro.com/board/

Same Rules
C http://www.cyclonero.com/?module=mnt&action=rules
O http://www.originalro.com/?module=pages&action=content&path=rules

Yes these are still website related examples. There's no point on him editing this afterwards. I have screenshots too.

In-game

Starting He can't even spell the word "already" for Christ's sake. I mean typo at the very beginning of the game?
C http://i39.tinypic.com/2qwg784.jpg
O http://i44.tinypic.com/2f07ofc.jpg

Prontera Focus on the Warper, Healer, Restter, Hunting NPC and Job Changer. The rest are irrelevant. I get it now why the Warper has all the levels from the start on oRO. Cause it's the exact same copy from cRO.
C http://i41.tinypic.com/1z5ktp3.jpg
O http://i44.tinypic.com/103cx7d.jpg

Left NPC Banker is gone on oRO
C http://i41.tinypic.com/2qn9l6e.jpg
O http://i43.tinypic.com/2wcefl4.jpg

Mushroom Events ftw
C http://i39.tinypic.com/262p0dl.jpg
O http://i44.tinypic.com/2i8znzn.jpg

Disguise NPC Same prize but different quantity. 2 Siegfried tokens for cRO and 1 for oRO.
C http://i40.tinypic.com/xqdqxg.jpg
O http://i42.tinypic.com/303dcf9.jpg

and

Same Host
C http://i44.tinypic.com/x5pfuo.jpg
O http://i44.tinypic.com/v7f4le.jpg

@Helga again

This is his answer ...

Get over it and stop logging into my server, LOL nerd.

I don't mind the facebook joke.

Grow the f* up NERD.

P.S: STOP PLAYING ON MY SERVER, DON'T LOG IN AGAIN, LOL

[Hummingbird]

@Bacardi

I understand now why admin acts like that towards him. The post is for that guy only. Don't tell me that you'll let it pass if a guy talks you like that?

Anyway, back on the topic.

Same rules, same host, same disguise event and same etc~ come one does that affect your daily gaming on oRO?

and it feels like they did this on purpose, you know (the guild who got banned)? they were endorsing a new private server.. then suddenly creates a havoc on the server. I was ready to leave oRO but when i saw their post and was recruiting last October 4th week.. i was like.. okkkkkkkkkkk  i've seen this on telenovelas ~____~   

Well i wish nothing but the best for them. Peace everyone~ love love love~ i'm going to stay in oRO thats for sure  

[Triper]

Cleaned some stuff not needed around [this isn't LoL or DotA 2 to rage like that] and waiting for an answer from the admin of oRO about the latest pics in the topic.

Let's try to get into the topic and not jump anymore into personal fights. Take that to PMS if you guys want.


tl;dr for some people:
- Rant about IP bans given
- IP Bans justified by the admin with exploitation of bad code from rathena
- Someone found out that CycloneRO seems to be the same as OriginalRO
- Evidence showed about last point
- Waiting for a justification from the admin side about that

[Alcohol100]

@Helga
He should have handled it more professionally though. He can do it with class and act cool. That's what I'm going to do since I don't let myself affected by Internet words.

My real issue here is him handling two servers. With all the current issue, it kinda just got mixed up and messed up at the same time.

Yes, It will gradually affect my play time. Not only it makes me think that instead of Elias focuses on oRO alone (Aside from his personal life of course). He is busy counting money earnings from his other server.

Speaking of money...

@Triper
It turned out that I'm not even done yet =). All the donations goes to only one Paypal ID. Well f*** me those donors have known this all the time.

Spoiler

C http://i44.tinypic.com/9a5u9u.jpg
O http://i43.tinypic.com/1zpt7r6.jpg

[close]

[Hummingbird]

@Helga
He should have handled it more professionally though. He can do it with class and act cool. That's what I'm going to do since I don't let myself affected by Internet words.

My real issue here is him handling two servers. With all the current issue, it kinda just got mixed up and messed up at the same time.

Yes, It will gradually affect my play time. Not only it makes me think that instead of Elias focuses on oRO alone (Aside from his personal life of course). He is busy counting money earnings from his other server.

Yea, i noticed that too  but, someone on this thread mentioned that he has the right to be angry. maybe the admin has too? Acting cool wont help while knowing their hidden agenda >.<

About the IP Ban, after learning about the server they are makin, i think they deserve it. Imagine this, you let them play your private server to steal your players and ruin your game? come one, don't tell me your just going to accept it and let it all go~ 

I don't want to be hypocrite, but i'd do the same thing too >.< the drama was just to cover up what their really intentions are.

I know admin has some flaws (sorry  ), but instead of posting some evidence about his "other server" i am posting here to let him know what he has been doing and ask for his reasons.

I have a question to you @Bacardi did you tell admin about this? about all the evidence you're showing? It would be nice to let him know everything you have to say privately, or posting here is much better [?]. Everythin can be resolved if we let him know about the problem on the server right?

/sigh

//Out of Topic

Sorry about my post, i'm just sad, my only friend in oRO left because of this issue  i hope that what they did on the server won't happen on their new server >.<

[EliasB]

Cleaned some stuff not needed around [this isn't LoL or DotA 2 to rage like that] and waiting for an answer from the admin of oRO about the latest pics in the topic.

Let's try to get into the topic and not jump anymore into personal fights. Take that to PMS if you guys want.


tl;dr for some people:
- Rant about IP bans given
- IP Bans justified by the admin with exploitation of bad code from rathena
- Someone found out that CycloneRO seems to be the same as OriginalRO
- Evidence showed about last point
- Waiting for a justification from the admin side about that

Heya,

Justification:

First of all, a person can run all the servers he wants two. THIS IS NONE OF YOUR f*** BUSINESS NOR THE DONATIONS I RECIEVE, I AM RECIEVING OR I WILL RECIEVE. IF YOU ARE JEALOUS THEN I AM DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.

2nd: I run both CycloneRO and OriginalRO. BUT CycloneRO is not under my managment, there's another administrator over there besides the rest of the staff.
3nd: Webserver: The webserver is the same, that's why your ping results in the same ip.
4th: CycloneRO is hosted in NY and OriginalRO in Amsterdam. I don't run the servers on a crappy vps like most people do.
5th: I never hidden anything, that's why the email used for donations is [email protected]...
6th: You make no point with all this s***.

GET OVER IT.

[Alcohol100]

@Helga
I am not sure with some of you guys but even if Elias kills a dozen of cute puppies, you'll still defend him. You're clearly not seeing the bigger picture here. This guy never poured an ounce sweat on making oRO. He clearly rehashed his old one, removed the unnecessary NPC's, modified the rate to make it fitting for a low rate... Voila! Profit. Not to mention changing the name to Original O.o.

If someone stole my players on my server, then something is wrong with me and my management. Maybe I won't accept that but I'll try to realize my mistakes. Instead of making things worse, I'll do anything to make up for it. Contrary to what he did.

There was no point on telling my discoveries to Elias beforehand. This guy has no redeeming qualities. I've also never told anyone about this before posting. I actually felt selfish just leaving the game like that. Hopefully, anyone I know would understand. We've all been cheated here you know.


@Elias
Are you actually pointing your RED CAPS with a swear to this site's forum admin? Let's see how this turns out.

2nd: Thank you for clearing this up.
3rd: Webserver is at CA. My bad then. The ping results never pointed to one IP. 67.205.11.233 =/= 208.113.149.38. GET OVER IT.
4th: Need proofs here or you're lying. I'm running a crappy computer right now like most people do and I don't have Cyclone's client so I can't compare. I might do this later.

You actually made me do this:
a. Downloaded GRF Tool from http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=download_tool.
b. Extracted and opened grftool.exe
c. Opened odata.grf from Original Ragnarok folder.
d. Searched for clientinfo.xml.
e. Got this IP address > 37.139.18.173.
f. Run a whois on that IP > http://i41.tinypic.com/2rcwx05.jpg.
I'm not some hacker guru here. I just did what Google provided me.

Apparently, it's at NY and not Amsterdam like you are claiming. I know of a guy who lives at Amsterdam though 

5th: Yeah you never hid anything yet you never made this clear from the start.
6th: I actually do.