First off, server information. They're "mid-rate" per se: 255/125, FOR ALL CLASSES including TK.
There aren't many TK Rankers, or TKs for that matter (I'm at 20 points and I'm in 2nd!), so I have a lot of time to get the rank up eventually. However, I'm not sure if I should stay with TK Ranker or go straight to SG.
Things to note: GTB is at 70%
I'm using SG/ TK Ranker for two things: PVP and MVP hunting.
No cards have been nerfed and there are no donates that have 4-slots and s***. So I have a slot for top and mid headgear. There are no Slepnirs or Megs [yet]. So ignore them.
Bishop is for magic-classes only.
That's pretty much it.
What kind of stats do I want if I stay TK Ranker? I currently have: 60 Vit, enough Agi for 189 and 255 Str (Oh and Dex to have 400 hit).
For SG, I do not know them that very well, so if you believe I should go SG, by all means, please specify some stats and equips.
As for equips, even the knowledge of what kind of headgear I should use and such would be helpful. Should I go with Odin's Blessing, even though it breaks? or get some MDef with a Robe.
Please help, thanks guys.
hm hm hm...TK is pretty much outclassed offensively on HR, since his greatest ability is enormous stun-spam, wich is totally useless on HR. Speaking of damage output, it is crap. On the other hand tho, triple hp/sp you gain from being ranker might play very important role. Compared to TK, SG has approx. double damage output if you increase aspd to match it, but loses special kicks. If you are able to gain Book of the Dead (Ledger of Death), SG can be incredible coma-dealer, but IMO is in that role again matched or outclassed by other classes.
In fact, on HR I see no reason for playing either TK or SG.
Wait... HR?
100x rates are HR?
I can get Book of the Dead easily :3 I keep searching it for on RMS, but I never see it. I guess you're using an alias?
TKs are useless in WOE and for MVP... there's better. But uh... I dunno. I thought TK rankers would be fast-hitters and killers. They have Flying Side-kicked, high jump and running that gives them a nice boost. Oh, let's not forget about Warm Wind and Break fall
Max ASPD is 196, but I keep mine at 189, just enough for Combos.
Book of the Dead is one of Berzebubs drops. o.o
All I'm sayin' on this matter, lol.
More input would be appreciated.
Ledger of Death appears okay. 2 slots, -20 luk. MATK?
Doesn't show his location.
Go for TK Ranker... AGI influences in the speed that you can spam combos, so make a note of that..
You have already narrowed down your option between TK Ranker or Star Gladiator.
Which among the two is better at PVP and MVP?
I would prefer Star Gladiator.
MVP
Warmth Star Gladiator is quite a formidable MVP character. Check if your server has nerf the HITS per Second of WARMTH. Originally, it was 50 hits per second, but it was later reduced to 10 hits per second. Even after the nerf, Star Gladiators are still able to excel at MVP. Mainly because of UNION (penetrate DEF of monsters), Never Miss, access to 7 elements, Fighting Chant and WARMTH (10 or 50 hits per second). Check if your server provide an easier way to reset your sun, moon and stars map? If yes, then its more reason to choose Star Gladiator, as it will no longer limit your MVP maps. Are you able to reset your skills/stats? An AGI Blind Star Gladiator is also able to be an efficient MVP character.
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A Warmth SG at 50 hits per second (He is also blind, so he is not a pure Warmth SG; something you can achieve easily with 125 job skill)
PVP
Not my area of expertise. In a PVP map, WARMTH will drain the SP of your opponent. Without SP, you don't really have to worry about Skill Spamming - like Sonic Blow. Does your server allow you to reset the Hatred of the Sun, Moon and Stars? If yes, then its even more beneficial. You could do more damage to your selected target class (Target: SinX) This enable you to do more damage against any SinX. A SG can equip with a book, TK Ranker cannot use a weapon. Anything a TK Ranker can do; a SG can do more - except combo. With 125 job skills, you can easily max out all the skills on both TK and SG class if deemed necessary.
Recommended readings:
http://write.ratemyserver.net/ragnoark-online-character-guides/star-gladiator-guide/
http://write.ratemyserver.net/ragnoark-online-character-guides/taekwon-ranker-guide/
Well, that doesn't help at all. With such an elaborate post, I am now even more unsure of the two. I'm really more into PVP than MVP (We have Angra for MVPs and Dungeons [196 ASPD, 1,000 attack, 80% regen life].
Ranker does have that Tripled SP and HP which allows more survivability.
Server doesn't have the reset command, but a slight suggestion will lean them towards it. Is there a manual way to do it? [You said easier, thus I'm assuming there is a way, but harder]
Now blind? Isn't that through Hatred? Do I want that?
Also, don't I need to be Soul-linked? I can get a Soul-Linker to do it for me at will (dual-boxing), but what are it's advantages?
Also, if it's manual nerf (meaning they must specifically edit their server to nerf) then no, they probably haven't nerfed it yet. However, if it's default, then yes, it's been nerfed.
What will be my main modes of attack? What kind of items am I looking for?
Resetting your Places/Targets is a killer for your mental stability. You have to sit down next to another TK-class character (TK or SG, and I believe SL works too) and keep spamming /doridori for Happy Break or whatever it's called to activate over and over in the hope that an angel appears and resets your stuff.
Blind comes through Demon of the Sun, Moon and Stars, not Hatred. Hatred increases your damage against the respective Targets.
Do I need hatred?
I still don't know whether to go TK or SG
Flip a coin. Let chance decide your class. If you really want to, have a vote.
I say star gladiator. They're more fun to play with and you don't see that many people who can own with them. I think Star gladiators can excel in damage more than the TK. Aside that the TK has the tripled hp/sp, you access to more personal buffs.
SG=More damage.
TK=More HP and less complication.
Quote from: Xeighter on Jan 02, 2009, 02:42 PM
Do I need hatred?
For a Warmth build? Yes. It yields a superior damage, since you're restricted anyway with Places so adding Targets is just a small nuisance.
For a Demon build? I advice against it. First because of the stats required to make it truly worthwile (Dex and Luk) and secondly because you'll remove the freedom that not-going-Warmth provides.
You see more people own with TK Ranker?
Yeah, I'm not going to let chance nor a vote (without justifications of the voters/ reasons) decide my choice.
I dunno anything of these warmth and demon builds.
I thought SG had less complication? Press all the buffs and warm skills and then flying side kick and such? Edit: read the guide and it appears they need to know more.
Also, they don't get the Running bonus stat and their best book relies on coma...
Nope. SG is like a TK except with more skills (which, by definition, increases complication for any class :P) of which pretty much every one has a restriction of sorts.
Quote from: CookieEater on Jan 02, 2009, 03:24 PM
Nope. SG is like a TK except with more skills (which, by definition, increases complication for any class :P) of which pretty much every one has a restriction of sorts.
Edit: read the guide and it appears they need to know more.
Also, they don't get the Running bonus stat and their best book relies on coma...
Yeah xD Just read their guide.
I'm mainly focusing on PvP, what would the SGs main attack skills? What kind of strategy would I be looking for?
Edit: Also, will I be able to survive against Bio 3 MVPs? They kill me incredibly fast with my Taekwon (Max vit)
For PvP a favorite is Book of Death (I refuse to say Ledger) combined with Demon and a lot of Agi for constant damage with a chance at causing Coma. If you go for Warmth you will be an excellent defender for your castle: your Targets will likely be the typical offensive classes.
Never use the Soul Link for PvP. The damage you take is increased to 8% HP per attack if you attack a player, and attacking a player when you're under 20% instantly kills you.
BOD relies on coma no? What if they have GTB or resists? What kind of cards should I put in my book?
I'm not looking to make SG for WOE, just PVP.
Union sounds good if I have Tao Gunka, no? or LK card? I dunno about LK because it'll server off all my abilities and uses).
If I were to use hatred, which class should I target? I can't exactly reset it in PvP on the whim without being ganked. So I would prefer to just target a class ahead of time. Never miss means I don't need dex and can put it elsewhere?
Anger works in PVP too, eh?
Demon blinds me o__o? Can ESL prevent blindness?
P.s do you know where I can find Beeze? can you link me to a guide that will take me to him?
What's the use of increasing your health with a skill that works with Max HP? Nothing, that is.
Coma cannot be prevented by a GTB card as far as I know, and the stat that provides resistance to it is Luk. Inversely your Luk reduces opponents' resist chance.
For Hatred you will WANT more Dex (and Luk) for the damage increasing effect (which is (BaseLV+LUK+DEX)/3)%), regardless of wether you have enough Hit (with 1 Dex and 1 Luk you'll get +33% on your Target, which, with a few points in Dex and Luk, can easily double if you're not stupid enough to think you are better off with those points elsewhere). For Targets pick whatever you have trouble killing DPS-wise.
Yes, Demon blinds. But Demon is undispellable which makes it a good skill at the same time. The blindness does not count the same as the Blind status, it cannot be cured or prevented.
Quote from: CookieEater on Jan 02, 2009, 05:02 PM
What's the use of increasing your health with a skill that works with Max HP? Nothing, that is.
Coma cannot be prevented by a GTB card as far as I know, and the stat that provides resistance to it is Luk. Inversely your Luk reduces opponents' resist chance.
For Hatred you will WANT more Dex (and Luk) for the damage increasing effect (which is (BaseLV+LUK+DEX)/3)%), regardless of wether you have enough Hit (with 1 Dex and 1 Luk you'll get +33% on your Target, which, with a few points in Dex and Luk, can easily double if you're not stupid enough to think you are better off with those points elsewhere). For Targets pick whatever you have trouble killing DPS-wise.
Yes, Demon blinds. But Demon is undispellable which makes it a good skill at the same time. The blindness does not count the same as the Blind status, it cannot be cured or prevented.
Hm... okay. No Union then, but I like the floating effect D: Though, the pros outweight the cons, no? SGs have s*** Vit and don't survive long, shouldn't we give it all we got before going down in flames:
When linked, your movement speed is increased and all your attacks never miss and ignore DEF, but you loose 2% of your HP every time you attack a monster and 8% HP every time you attack a player, also if you attack a player when you only have 20% HP left, you will be killed instantly afterwards. Ignore def makes you hit even hard (255 Str), 0 dex needed (or as much as you want for hatred), a lot of agi and you will like a phantom? ;D
Or maybe I'm just shooting things to the extreme.
Right, so the book appears to be a lot more enticing now. However, the +15% MATK is pointless :x
Still: WHAT CARDS?
Also, what will my stats look like?
Does the hatred skills stack? Like if I put all of my hatred of sun/ stars and moon on one class?
Blind isn't good :x
Edit: still need a guide to find beelzebub
Posted on: Jan 02, 2009, 10:05 am
Everything just feels like they're against the other.
Demon gives more ASPD, meaning I don't much AGI in there to achieve 196
However, I need AGI to dodge most attacks because I have very low Vit
I need heavy Dex, but putting in Luk is pointless to gain more attack power. Dex will help me get 196 ASPD too however
The temp. comfort buff gives me even more ASPD, so I don't need to put in Agi
So, so far, I'm getting the feeling that I need 255 Str
a lot of dex and uh... the rest vit?
Beelzbub is in abbey03 isn't he? Oo
Sorry I ain't helpful between TK Ranker or Star Gladiator, I just dunno either class well enough to have an input about them.
Quote from: Azurene on Jan 02, 2009, 06:14 PM
Beelzbub is in abbey03 isn't he? Oo
Sorry I ain't helpful between TK Ranker or Star Gladiator, I just dunno either class well enough to have an input about them.
Do you have the chain-quest to start the Cursed Abbey quest?
Thanks for your help anyways :3 It was really needed.
If I remember correctly, it has two prequesites.
Rachel Sanctuary Quest (http://irowiki.org/wiki/Rachel_Sanctuary_Quest)
And
Veins Siblings Quest (http://irowiki.org/wiki/Veins_Siblings_Quest)
QuoteQuest starts at Zhed, and takes you south of veins where you take the boat to the island.
I think that's what you were aiming for. Half asleep ftl.
Thank
you
Greatly!
You're welcome, anything else you need?
Quote from: Azurene on Jan 02, 2009, 07:02 PM
You're welcome, anything else you need?
Nope, I can't think of much. A lot of the MVPs that say they don't have a location, turns out they do.
Like Kiel?
Geffen dungeon for Dracula? Where's that? How do I get there?
GUN? Gloom Under Knight? How do I get to precinct? We don't have a warpra for that spot.
Posted on: Jan 02, 2009, 11:07 am
Quote from: Xeighter on Jan 02, 2009, 06:13 PM
Quote from: CookieEater on Jan 02, 2009, 05:02 PM
What's the use of increasing your health with a skill that works with Max HP? Nothing, that is.
Coma cannot be prevented by a GTB card as far as I know, and the stat that provides resistance to it is Luk. Inversely your Luk reduces opponents' resist chance.
For Hatred you will WANT more Dex (and Luk) for the damage increasing effect (which is (BaseLV+LUK+DEX)/3)%), regardless of wether you have enough Hit (with 1 Dex and 1 Luk you'll get +33% on your Target, which, with a few points in Dex and Luk, can easily double if you're not stupid enough to think you are better off with those points elsewhere). For Targets pick whatever you have trouble killing DPS-wise.
Yes, Demon blinds. But Demon is undispellable which makes it a good skill at the same time. The blindness does not count the same as the Blind status, it cannot be cured or prevented.
Hm... okay. No Union then, but I like the floating effect D: Though, the pros outweight the cons, no? SGs have s*** Vit and don't survive long, shouldn't we give it all we got before going down in flames: When linked, your movement speed is increased and all your attacks never miss and ignore DEF, but you loose 2% of your HP every time you attack a monster and 8% HP every time you attack a player, also if you attack a player when you only have 20% HP left, you will be killed instantly afterwards. Ignore def makes you hit even hard (255 Str), 0 dex needed (or as much as you want for hatred), a lot of agi and you will like a phantom? ;D
Or maybe I'm just shooting things to the extreme.
Right, so the book appears to be a lot more enticing now. However, the +15% MATK is pointless :x
Still: WHAT CARDS?
Also, what will my stats look like?
Does the hatred skills stack? Like if I put all of my hatred of sun/ stars and moon on one class?
Blind isn't good :x
Edit: still need a guide to find beelzebub
Posted on: Jan 02, 2009, 10:05 am
Everything just feels like they're against the other.
Demon gives more ASPD, meaning I don't much AGI in there to achieve 196
However, I need AGI to dodge most attacks because I have very low Vit
I need heavy Dex, but putting in Luk is pointless to gain more attack power. Dex will help me get 196 ASPD too however
The temp. comfort buff gives me even more ASPD, so I don't need to put in Agi
So, so far, I'm getting the feeling that I need 255 Str
a lot of dex and uh... the rest vit?
For CookieEater or anyone with knowledge to answer this.
Posted on: Jan 02, 2009, 11:08 am
Up.
Posted on: Jan 03, 2009, 03:11 am
Up again.
SG(TKM) is an obvious choice because with 125 skill points you can max everything and Ranker PvM build doesn't exist as far as I know.
What stats do you want? That depends on what you want to kill with.
SLS Heat: Max STR(damage), medium-high VIT(survival), medium INT(Heat has hefty 100SP cost). Flying Side Kick to the enemy then Heat him against a wall which will rip him apart. This obviously requires a solid deal of micro in PvP unless you're fighting people who have no idea what TKM is(Which might very well be the case).
SLS Wrath: You need STR(For damage), LUK(for bonus damage), DEX(For bonus damage and hitting) and AGI(For aspd).
SLS Union is used for emp breaking and works well at it, but you didn't mention WoE so...
I wouldn't bother with SLS Shadow. On HR you can get max aspd with pure stats and the blind effect is really damn annoying.
Quote from: Xeighter on Jan 03, 2009, 06:30 PM
Nope, I can't think of much. A lot of the MVPs that say they don't have a location, turns out they do.
Like Kiel?
Geffen dungeon for Dracula? Where's that? How do I get there?
Make sure you look for the right one. If you search for Kiel under monsters, you will find 2: one that is not implemented and the other one that is at Kiel Dungeon 2.
Geffen Dungeon is in the building in the middle of Geffen. You need to get in and go through a bunch of portals until you reach a place with (if I remember correctly) reddish color. You will see a bunch of Hunter Flies and Poison Spores. Proceed to the 2nd floor and you will reach Geffen Dungeon 2, where Dracula...
Not sure about GUN.
GuN: Spawns in Rachel Sanctuary F5. To get there, go to rachel sanctuary F1 (first map with monsters) portal in the middle of F1 is kinda random, throws you into either F2 or F4. From F4, you can continue to F5, where GuN spawns.
Rachel Sanc quest: http://irowiki.org/wiki/Rachel_Sanctuary_Quest
I did the quest, but uh... I don't know how to get there.
Posted on: Jan 04, 2009, 05:33 am
Quote from: Anti-Static Foam Cleaner on Jan 04, 2009, 07:29 AM
SG(TKM) is an obvious choice because with 125 skill points you can max everything and Ranker PvM build doesn't exist as far as I know.
What stats do you want? That depends on what you want to kill with.
SLS Heat: Max STR(damage), medium-high VIT(survival), medium INT(Heat has hefty 100SP cost). Flying Side Kick to the enemy then Heat him against a wall which will rip him apart. This obviously requires a solid deal of micro in PvP unless you're fighting people who have no idea what TKM is(Which might very well be the case).
SLS Wrath: You need STR(For damage), LUK(for bonus damage), DEX(For bonus damage and hitting) and AGI(For aspd).
SLS Union is used for emp breaking and works well at it, but you didn't mention WoE so...
I wouldn't bother with SLS Shadow. On HR you can get max aspd with pure stats and the blind effect is really damn annoying.
I don't think I'll go with Heat.
I might go with wrath, but with the Demon, I can put less in Agi and do more output damage, no? And Dex gives a little boost in ASPD :3
But I won't have any dodge...
Posted on: Jan 04, 2009, 05:37 am
I still need ideas for equips and cards though :x
Posted on: Jan 04, 2009, 05:37 am
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Posted on: Jan 04, 2009, 07:18 pm
Up.
Posted on: Jan 05, 2009, 06:11 am
Up.
Again, I'm looking for equips and cards.
What does Critical Wounds do?
Critical wounds: Added in ep. 12, this status is so far available only via some equip. When a character is under this effect, any healing items or skills or whatever hitpoint healing used on him have their effectivity reduced by 20%. Level 2 of this skill, inflicted only by some highly overupgraded weapon, can decrease effectivity of any healing by 40%.
Based on descriptions of equipment from ep.12
Thanks.
Also, besides waiting for equips and card advice.
I was wondering if the Comfort of the Stars/ Moon/ Sun affects the effect of Thanatos.
Meaning, will I be hurt more with comfort.
Not sure really if Ice Pick/Thana card are affected by vitdef or only hard def. If they are, the skill that increases vitdef would increase damage taken.
Yeah, it's not really clear ._.;;
Posted on: Jan 06, 2009, 07:51 am
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Stop. Bumping. Your. Topic.
Just because nobody gives an immediate reply doesn't mean we don't want to. It means we have lives outside this forum.
Oh, and Ice Pick/Thanatos card work the same as Occult Impact/Investigate, the Monk skill. Go find info on that if you want to know more.
Quote from: CookieEater on Jan 07, 2009, 04:45 AM
Just because nobody gives an immediate reply doesn't mean we don't want to. It means we have lives outside this forum.
Or that we don't know.
Quote from: Anti-Static Foam Cleaner on Jan 07, 2009, 08:01 AM
Quote from: CookieEater on Jan 07, 2009, 04:45 AM
Just because nobody gives an immediate reply doesn't mean we don't want to. It means we have lives outside this forum.
Or that we don't know.
This.
I never claimed that nobody intentionally wants to withhold information from me, just that the right person has not come forward to help me.
In this case, I'm going to keep bringing this topic up until answered. Contribute more concrete answers and I'll be less of a nuisance.
So please, answer or be gone, you've done your part and now you're just wasting my time with your temper tantrums.
Thank you.
Who's bringing it to a personal level? I never said you have no life, just that we do and that it is annoying to keep bumping a topic like that. You have no right to DEMAND our attention. We do not work here and have no obligations towards you or anybody else. We're just bored people who like RO.
Quote from: CookieEater on Jan 07, 2009, 12:06 PM
Who's bringing it to a personal level? I never said you have no life, just that we do and that it is annoying to keep bumping a topic like that. You have no right to DEMAND our attention. We do not work here and have no obligations towards you or anybody else. We're just bored people who like RO.
No one's demanding anything.
No one's begging you to answer.
No one's obligating you to do anything.
Here's a clue: Don't like it, be bored elsewhere?
Who's we? You're the only one raising a ruckus.
Posted on: Jan 07, 2009, 04:10 am
P.s It doesn't look like Thana is affected by Warmth skills as it depending on the vit and the defense, not vit defense.
okay guys
Xeighter, people are here taking time out of their day to help you, don't expect them to be here every minute of the day okay? =/
and besides, there are rules against bumping a topic a excessively...
the rest of you, personally, i think you did a great job helping
so, how about we all just wait, and see how this plays out?
Quote from: JJJ on Jan 07, 2009, 06:54 PM
okay guys
Xeighter, people are here taking time out of their day to help you, don't expect them to be here every minute of the day okay? =/
and besides, there are rules against bumping a topic a excessively...
the rest of you, personally, i think you did a great job helping
so, how about we all just wait, and see how this plays out?
Whoa, whoa? Do you check the time I "bump" or reply to myself? I do it twice a day (once even) at way different periods of time and when my topic is 5-6 topics down the list. I'm not expecting anything but a reply at any given time possible or when that person wishes to reply. I don't know where your getting notions of impatience or demands, but I don't see anything that can be clearly interpreted as so.
Please, don't be mistaken:
Posted on: Jan 04, 2009, 07:18 pm
Up.
Posted on: Jan 05, 2009, 06:11 am
Up.
A perfect example of my point.
i never said you did it excessively, i just said it was against the rules =P
How is it relevant to this topic then?
besides means in junction with or in correlation.
Posted on: Jan 07, 2009, 11:45 am
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I am playing TK Ranker atm and used to play SG a long time ago. As for equipment, I would say that Mythical Lion Mask has proven to be quite useful to me. It adds some DEX, chances of stun, and ATK depending on the refine rate. It also has a slot. Only bad thing is that it uses both upper and middle slot, so if your server has implemented the Sunglasses[1] quest, you might wanna reconsider if you want a +STR upper headgear along with a card in upper+middle. My Ranker has high AGI because higher ASPD makes kick spamming faster (at least in my server). I use Falcon Muffler, Freya's Shoes, Odin's Blessing combo and a Stone Buckler. These were equipment that nobody used in my guild, so I decided to keep my character cheap. As for cards, with these equipment I use Grand Peco + Peco peco Card on headgear + armor; racial reduction cards on shield; Mantis on Rings. Might not be the uber equipment everyone is looking for, but it gets the job done.
For alternatives, you can start searching on Items/Armors/(whichever you are looking for)/Job: Taekwon/Star Gladiator. It will show you all the available equipments for your class. Valkyrie Shield might be better than Stone Buckler (if it is easily attainable in your server), Glittering Jacket/Divine Clothes/ Goibe's Armor with Peco peco for extra HP, (I don't know if your server allows the class to use "Every Rebirth Job except High Novice," but mine doesn't, so I'm just going to put "Every job expect novice" equipment) Boots[1] with Matyr if AGI/Green Ferus if VIT. This is the only stuff I can think of right now. I'm not saying this are the ultimate equipment for the class, but they are equipments that worked for me so far.
There's a sunglasses quest? Is it hard? Can you link me?
They probably do have it implemented and I can test the quest on the dev. server to confirm it.
For my TK Ranker, I thought of getting Ulle's Cap with Odin's with Garm/ Tao Gunka
Valk. Shield with GTB (70% reduction) and Thara Frog.
Pneuma Str Ring
and Horong str ring (sight)
Manteau with Deviling or Sin X
as for headgear: Sunglasses with Orc Hero
and Ulle's cap is going to have something that doesn't silence me.
For shoes: No idea :x boots? Wanted to get bunny slippers, but I have no idea how...
or High heels, again dunno how. So... boots with Amon Ra?
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Then... I think I'll prepare to become SG, but I don't know anything about it's equips or stats :x Very low vit, but apparently, he kills hard...
So Book of the Dead with LOD card?
standard Sunglasses[1] quest starts in Alberta, you should find Sunglasses trader (or something like that) NPC in upper part of Alberta, near big house..if I remember correctly from the enterance to Alberta go down, take first turn right, then go up...
Wooh~ If we include MvP cards/equipment, then it's a whole different story. Servers where the lvl limit is over 99 usually don't invest much on VIT because Acid Demonstration can trash you.
With fast attacks, TKs can be very reliable on stuns, that's why I suggested Mythical Lion Mask, but it is ultimately your choice.
I wouldn't suggest to have the Horong Ring equipped all the time, since it is only situational, and if you were referring to Errende Ebecee Card, it relies too much on chances.
For Garment, the cheap one to go for is Raydric. If you want reduction + Flee, go for a +9/+10 Garment with Orc Baby. Deviling is nice against those who inflict physical (Neutral) dmg, but not so against other elements.
If you can choose any shoes, then go for Variant Shoes.
Orc hero is a good choice if your VIT doesn't get to a 100 (for immunity), then again, I doubt that you will reach to 100 VIT. You have another card to spare for Headgear since Ulle's got a slot as well. I wouldn't go for Marduk card since you can just carry green potions to counter silence. Dunno how easy it is to refine in your server, but if it is relatively easy, you can get an extra +4 STR with Seyren Windsor. Another option is to go for Grand Peco and get some extra VIT along with DEF.
I'm out of ideas...
At least in my server, the Sunglasses[1] quest is next to the armor/weapon shop of Prontera. No links, sorry.
Quote from: MemoZzz on Jan 09, 2009, 04:56 AM
Wooh~ If we include MvP cards/equipment, then it's a whole different story. Servers where the lvl limit is over 99 usually don't invest much on VIT because Acid Demonstration can trash you.
With fast attacks, TKs can be very reliable on stuns, that's why I suggested Mythical Lion Mask, but it is ultimately your choice.
I wouldn't suggest to have the Horong Ring equipped all the time, since it is only situational, and if you were referring to Errende Ebecee Card, it relies too much on chances.
For Garment, the cheap one to go for is Raydric. If you want reduction + Flee, go for a +9/+10 Garment with Orc Baby. Deviling is nice against those who inflict physical (Neutral) dmg, but not so against other elements.
If you can choose any shoes, then go for Variant Shoes.
Orc hero is a good choice if your VIT doesn't get to a 100 (for immunity), then again, I doubt that you will reach to 100 VIT. You have another card to spare for Headgear since Ulle's got a slot as well. I wouldn't go for Marduk card since you can just carry green potions to counter silence. Dunno how easy it is to refine in your server, but if it is relatively easy, you can get an extra +4 STR with Seyren Windsor. Another option is to go for Grand Peco and get some extra VIT along with DEF.
I'm out of ideas...
At least in my server, the Sunglasses[1] quest is next to the armor/weapon shop of Prontera. No links, sorry.
Thanks Sarin
I have to get the pneuma card because there is no way to prevent long-range attacks.
Someone gets an Orc Hero card and then I can't stun, to invest everything I have with that is pretty risky.
Deviling + GTB doesn't work nicely?
Not easy to refine.
Thanks again :3 I think I have general idea now
Posted on: Jan 09, 2009, 03:45 am
Wait... 100 vit = Immunity to stun?
Won't that leave me vulnerable to Thanatos?
Posted on: Jan 09, 2009, 04:25 am
Oh and are books breakable?
With MvP cards and high stats available, it is plain stupid IMO to go for stun. Yes, 97 vit grants you imunity to stun (or maybe just reduces stun time below noticeable value) And TK is pretty much dependant on stunning his opponents. So...
Of course, people don't usually go on HRs for high vit...but at HR, 97 is not a high vit.
Al'right. I'll go SG when I get the necessary material.
97 vit, eh? Does this make me extremely vulnerable to Thanatos? Keep in mind of Tao Gunka, thus I should have low def :3
Quote from: Xeighter on Jan 09, 2009, 05:07 PM
97 vit, eh? Does this make me extremely vulnerable to Thanatos? Keep in mind of Tao Gunka, thus I should have low def :3
Tao will matter little to Thana, since Rankers never had high Def to begin with. Only Lord Knights and (especially) Palladins get high Def gear. Thana counts both armor Def and Vit Def, but Tao only reduces Armor Def. Of course, you'll have very high HP and the damage will be lowered a bit. I don't have any formulas so I don't know the actual impact.
Quote from: CookieEater on Jan 09, 2009, 05:29 PM
Quote from: Xeighter on Jan 09, 2009, 05:07 PM
97 vit, eh? Does this make me extremely vulnerable to Thanatos? Keep in mind of Tao Gunka, thus I should have low def :3
Tao will matter little to Thana, since Rankers never had high Def to begin with. Only Lord Knights and (especially) Palladins get high Def gear. Thana counts both armor Def and Vit Def, but Tao only reduces Armor Def. Of course, you'll have very high HP and the damage will be lowered a bit. I don't have any formulas so I don't know the actual impact.
So I guess the SG ability is pretty useless too since I have to be wary of Thanatos.