Why is it no one ever talks about/uses super novice?

Started by omegacrash, Jul 19, 2009, 12:30 PM

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kinzoku

Training a Super Novice isn't too bad with the super fast cast rate but it still fails in comparison or everything else.

omegacrash

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are they good for ANYTHING other than failing? =<

EDIT: well they can use pretty much every equip due to the super novice link from the soul linker. even after the skill ends they are still able to wear the equip according to the skill. maybe that could count for something?

Anti-Static Foam Cleaner

Do you like playing Super Novice? Then play Super Novice. Depending on your build you might even kill someone sometimes.

LiteX

Quote from: omegacrash on Jul 22, 2009, 03:51 PM
are they good for ANYTHING other than failing? =<

EDIT: well they can use pretty much every equip due to the super novice link from the soul linker. even after the skill ends they are still able to wear the equip according to the skill. maybe that could count for something?

They are the only class that can get instant cast alone.
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omegacrash

Quote from: LiteX on Jul 23, 2009, 10:35 AM
Quote from: omegacrash on Jul 22, 2009, 03:51 PM
are they good for ANYTHING other than failing? =<

EDIT: well they can use pretty much every equip due to the super novice link from the soul linker. even after the skill ends they are still able to wear the equip according to the skill. maybe that could count for something?

They are the only class that can get instant cast alone.

That sounds pretty good to me?

Relics

It's just sad that insta-cast isn't really spectacular for magic.. sure you can cast fast, but you still have that nasty aftercast delay to worry about. Let alone the damage output for super novices isn't that amazing magic-wise. Profs/wizards outclass them in every magic aspect, even if they have insta-cast.

Anti-Static Foam Cleaner

Add to this the fact that they have literally no SP so you need to attack with one button and spam SP recovery items with the other...

I once made AGI/dagger SN, it was pretty fun to play. They can have insane flee(Only SinXes can have more), too bad their attack speed with daggers is so bad.

LiteX

Quote from: Anti-Static Foam Cleaner on Jul 24, 2009, 02:48 AM
Add to this the fact that they have literally no SP so you need to attack with one button and spam SP recovery items with the other...

I once made AGI/dagger SN, it was pretty fun to play. They can have insane flee(Only SinXes can have more), too bad their attack speed with daggers is so bad.

Main reason why almost no-one plays them, they have huge potentintial in some areas, but other necessery ones have many limitations
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SilverStream~

Super Novice is more like a Lord Knight but underpowered.

An allround character, but the other classes outclass the supernovices in the spesific areas.
If they made some kind of novice spesific skills, perhaps holy or call upon the gods, whatever, it would be better.
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LiteX

Quote from: SilverStream~ on Jul 24, 2009, 04:25 AM
Super Novice is more like a Lord Knight but underpowered.

An allround character, but the other classes outclass the supernovices in the spesific areas.
If they made some kind of novice spesific skills, perhaps holy or call upon the gods, whatever, it would be better.

Gravity could give the SN another class such as Hyper Novice and more levels that would give them less limitations so they would be useful, but don't get your hopes up for Gravity...
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Sanin

And once the Renewal's fixed casting time sets in...
I must accept that Super-Gluing valuable coins to the sidewalk and then watching events from a nearby café is not proper demonic activity.

Xarale

Quote from: Sanin on Jul 24, 2009, 10:05 AM
And once the Renewal's fixed casting time sets in...
Oh flip, never even thought of that.  SN's only shining ability really was the ability to easily reach instant-cast.  With that taken away, barely anyone is going to play the class anymore, aside for SN vendors & maybe those who like a challenge.

Descent

Quote from: Omi on Jul 19, 2009, 03:02 PM
efficent magic? what?

super novice is the worst class ever, and more of a novelty if anything.

Dunno, I've seen some really nasty ones. Of course, we're talking Private servers, but still.

You know a Super Novice is well-built when the only thing that takes it down is an MDEF LK.

Max

An int SN with bolts/heal/agi/tele is quite useful in hunting certain items/cards :P