Need help about HW

Sarin · May 12, 2009, 03:35 PM

Depends...crit builds are fun actually. And very effective against some classes.

horo · May 12, 2009, 05:11 PM

If by some classes you mean novices, then yes.

LiteX · May 13, 2009, 03:25 AM

Quote from: Sarin on May 12, 2009, 03:35 PM
Depends...crit builds are fun actually. And very effective against some classes.

I really don't know why you said "Very Effective" when PvP is nowadays pretty much Skill-Use (Characters not player skill) or Ice Picking, Crit is nowadays sparsly used

LeeCroix · May 13, 2009, 05:32 AM

in my server, if u want to pvp u must make party around 5-8 people or else u cant kill anyone because usually they have 1 clown+1 HW+1 paladin so crit sinx cant do anything

anyway, there is HW who hit my HW 7k/hit with sg lvl 10. how can that happen... i get hit while my status is int 99 dex 99

Quote from: Relics on May 12, 2009, 12:29 PM
I forgot to add:

Throw in napalm vulcan, 25% chance to curse at level 5. If they're cursed, you know where they are. Use it to screw them over ie; heavens drive > JT or SG level 1 > JT, something along those lines.

Napalm vulc is fast, low aftercast delay and does 100% damage on undead props as it is ghost ele.

hum... maybe i can test it... if it success i can save my box of sunlight for other =p

LiteX · May 13, 2009, 05:45 AM

Quote from: LeeCroix on May 13, 2009, 05:32 AM
in my server, if u want to pvp u must make party around 5-8 people or else u cant kill anyone because usually they have 1 clown+1 HW+1 paladin so crit sinx cant do anything

anyway, there is HW who hit my HW 7k/hit with sg lvl 10. how can that happen... i get hit while my status is int 99 dex 99

Quote from: Relics on May 12, 2009, 12:29 PM
I forgot to add:

Throw in napalm vulcan, 25% chance to curse at level 5. If they're cursed, you know where they are. Use it to screw them over ie; heavens drive > JT or SG level 1 > JT, something along those lines.

Napalm vulc is fast, low aftercast delay and does 100% damage on undead props as it is ghost ele.
hum... maybe i can test it... if it success i can save my box of sunlight for other =p

Eh, INT 99 and DEX 99, I'd say he is pretty much using a heck lot of MATK stuff, even though, only time I got something THAT high was on the test server with a legit 99/70 Build, And it was doing about 9k/Hit on a necromencer(No reductions or anything), I think he has a heck lot of INT and Amp'ed, it could be that he got Battle Chant'ed

fluidin · May 13, 2009, 05:48 AM

Because your 99 INT will only add soft MDEF, which is freaking useless in reducing Magic attacks. Wear equips that add MDEF, and THEN you will see a difference.

Also, if they don't have GTB, 1 Prof is enough to rape that Clown+HW+Paladin team. Maybe not kill them, but they're screwed for sure.

@LiteX: That kind of damage is possible w/o BC, I've witnessed it myself. The EQs needed to do that kind of damage aren't a joke though. +10 INT food included.

LiteX · May 13, 2009, 05:52 AM

Quote from: fluidin on May 13, 2009, 05:48 AM
Because your 99 INT will only add soft MDEF, which is freaking useless in reducing Magic attacks. Wear equips that add MDEF, and THEN you will see a difference.

Also, if they don't have GTB, 1 Prof is enough to rape that Clown+HW+Paladin team. Maybe not kill them, but they're screwed for sure.

Chances of getting MvP Cards in that server is low a heck, and soft MDEF isn't useless when comboing with elemental reductions and hard MDEF, anyway, a MDEF guide can be found here if you are interested:

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http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/guides-b/mdef-guide/0/

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LeeCroix · May 13, 2009, 06:01 AM

my friend say that HW use +9 lich bone wand with 2 Laurell Weinder Card and full dish which is sell at npc for 700k Z

Quote from: fluidin on May 13, 2009, 05:48 AM
Because your 99 INT will only add soft MDEF, which is freaking useless in reducing Magic attacks. Wear equips that add MDEF, and THEN you will see a difference.

Also, if they don't have GTB, 1 Prof is enough to rape that Clown+HW+Paladin team. Maybe not kill them, but they're screwed for sure.

@LiteX: That kind of damage is possible w/o BC, I've witnessed it myself. The EQs needed to do that kind of damage aren't a joke though. +10 INT food included.

yup... but usually they party around 6 people n that 3 is the must-have-job to win... so basically they will use proff, HW, HP, paladin, clown and creator

fluidin · May 13, 2009, 06:02 AM

Of course I know that soft MDEF isn't useless when combo-ed with other elemental damage reducing EQs..

But just look at what he typed. Bewildered that he has 99 INT yet still taking 7k dmg from SG. Obviously not wearing those and a case of MDEF-knowledge fail.

LeeCroix · May 13, 2009, 06:12 AM

yeah... i dont use any mdef gear... use matk gear so i can kill anyone because i got proff on my side

LiteX · May 13, 2009, 06:15 AM

Quote from: LeeCroix on May 13, 2009, 06:12 AM
yeah... i dont use any mdef gear... use matk gear so i can kill anyone because i got proff on my side

You are pretty much being too dependent, of course, wizards are squishy, but that does not mean you need to go to PvP without anything helping for MDEF, since the drop rates on your server is pretty high I suggest getting some MDEF items I mentioned in my guide,