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Offline Anti-Static Foam Cleaner

Kaina - necessary or not?
« on: Jun 15, 2008, 02:25 pm »
SL with 120INT has just under 2kHP without equips/cards. Then again, each Estin+Esma is 110SP, and level 7 Kaina cuts it to 55, plus it gives 210 more SP.

Then again, it wastes very precious skill points.

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Offline Jason

Re: Kaina - necessary or not?
« Reply #1 on: Jun 15, 2008, 02:27 pm »
SL with 120INT has just under 2kHP without equips/cards. Then again, each Estin+Esma is 110SP, and level 7 Kaina cuts it to 55, plus it gives 210 more SP.

Then again, it wastes very precious skill points.
I agree using this on botting purposes for some reason /heh
But truly, it's not needed.
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Offline ~~T~~

Re: Kaina - necessary or not?
« Reply #2 on: Jun 21, 2008, 06:06 pm »
If you had low int, then it would be nescessary, but I think you got that covered :P
Don't waste on it, just if you don't have anything else to waste the points with

mark_sanbeda

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Re: Kaina - necessary or not?
« Reply #3 on: Jun 22, 2008, 12:10 am »
If you had low int, then it would be nescessary, but I think you got that covered :P
Don't waste on it, just if you don't have anything else to waste the points with

I tried it.. without kaina and an int of 1 your going to have a total of 1200+ sp

Offline baseballGuy

Re: Kaina - necessary or not?
« Reply #4 on: Jun 22, 2008, 12:25 am »
SL with 120INT has just under 2kHP without equips/cards. Then again, each Estin+Esma is 110SP, and level 7 Kaina cuts it to 55, plus it gives 210 more SP.

Then again, it wastes very precious skill points.
Its useful for Esma type linkers... unless you have Pharoah Card then you wont need kaina; i tried using an Esma type linker and it needs to sit every single time because it ran out of sp.

Offline Anti-Static Foam Cleaner

Re: Kaina - necessary or not?
« Reply #5 on: Jun 22, 2008, 03:22 am »
Especially with Vitata, eh.

Offline DjTeddySpin

Re: Kaina - necessary or not?
« Reply #6 on: Jun 22, 2008, 05:44 am »
Esma eats SP too fast. But i just can't get over the damage. Some servers let it be used in PVP.
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Offline baseballGuy

Re: Kaina - necessary or not?
« Reply #7 on: Jun 22, 2008, 06:15 am »
Esma eats SP too fast. But i just can't get over the damage. Some servers let it be used in PVP.
Ive seen servers that lets Estin and Estun be used in PvP but Esma? thats a bit Overkill

Offline Jason

Re: Kaina - necessary or not?
« Reply #8 on: Jun 22, 2008, 06:51 am »
Esma eats SP too fast. But i just can't get over the damage. Some servers let it be used in PVP.
Ive seen servers that lets Estin and Estun be used in PvP but Esma? thats a bit Overkill
yes, with its casting rate compared to the bolts. But if it's a 99/70 you're talking about, not really a big deal at all.
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Offline baseballGuy

Re: Kaina - necessary or not?
« Reply #9 on: Jun 22, 2008, 07:45 am »
Esma eats SP too fast. But i just can't get over the damage. Some servers let it be used in PVP.
Ive seen servers that lets Estin and Estun be used in PvP but Esma? thats a bit Overkill
yes, with its casting rate compared to the bolts. But if it's a 99/70 you're talking about, not really a big deal at all.
The damage would be about 6k at least... what i hate is when the Estin and Estun gets modified and knocks you back.. its just lame.

mark_sanbeda

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Re: Kaina - necessary or not?
« Reply #10 on: Jun 22, 2008, 07:53 am »
Esma eats SP too fast. But i just can't get over the damage. Some servers let it be used in PVP.
Ive seen servers that lets Estin and Estun be used in PvP but Esma? thats a bit Overkill
yes, with its casting rate compared to the bolts. But if it's a 99/70 you're talking about, not really a big deal at all.
The damage would be about 6k at least... what i hate is when the Estin and Estun gets modified and knocks you back.. its just lame.

Its lamer if you can't move *cough* stun

Offline Jason

Re: Kaina - necessary or not?
« Reply #11 on: Jun 22, 2008, 08:39 am »
Hijacked - Welcome to the Soul linker thread. lol.
But seriously, Kaina is useful for botting. That is from my experience though.
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Offline Ansuz Isaz

Re: Kaina - necessary or not?
« Reply #12 on: Jun 22, 2008, 11:16 am »
One of the key reasons they can't fight in PVP or WoE is because they can fair a hell of a punch. =P Plus, their buffs are sexy. Instant resurrection, fairly decent instant cures, guaranteed dodge, spell deflection... It gets silly. xD Plus, they've got several debuffs that would be a pain if used on players. I kind of think they'd be over-powered on a PVP / WoE aspect without modification. =P

On the aspect of Kaina: With that high of an INT, it's really based on personal preference. o.o If you really abuse your skills - fight very quickly, fly-wing like, and not allow the natural SP regen to keep up - then it wouldn't hurt. D=

I personally ignore it on a normal server. xD Mostly because I like playing a support Soul Linker in a WoE situation where I have a fellow Soul Linker to work with. We act as almost sexier Priests when we're together. =D

So... Shorter version? Depends how heavily you use Esma. n_n It definitely doesn't hurt if it takes several blows to hit your target. Then again, unless you're dealing with an MVP and have a tank, you really shouldn't be dealing with anything that takes more than three blasts to kill. They'll fry you alive. xD Even with our buffs, they can't take too many hits. If you're getting attacked, you'll need every drop of SP you can get for Kaahi, so, in that case, it'd be very handy.

... Damn it! >< That wasn't shorter.

Offline Jason

Re: Kaina - necessary or not?
« Reply #13 on: Jun 22, 2008, 01:00 pm »
Kahii esma rox with kaina. /ok
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Offline baseballGuy

Re: Kaina - necessary or not?
« Reply #14 on: Jun 22, 2008, 07:22 pm »
Hijacked - Welcome to the Soul linker thread. lol.
But seriously, Kaina is useful for botting. That is from my experience though.
Sorry for Hijacking ... anyway Kaina isn't that worth it if you have other SP reduction items\cards.
But if your just going to bot it for PvP for your SinX then use Kaina.