Paganro Review

Started by din133, Dec 21, 2009, 09:46 PM

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din133

I suggest to all players looking for a server not to play in this server because you will just waste your time. Here are the reasons!
This server sucks when it comes to the GM's they are so childish and use over-authority.
1.)They Join the Game as a player and RULES the world with goditems! you stand no chance in pvp or WOE
2.)They OVER USE authority even with a simple complaint-They will BAN you
3.)They create events which they also WIN the event with a price of +10GODITEMS
4.)They are HAVING FUN making people/players look stupid and when you found out you will be banned
5.)They Create EVENT that they know you have no chance of winning
6.)Dont EVER OPPOSE THEM or you will be banned
7.)BOT is forbidden in the server,however the GM can freely BOT
8.)They are HAVING FUN making you stupid,Waste your TIME and MONEY on them
NOW JOIN THIS SERVER FIND HOW MISSERABLE THE GM ARE

Final

As always, Proof or it did not happen.

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Xarale

This doesn't come close to qualifying as a review.  However since you're making claims of GM corruption, I assume you'll have proof to back up all the points you've made.

Moving this to Hall of Shame for now.  You have 24 hours to provide some evidence (screenshots.. etc) of all 8 points you've made, else this is getting junked.

GorthexTiger

Quote from: din133 on Dec 21, 2009, 09:46 PM
1.)They Join the Game as a player and RULES the world with goditems! you stand no chance in pvp or WOE

Ok, corruption, got it.

Quote from: din133 on Dec 21, 2009, 09:46 PM
2.)They OVER USE authority even with a simple complaint-They will BAN you

Ok, so they're like RareRO, check.

Quote from: din133 on Dec 21, 2009, 09:46 PM
3.)They create events which they also WIN the event with a price of +10GODITEMS

Hmm, hard to believe, since by default, they'd have all the god items yes? So why would they need to win the event?

Quote from: din133 on Dec 21, 2009, 09:46 PM
4.)They are HAVING FUN making people/players look stupid and when you found out you will be banned

So they point and laugh when the kid in the wheel chair falls over, theres no LAW against that, its more of an ethics question or how they treat their players.

Quote from: din133 on Dec 21, 2009, 09:46 PM
5.)They Create EVENT that they know you have no chance of winning

If they are already going to win the event, then, the opposite is that you won't win the event.

Hence this is redundant.

Quote from: din133 on Dec 21, 2009, 09:46 PM
6.)Dont EVER OPPOSE THEM or you will be banned

Ok, so agree with everything they say...check.

Quote from: din133 on Dec 21, 2009, 09:46 PM
7.)BOT is forbidden in the server,however the GM can freely BOT

This is where you'd start to leave....

Quote from: din133 on Dec 21, 2009, 09:46 PM
8.)They are HAVING FUN making you stupid,Waste your TIME and MONEY on them
NOW JOIN THIS SERVER FIND HOW MISSERABLE THE GM ARE

I wanna see the proof for this one lolz.
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din133

well ive got no screenshots or whatever since im banned from the game and forums itself, Well this is the only thing that i can say
go to their forums and see the winners of events orb of illusion. Most of it are won by the GM

Gm Ancyker aka Zeddicus Zul Zorander
Gm Axiom aka Validus
also look for the thread which they(Zeddicus Zul Zorander) sell VERYGOOD items with points or money

http://paganro.com/f/

Final

Quote from: din133 on Dec 21, 2009, 11:29 PM
well ive got no screenshots or whatever since im banned from the game and forums itself, Well this is the only thing that i can say
go to their forums and see the winners of events orb of illusion. Most of it are won by the GM

Gm Ancyker aka Zeddicus Zul Zorander
Gm Axiom aka Validus
also look for the thread which they(Zeddicus Zul Zorander) sell VERYGOOD items with points or money

http://paganro.com/f/
I'm afraid no matter what none of us will take your word for it.  How can we be sure that those aren't just standard players?

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din133

then try joining the server and see for yourself. Ive played in that server for morethan 2months and just got banned yesterday because i tried to expose to other players what they are really doing base from what i and my friends have experienced. I didnt put this issue to prevent others from joining that server but instead to warn others

Final

Quote from: din133 on Dec 21, 2009, 11:57 PM
then try joining the server and see for yourself. Ive played in that server for morethan 2months and just got banned yesterday because i tried to expose to other players what they are really doing base from what i and my friends have experienced. I didnt put this issue to prevent others from joining that server but instead to warn others
Well I'm happy that you are trying to help others, You still need to post real proof or else it won't really be believed.  And by us having to actually join the server to see this...well it is just not worth it.  Rofl.  Please screen shot things you see next time, as it will help you a lot in your problems.

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din133

i would be happy to provide screenshots but the things is i got banned before i could do so. So the only thing i can provide is the evidence itself at their forums and nothing more. Believe me or not it doesnt matter as long as ive provided the information that i think that would help others

Final

Quote from: din133 on Dec 22, 2009, 12:11 AM
i would be happy to provide screenshots but the things is i got banned before i could do so. So the only thing i can provide is the evidence itself at their forums and nothing more. Believe me or not it doesnt matter as long as ive provided the information that i think that would help others
It's just an option but why not ask some friends to get the screenshots for you?  And I agree with you on that, You've gotten it out there and now most people who read it will think a little. lol

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Xarale

Quote from: din133 on Dec 21, 2009, 11:29 PM
well ive got no screenshots or whatever since im banned from the game and forums itself, Well this is the only thing that i can say
go to their forums and see the winners of events orb of illusion. Most of it are won by the GM

Gm Ancyker aka Zeddicus Zul Zorander
Gm Axiom aka Validus
also look for the thread which they(Zeddicus Zul Zorander) sell VERYGOOD items with points or money

http://paganro.com/f/
Wait.. GM Ancyker you say?  That's a name I've not heard in a while...  Now that I remember, there was a fairly large thread earlier this year filled with comments about him & the server, pretty much the same things stated in your thread.

Regarding the forum link, I do find it quite odd how Zeddicus happened to win all the best prizes.  Is there anyway you can prove that Zeddicus is actually Ancyker?  That would be a start.

If there's anything other evidence you can provide too, that'd be great.

Pow

Quote from: Xarale on Dec 22, 2009, 01:19 AM
Quote from: din133 on Dec 21, 2009, 11:29 PM
well ive got no screenshots or whatever since im banned from the game and forums itself, Well this is the only thing that i can say
go to their forums and see the winners of events orb of illusion. Most of it are won by the GM

Gm Ancyker aka Zeddicus Zul Zorander
Gm Axiom aka Validus
also look for the thread which they(Zeddicus Zul Zorander) sell VERYGOOD items with points or money

http://paganro.com/f/
Wait.. GM Ancyker you say?  That's a name I've not heard in a while...  Now that I remember, there was a fairly large thread earlier this year filled with comments about him & the server, pretty much the same things stated in your thread.

Regarding the forum link, I do find it quite odd how Zeddicus happened to win all the best prizes.  Is there anyway you can prove that Zeddicus is actually Ancyker?  That would be a start.

If there's anything other evidence you can provide too, that'd be great.

I can prove that for you if you like... I REALLY enjoy stuffing around with Ancyker ;P.  Me and 'Ancy' go waaaaaaaayyy back.

-Pow
Divided we stand, together we fall.
There isn't any god that can save us all
So don't pray on your knees, just beg on your hands
There is no belief in this promised land

Xarale

Quote from: Xarale on Dec 22, 2009, 01:19 AM
Quote from: din133 on Dec 21, 2009, 11:29 PM
well ive got no screenshots or whatever since im banned from the game and forums itself, Well this is the only thing that i can say
go to their forums and see the winners of events orb of illusion. Most of it are won by the GM

Gm Ancyker aka Zeddicus Zul Zorander
Gm Axiom aka Validus
also look for the thread which they(Zeddicus Zul Zorander) sell VERYGOOD items with points or money

http://paganro.com/f/
Wait.. GM Ancyker you say?  That's a name I've not heard in a while...  Now that I remember, there was a fairly large thread earlier this year filled with comments about him & the server, pretty much the same things stated in your thread.

Regarding the forum link, I do find it quite odd how Zeddicus happened to win all the best prizes.  Is there anyway you can prove that Zeddicus is actually Ancyker?  That would be a start.

If there's anything other evidence you can provide too, that'd be great.
Scratch that, I just read the rest of that forum post.  Seems Zeddicus is infact Anc, and it's clearly shown that he just happened to win the most overpowered items.  Judging by the complaints from that same thread, it seems to happen quite often too.

QuoteI can prove that for you if you like... I REALLY enjoy stuffing around with Ancyker ;P.  Me and 'Ancy' go waaaaaaaayyy back.

-Pow
The more I read into this, the more convinced I'm that the OP's post is all true.  "Ancy" seems to have quite a reputation, his name has popped up in various threads over the years on RMS. :<

@OP - Any other evidence you can add to the thread? :o

din133

Yes im convinced that GM Ancyker is Zeddicus Zul Zorander, why? because he is the only person i have pm about my complaint then instantly i got banned, then i got really sure that he is that person take note "i have just complained" and i believe that i didnt use badwords that are harmful enough

Darek Khort

I would have to agree with everything din133 says.
I joined the server just last week, but certain things that have gone on have been constantly nagging me.
Now this will probably get me an immediate ban if the GMs read this, but after the server went down for maintenance today and still hasn't come up (and for the few seconds that it was, I had lost most of my characters) and after coming here on RMS and reading about the corruption in a previous topic dated June 09 and seeing this topic, I've decided I can't stay in such a server.

I unfortunately didn't take much screenshots, but here's what I can say.
1. The GMs do indeed participate in the events and win some of those events. I find that strange, but it is their server I guess.

2. Zeddicus Zul Zorander is indeed Ancyker. He broadcasted many times selling equips a normal player could never get like +10 shoes, +10 guard/etc/etc. The link provided before by din133 should be evidence of this.
Plus, here's a screenshot of one set of equips he has. Impossible for a legit player.
Evidence #01
Notice the +10 Diablos garment. Possible within the period from the server's beginning of June 09 till now? Not likely.

3. The Events are indeed rigged. For instance with the current Winter Chests event, at times the chests are found WAAYYY too fast. Basically one Winter Chest appears at random in one of 6 towns. Once you break it, it randomly goes to any one of the 6 towns and in a random location.
I first felt it weird when they were being found too quickly and took screenshots.
Evidence #02
Evidence #03
Evidence #04
Later on the GMs decided to place extra text giving hints to the location of the map. After much accusations by certain users and after they banned someone called GodHand or similar for complaining they decided to add extra text to show which users were finding the chests. Thus, whoever found the Chest would have their name displayed in broadcast.
I believe this backfired because one person was getting it not only too quick, but too often.
Then the final nail in the coffin for me. When I recounted that two people were banned (one for 1337 days, the other for 7 days), the GM PMed me explaining the reasoning for GodHand (or whoever's) banning and that the two characters belonged to the same person. Later when our guild was talking about how suspicious it was that the one person was finding these Chests so easily and quickly (note we don't have @who3 command on the server/etc) the GM Ancyker decided to teleport each member next to chests 3-4 times in a row. This was a huge shocker for us given this was blatant cheating in an otherwise nice Christmas event.

Unfortunately I have no screenshots to back this claim.

Irregardless, I am now looking for yet another server. I was quite hopeful for this one given how fast I could max level my chars to 99/70. It attracted me a lot because I've been playing RO and private RO servers for so long that I was no longer interested in spending hours leveling up and was more interested in end-game features, events, and more social gameplay.
Guess the server was too good to be true.