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Server Discussion / Re: Project Return to Morroc s...
Last post by CVantes - Today at 01:57 PM"Maid Cafe", eh?
Back in 2016-2018 I used to play Tree of Savior for a few years. Our server had a Maid Cafe guild.
Tree of Savior for those who don't know is a game that garnished the title the "real sequel to Ragnarok Online".
Now I know Maid Cafe isn't an uncommon name for a guild in these weeb circles. However I'll say that the guild in that particular server was from 4chan of all places. The way OP describes their actions is exactly the MO these guys had on the server, even for "small people". I was in their guild for a brief while, mostly to gather information and pass it on. Didn't even take them long to oust me as a rat and then the doxxing / threat attempts began.
Long shot obviously but that guild name fits with my past experiences.
Either way never join guilds that use 4chan. This includes p2w, as Reborn has admitted he posts on the Ragnarok Online general, even today. Despite everyone there seemingly hating him too.
Back in 2016-2018 I used to play Tree of Savior for a few years. Our server had a Maid Cafe guild.
Tree of Savior for those who don't know is a game that garnished the title the "real sequel to Ragnarok Online".
Now I know Maid Cafe isn't an uncommon name for a guild in these weeb circles. However I'll say that the guild in that particular server was from 4chan of all places. The way OP describes their actions is exactly the MO these guys had on the server, even for "small people". I was in their guild for a brief while, mostly to gather information and pass it on. Didn't even take them long to oust me as a rat and then the doxxing / threat attempts began.
Long shot obviously but that guild name fits with my past experiences.
Either way never join guilds that use 4chan. This includes p2w, as Reborn has admitted he posts on the Ragnarok Online general, even today. Despite everyone there seemingly hating him too.
#2
Server Reviews / Re: Midgard Tales: Wasted Pote...
Last post by ednis - Today at 12:13 PMQuote from: Metan on Today at 08:45 AMNot sure why you think removing autoloot would kill botters... anyone who's ever played iRO for at least 5 minutes will disagree with you, lul. That would just make real players feel miserable.
I don't think the server has a bot that picks up loot after killing the monster, that is as far as I am aware. The macro farmers just go auto loot, fly wing, skill, fly wing, skill - 90% of the maps that drop upgrade and refine materials have macro farmers and all are archmages. Yet again the decision to kill @autoloot is not for me to decide, if they want manual grinding and farming there are alternatives such as greed enchanting on costumes and it does already exist in the server.
I don't see magic types having a disadvantage on MVP hunting. Last bloody branch event held by the GM, almost 60% of the MVPs were killed by an archmage that can spam multiple skills. Not just that, even on tier 3~5 MVPs, AM does a decent amount of damage due to their AOE skills that greatly reduce the spawn of minions of each MVP, With the right gears, they can be tanky without risking the overall damage since it is just 1 dmg per hit. - Hope this clarifies the MVP
#3
Server Discussion / Re: Project Return to Morroc s...
Last post by 2k2 - Today at 11:07 AMQuote from: Saika911 on Today at 07:34 AMIndeed. I have a hard time understanding how the same people keep galloping to every new server (low rates ffs) after they lose their progress again and again, without even a week's delay. Would have to assume 80% of them are only there for RMT.Seems to be the case yes. 2 servers launched this last weekend where I had to warn the server admins about some of the groups playing it, as one was Loki/Rebelo's group of RMTers (they hop from server to server, play the first few weeks, makes a lot of zeny, RMT and quit. They're some of the players in the discord dm screenshots I exposed in the ML thread) and the other group in the other server are the ones who exploited on ML the Dragon immunity and made the mocking video.
Glad I don't take part in all this knowing both those servers are gonna die within a few weeks to a couple months with such players being there.
As for doing it on low rate servers, these groups are brazillian and this is something brazillians seems to love doing. They're all about the early struggle of progressing with limited characters/gears and obviously for the high value and high demand of first drops in a fresh server. Nauseating.
#4
Server Reviews / Re: Midgard Tales: Wasted Pote...
Last post by Metan - Today at 08:45 AMI won't comment much on the MVP/FW changes because I'm not a player, so I can only offer some early perceptions of it (MVP changes shouldn't hinder magic classes all that much due to multi-hits, and restricted FWs might actually be a good change for gameplay, overall). But what I wanted to comment on is this:
Quote from: ednis on Today at 06:39 AMLastly, if I am given a chance to battle macro farmers, I would kill @autoloot and bring back infinite fly wings or put the fly wings back to the NPC, this would make it harder for manual players but for sure it will kill macro farmers as it will not be beneficial to macro farm if you cannot loot anything without this command. -- This is just my opinionNot sure why you think removing autoloot would kill botters... anyone who's ever played iRO for at least 5 minutes will disagree with you, lul. That would just make real players feel miserable.I bet people will outraged if this happens.
#5
Server Discussion / Re: What happened to ClashRO?
Last post by yC - Today at 08:10 AMJust checked their website, "account suspended" so they abandoned the ship didn't pay for the hosting at least. It was a nice website, too bad only used for 3 months.
In this case, we will go ahead and delist them.
In this case, we will go ahead and delist them.
#6
Server Discussion / Re: Project Return to Morroc s...
Last post by Saika911 - Today at 07:34 AMQuote from: 2k2 on Today at 07:15 AMYup. I remember vividly when and how the MMO community turned to sh*t.
Been off of RO for a while now exactly because I refuse to be around said pigs or feed servers/give a chance to admins that are okay with toxicity running rampant on their servers, becoming a sh*t house.
Indeed. I have a hard time understanding how the same people keep galloping to every new server (low rates ffs) after they lose their progress again and again, without even a week's delay. Would have to assume 80% of them are only there for RMT.
#7
Server Discussion / Re: Project Return to Morroc s...
Last post by 2k2 - Today at 07:15 AMQuote from: Xellie on Today at 03:30 AMI've been saying this for a long time. It's seen on many servers over and over. If you play with pigs expect to get mud on you.Yup. I remember vividly when and how the MMO community turned to sh*t.
Been off of RO for a while now exactly because I refuse to be around said pigs or feed servers/give a chance to admins that are okay with toxicity running rampant on their servers, becoming a sh*t house.
#8
Server Reviews / Re: Midgard Tales: Wasted Pote...
Last post by ednis - Today at 06:39 AMLONG POST AHEAD, PLEASE READ.
Alright! I didn't realize the forums have a different account than RMS itself so I had to register as a starter. I'm putting my reaction here because first this thread was posted in our guild server discord. I wanted to agree with the outcry above but realized it was too soon to reply to this post.
There were a lot of changes over the past 30 days which favored a lot of players (this is in my opinion) first was the removal of pay to win as they call it, VIP system was removed which I don't see any difference between regular players and VIP donators, tbh, this server has been taking a hit all the time. People suggest changes that they think would be best for the community's interest, however, not all of these suggestions can be made overnight and the developer and the owner would still consider what they think is best for their server.
The person who started this thread probably hated the update not because he is a macro farmer but because he might be frustrated with the changes that make it harder for him to farm. (This is so understandable). Who can think of an RO server with no fly wings available to be purchased, hence an NPC was created that will give a random amount of fly wings between 100~200 pcs every hour. Note, that this fly wing is not stackable, you have to maximize the supplied fly wing before claiming another one.
The changes in MVP hunting made it fun and challenging at the same time. I don't find it negative as I've seen these MVP tier 1 and tier 2 not being killed for as long as I've stayed in the server, only those who have valuable cards are being killed, other than that probably 5% of the MVPs are just being killed on both tiers.
I see the benefit of changing this method because they had to put in some end-game PVP gears toward MVP hunting, killing them is still easy, the GM team also has removed the heal or recovery switch skills of those MVPs that heal. The said item used to be an RNG item that had a 1% chance of getting and would cost $1 (1000 cash points) to get, now you can get this by killing MVPs.
I've been promoting this server on all platforms that I know might benefit the server, I even created guides and streamed for the server for free promotions. The thing is, we tend to react negatively to changes that don't favor us and we fail to see the life ahead as this frustration is putting a wall between understanding and accepting the changes.
I always believed that change is constant, regardless if it benefits us players or not. The basic rule in all private servers is if you don't like it here, then leave.
Now, if you look at the bigger picture as to how the server is battling macro and AFK farmers, I find it really good, the number of online players has not changed, probably reduced by those macro farmers but you will see different classes farming now and to make sure that it will not affect the manual players, item drops were doubled. Note: The item itself is doubled and not just the drop rate in all materials across all maps. Rates of other items were increased to in maps that don't drop double items. This benefits all manual players. Yes, it might be probably hard without teleporting from one area to another but again, you can use the free fly wings supplied.
I am not negating the TS, it is his opinion and how he sees it but I just want to share some positive insights that in my opinion, it humbly serves more players than a single player that can macro 3 characters at the same time. Ragnarok low-mid rate server is supposed to be a server that you will grind on, the sense of doing macro farming is a lazy thing to do hence it destroys the economy of a server as items become oversupplied and lowballers sell at a very low price to monetize on those farmed items causing deflation. I still think it is leading us to a more positive economy and for as long as the community keeps up then I would still rock on this server until it closes.
The behavior of allowing macro farmers to begin with was the fault of the GM team, at first, it was beneficial but when 80% of the population is already macro farming it tends to lead the server to its downfall, if you truly understand the battle for macro farm is useless, you should look at market prices right now.
It might have been a negative update to others, but positive to some, we really cannot say since the majority of the community is not speaking up, but by the looks of it, almost every map has different classes (based on the screenshots shared in the discord channel) it's fun to see more active players.
Lastly, if I am given a chance to battle macro farmers, I would kill @autoloot and bring back infinite fly wings or put the fly wings back to the NPC, this would make it harder for manual players but for sure it will kill macro farmers as it will not be beneficial to macro farm if you cannot loot anything without this command. -- This is just my opinion I bet people will outraged if this happens.
Alright! I didn't realize the forums have a different account than RMS itself so I had to register as a starter. I'm putting my reaction here because first this thread was posted in our guild server discord. I wanted to agree with the outcry above but realized it was too soon to reply to this post.
There were a lot of changes over the past 30 days which favored a lot of players (this is in my opinion) first was the removal of pay to win as they call it, VIP system was removed which I don't see any difference between regular players and VIP donators, tbh, this server has been taking a hit all the time. People suggest changes that they think would be best for the community's interest, however, not all of these suggestions can be made overnight and the developer and the owner would still consider what they think is best for their server.
The person who started this thread probably hated the update not because he is a macro farmer but because he might be frustrated with the changes that make it harder for him to farm. (This is so understandable). Who can think of an RO server with no fly wings available to be purchased, hence an NPC was created that will give a random amount of fly wings between 100~200 pcs every hour. Note, that this fly wing is not stackable, you have to maximize the supplied fly wing before claiming another one.
The changes in MVP hunting made it fun and challenging at the same time. I don't find it negative as I've seen these MVP tier 1 and tier 2 not being killed for as long as I've stayed in the server, only those who have valuable cards are being killed, other than that probably 5% of the MVPs are just being killed on both tiers.
I see the benefit of changing this method because they had to put in some end-game PVP gears toward MVP hunting, killing them is still easy, the GM team also has removed the heal or recovery switch skills of those MVPs that heal. The said item used to be an RNG item that had a 1% chance of getting and would cost $1 (1000 cash points) to get, now you can get this by killing MVPs.
I've been promoting this server on all platforms that I know might benefit the server, I even created guides and streamed for the server for free promotions. The thing is, we tend to react negatively to changes that don't favor us and we fail to see the life ahead as this frustration is putting a wall between understanding and accepting the changes.
I always believed that change is constant, regardless if it benefits us players or not. The basic rule in all private servers is if you don't like it here, then leave.
Now, if you look at the bigger picture as to how the server is battling macro and AFK farmers, I find it really good, the number of online players has not changed, probably reduced by those macro farmers but you will see different classes farming now and to make sure that it will not affect the manual players, item drops were doubled. Note: The item itself is doubled and not just the drop rate in all materials across all maps. Rates of other items were increased to in maps that don't drop double items. This benefits all manual players. Yes, it might be probably hard without teleporting from one area to another but again, you can use the free fly wings supplied.
I am not negating the TS, it is his opinion and how he sees it but I just want to share some positive insights that in my opinion, it humbly serves more players than a single player that can macro 3 characters at the same time. Ragnarok low-mid rate server is supposed to be a server that you will grind on, the sense of doing macro farming is a lazy thing to do hence it destroys the economy of a server as items become oversupplied and lowballers sell at a very low price to monetize on those farmed items causing deflation. I still think it is leading us to a more positive economy and for as long as the community keeps up then I would still rock on this server until it closes.
The behavior of allowing macro farmers to begin with was the fault of the GM team, at first, it was beneficial but when 80% of the population is already macro farming it tends to lead the server to its downfall, if you truly understand the battle for macro farm is useless, you should look at market prices right now.
It might have been a negative update to others, but positive to some, we really cannot say since the majority of the community is not speaking up, but by the looks of it, almost every map has different classes (based on the screenshots shared in the discord channel) it's fun to see more active players.
Lastly, if I am given a chance to battle macro farmers, I would kill @autoloot and bring back infinite fly wings or put the fly wings back to the NPC, this would make it harder for manual players but for sure it will kill macro farmers as it will not be beneficial to macro farm if you cannot loot anything without this command. -- This is just my opinion
I bet people will outraged if this happens. #9
Server Discussion / Re: Project Return to Morroc s...
Last post by Xellie - Today at 03:30 AMQuote from: 2k2 on Yesterday at 03:26 PMNot just RO, but the entire MMO community as a whole became extremely elitist, toxic and turned to sh*t around 13~15 years ago. While we're all faulty for this, server owners/admins are primarily the ones responsible for all this sh*t to the community for not doing anything against it/allowing repeated-offenders or known toxic, doxxing, rmting or criminal groups to freely plaguey any server they want. Play with fire and you may (YOU WILL) end up burned.
I've been saying this for a long time. It's seen on many servers over and over. If you play with pigs expect to get mud on you.
#10
Long Lost Friends / Re: (PRM) Leeves! Mullci! Mell...
Last post by chimaeragryph - Today at 12:33 AMQuote from: yC on Yesterday at 10:25 PMFake ip / disposable email address is not allowed here. immaplaceholdername has been suspended for this reason. Contact him or her elsewhere for those who know this person.
Why don't you guys / girls just open a discord channel for your group if it is so hard to say goodbye?
The person who started this thread doesn't have a discord.
