Have whitesmith become irrelevant over the years in pvp/woe and pvm?

Started by Kolby, Jul 03, 2015, 10:51 PM

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ggwp

You listed too much high end stuff and MvP card like its easy to get. Are you talking about high rate server ? Realistically speaking , if you got IS slotting it into Infiltrator for SinX would give more profit than this gimmick glass cannon WS.

Yes , you can swap. But you will have huge headache when you get fiber locked (it bypass GTB immunity). Either you use cranial switch and get dispelled or you tank those DPS without reduce.

Without dispel on the enemy side, BB LK would be better cleaner than that gimmick glass cannon WS due to AoE damage (and since you talk on high rate , if that LK have 2 beelz card , ggwpnore). Hence the topic , have WS become irrelevant over the years in PvP / WoE.

Either he use better vit dish or his luk are severely buffed.
- Chance = BaseChance - BaseChance * tarVit / 100 + srcBaseLevel - tarBaseLevel - tarLuk
- Duration = BaseDuration - BaseDuration * tarVit / 100 - 10 * tarLuk
- Default duration: 5000ms (Stun)

MOH = Medal of Honor (Merchant) / Merchant class BG Acc.

Blinzer

Quote from: ggwp on Nov 12, 2016, 05:38 PM
You listed too much high end stuff and MvP card like its easy to get. Are you talking about high rate server ? Realistically speaking , if you got IS slotting it into Infiltrator for SinX would give more profit than this gimmick glass cannon WS.

Yes , you can swap. But you will have huge headache when you get fiber locked (it bypass GTB immunity). Either you use cranial switch and get dispelled or you tank those DPS without reduce.

Without dispel on the enemy side, BB LK would be better cleaner than that gimmick glass cannon WS due to AoE damage (and since you talk on high rate , if that LK have 2 beelz card , ggwpnore). Hence the topic , have WS become irrelevant over the years in PvP / WoE.

Either he use better vit dish or his luk are severely buffed.
- Chance = BaseChance - BaseChance * tarVit / 100 + srcBaseLevel - tarBaseLevel - tarLuk
- Duration = BaseDuration - BaseDuration * tarVit / 100 - 10 * tarLuk
- Default duration: 5000ms (Stun)

MOH = Medal of Honor (Merchant) / Merchant class BG Acc.


You do raise excellent points about a SinX dishing out more damage than a Whitesmith by using kiel cards to stack sonic blows, and I've never seen a lord knight use beelzebub cards but that sounds devastating with a 60+ dex build. In theory it would seem the odds are stacked against the Whitesmith, so I will agree that it is the weakest(or maybe Stalker is, but I swear people used that class for a reason in WoE); however, I cannot agree to it being useless. The DPS output is over the threshold required to eliminate any target it gets in range for. I will not turn a blank eye to this potential, even if other classes are well above it. My main beef here was simply was the misconception that it did not have this damage potential when in fact it does.

I always evaluate what I'm saying based off the potential limit of the game. Just like it's pointless to assume people won't do something, it's pointless to assume people won't have something. Your strategy has to be prepared for the worst(and best) scenario.

Oh right, the BG rewards that give 5% atk. Speaking of small attack boosts, I remember kaleb was so crazy that he would go as far as swapping in porcellio at the perfect moment just to get 25 more ATK for his hits. That guy was seriously nuts and watching him play was a spectacle.



ggwp

Linked Stalker is dispel-proof so they are best DPS class to kill OLP Proff

Kyo-Kusanagi-aka-GuessWho

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Quote from: ggwp on Nov 13, 2016, 10:56 AM
Linked Stalker is dispel-proof so they are best DPS class to kill OLP Proff
Is this a joke bro? Stalker? What skill do you intend do you use? Backstab, BB?
Sonic Blow or Assasin can kill Profs better.
Ragnarok Online Player since the very Beta. I'm still in love with the game.

Blinzer

Silencing other people is an inhumane action no matter the cause. Is that how little faith you have in other people?

Quote from: ggwp on Nov 13, 2016, 11:06 AM
Linked Stalker is dispel-proof so they are best DPS class to kill OLP Proff

Ah, so that's what it was. Yes, I've passed by that in the code before but I never gave it a priority in my memory since Soul Linkers no longer serve that function in my project.



ggwp

Quote from: Kyo-Kusanagi-aka-GuessWho on Nov 13, 2016, 11:06 AM
Is this a joke bro? Stalker? What skill do you intend do you use? Backstab, BB?
Sonic Blow or Assasin can kill Profs better.

Caster build Stalker. Bonus point for North/First Wind being AoE magic that can be used under LP.