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Title: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 03, 2012, 04:59 am
Check out what we DivinityRO members are getting on our e-mails:

Hello Greil, GM Snowy here to bring you the drama llama, I just wanted to bring to everyone’s attention about DivinityRO’s, or to be more specific, Cookie’s issues. I’ve got your attention, eh? Well~ there are a few things I need to say. First of all, I used to think Cookie was a great person and really smart and all that jazz.

When I heard about him being [ corrupt in the past ], I truly believed that he had changed. Boy was I wrong! A few weeks ago, a brand new guild joined DivinityRO and they were so excited to be start playing in this server! Later on, I hear that Cookie starts to item them different MvP Cards & items such as; Ghostring, Bascojin, [ Umbala Spirit ], [ etc ]. Umbala Spirit was like $40, for two days, & its extremely unfair to all of the players who donated because he gave them out for free. So, let me just say this first. Cookie has had a past history where he was corrupt, and he continues to claim he has “changed” and “[ There’s no corruption here, nothing to hide! All that is in the past! ]”.Cookie continues to claim that there have been illegitimate items that were handed out by “past GMs”. Honestly, there is no one I can possibly think of… Rouge, the other Admin, was apparently “too drunk” to even do her job let alone come online and type codes of MvP cards to players. Plus, if she was caught doing that, wouldn’t those items be wiped and she immediately be kicked? Euphemia is his best friend, maybe she did it? But wait, how would we ever know? Euphemia would never! …Except that one time that she dropped a God Item by mistake to the guild leader of High Society with whom she was then having a relationship with, because “she was playing around”. But you know, that was just a mistake and we all know how those mistakes happen.

Also, the logs seem to miraculously erase and “back up” at random times, where only Cookie can access it. More on that later. No matter, 10+ pages are enough to prove corruption. Anyway, back to my main point, Cookie claims these “illegal” items were handed out by another GM, but the only person I can think of who could have done such a thing is Cookie himself. There are so many signs pointing to him, like the leaving/bans of High Society. They were claiming that he sold MvP cards and he got P.O.ed that this information was let out. He admitted to giving them items and playing around when the server first opened, “but I was only messing with them because there were only 30 people online and we were just playing”. You like to play an awful lot, Cookie. So, after some time, he forgot about the items and never deleted them, or just chose to ignore it. There are so many signs of these mistakes and items, just take a look at this [ thread ] and [ screenshot ]. Yes, these items have been removed now and I kept quiet till now as I believed that such things will never happen again. But then a few weeks ago Cookie invites Chyle’s and Cronus’s legit characters to go MvPing with his legit character, which was equipped with god items. After a few Bloody Branches, Chyle gets a Maya Purple Card. Cookie then gives Cronus a +10 Diablo Boots with a FBH card since he didn’t get anything. All commands logs were immediately “backed up” after this and made unavailable for our access. When we learned about this, we addressed Cookie regarding this and were told he was only testing something for MvPs. We told him that it was unacceptable to help legit characters with his god mode items and randomly give items as it would ruin the economy and were promised that such things will never happen again. And then, a few weeks later we learn of the incident where he has been giving items to the new guild. Cookie has been repeatedly throwing promises left and right about not being corrupt and we are tired of believing and falling for it again and again. Cookie is never going stop his habits.Lastly, you have a lvl 99 Admin show up out of nowhere, who is his cousin, [GM] Serah, and she’s so “trustworthy”. She had a past record of GM Impersonation for several GMs (Celtic, CoolCat, Cookie, Euphemia, etc.) but now she’s a GM. Wow! Great screening process. Recently, we were going through command logs and see that there have been weird items that were dropped in massive amounts, they were Mistress Cards. HOLY CRAP! 200+ Mistress Cards were dropped in Lighthalzen. Yes, even if it was for six seconds, isn’t that more than enough? Ridiculous. Proof: [ Picture 1 ] [ Picture 2 ] [ Picture 3 ]I want to personally apologize to Inny for the way Cookie treated you and how he just went and kicked you out just because you were doing a good job and he was done with you. You see, players, Cookie has this weird tendency to throw away staff members whenever he’s tired, done, or too lazy to train them. So, instead of Cookie throwing us away like we’re some piece of trash, we’re going to throw him away. This is our official resignation letter. The following GameMasters have collaborated and agreed that they are leaving this server for good.[GM] Snowy[GM] Xyrin[GM] Ender[GM] Chyle[GM] Cronus[GM] Dan[GM] RainbowThe rest of the staff members are extremely amazing and I have never seen so much devotion and loyalty of staff in my life. From what I’ve seen Deviluke, Seryth, Vanity, CoolCat, Ether, and all of the other GMs are great. They really care about the server, it’s just too bad that the Admin had to go and ruin all of their hard work. He is truly undeserving of these staff members.We’re not trying to make anyone leave but only let them realize the truth behind everything that Cookie does. One thing that we cannot tolerate is corruption. Period. I’m pretty sure that our topics will be deleted and he’ll continue to make excuses for all of this. But before you listen to those, take a moment and look at these details, can you really accept these? Whatever the reason, whatever the excuse is this really fair to the rest of the players? Got some questions, feedbacks, or just want to stay in touch? Feel free to e-mail us at: [email protected] wishes to all of you!

TL;DRCookie is corrupt and will always be corrupt. The staff is leaving. Good luck.Oh! And here is this week’s [ Donation Rotation ].


Edit: Oh, I'm sorry I didn't include the links from before. These are the links to everything that's in brackets. Too lazy to insert them properly, enjoy.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/umbala.png (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/umbala.png)
http://s1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/?action=view&current=light.png (http://s1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/?action=view&current=light.png)
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/hall-of-shame/skinnyboycolinfunsized/ (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/hall-of-shame/skinnyboycolinfunsized/)
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/illegit.png (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/illegit.png)
http://forums.divinityro.com/index.php?/topic/2651-illegit-items/#entry23271 (http://forums.divinityro.com/index.php?/topic/2651-illegit-items/#entry23271)
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac359/isrobertcool/screenDivinityRO067.jpg (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac359/isrobertcool/screenDivinityRO067.jpg)
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic03.png (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic03.png)
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic02.png (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic02.png)
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic01.png (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic01.png)

http://i46.tinypic.com/sxkuba.png (http://i46.tinypic.com/sxkuba.png)

You'd see this in the forums if Cookie wasn't busy erasing anything mentioning any of this.
I'm Greil, the guild leader of Avalanche, we take refuge in Lighthalzen. Long story short, we're pretty friendly people, and we started getting some free items from [GM] Cookie by being nice to him on the Teamspeak. At first it was funny having a GR card in BG as a f*** creator for no reason, but after a while getting free items got extremely boring, it killed my motivation to even touch the game. I didn't launch the client all day until a friend told me someone was calling Avalanche corrupt f*** or something of the sort.

Anyways, we got over $200 USD worth of donation items from the server owner [GM] Cookie, a GR card, a Bacso card and a few other assorted things. Let's see what I can remember.

GR Card
Bacso Card http://i50.tinypic.com/qzrvpv.jpg (http://i50.tinypic.com/qzrvpv.jpg)
5x CKs http://i48.tinypic.com/rwjc5d.png (http://i48.tinypic.com/rwjc5d.png)
$40 Slotted lower headgears (Probably more than like 6?) http://i50.tinypic.com/qzrvpv.jpg (http://i50.tinypic.com/qzrvpv.jpg)
3x +10 D. Boots and D Mants.
3x +10 +3 Dex Sniping Suits
1.5Bil zeny
2x+ RWC 2008 Helm (Another 40 dollar donation item)
2x s. sunnies

Among other things. Anyways, Cookie always said the rules weren't enforced in his server, and that he would ban whoever he wanted to ban. It's his server afterall.
Sorry Cookie, but you're not the biggest troll in the server. In fact, you don't actually know what trolling is.

A guildmate on Cookie's behavior.
"nothing suprises me. he acts like a rich kid who wants to be popular so he gives his toys."

I wasn't going to make a huge fuss about it because goddamn I'm lazy, but it's sad for the players that are still in the server.

So much for never banning anybody. http://i46.tinypic.com/122jjtj.jpg (http://i46.tinypic.com/122jjtj.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Xkakashihatake/1-2.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Xkakashihatake/1-2.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Xkakashihatake/2-2.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Xkakashihatake/2-2.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Xkakashihatake/3-1.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Xkakashihatake/3-1.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Xkakashihatake/4.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Xkakashihatake/4.jpg)

Gotta love always having more content.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 03, 2012, 05:03 am
[ http://forums.divinityro.com/index.php?/topic/3251-regarding-the-recent-events/#entry25969 (http://forums.divinityro.com/index.php?/topic/3251-regarding-the-recent-events/#entry25969) ]

There you go. Yes, we made some mistakes.

Sorry again,
-Cookie
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 03, 2012, 05:06 am
Oh, sorry I can't read that.

http://i49.tinypic.com/oteom1.png (http://i49.tinypic.com/oteom1.png)
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: KevinBryan on Aug 03, 2012, 06:08 am
Mhm I received it too Dx

Glad Cookie took action.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Attax on Aug 03, 2012, 06:08 am
Actually I got these mails too, I don't trust you Cookie. Too much threads about you nowadays.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Nish on Aug 03, 2012, 07:04 am
Looks like cookie is a nice person but is easily influenced by others leading to this kind of thing.

I wouldn't say he's the first admin out there to be influenced by the kindness of others and giving them items so this kind of thing happens.

Atleast he admits to his mistakes but if you dislike corruption then don't play his server.

Probably not a good idea to give out items cookie if you want to keep your server active.

I don't play your server but I hope you learn your lesson.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: scrollLock on Aug 03, 2012, 08:39 am
http://forums.divinityro.com/index.php?/topic/3251-regarding-the-recent-events/#entry25969 (http://forums.divinityro.com/index.php?/topic/3251-regarding-the-recent-events/#entry25969)

1 or 2 mistakes are fine, 2+ mistakes, its not.  /hmm
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: wireless on Aug 03, 2012, 09:04 am
Yeah, everyone makes mistakes but it's not his first "sorry, I screwed up, won't happen again" post   :-X

Doesn't look like it has affected the server's population, though. It's still near its peak.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Alexx on Aug 03, 2012, 09:11 am
thats disgusting.. bye divinityRO
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Kaezar on Aug 03, 2012, 09:49 am
Quote from: Cookie
I had hired my cousin who had started the server with Euphy and I, again. Little did I know, until tonight, she had been doing corrupt things on her Game Master account. Unfortunately, I wasn't aware that she had been using my Game Master account and I am taking full responsibility for those actions.

CLASSIC!

Actually, the $40-Umbala and RWC Helm and the like are enough to raise red flags for me.

I guess the players who are still playing after that revelation by the GM team itself either 1) benefited from it 2) have corruption in their blood as well 3) love the free drama. To each his own!
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Peach on Aug 03, 2012, 10:24 am
You guys are missing some of the links. Lemme help you out with that.

etc (http://s1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/?action=view&current=light.png)

this thread (http://forums.divinityro.com/index.php?/topic/2651-illegit-items/#entry23271) - screenshot (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac359/isrobertcool/screenDivinityRO067.jpg)


Picture 1 (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic03.png) - Picture 2 (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic02.png) - Picture 3 (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic01.png)

Honestly, Cookie. Don't say "We made some mistakes". Don't pin this kind of s*** on the staff you had the was loyal and yet you still felt the need to throw them under the bus, again. This is your mistake. Not theirs. Goddamn, I love the majority of your staff because they are legitly good people, but you are the whole reason that every time someone said you wanted to talk to me about coming back, I said no.

If this isn't proof that this server owner is unable to grow up and learn from past mistakes, I don't know what is.

Edit: Hmm.. What rule did I break Cookie? I'm very curious. O.O (http://i.imgur.com/YRgxc.png)
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Belldandy on Aug 03, 2012, 11:58 am
lol and just yesterday, there was that thread with him screaming I NO IS CORRUPT and flaming / trying to humiliate people who thought so, and now that there's some evidence of some corruption on his part, he's all humble with his sorry.

(http://images.wikia.com/americandad/images/9/96/ButchJohnson.png)

Great thread to wake up to. A good reflection of his personality, based on how immature he was yesterday about the same idea of him being "corrupt." There's a reason he's in HoS, and he's proud of that reason obviously.

Now I will say something positive, because I do see both sides of a coin, no matter how dirty or clean. Cookie is a fantastic developer and very creative with his scripts, ideas, and websites; however, on a customer service / financial level, he's horrible. Someone else should found a server and run that stuff, and Cookie should just be the behind-the-scenes guy without (or with restricted) CP / [email protected] server access to prevent this stuff from happening.

He could be a great team member, but not founder / admin. The sin of greed runs through all of us. Temptation can be bad. The idea is to control it, and Cookie is a bit too impulsive. To combine that with the idea of making a quick buck in a time where jobs, money, etc. are crucial is just asking for trouble.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 03, 2012, 01:20 pm
Someone else should found a server and run that stuff, and Cookie should just be the behind-the-scenes guy without (or with restricted) CP / [email protected] server access to prevent this stuff from happening.

He could be a great team member, but not founder / admin. The sin of greed runs through all of us. Temptation can be bad. The idea is to control it, and Cookie is a bit too impulsive. To combine that with the idea of making a quick buck in a time where jobs, money, etc. are crucial is just asking for trouble.

This is exactly what I was thinking, too.

Also it's hilarious that people think we were sucking up to him for the items. I pretty much called him a faggot 24/7 on the TS and he'd give us items so that we'd like him more.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 03, 2012, 01:27 pm
This is exactly what I was thinking, too.
/??

EDIT: The mistake (as I pointed out) I made was trusting my cousin with my GM account password hence those screenshots. I would never give a player items after all the drama I went through. Kurama/Greil/The Topic Creator was talking to my cousin (awkward) and that's how they got the items. So, let's be honest guys. Mistake I made was ever associating with that and also hiring my own blood. It's a pretty upsetting situation because I've worked to keep DivinityRO as clean as possible - not saying I've been completely innocent.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 03, 2012, 01:43 pm
Haha I love how you threw your cousin at me while playing "matchmaker" and this all happened after we received the bulk of the items. If you check the dates for the things that happened you'd notice all of this. Stop lying and admit you're corrupt. Tell Serah I hope she finds a nice guy, and really, it's pathetic that you're throwing the blame at her. We were on TS with you when you gave us the items.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 03, 2012, 02:11 pm
Haha I love how you threw your cousin at me while playing "matchmaker" and this all happened after we received the bulk of the items. If you check the dates for the things that happened you'd notice all of this. Stop lying and admit you're corrupt. Tell Serah I hope she finds a nice guy, and really, it's pathetic that you're throwing the blame at her. We were on TS with you when you gave us the items.
Nope, I've been working  on the website. I've got the mock-ups and an alibi from Ether proving I haven't been online. I don't know what you're talking about. You just admitted to talking to my cousin.

Thanks! Nice talking to you. That's all I needed admitted because now I have your admittance and the screenshots from Serah admitting to what she did.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 03, 2012, 02:17 pm
Here's the screenshot proving my GM account was compromised and I did not do this.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Attax on Aug 03, 2012, 02:27 pm
Well, I still don't know if this is 100% proof cause everyone can photoshop :| anyway, good luck with your situations. Btw your cousin is cutie /kis
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 03, 2012, 02:49 pm
Well, I still don't know if this is 100% proof cause everyone can photoshop :| anyway, good luck with your situations.
Ask Snowy. She can check the loginlogs. She is the GM who was going to leave but isn't now. I didn't do it. That's the bottom line.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 03, 2012, 02:55 pm
Hahahaha, you're pathetic. I feel really sorry for Serah having to have a cousin like you. Does anyone really think I'd go through the effort of photoshopping this for no reason? You just keep shifting your story around as you go along. Make something up and stick to it. I love how at first you pretended to accept it and say it was a minor mistake, and now you're throwing all of the blame on Serah.

And wait, you mean those logs that you kept deleting to erase your tracks? I imagine those would be hard to check. Next time I'll bring a recorder to TS, it'll be easier that way.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 03, 2012, 03:05 pm
Hahahaha, you're pathetic. I feel really sorry for Serah having to have a cousin like you. Does anyone really think I'd go through the effort of photoshopping this for no reason? You just keep shifting your story around as you go along. Make something up and stick to it. I love how at first you pretended to accept it and say it was a minor mistake, and now you're throwing all of the blame on Serah.

And wait, you mean those logs that you kept deleting to erase your tracks? I imagine those would be hard to check. Next time I'll bring a recorder to TS, it'll be easier that way.
I proved you wrong. Please don't get mad. She admitted to it. I didn't do this. You were close to her and used her to get items from my GM account. Not cool, AT ALL. It was my fault for trusting her.

To everyone, I'm sorry this happened. Again, it wasn't me. I just made the poor choice of letting a cousin have my GM account info. All corrupt items have been cleaned out of the server.

Thank you,
-Cookie
P.S. Proof is posted above where my cousin admitted to the corruption.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 03, 2012, 03:09 pm
Eh, not my problem anymore. If your players feel like playing with a corrupt server owner they can go ahead and do that. Anyone who listens to this man's lying is a fool for doing so. Man up and face the mess that you've made. I'm sure all those other items Snowy listed were created by your cousin, too. Before she returned to the server of course.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 03, 2012, 03:15 pm
Eh, not my problem anymore. If your players feel like playing with a corrupt server owner they can go ahead and do that. Anyone who listens to this man's lying is a fool for doing so. Man up and face the mess that you've made. I'm sure all those other items Snowy listed were created by your cousin, too. Before she returned to the server of course.
Yes, back off now. You got proven a liar with my cousin's admittance of being involved with you (in that screenshot) and giving you the items.

Quit trying to stretch the story. You were mad your guild was really bad in BG and couldn't win in WoE. You were leaving prior to the drama and only talked about doing Ancient WoE because Squirtle Squad would wreck you. You guys played for a week and had a GM make you items. Let's not talk about my character.

Thanks.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 03, 2012, 03:25 pm
Oh, I'm sorry I didn't include the links from before.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/umbala.png (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/umbala.png)
http://s1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/?action=view&current=light.png (http://s1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/?action=view&current=light.png)
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/hall-of-shame/skinnyboycolinfunsized/ (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/hall-of-shame/skinnyboycolinfunsized/)
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/illegit.png (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/illegit.png)
http://forums.divinityro.com/index.php?/topic/2651-illegit-items/#entry23271 (http://forums.divinityro.com/index.php?/topic/2651-illegit-items/#entry23271)
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac359/isrobertcool/screenDivinityRO067.jpg (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac359/isrobertcool/screenDivinityRO067.jpg)
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic03.png (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic03.png)
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic02.png (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic02.png)
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic01.png (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic01.png)

Want more?

Check the date and compare it to the date when GM Serah appeared and be pleased.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: DeuxeVonL on Aug 03, 2012, 03:27 pm
Hi Cawli,

Just one thing, Snowy email says Serah came as a lvl 99 admin out of nowhere, right? Why did you need to give her your GM account? Couldn't she do whatever she wanted, if she was 99 herself?

Quite frankly, I think it's like you say though. It's up to people what they believe. Since I could also manipulate Skype to show what I want people to see.

Good luck with your future ventures.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 03, 2012, 03:27 pm
Hi Cawli,

Just one thing, Snowy email says Serah came as a lvl 99 admin out of nowhere, right? Why did you need to give her your GM account? Couldn't she do whatever she wanted, if she was 99 herself?

Quite frankly, I think it's like you say though. It's up to people what they believe. Since I could also manipulate Skype to show what I want people to see.

Good luck with your future ventures.

Not to mention we see Serah drop Mistress cards on her own account, making her going in your account something completely counterintuitive.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 03, 2012, 03:29 pm
Oh, I'm sorry I didn't include the links from before.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/umbala.png (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/umbala.png)
http://s1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/?action=view&current=light.png (http://s1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/?action=view&current=light.png)
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/hall-of-shame/skinnyboycolinfunsized/ (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/hall-of-shame/skinnyboycolinfunsized/)
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/illegit.png (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/illegit.png)
http://forums.divinityro.com/index.php?/topic/2651-illegit-items/#entry23271 (http://forums.divinityro.com/index.php?/topic/2651-illegit-items/#entry23271)
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac359/isrobertcool/screenDivinityRO067.jpg (http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac359/isrobertcool/screenDivinityRO067.jpg)
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic03.png (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic03.png)
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic02.png (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic02.png)
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic01.png (http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/pic01.png)

Want more?

Check the date and compare it to the date when GM Serah appeared and be pleased.
Those were already removed and from past corruption before we re-opened the server on May 19. We didn't find those until a month later. Don't try to de-rail the thread. You were only on the server for ONE WEEK. The past corruption was from High Society, we've already spoke of this many, many times which is another reason why I wouldn't do what Serah did after just having a case like this happen.

You're right, Deuxe. Much as I'd hate to admit, I made a mistake with letting her have a GM account or my password, for that matter. I shouldn't trust family, I guess.

The Hall of Shame links Greil/outsideheavan is posting is CLEARLY to de-rail this thread with past drama. I'll talk to Triper and request the removal of it. There is already RMS mods who said not to continue to drag old drama into these kinds of threads, Greil. And not only that, I'm proud to be on the HoS for past issues. I own up to it, hence the link in my signature.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 03, 2012, 03:32 pm
I'll stop arguing you because you're just flooding the thread with more lies, but how is that derailing? It's part of the main topic. Goddamnit man, at least check what you're typing before posting. I edited the links to the first post so that they're more easily accessible and I will be uploading the pictures myself in case you try to take them down from that photobucket.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Jenova on Aug 03, 2012, 03:33 pm
"GM dont banned me plz it was my cousin plz she cannot speak english i dont bot plzz"

Does this sound familiar?
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 03, 2012, 03:34 pm
I'll stop arguing you because you're just flooding the thread with more lies, but how is that derailing? It's part of the main topic. Goddamnit man, at least check what you're typing before posting. I edited the links to the first post so that they're more easily accessible and I will be uploading the pictures myself in case you try to take them down from that photobucket.
That's the best news I've heard all day. Stop continuing to milk an issue that isn't true.

Thanks. I'm done posting. I already posted LEGITIMATE proof I wasn't involved in the corruption. AS FAR AS my involvement, I shouldn't have given her a GM account. I'll pay the price with the drama I must clean-up.

Good day to you all.

Cheers,
-Cookie
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Jenova on Aug 03, 2012, 03:39 pm
That's the best news I've heard all day. Stop continuing to milk an issue that isn't true.

Thanks. I'm done posting. I already posted LEGITIMATE proof I wasn't involved in the corruption. AS FAR AS my involvement, I shouldn't have given her a GM account. I'll pay the price with the drama I must clean-up.

Good day to you all.

Cheers,
-Cookie

Definitive proof? Well, looks like I just won the lottery!

(http://i.imgur.com/bNVq0.png)

There really isn't any 'proof' because logs/pictures can easily be forged. It's pretty much your word (which correct me if I'm wrong, but this has been happening for a while) vs. others who seem to be fed up.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 03, 2012, 03:41 pm
Definitive proof? Well, looks like I just won the lottery!

(http://i.imgur.com/cd1hs.png)

There really isn't any 'proof' because logs/pictures can easily be forged. It's pretty much your word (which correct me if I'm wrong, but this has been happening for a while) vs. others who seem to be fed up.
OH MY GOD. Those DivinityRO logs were forged too. And also, the constitution, declaration of independence, the trades between Greil and Serah... EVERYTHING IS FAKE!

FAUXFUR.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 03, 2012, 03:43 pm
Hey, if the logs are fake, post up some real logs. Should be easy.

Also, pretty intense that it's not just me forging stuff but it's Snowy, too. You swear we're super dedicated.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 03, 2012, 03:47 pm
Hey, if the logs are fake, post up some real logs. Should be easy.
Serah says you guys can all message her on Skype for her admittance at corruption using my account. Again, here's the proof.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Jenova on Aug 03, 2012, 03:48 pm
Yeah no kidding? She's your cousin, what makes you think she wouldn't side with you? It's like having a family member defend you in court even if you're in the wrong.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 03, 2012, 03:54 pm
Yeah no kidding? She's your cousin, what makes you think she wouldn't side with you? It's like having a family member defend you in court even if you're in the wrong.

Here is some more food for thought:

Yes, Maki was admitting to the ban I made on his legit. He was corrupt on it. What's the point? See, proof I don't tolerate it.

Good food, tastes yummy.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 03, 2012, 03:57 pm
http://i48.tinypic.com/2a6jith.png (http://i48.tinypic.com/2a6jith.png)

So much for never being in TS with us.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 03, 2012, 04:08 pm
http://i48.tinypic.com/2a6jith.png (http://i48.tinypic.com/2a6jith.png)

So much for never being in TS with us.
wat. I said that in the Shoutbox trolling you, lol. I never said I wasn't in it. XDD
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: DeuxeVonL on Aug 03, 2012, 04:33 pm
This is how it will keep going, unless someone pulls these (IP) logs that Cawli mentioned before:

Some will assume Cookie used Serah GM account, to do his deeds, then have her take the rap for it. This sounds nice due to the fact that since he gave her access to his GM account, and Serah was already 99. So what could she possible do on Cookie account, that she couldn't on hers? (Keep going).
Some will assume Serah was indeed corrupt, and wanted to make Cookie look bad - given his past, it would be an easy feat. Some will dispute it, given the fact it's her cousin.


This should just be done with, nothing more can possible come out for it. Both sides look worn, and Cookie has already pretty much, at least, apologised. If you want to accept it, sure. If not, well, do as someone on the first page did. Leave.

PS: No sides taken, just simply looking in from all windows.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 03, 2012, 04:38 pm
This is how it will keep going, unless someone pulls these (IP) logs that Cawli mentioned before:

Some will assume Cookie used Serah GM account, to do his deeds, then have her take the rap for it. This sounds nice due to the fact that since he gave her access to his GM account, and Serah was already 99. So what could she possible do on Cookie account, that she couldn't on hers? (Keep going).
Some will assume Serah was indeed corrupt, and wanted to make Cookie look bad - given his past, it would be an easy feat. Some will dispute it, given the fact it's her cousin.


This should just be done with, nothing more can possible come out for it. Both sides look worn, and Cookie has already pretty much, at least, apologised. If you want to accept it, sure. If not, well, do as someone on the first page did. Leave.

PS: No sides taken, just simply looking in from all windows.
For my involvement, I apologize.

That's basically up to the viewer of this thread. We'll definitely be making some serious changes though.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 03, 2012, 04:51 pm
The fact that he's not showing real logs is proof enough that the ones we posted are not fakes. It's not the US legal system buddy, you're not innocent until proven guilty.
You're the one withholding evidence, and that's because the evidence incriminates you.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Triper on Aug 03, 2012, 05:44 pm
A simple screenshot of the logs with ips being shown made by Serah into Cookie's account would help a bit in this case[can even pm/msn/whateveryouwanttouse me the full ip version for me to check the veracity of them and post a covered last digits version or ask me to post that if needed].

And that msn thing isn't even the worse, this
(http://i.imgur.com/6D15e.png)
can be done with just photoshop in some minutes[yeah, I know that the fonts aren't 100% the ones used but works as a good example] with that posted pic[as people said and yes, I was 100% bored] so isn't that good the way it was posted so it's here for who wants to believe that it's true.

If he made nothing and what he says it's true then the ips should proof it as Deuxe said.


The pics posted already aren't 100% good either for both sides. Here are some examples:
-> +10 garment[not impossible to make, just insanely hard and I've seen people to do +10 gears quite sometimes in low and mid rates]
-> +3 Str Diabolus Ring with a Zerom where we can't see the +3 Str since there is not a right click on the Diabolus Ring, just a right click on a garment that people know already what it has and is[Noxious Card and is +10] so it's a bit of rant of what is that Diab Ring
-> Traded Umbala Spirit Headgears but there is also some cover story about being traded to players that pm'd the Admin but his cousin also trading them doesn't seem to fit that unless he said to her make that for him so it's a bit meh
-> a Bacsojin card on a low headgear that has a slot originally according rms db. MVP Cards are rare but they drop and the headgears have that cover story so meh again
-> logs with spawns of MVPs and @killermonster2 which can make people think a lot of stuff like MVP Events or MVPs summoned, GM kills and @killermonster2 was used to cover this on logs
-> spawned on the floor 100 mistress cards that can't be caught with Greed so they've to be manual clicked but the fail on this is that there is a @cleanmap 1 sec after that which may look not enough to get but at same time can be since there is at the logs 30 Mayas spawned in 1 second in turns of 10.
-> Post on a topic closed at DivRO Forum where Rayquaza is on a screenshot saying that sour payed $200 via paypal to Cookie but in the last post, where Cookie says that the thread is now closed and etc, Cookie says that it was not him who made this, was the Corrupted GMs making people think that or was him and he's telling a lie or was a GM impersonating him making this need Paypal accounts to be traced to be 100% sure on both sides

So yeah, in worst of the cases, logs of IPs would help to be sure on at least one thing - There is or not a GM Serah on that server that made some of the mess??
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 03, 2012, 05:48 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/6D15e.png)
OH MY GOD. LOL. /omg New signature.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Triper on Aug 03, 2012, 06:12 pm
OH MY GOD. LOL. /omg New signature.
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The dimensions of your signature must be smaller than 700 pixels (width) x 200 pixels (height).
;o
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 03, 2012, 06:43 pm
;o
Was going to make it a link. XD
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 03, 2012, 07:01 pm
All of these items on players who have been playing for a week or two. Really?

This one's to prepare you a little bit, the owner asked me to not show his name.
http://i46.tinypic.com/sxkuba.png (http://i46.tinypic.com/sxkuba.png)
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Aurae on Aug 03, 2012, 07:57 pm
i think a bit more of the screenshot would be nice since such a small picture could be from any server.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 03, 2012, 08:48 pm
I swear you guys won't be happy until Cookie comes out and says "I gave them all the items they claim I gave them" Just giving us the GR was bad enough, and he admit to that. But everything else is just a nice little bonus. Anyways, enjoy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Xkakashihatake/1-2.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Xkakashihatake/1-2.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Xkakashihatake/2-2.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Xkakashihatake/2-2.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Xkakashihatake/3-1.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Xkakashihatake/3-1.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Xkakashihatake/4.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/Xkakashihatake/4.jpg)
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Aurae on Aug 03, 2012, 08:52 pm
im believing you, the latest screens show evidence but a single item without any background picture could be taken anywhere, dont get me wrong!
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 03, 2012, 09:03 pm
And for when it gets inevitably deleted.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2m2xphk.png)

Quick deleting there. Good work, you're on top of s***.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: xwinter on Aug 03, 2012, 09:26 pm
Yes, this is Snowy:

Thanks for all of the support everyone.
Ask Snowy. She can check the loginlogs. She is the GM who was going to leave but isn't now. I didn't do it. That's the bottom line.
I am completely annoyed by all of these "mistakes" and "false accusations".  Cookie, you seem to be the unluckiest person ever because there's always players talking about how corrupt you are. These are too frequent to be coincidences. People just don't target a person for no reason...

I'm tired of how ungrateful you are of the staff. They are great people, PEOPLE, not slaves. You do not pay us to work for you. Do you understand that?

Btw, you need to redefine what drama means. Explaining a situation and hyping up one is two different things.
Anyway, good luck with the server.

P.S. RAGNAROK ONLINE IS A GAME. Ffs. (Dunno how to screenshot my phone)
(click to show/hide)

P.S.S. I love how you didn't know anything that Serah was doing but you're so quick to find things going against you in the forums.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Jenova on Aug 03, 2012, 11:17 pm
Prime example of how not to run a server here, folks!

It's really upsetting that Cookie tries so hard to deny things that he blatantly did. There comes a point when it just become really obvious.

The five-six threads complaining about DivinityRO should hopefully clue Cookie in.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Belldandy on Aug 03, 2012, 11:58 pm
OMG SNOWY I MISSED YOU Q_Q LOVE ME AGAIN!!!

and about that image, lols @ so Photoshoppable. Not saying it is. But if you share passwords with Serah, then who says you don't have her Skype password to refute all claims, etc. (and type the provided image)

And as someone else said earlier, it's like a court situation. Kin defends kin, regardless of what's blatantly right or wrong. That's how it works generally.

Not proof to support your innocence, especially not in the face of Snowy, heaven's content, and your past. It all works against you unfortunately.

And although I understand that anything can be forged, even evidence against you i.e. logs, trades, etc. that's still a petty way to go around it. All I imagine when I think of Cookie arguing, no matter how hypocritically professional, is an immature young adult going HARHARHAR I COVER UP MY FAULTS BY REDIRECTING THE ATTENTION TO SERAH AND SPITTING ON OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS / CLAIMS IN TEH TOPIX.

It's kinda sad.

No harm intended. Just how I see it atm. One side's giving supporting evidence for their claims and considerable feedback / support / Staff member recognition, while HoS Cookie merely has words and a pathetically easy image to Photoshop / something he can probably access via password sharing, as evidence for his side. It's like throwing a stone at a tank and praying it'll blow up. Meh.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: MjaoZor on Aug 04, 2012, 12:22 am
And yet people ask why we old players never went back to Cookie after losing the trust the first time. Why would people even waste thier time you can't cure corrupted GM's its like inviting a famous murderer for a cup of tea. Hell no he wont kill us he good now <3
I still feel cheated somehow even though I didnt even try this server of his I had enough of his old server you try and try and try. Then you give up and move on.
[removed unnecessary moving gif image]


Waits for Cookies come back to see if he still blames everything on his cousin(and everyone else) and photoshop
[removed unnecessary moving gif image]
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Chyle on Aug 04, 2012, 03:10 am
But then a few weeks ago Cookie invites Chyle’s and Cronus’s legit characters to go MvPing with his legit character, which was equipped with god items. After a few Bloody Branches, Chyle gets a Maya Purple Card. Cookie then gives Cronus a +10 Diablo Boots with a FBH card since he didn’t get anything.

Wanted to contribute too. :(

FBH:
(http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p486/greenchalam/screenDivinityRO110.jpg)

Maya:
(http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p486/greenchalam/screenDivinityRO113.jpg)

He had invited me, Cronus and Dan to go mvping with his and Euphemia's legits because apparently they were bored. When we'd killed a Maya he started laughing and acting shocked and giddy on ts saying something like "Holy s***. I just got a Maya Card. What are the chances?" He makes the four of us, including Euphemia, roll a dice and gives me the Maya Card saying the number I rolled was what he'd had in mind. I actually believed he got the card legitimately. He's a pretty good voice actor. He almost got Snowy to stay by "crying" on ts. I went off to go do homework, while they were killing Bee and when I came back Cronus showed me the +10 FBH Diab Boots he got from Cookie.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Triper on Aug 04, 2012, 08:00 am
Flames cleaned, if you've nothing to contribute to the topic, take it to PMs.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: JermZ on Aug 06, 2012, 09:36 am
It's ironic how the accused can only defend himself with a screenshot of a skype conversation that may or may not have happened.

[GM]Serah or whats-her-face is known for massive corruption, and [GM]Cookie is telling the readers to believe what [GM]Serah has to say on Skype?

It's funny asking to trust someone that is already corrupted, isn't it?

While picture paints a thousand words, seems like [GM]Cookie is running out of real/fake screenshots that makes a valid argument while the pictures presented in the topic by those who want to burst the bubble of the accused already did most of the talking.

Web of lies, over the net. /Facepalm
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Danimi on Aug 07, 2012, 11:54 am
I guess it's time to express my deepest opinions as I haven't let the community know since I left. I couldn't hold back and just watch the drama while eating popcorn because I was one of the historic rebellion. These opinions are only entitled to myself. I will just behalf the other GMs when necessary.

Recently I couldn't resist my curiosity of the aftermath of our resignation, so I checked the forum, and this is one of the searches I found (titled The Fallen Snowy):

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e59/bechhey/lies.png)

Nice going there. So you spilled another set of beans that, still, contain unreasonable and false witnesses. Let me start individually each paragraph.

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I didn't hire most of them. Snowy hired them mostly. I hired Snowy. Either way, I wasn't happy with the team altogether. They were too much of friends (where it felt like a club) and it was a little irritating. This isn't a club of friends, it's a team of people working together. Xyrin shouldn't have ever been hired. Not only was he rude and overly judgmental, he was also very controlling of Snowy. By having two managers that are dating, things didn't always fully function as planned. Regarding Dan, Chyle and Cronus... enough said. They were spamming links in-game, on the forums and I find it funny that Chyle and Cronus were "too busy IRL" to GM for the last month and a half. HOWEVER, they find time to tear the server down.

We consider ourselves a family, as we think very alike, and have managerial connections by the hierarchy. It's not a coincidence that the staff approaches so friendly to co-staff because it is a normal and natural occurrence. Even you have friends. Even government employees have friends. So, about Chyle, Cronus, and I. They were not part of the mass forum posting. We didn't even paste links in-game, we were just chilling in main, but then you just banned us like we did something. I'm fine to be banned, yes I deserve it. But do they? No.

I also find it a coincidence that Chyle and Cronus were too busy irl and they had time to defame the server. Well then, what about you. Is it also a coincidence that you are too busy with development but you still find time to do player affairs, chat with them like feeling close, listen to what they beg for gears, items, and zeny, and immediately doing it without notice?

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Deviluke was awesome, dedicated and reliable. Seryth and Vanity were more trouble than helpful especially Seryth's oversaturated event prizes and unprofessional disguise espionage in-game. In the last month, all Snowy has done is do headgear rotation. Picking up her position and work isn't a problem for the best Administrators I've ever had, CoolCat and Euphemia. They are truly responsible for the majority of PR work. Snowy is another Inny without the rude behavior to players but she is also a hypocrite because she got on Peach when Peach left the server making a dramatic topic.

You must've understood that Seryth and Vanity were still Event GMs in trial that time. Of course faulty performances are normal for them since they recently transferred to Events Department.

So now you're comparing and contrasting Snowy to "the best Administrators you've ever had"? Look behind the past. Snowy does player relations (recovering items from data loss), staff relations (training and educating subordinate staff, counseling co-staff, head supervisor to subordinate staffs), hosting in-game and forum events, acting as support staff, referrals, player/guild packages, bi-weekly announcements, etc. She deserves to be part of the administration. What about Euphemia? Referrals, player packages, socializing with players...? She does not deserve administration. Don't be mistaken that Snowy and Inny would still be one of the greatest administrators you had, far from Euphemia.

Being compared hurts right? Same as how you treated us like garbage. It hurts me so bad that you terminated Kira, my very first manager. In my first week of GMing, he already feedbacked me words of praise and wisdom. You didn't even care to send me feedbacks unless when Kira did, you did also. I like him until now because the essence of his praise is one of the best things a subordinate GM can get as a sign of respect and appreciation.

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Stop talking about these ex-staff. I will continue to lock all topics regarding it. Move on, they're history and that's the best thing that could happen for Divinity.

No more topics, posts or anything about this unless you really want to see me silence you.

This is the statement I am majorly against with. If the government of the American Democratic Republic have internal issues, the people have the right to know. Same as this democratic server. The players have the right to know what is going on within the staff. It's really like you are hiding something from the players. There are reasons why we study History in our academics. We study them because they are the past who made us what the world is present. The past of Divinity is what made Divinity into it's present.

Why are you hiding those issues? You're not a democratic administrator at all. If you really care for the players, why not let them know? It's their right anyways.

I'll have this as my personal message to you, Cookie.
I care so much for Divinity. I care so much for the players to the point that I joined the plot against you and make a rebellion 1) to let the people know the truth of your witchcrafteries and 2) to make you realize of your transgressions so that you will hopefully CHANGE. It's really doubtful in my part if you'd ever change for the better, but I hope God of the celestial bodies will strike you a hammer of change. It was in an unprofessional manner that we rage quit because I couldn't hold back my anger that you still keep on doing the same thing over and over again, but I didn't regret doing it because the greater impact of the drama, the greater the significance of learning your lesson also.

I'd like CoolCat to read this. I'm very sorry from the depths of my heart that I did this. I know you are pretty disappointed to me because of what I did. I truly appreciate the time given to us for our friendship. I wish for you the best of luck on running the server. I also hope that you learned a great lesson from the inter-experiences that happened around. God speed!

Many servers have been shut down because of corruption stuff. I care for Divinity that I don't wanna know it shutting down. However, I won't care about you, Cookie, anymore since what you keep on doing is too mainstream. All I can finally say is, best wishes in running the server with the rest of the administration and staff. It was truly a worthy time of GMing in Divinity and a worthy time of rage quitting.

Regards,

Dan
Your fired Team Leader of Enforcement.

Edit: I don't want you to think that even if I'm underage at 17 like how you belittled me of having the position of Enforcement Management. I made this f*** wall of text.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: xwinter on Aug 07, 2012, 02:25 pm
From Snowy to Cookie:
Warning, Wall of Text.
I honestly wasn't going to reply to this thread anymore because it's no point in wasting time, breath, my finger movements but I can't hold it back either.
First off, headgear rotation is MY idea, you should not using any of the ex-staff's stuff without their consent.
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I didn't hire most of them. Snowy hired them mostly. I hired Snowy. Either way, I wasn't happy with the team altogether. They were too much of friends (where it felt like a club) and it was a little irritating. This isn't a club of friends, it's a team of people working together.
Yes, I did hire them. I hired Seryth, Vanity, Ender, Xyrin, Deviluke, (partially) Chyle, and Cronus. Dan, you hired on your own. Chyle and Cronus we did it together. But I noticed that you never actually say "we", as in team, you always say "I" and "Me". You claimed you "needed staff" because you were "doing everything" yourself. Then I went and look for staff. They were great staff too. Not someone who you hired, on the second day, spawned monsters to level up his legit. I don't know about you, but this is a game. You're supposed to have fun, this is a free job. We volunteered. Of course, we talked to each other like we're family. We had fun working with each other. At least we weren't going at each others throats and causing in-staff "drama". Is that what you wanted? Jesus, make up your mind.
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Xyrin shouldn't have ever been hired. Not only was he rude and overly judgmental, he was also very controlling of Snowy
Again, you claimed you needed staff so badly. I went through all of the documentation and Inny was the one who made the decision of hiring.
Honestly, I wasn't going to reply at all until I saw this. This completely makes my blood boil.

How. f***. DARE. You. Talk about my relationship as if you know a damn thing? Just because Euphemia friendzoned you so bad and you turned gay, doesn't mean you should take a stab at my relationship. When has Xyrin ever been rude or overly judgemental? And who the f*** gave you a right to butt into my relationship let alone have any words come out of your filthy lying mouth about it? I am on Skype with Xyrin 24/7. Literally. What we do is none of your business, and what I hate most is you don't even know what you're talking about, you're just making up more lies and false accusations.

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By having two managers that are dating, things didn't always fully function as planned.
I think you're forgetting someone. Gojiro and Deviluke were a couple. They seemed to be working just fine.

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Deviluke was awesome, dedicated and reliable. Seryth and Vanity were more trouble than helpful especially Seryth's oversaturated event prizes and unprofessional disguise espionage in-game.
Seryth made one mistake. You've made several, like giving out illegitimate items. He spawned Angeling, Deviling, and Porings for an invasion event (while it was a stupid idea) that was an error on OUR part for leaving that command there.

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In the last month, all Snowy has done is do headgear rotation. Picking up her position and work isn't a problem for the best Administrators I've ever had, CoolCat and Euphemia.
Once a see corruption in a server, it completely turns me off to work my hardest to help out.  If someone took all of your hard work and threw it at your face, you would probably stop working for them too. Yes, CoolCat is definitely a great Admin, far more than you will or ever deserve. Euphemia, great girl and you're very sweet, however, I don't think Administration is a right position for you.

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Snowy is another Inny without the rude behavior to players but she is also a hypocrite because she got on Peach when Peach left the server making a dramatic topic.
It's a difference, when you're making topics to cover yourself. Because you tend to twist words and construe them in a sick way to benefit yourself and make you sound like the victim. Everyone continued to ask, what was happening to the staff? So we answered and we all know how you love to delete things. So we might as well post it several times so players can see it. That's not dramatic at all. That's an explanation. Seriously, you need a dictionary.

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I'm glad for the "coup" and the overall decision Snowy made. She showed her true colors.
My true colors are still the same, while yours is still black.

You seriously need to seek some medical attention because you're a delusional and compulsive liar.
I gave you all of my facts, along with proof, and back up. You've given me a screenshot of your cousin, WHOM YOU GAVE YOUR PASSWORD TO, saying that she was sorry that she did all that stuff on your account. Seriously, if you're going to make an argument, make a better one.
By the way, I didn't "solicitate strikes", this isn't Occupy Us - Wall Street. Ffs. I simply said that I'm leaving because I can't take this and whoever wanted to come, they came with me.

Anyway, I'm done saying all I've had to say about this situation. Back to League of Legends, YEAH DIANA!
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Peach on Aug 07, 2012, 04:22 pm
Oh, heeeeeell no, Cookie. You do not bring my name into this to try to save your own skin and insult Snowy while you're at it. You already used me once to bash on Inny, so unbelievably childish.

If Snowy was insulted and unhappy with the way that I left the server, and at the same time insulted the administration because, at the time, it seemed to me that everyone was in on Cookie's corruption, that is completely fine with me. I get it. I have reacted in a similar way when my current staff has gotten accused of corruption. It is also a reaction that Cookie seems to have every single time someone calls him out on doing stupid s*** to mess up his own server "OMG GUYS I'M NOT CORRUPT, LOOK HERE'S PHOTOSHOP'D EVIDENCE, LULZ I WIN." Read: except Cookie never acts rationally because he has no moral compass and always thinks he's right.

Honestly, stop throwing Inny under the bus more times than necessary. He was an amazing Admin, albeit not the best with certain players, but I still think he did a good job with staff. I never saw him being rude in TeamSpeak, he was always very approachable when I first started and he was always available. Compared to Cookie, during my time working there, was nowhere to be seen.

Cookie also really can't talk about the hiring process for staff. I find it incredibly ironic that all he would do in TeamSpeak while I saw him was calling AeliciaJean names. Whore, ugly, stupid, b****, etc. And then hired her for Divinity 2.0 and became all buddy-buddy.

Moral of this story: Cookie is two-faced. He's nice to you as long as he has a use for you and throws you under the bus the second you try to confront him when he starts being corrupt all over again. (Then again, it never really stops.)

edit: Also, Snowy is amazing and Divinity is losing out on a fantastic Administrator. Despite what I may have said in the past, I do think that she did her job very well and she was very dedicated during the time that I was a part of the staff. Cookie is just bitter because he doesn't like it when anyone disagrees with him on the tiniest things.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 07, 2012, 04:29 pm
Removed.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Peach on Aug 07, 2012, 04:40 pm
Peach: Ok.
; u; Dawh. It's so nice to know that I bother you to the point that you can only answer with two letters and a little dot. <3

Really, with each reply Cookie posts, there's only one thing that he proves. He has no moral compass and he will never change. There have been countless "I'm sorry, it won't happen again" posts and it always ends the same. I think I'm pretty much done posting here after today, because the only way that server will prosper and be at least somewhat cleaned from all of the corruption is when Cookie realizes that it wasn't his staff that was the problem, it was him.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: xwinter on Aug 07, 2012, 04:59 pm
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Moral of this story: Cookie is two-faced. He's nice to you as long as he has a use for you and throws you under the bus the second you try to confront him when he starts being corrupt all over again. (Then again, it never really stops.)

Amen. <3

@Cookie: Sigh.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Saiku on Aug 07, 2012, 05:20 pm
Need a Peach Card for cookie <3

Edit: -legit ban from Cookie for suggesting a card lloololololololol

Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Danimi on Aug 07, 2012, 11:51 pm
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Need a Peach Card for cookie <3

Edit: -legit ban from Cookie for suggesting a card lloololololololol

lool Peach <3
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: y u mad? on Aug 08, 2012, 03:52 am
can someone please tell me why the people from that guild are here calling cookie all these things for giving them items yet they accepted the items?...thats pretty damn hypocritical to me if you ask
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Chyle on Aug 08, 2012, 03:53 am
Lolwat. We never spammed links in-game or on the forums. Someone just said "Any gm on?" in #main and the three of us replied saying "Yes?" then got ip banned. OuO
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Attax on Aug 08, 2012, 06:58 am
Whatever, good luck cookie.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Triper on Aug 08, 2012, 07:10 am
Because being bad and having a listing are two different things.

What happens in the forum is different from what happens on the website so an admin can be super hyper mega ri-bad and everybody knows that and still have a listing at the website because the ToS wasn't broken.

When the ToS is broken, the server will get insta ban from the listing.
If you wish to check the ToS for server owners, that is at the bottom of the website, here is the link (http://ratemyserver.net/TOS_owner.html).
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Danimi on Aug 08, 2012, 09:57 am
Yeah, Cookie. Chyle, Cronus, and myself just responded "Yes?" in #main to someone who asked for online GMs. You told the community that we were spamming links in game. If it's that so, I request you to post a screenie of it because it is injustice in our part. Well?

Edit: I also want the future Manager of Enforcement, future Team Leader of Enforcement, and future Enforcement GMs of Divinity to read this. I gifted you a guide on how to hunt bots before I got fired. Sad thing is, Cookie deleted it, reposted it with his forum name, and never gave me credit. I just want to let you know the truth that he plagiarized my guide without consent. I rather like it deleted. If you may need it, you can approach me, as I have the MS word for it.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Belldandy on Aug 08, 2012, 07:28 pm
Yeah, Cookie. Chyle, Cronus, and myself just responded "Yes?" in #main to someone who asked for online GMs. You told the community that we were spamming links in game. If it's that so, I request you to post a screenie of it because it is injustice in our part. Well?

Edit: I also want the future Manager of Enforcement, future Team Leader of Enforcement, and future Enforcement GMs of Divinity to read this. I gifted you a guide on how to hunt bots before I got fired. Sad thing is, Cookie deleted it, reposted it with his forum name, and never gave me credit. I just want to let you know the truth that he plagiarized my guide without consent. I rather like it deleted. If you may need it, you can approach me, as I have the MS word for it.

I made the same thing for GMs with barely any commands i.e. only @follow, @hide, @ban, @goto... Simple things.

Then Cookie, because I kept banning bots (and he didn't want bots to be banned), went around on a "legit" and acted like a bot (same monster in Toy Factory (popular spot), bot movement pattern, ignoring PMs) and said the guide was no good. Well, normal players would respond to a GM / wouldn't behave that way, especially with a ban threat, so as long as people aren't trying 100% to be bots - as Cookie did only to disprove the methods - then it's fine. But as soon as people start acting like bots on purpose, of course it's going to be faulty.

Basically, you would do a few things.

- Talk to the bot
- Equip Garm Card
- @disguise into the target monster
- See if the person minds being killed / frozen / remains unresponsive
- See if they change target
- Max LUK for Perfect Dodge and AGI for Flee (GM max is >99) and see if the player persistently attacks the monster, regardless missing 99.9% of the time
- Jail and wait for a response / see if the individual logs out
- @kill to see if they respond to dying for no apparent reason
- Ban

Though generally you don't have to go to those extremes, the guide would outline that kind of thing, and Cookie scrapped it because there's a next-to-none chance someone would be banned unfairly - that is to say, only if they tried REALLY REALLY hard to be a fake bot, like Cookie did, would they be "unfairly" banned. In that case, you'd be asking for it anyway lol
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 08, 2012, 08:55 pm
Please keep talking about the server. This is unsolicited advertising and helping us grow. :D

Thank you, thank you so much!
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Belldandy on Aug 08, 2012, 09:24 pm
Please keep talking about the server. This is unsolicited advertising and helping us grow. :D

Thank you, thank you so much!

u funneh, you like the attention on RMS about your corruption, but if it's on your forum, you delete it and act like a facist leader.

Every time you respond to this post, you refuse to support your claims, re-establish any good reputation for yourself, and ultimately show that you're an immature kid with an inflated ego simply because you script well. Well, good for you. Now go use that talent on your server rather than scripting us a play of lies and corruption worse than those in MacBeth.

At least try to help yourself out. It's really pathetic how you treat your players / deliver customer service / portray yourself and the server's values. Sad. If you truly understood marketing and business, you'd know that a company's image is extremely important to retain in a positive light. I guess you think acting like this will overall benefit your server, and it may for now - though there hasn't been a positive influx of anything since this topic - but you'll recognize that error later. Or maybe you already have, and are playing it out. I don't know. Regardless, it's irresponsible on your part to react in the way you are.

imo, one more strike, and you're out; you already had a bad rep', now you've got the reputation of being immature and corrupt. Do what you want to do but players won't take to you if anything similar happens again. Sorry only works so many times :3 <3
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Danimi on Aug 08, 2012, 10:15 pm
Please keep talking about the server. This is unsolicited advertising and helping us grow. :D

Thank you, thank you so much!

This isn't about the server. It's about you.
Stop dragging the name of the server when we're just talking about you.

It's really ironic to know that you thank us here in RMS for leaking bad news, but then you delete threads in your local forum whenever you want.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 09, 2012, 08:01 am
Unsubstantiated evidence and faked screenshots is all I've seen posted here. If things like this bothered the team, they would've quit months ago as each screenshot is from the last few months or when Serah hacked my GM account. Remember, we re-opened almost 2 months ago (May 19) and we admitted to the corruption in January (due to us not feeling like the server would go anywhere and trying to keep HS on the server) and we cleaned it completely out. Why would two months later, while we're successful and making ends meet, bend over backwards for a guild that joined a week ago? Do I have proof besides the proof I posted that she hacked it? No. Do you have proof (without a doubt) definitively, by IP address, showing it was me instead of Serah? No. Just because you say it, everyone, doesn't make it so. Again, it's a scenario for each person to bash the server when they're no longer apart of staff. As an Administrator, there comes a time when we're required to create and delete items for situations such as bug exploitation, donations not crediting items, et cetera. There is also known bugs that allow people to fake trade IDs (view rAthena's latest bugs that were recently fixed). Please provide me a screenshot where I blatantly said that I'd give someone an item and then there's a trade window.

Without the screenshot above, you're falsifying proof and it's all lies. Therefore, good day to you because I know there is no screenshot like that existing in the interwebz as I've never done the following. I'm only admitting to the Ghostring Card to Greil/Original Topic Poster due to extenuating circumstances (already discussed previously) and I clearly admitted that was a mistake.

Again, there is no proof. So now, you can all stop responding to this thread as each claim has been subjectively laid out, whatever proof (whether deemed enough or not) has been posted and now it's turning into a flame thread aimed at my personal character instead. I've yet to make any accusations towards a few of the posters in this thread. I ask that the RMS Moderator team at least remove the harassing commentary, side-bar and Yusifer's rude responses that have nothing to do with this thread but show her morality and character.

Have a nice day.

P.S. Yusifer, I'm done responding to your snide and immature accusations that are personal attacks at best. This was a response to Dan, not Yusifer. You should really look in the mirror because you're the ONE making insults and judgments, not I.

P.S.S. This is the last post that the DivinityRO Administration will make. We've already addressed each claim and properly satisfied our current community of said issues through new features that allow the community to checks & balances on the GM team (coming out within the next maintenance). I appreciate the prosecuting RMS community's commentary on my personality and attitude, but it really has nothing to do with the original thread "DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin". Ironically, the coffin isn't be used through as our server is booming and stronger than before. I appreciate all reviews on the server, as well as, critique and such... we'll definitely learn from this experience.

Thank you, thank you so much everyone,
-Cookie

Solid proof showing screenshots are fake: http://trac.rathena.org/changeset/16499/rathena (http://trac.rathena.org/changeset/16499/rathena)
I wouldn't be "silent" and giving items. lol. That's proof. :) I always AFK'd in Prontera or Lighthalzen in case a player wanted to leave a message. Interestingly enough, that bug surfaced and I was actually wondering about it. All evidence posted (since I wasn't talking or exchanging dialog) is fake.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: yC on Aug 09, 2012, 11:47 am
I'll just ask the technical question here, don't feel like jumping into all the discussion and drama.

About the bug and bug report  http://trac.rathena.org/changeset/16499/rathena, (http://trac.rathena.org/changeset/16499/rathena,) the topic refer to the bug which Deepee reported here http://rathena.org/board/tracker/issue-6320-trading-bugexploit/ (http://rathena.org/board/tracker/issue-6320-trading-bugexploit/)

^ Reading the demonstration it looks like the abuse is used to block view in PvP / MvP / WoE.  As stated by Deepee

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I will first explain how the bug works in text.  If player A requests a deal with player B, player B can choose neither to accept or decline the trade.  After this, player B can then request a deal with player C, in which player B can hit 'Ok' on the request player A sent him.  When player B does this, it will automatically open up a trade box between player B and C, even if player C chose not to click any option.

...

The result is Obstacle automatically being brought into a trade without hitting either 'Ok' or 'Cancel'.

The reason that a bug like this could be abused in the ways that I have mentioned is because of how big the trade box is.  This would cause players to be unable to click areas on a large portion of their map, or be forced to run towards an area which may or may not be beneficial to them in order to kite the monster or player their fighting while they hit cancel.

Looking back at the screenshots in this topic, I am thinking you are providing 'solid proof' in reply to this http://i48.tinypic.com/rwjc5d.png (http://i48.tinypic.com/rwjc5d.png) ?

My only question is, who put the 5x combat knifes in the trade window if you were AFK when the window opened for you? 

According to the bug report, it is a bug because it opens an unrequested  trade window for player C (you) for the purpose of blocking view.  It did not open the trade for the wrong person and does not show the wrong character name on the top of the trade box.

If you are referring to something else then nevermind.  In reply to,

Solid proof showing screenshots are fake: http://trac.rathena.org/changeset/16499/rathena (http://trac.rathena.org/changeset/16499/rathena)
I wouldn't be "silent" and giving items. lol. That's proof. :) I always AFK'd in Prontera or Lighthalzen in case a player wanted to leave a message. Interestingly enough, that bug surfaced and I was actually wondering about it. All evidence posted (since I wasn't talking or exchanging dialog) is fake.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 09, 2012, 11:57 am
I'll just ask the technical question here, don't feel like jumping into all the discussion and drama.

About the bug and bug report  http://trac.rathena.org/changeset/16499/rathena, (http://trac.rathena.org/changeset/16499/rathena,) the topic refer to the bug which Deepee reported here http://rathena.org/board/tracker/issue-6320-trading-bugexploit/ (http://rathena.org/board/tracker/issue-6320-trading-bugexploit/)

^ Reading the demonstration it looks like the abuse is used to block view in PvP / MvP / WoE.  As stated by Deepee

Looking back at the screenshots in this topic, I am thinking you are providing 'solid proof' in reply to this http://i48.tinypic.com/rwjc5d.png (http://i48.tinypic.com/rwjc5d.png) ?

My only question is, who put the 5x combat knifes in the trade window if you were AFK when the window opened for you? 

According to the bug report, it is a bug because it opens an unrequested  trade window for player C (you) for the purpose of blocking view.  It did not open the trade for the wrong person and does not show the wrong character name on the top of the trade box.

If you are referring to something else then nevermind.  In reply to,
If you read the thread (back a few pages), I posted proof where my account was compromised. I don't know yC, who did it!?!?! Who stole the cookie from the cookie jar!?!?!?!?!?!!! Maybe a mouse named Serah (refer to the proof I posted a few pages back where an admittance was made).

Either way, like I said, why wouldn't I admit to it when I admitted to the GR card situation (with a reason, whether a mistake or not) and the corruption back in Jan? WHY would I not admit to that if I've admitted to bigger issues? Again, post proof please.

To catch you up, there's the screenshot of it.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Poki on Aug 09, 2012, 02:35 pm
Wait let me get this straight, is Serah Owens even real? I'm having troubles finding her on Facebook (who has skype and not facebook?) and on top of that, I feel like I've came across that skype profile picture before on the internet [BANG]. Yeah, I'm trying really hard to creep her but it's nearly impossible. Makes me think that this was all planned using a friend/siblings voice under a fake persona to help you get out of this mess.

Something smells fishy.

You know what you should do? Give me her facebook profile and let me talk to her there. I'll believe you 100% and attempt to help clear your name if you do it and it goes right :>

(insert creepy song here)
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 09, 2012, 03:15 pm
Wait let me get this straight, is Serah Owens even real? I'm having troubles finding her on Facebook (who has skype and not facebook?) and on top of that, I feel like I've came across that skype profile picture before on the internet [BANG]. Yeah, I'm trying really hard to creep her but it's nearly impossible. Makes me think that this was all planned using a friend/siblings voice under a fake persona to help you get out of this mess.

Something smells fishy.

You know what you should do? Give me her facebook profile and let me talk to her there. I'll believe you 100% and attempt to help clear your name if you do it and it goes right :>

(insert creepy song here)
MAYBE SHE'S BORN WITH IT. MAYBE IT'S A MAN. MAYBE IT'S MAYBELLINE.

I wouldn't give you my very own Facebook. I don't give any of the RO community my real Facebook. Why would I give someone elses? Facebook has privacy options (hiding from search, etc) for a reason lol.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Juna on Aug 10, 2012, 11:11 am
I just want to point out.

1. The reason you admitted about giving the GR card, because we had solid evidence, whether it was screen shot or the guild member stating the above with proof. You had no loop hole to go around.

2. All the evidence that was posted on the first page of this thread was way more than enough of all the s*** you pulled. Blaming it all on Serah, yea go ahead. She's your cousin for godsake. I can make my cousin write me a skype conversation like that if I wanted to, #familylove.

3.You were corrupt from the start. I wish you the best in still holding your position (Genuinely). It just pisses me off seeing how you counter all your corruption with such BS.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: xwinter on Aug 10, 2012, 11:16 am
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Do you have proof (without a doubt) definitively, by IP address, showing it was me instead of Serah?
Yes.
(Keep scrolling)
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And just because you have a screenshot of her saying "Sorry, Roobie", doesn't mean anything. Because you and Serah have a history of sharing stuff, it just looks staged. Just saying.

It's just funny how whenever we post screenshots and proof you completely disregard it and say it's photoshopped. But then turn around and say "OMG BUT DO YOU HAVE PROOF!?" You have 1 Screenshot, whereas, we have many.

Also, when I was saying that you need to seek medical attention, it wasn't because of some game. No. It's because you're a compulsive liar. And anything we say, you always twist it to the opposite of what it really is.

Lastly, I do not appreciate you making up rumors about me and posting it on your forum. I haven't made any false account and spread anything on your forums. Once I leave a server, I leave. Seriously, how low.

Also, the real reason why Cookie fired Inny. It was deleted, as usual.
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Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Poki on Aug 10, 2012, 01:38 pm
(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/SerahCookie1.png)
(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/SerahCookie2.png)
(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g396/xkawaiifoxx/SerahCookie3.png)

Are you kidding me? Serah with only 2 forum posts and one of them being pics of herself that look nothing similar to her on Skype?
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Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: -Una- on Aug 10, 2012, 02:00 pm
Do ALL of those forum accounts belong to Cookie?  /hmm
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 10, 2012, 03:02 pm
can someone please tell me why the people from that guild are here calling cookie all these things for giving them items yet they accepted the items?...thats pretty damn hypocritical to me if you ask

It's a test. I'll ask you for items, but if you actually give them it tells me yours is a s*** server. I had fun with the GR card for all of one day and then the next day I felt no motivation to play at all. Why bother logging in to farm stuff when you can ask the server owner for some @item?

Are you trying to tell me I'm corrupt? I'm a player. I'll try to beat the system however possible. By getting some @item I practically won the game. Victory thread.

Not to mention, he said he banned the account with the GR thus removing it. Whoops, the GR is still on the server, trolololololol. How2keepthingsundercontrol.

Anyways, I love how he even looked for bugs to explain the screenshots. Obviously we farmed the Bacso. Or wait! Maybe we bought it with real zeny because Bacso card is extremely useful in WoE.

Not to mention, as usual, as soon as someone posts a decent argument against his lies and he changes his story. It was a tradebug before yC asked, but now it was Serah AFKing in Lhz. Only she wasn't AFK?...

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2vd4dbp.png)

It's nice to see the number of players online decreasing steadily.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 10, 2012, 03:12 pm
It's a test. I'll ask you for items, but if you actually give them it tells me yours is a s*** server. I had fun with the GR card for all of one day and then the next day I felt no motivation to play at all. Why bother logging in to farm stuff when you can ask the server owner for some @item?

Are you trying to tell me I'm corrupt? I'm a player. I'll try to beat the system however possible. By getting some @item I practically won the game. Victory thread.

Not to mention, he said he banned the account with the GR thus removing it. Whoops, the GR is still on the server, trolololololol. How2keepthingsundercontrol.

Anyways, I love how he even looked for bugs to explain the screenshots. Obviously we farmed the Bacso. Or wait! Maybe we bought it with real zeny because Bacso card is extremely useful in WoE.

Not to mention, as usual, as soon as someone posts a decent argument against his lies and he changes his story. It was a tradebug before yC asked, but now it was Serah AFKing in Lhz. Only she wasn't AFK?...

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2vd4dbp.png)

It's nice to see the number of players online decreasing steadily.
Maintenance this morning. We had 200 online after 10 minutes. lol.

And actually, I'm glad the staff/Avalanche left. Too much drama and Avalanche was a social guild that didn't know how to PVP much less WOE or even BG.

Show No Love and a bunch of guilds re-joined after to restore our WoE scene so our numbers are huge and competition has been epic.

Thanks!
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 10, 2012, 03:14 pm
Are you kidding me? Serah with only 2 forum posts and one of them being pics of herself that look nothing similar to her on Skype?
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yC/RMS Moderators can verify my IP has been changed for the last few months as I've moved from San Antonio. Please do so as this is becoming a completely different accusation and is irrelevant to the thread. She is my cousin, you know, so of course we've played RO and such at the same house. Euphemia also has logged in under my IP before.

Originally, Serah, Euphemia and myself played under the same IP all the time. We lived within a 2 block radius from each other (Euphe and I specifically) and we'd always do so. As her posts show, she wasn't active on our forums. I've now since been moved away from 8-9 months since I moved out of my parents house... xD This proves people play under the same household. IPB stores the original IP you registered with to each account. Then, each post records current IPs as well as logging clicks, actions, et cetera.

Snowy you are a liar. You know very well. God, you're two-faced and fake. I've kept people at bay from ripping into you in this thread, Snowy, for the sake of sanity but wow stop using your leaving due to being busy IRL to backstab the server with fake lies when you know very well the reasons and always agreed to them. It's funny because if all of this was an issue to you, why did it take you months to address it? You're a clown and masquerade around portraying what others would like for you to do and say. Hence why Xyrin (your boyfriend whom I couldn't stand on staff) had to write and draft EVERYTHING you posted to DivinityRO - he controls you and you're a puppet. Even KnuxieChan (from Avalanche) specifically told me about the night you and them planned to ruin the server! She left the Skype because she was uncomfortable with it. I just got informed of this recently, so just wait when we get proof this was planned as an attack on the server. You're going down, Snowy because when I'm done proving you planned all of this... it'll be lulz.
(http://i.imgur.com/Dxqwn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2fj13.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZS89t.jpg)
That's just the BEGINNING OF COMPLAINTS we got about Inny. And you got a lot, too, Snowy in the beginning. I don't believe you'd like v3 to come into this thread and address your issues as a GM, Snowy? I stood up for you guys, so politely screw yourself. I'm about to dump a trainwreck of screenshots on you and things you did wrong.

Notice Layla Mia: "Lack of events". Yup, that's our GM Manager of Events Snowy and her issues. It was never-ending with you and Inny, Snowy. Both of you always got respect from me and I came to each of your defense as the entire community didn't take very well to you especially our WoE community.

Second Screenshot: Deleting staff reviews? That happened way too often. I always told you guys to NOT RESPOND to the reviews. Against my authority, you continued to do so in the shape of Chyle, Inny, et cetera.

The FINAL STRAW was when Inny told Scio "[f*** you]" and was rude in Battlegrounds to him. I'll gladly pull that screenshot as it completely will exhibit his POOR behavior. I'd welcome the community to put input in on Inny.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 10, 2012, 03:50 pm
Actually I kicked Mallory from the Avalanche skype call because it was full and I forgot to readd her. I thought you weren't going to post here anymore, go away and stop PSing s*** together. Anyways, we never WoE'd because by the time we were ready we were done with your s*** server. Obviously you need to throw in taunts to make yourself seem more professional. Enjoy your pros in your super mega active WoE with no @item'd gears or MvP cards.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 10, 2012, 04:03 pm
Actually I kicked Mallory from the Avalanche skype call because it was full and I forgot to readd her. I thought you weren't going to post here anymore, go away and stop PSing s*** together. Anyways, we never WoE'd because by the time we were ready we were done with your s*** server. Obviously you need to throw in taunts to make yourself seem more professional. Enjoy your pros in your super mega active WoE with no @item'd gears or MvP cards.
Yes, because she was against your "Take Down Divinity with Snowy" coup. You guys are liars and made this thread based on lies and faked logs you had Snowy manipulate.

U mad? Because I got witness proof of it now. Scared?
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Jolen on Aug 10, 2012, 04:05 pm
It's a test. I'll ask you for items, but if you actually give them it tells me yours is a s*** server. I had fun with the GR card for all of one day and then the next day I felt no motivation to play at all. Why bother logging in to farm stuff when you can ask the server owner for some @item?

Are you trying to tell me I'm corrupt? I'm a player. I'll try to beat the system however possible. By getting some @item I practically won the game. Victory thread.

Not to mention, he said he banned the account with the GR thus removing it. Whoops, the GR is still on the server, trolololololol. How2keepthingsundercontrol.

Anyways, I love how he even looked for bugs to explain the screenshots. Obviously we farmed the Bacso. Or wait! Maybe we bought it with real zeny because Bacso card is extremely useful in WoE.

Not to mention, as usual, as soon as someone posts a decent argument against his lies and he changes his story. It was a tradebug before yC asked, but now it was Serah AFKing in Lhz. Only she wasn't AFK?...

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2vd4dbp.png)

It's nice to see the number of players online decreasing steadily.


A test? Im sorry but that sounds like a load of s*** to me. You accepted the items and used them and when s*** hit the fan you played it off is what it sounds like...or you were part of snowy's plot which is really low of you if that is the case...but i dont really know you so i cant say much but i am just being honest that sounds like s***.


and btw you havent won anything on divRO until you beat me..just because you got a GM item does not mean you beat the game...look what we did to High Society, a guild full of 30-40 players with the best gears and MVP cards(yea that cookie did give but took back)..and if u wanna start making accusations to where i was supposedly "given items" which is why im even posting then i challenge any gm on any server i been on to look at the logs and see if i was ever given anything
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 10, 2012, 04:06 pm
What s*** hit what fan? I got bored and decided to make this thread instead of playing on a corrupt server.

Then again, who are you again and why should I care?

(http://i49.tinypic.com/xdz4sj.png)

Kick, conference call. Bypassing 24 person limit on skype. Too pro for you.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Warp on Aug 10, 2012, 04:07 pm
Yes, because she was against your "Take Down Divinity with Snowy" coup. You guys are liars and made this thread based on lies and faked logs you had Snowy manipulate.

U mad? Because I got witness proof of it now. Scared?

No... because skype group calls have a 24 person limit, and she was offline anyway?
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Jolen on Aug 10, 2012, 04:13 pm
I am saying when snowy went and made this a public thing which was apparently a set up which i myself was on teamspeak when a certain GM confessed it was all planned...not taking any sides but that just made me lose all respect for snowy...not that i ever had any for her anyways

as far as who i am lol...dont worry you will find out sometime
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 10, 2012, 04:47 pm
No, this comes down to the GM team being unable to handle players for Snowy's case. For Avalanche, it was a failed attempt at trolling and as they're friends with Snowy from Aeirheim they decided it'd be great to fake this entire "plot". Nice job, Snowy. We've got all the proof we need and the community doesn't seem to be affected. If they were, Jolen wouldn't be in this thread. Funny thing is if I asked Jolen (SNL), Youri (Squirtle Squad) and all the other guilds/guild members if they wanted items they'd be like f*** no". Avalanche so pro. QQ more outsideheaven.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Jenova on Aug 10, 2012, 10:12 pm
No, this comes down to the GM team being unable to handle players for Snowy's case. For Avalanche, it was a failed attempt at trolling and as they're friends with Snowy from Aeirheim they decided it'd be great to fake this entire "plot". Nice job, Snowy. We've got all the proof we need and the community doesn't seem to be affected. If they were, Jolen wouldn't be in this thread. Funny thing is if I asked Jolen (SNL), Youri (Squirtle Squad) and all the other guilds/guild members if they wanted items they'd be like f*** no". Avalanche so pro. QQ more outsideheaven.

Are you seriously blaming them for accepting free items from a GM? Welp, haha.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 10, 2012, 10:16 pm
Are you seriously blaming them for accepting free items from a GM? Welp, haha.
Screenshots = fake and planned by Snowy/them. Faked logs, et cetera.

So no, I don't blame them for accepting items from whomever. Truth is, if it bothered them at the time they would've left the server and reported it immediately. They accepted those items from whomever (as Jolen and other said before RMS mods wiped the last few posts). It was a coup and a plot to destroy the server and one of Avalanche's guild members (outsideheavan's guild he runs is Avalanche) confirmed it to everyone and told us they planned it out.

lol. Worst coup ever.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: yC on Aug 10, 2012, 10:27 pm
Some pages of posts are irrelevant and thus removed.

Regarding this request:

yC/RMS Moderators can verify my IP has been changed for the last few months as I've moved from San Antonio. Please do so as this is becoming a completely different accusation and is irrelevant to the thread. She is my cousin, you know, so of course we've played RO and such at the same house. Euphemia also has logged in under my IP before.

Without revealing too much of our user information as per the privacy policy.  I can say that based on the logs in this forum, Cawliflower were logged to be using the IP shown in the previous screenshots (because Cawliflower acknowledged in public that it is his IP, it became public information) until June of this year and he uses a different IP thereafter. 

However, I am not seeing what I provided help in any way on both sides.  To be fair and to avoid the misuse / misleading of information:

1.  The IP being different at times provide reasonable information to support the claim that Cawliflower relocated over the last few months or he is in possession of more than one internet connection.

2.  Because we have no information up until today about this "cousin Serah", her existent is still not proven.  It is the case that we have the IP of Cawliflower now and later and they are different.  It is not the case that we have a "cousin Serah" coming from that previous IP of Cawliflower to support the story any further than what is stated in #1.  I won't be surprised this could happen like a deja vu in the near future just because I said it.


Now onto the importance of the existent of mysterious "cousin Serah" just to put the thread back on track:

Case 1:  She exists and is provided the information that she is the cousin of Cawliflower.

Point A - As someone pointed out, even in court you can't use your relatives to support yourself because of the "relationship matter". 
Point B - With all respect to RO players, we all know the result of the poor botter who tells GM: "cousin was on my account she does does not speak English".
Point C - Other information here points to that Admin account at level 99 could be shared.  Then chance of other accounts are being shared is reasonable high.

==> This leads to the nullification of any proof from "cousin Serah".

Case 2: She does not exists.

==> This leads to the conclusion dated as back as to the first post of this topic.

I don't know what's left to be done regarding this "cousin Serah", turns out she is not important anymore.  Maybe we'll go back to focus on finding proof that Cawliflower is not corrupt to restore the confidence to his server.




Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 10, 2012, 11:04 pm
Awesome, yup. I just recently moved in with my bf so that makes sense. The IP before must've been back at home. I don't remember... Euphemia and my cousin are at my house and vice versa A LOT prior to me moving 2 months ago.

Either way, people use the same IP all the time especially when you know them IRL. We always GMed at each other's houses. The small RMS forum community and a few Avalanche trolls have no confidence in the server. Our community has since gone unaffected by the happenings.

Thanks yC. Baiiiiiii guys.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Boreas on Aug 11, 2012, 05:34 am
So to sum this up, items were given out, by who doesn't really matter because of what yC pointed out already. You never share your GM account with anybody, why would you? That's as bad as giving out items right away. In other words, everybody who posted in this thread is aware of what went on, including me of course. Shame on you Cookie, I will never play your server.

Then again, I gotta agree with Cookie and his last posting. Sad story, but very true: nobody cares about this section of the RMS forum. It's nice to watch, but only trolls or people who are generally interested in drama will (yes, like me). Nobody is gonna check the "Rant and Rave" section before joining a server, so this whole story is entertaining but pointless.

Thank you for the great time I had tho, had quite some good laughs at this whole situation.

A moderator should lock this now as the thread won't go anywhere and Cookie should be put into the HoS - oh wait.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Aerox on Aug 11, 2012, 09:54 pm
A moderator should lock this now as the thread won't go anywhere and Cookie should be put into the HoS - oh wait.

I think this topic should be kept so more people can post their opinion regarding the matter.  I started playing probably under a year ago and had quit months ago as I was tired of the corruption myself.

Despite yC's attempt to be objective on Reply #95, the fact is, I have to agree with everyone else regarding Cookie's corruption.  I have always thought it was fishy how swift Cookie was in covering his tracks.  He had always permanently banned GMs and players including their IPs from his server and forums; reframing explanations so that it would benefit him (even though most of what he says is lies).  In other words, this person is selfish, immature, and will do whatever it takes to to get away with misconduct.

I think the primary reason why there are a decent amount of players on DivinityRO is because there is a lot of filtering that occurs on DivinityRO.  Cookie edits and deletes a lot of posts at an amazing speed.  To be frank, most people don't visit this section of RMS (or the forums at all) and so they're not likely to see these posts and have an objective record on his activities.  I advise people reading this thread to take a quick peek at the information he puts on his forums, and to see the amount of information he discloses to blind the masses.  If people actually bothered to investigate, it would be blatant that he only admitted to activities where there's concrete proof against him, but tries to hide everything else under the carpet the best he can.

I think the question that should be asked in the end is whether you trust this type of person or not.  This guy is straight-up one of the worst human beings I've ever witnessed my entire life.

For those who don't know this person very well, I recommend you check this link out. CTRL F and search for Cookie, Colin, orSkinnyBoy.
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/hall-of-shame/gm-hall-of-shame/ (http://forum.ratemyserver.net/hall-of-shame/gm-hall-of-shame/)

Take the time and do a little research on his past activities.  Reflect on the content of this entire thread and the previous reports made within the link, and make the decision yourself on whether you want to believe in Cookie or not, or if you want to support this kind of person.  I personally don't believe this person will ever change.

If you are adamant about not supporting Cookie, and want to take it a step further, it wouldn't be a bad idea to log on his server yourself and talk to people regarding the matter.  Share them the link to this thread.  See how they respond.  Ask them to share the link with others.  If there's one thing Cookie is good at, it's taking advantage of ignorance and controlling the masses.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: DeuxeVonL on Aug 11, 2012, 10:56 pm
If players cared so much about what happened on a server they play on, they'd investigate. A mass email was sent to users via the former GMs. That alone would/should have triggered users to go out and possibly check out Cookie. It's pretty obvious they've accepted what's happened, and moved on (or don't check their emails) to continue playing. That's up to them.

Cookie is in the HOS, his sig represents that (what people think of him as an individual isn't the point). What is astounding is if people knew he was corrupted, and clearly say it over, and over. Why on earth work for him for so long, then suddenly pop out and say "I've had enough"? I don't get it. It does seem fishy, no matter which way you swing it. I mean, it's not like he was even paying you to work for him.

I mean, lets say they do as you say Aerox. The mods leave it open, and people post opinions. Quite frankly, their all useless opinions. He's already been reported/HOS for being corrupted. He's put it in his sig here, and I'm sure by now the interested bunch from Divinity have seen it, and have spoken about it and formed their own beliefs. Obviously, his server is still obtaining players, and going on.

I just don't see it. Why keep it open any longer?

PS: Not taking sides.


Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Warp on Aug 12, 2012, 02:40 am
If players cared so much about what happened on a server they play on, they'd investigate. A mass email was sent to users via the former GMs. That alone would/should have triggered users to go out and possibly check out Cookie. It's pretty obvious they've accepted what's happened, and moved on (or don't check their emails) to continue playing. That's up to them.

Cookie is in the HOS, his sig represents that (what people think of him as an individual isn't the point). What is astounding is if people knew he was corrupted, and clearly say it over, and over. Why on earth work for him for so long, then suddenly pop out and say "I've had enough"? I don't get it. It does seem fishy, no matter which way you swing it. I mean, it's not like he was even paying you to work for him.

I mean, lets say they do as you say Aerox. The mods leave it open, and people post opinions. Quite frankly, their all useless opinions. He's already been reported/HOS for being corrupted. He's put it in his sig here, and I'm sure by now the interested bunch from Divinity have seen it, and have spoken about it and formed their own beliefs. Obviously, his server is still obtaining players, and going on.

I just don't see it. Why keep it open any longer?

PS: Not taking sides.
When players inquired about the email on the server's forums, the threads were deleted swiftly. Also, after conversing with people who have recently joined, the players there DON'T know about it.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Aerox on Aug 12, 2012, 11:42 pm
I think Warp's response pretty much sums up the majority of my response, but I'm gonna elaborate a little more anyway.

I honestly think there's some truth in what you say Deuxe, but I myself have registered with fake email accounts on DivinityRO, so I never even knew about those emails until I read about it in this thread.  I also never knew about this thread until a friend of mine who frequents the RMS forums often linked it to me on vent.  I personally am very rarely on the RMS forums.  The only reason why I ever come here is to check out the server advertisements when I'm server hopping.

I also didn't know Cookie was Cawliflower until I read this thread.  Imagine the amount of people who skim the forums and wouldn't catch that they were essentially the same person.  Not to mention I didn't even know Cawliflower advertised his membership to the Hall of Shame until someone made it conspicuous in a post.  As for why I didn't notice the signature, it probably has something to do with the fact that I never take the time to glance at a signature, which is probably why I never noticed it.

I think you're forgetting the fact that most people are too lazy (or would rather be playing) to even bother to put the extra effort unless there's great incentive to them.  If I were to look at it objectively, if I was a normal player who wasn't aware of Cookie's past corruption, I would accept Cookie's explanation on the forums and assume he really had changed.  In this case, people thought that the ordeal wasn't a big deal because it appeared no one was making a big deal about it when in reality Cookie deletes posts fast.

If you were to compare the information on this thread and the amount of information on the DivinityRO forums,  you'll find that a large amount of information was filtered to Cookie's favour.  From what I've seen, I can guarantee you most players that do care about corruption at DivinityRO still perceive Cookie in a positive light (and is most likely the reason why they are probably still there).  I think most people tend to forget that information tends to get filtered, and that filtering usually occurs out of bias.  This isn't necessarily indicative of corruption, but in this case, if you were to read the forum posts on DivinityRO you'll notice a big distinction (assuming none of the information has been changed/edited).  I would also like to clearly state that it is difficult to truly say that DivinityRO really did grow, as I've heard recently that a large portion of people online are actually vendors.

If I believed someone like Cookie was capable of change, I would probably still play the server myself.  But I don't.  And I'm sure many people would feel the same if they were as lucky as I was to stumble upon this thread, which I guarantee you, I would never find out about if no one had ever linked me. 

When I first learned about Cookie's past (and present) corruption, I had informed my guild and about a dozen friends and they had all left the server with me.  That's a fact.  You really have to have been playing the server a while and to be really active on the forums to realize the fishiness present.

As for closing this thread because all opinions would be "useless", I disagree, as Warp's post is empirical proof that this would not be the case.

Editv2: Claims of server growing may be a fallacy.  I just checked server population and more than half the server was merchant-related classes.  It doesn't mean all of them are vendors, but I can guarantee you a lot of them are.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: outsideheaven on Aug 13, 2012, 01:00 am
When players inquired about the email on the server's forums, the threads were deleted swiftly. Also, after conversing with people who have recently joined, the players there DON'T know about it.
Pretty much. A guy joined a new server we started playing on and he asked of any of us played DivinityRO. We told him about what happened and gave him our GR card (Which I traded before my account was banned.) He got bored by the next day and quit. Now he's playing on a new better server, woo.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Danimi on Aug 13, 2012, 05:27 am
We were staff; we worked with Cookie. We definitely had access to staff-bound resources and confidentials. A normal player couldn't sight it easily because of lack of power, so we had a wider vision of what happened behind the scene. We cared so much for the players to the extent that we informed the playerbase about it.

For me, what we did is not enough. Not all players have forum accounts, not all players use their real email, not all players read our concern, and not all players witnessed the drama. All must be informed; they are players. They have the right to know and we have the right to let them know. To the players of Divinity, please read this thread.

I won't care anymore if the players continue to play after knowing what happened. It is their right to freedom of decision. Cookie is already on the Hall of Shame so I realized it would be useless to throw negative feedback. Too much feedback have already been spilled, so all I just want is for them to be informed of the existence of this thread, and for them to read about it.

Happy reading, and may God bless you all.

Edit: Also, this is Dan, your (players) former enforcer. :)
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: yC on Aug 13, 2012, 04:20 pm
Now the discussion on the way the information is given out remind me of what lead to the downfall of EuphRO (correct me if i referred to the wrong server it was couple years ago).  Wasn't the corruption and how the admin was on drug, use the donation money to buy pot was announced in yellow text /b global broadcast on the server by another admin or gm?  That way the whole server or at least those that were online at the moment would be aware of it.  Screenshots will be taken and post all around the RO world.  Those interested to investigate or discuss it further can find their way easily. 

That would be the most effective way in spreading information that you want to make it non-retractable and undeletable.  It is kind of mean but I am just saying what we can learn from history.

Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: tomosuke on Aug 13, 2012, 05:22 pm
I think that this issue has reached a point where this should be closed.  However an issue I want to raise is that this server, and possibly many others are receiving unfair reviews, based on GM corruption, then suddenly that affects guild competition ratings and what not. I think the people in this thread should move on, you've given whatever information already, you've mass e-mailed people already, I think that's enough information dissemination as it is. Because I think if you continue beating a dead horse it won't look as if you're trying to be self-righteous, it would seem as if you're bitter and desperate in seeking vengeance on the corrupt GMs you're attacking. Give a fair review, if your only problem was corruption, then let it affect only the GM part of the review. So can we move on now, or are you planning to devote the rest of your life to actively attacking the server and its administrator?
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Warp on Aug 14, 2012, 02:34 am
Even the guild who defended cookie, calling us **** sucking scrubs", is against him now. Going so far as to claim martyrdom for revealing the corruption. So noble~
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: scio on Aug 14, 2012, 05:32 am
I find it incredibly bizarre, as one who's been on divRO for months and seen a lot of GM's, guilds and players come and go, that Cookie is actually attempting to make Snowy seem like some kind of villain. She's one of the nicest, most honest and most genuine GM's I've *ever* had the pleasure of dealing with, and not just on this server but on the pserv scene as a whole. It'd be like saying Mother Teresa was secretly in cahoots with the Nazis. Come on. You're not fooling anyone bro. The more you try and edit your server's history, the most obvious it becomes.

I fear I may have helped the Cookie propaganda machine myself, as my guild supported his server through thick and thin, even when friends of mine from major guilds that had left warned me about his ongoing corruption. He has even publicly admitted to at least three major instances of corruption (each one tied to a separate WoE guild at the time), but hey.. 4th time is the charm? I guess? Derp.

All in all though, meh.. it's just a game. It was fun for a time, and I met some good players that I'll probably try and convince to come along with me to eternity v4. As others have mentioned, this thread will probably have no impact on the server, though I personally wish a thread like this existed months ago (not the ones attacking Cookie's history with his other servers), as I probably would have got out a lot sooner.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: tomosuke on Aug 14, 2012, 07:31 am
Who's right and who's wrong is extremely relative in this scenario where there is a lack of substantial evidence. With the rise of Photoshopping, unless it's a video or something witnessed by numerous people who aren't tied together by a guild, then it is still questionable evidence.

Some intellectuals don't think Mother Theresa is deserving of her status, does that make them wrong? No, it doesn't because everything, especially online where lots of things can be edited.
Not trying to say that Cookie is or is not deserving of this, however what I want to say is that judgement has been passed a bit early. yC was right, unless a lot of other people not tied by the same guild witnesses it firsthand then it isn't something that really convinces players.

This became one big he said she said scenario.
Unless something new comes out, because I'm sure both sides milked this enough,  you guys should just stop this issue.

@warp - Which guild who defended Cookie are you referring to?
@scio - And you're planning to join a server which also had history of GM corruption. (Correct me if I'm wrong, I heard it from friends who've been on eROv3)
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: scio on Aug 14, 2012, 12:34 pm
Who's right and who's wrong is extremely relative in this scenario where there is a lack of substantial evidence. With the rise of Photoshopping, unless it's a video or something witnessed by numerous people who aren't tied together by a guild, then it is still questionable evidence.

Actually, you can analyse the screenshots with http://fotoforensics.com (http://fotoforensics.com)

Nothing seems out of place to me. Of particular interest are the GM log screenshots that Cookie claims were photoshopped by Snowy. ;)

@scio - And you're planning to join a server which also had history of GM corruption. (Correct me if I'm wrong, I heard it from friends who've been on eROv3)

No, you're right, eROv3 had some corruption. But IMO, v4 should be considered as a fresh start. Plus I mean... comparing apples to oranges here.. AFAIK kar doesn't consider 15v15v15 to be the recipe for an "epic" WoE.  /heh
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Boreas on Aug 14, 2012, 12:55 pm
Actually, you can analyse the screenshots with http://fotoforensics.com (http://fotoforensics.com)

Nothing seems out of place to me. Of particular interest are the GM log screenshots that Cookie claims were photoshopped by Snowy. ;)

No, you're right, eROv3 had some corruption. But IMO, v4 should be considered as a fresh start. Plus I mean... comparing apples to oranges here.. AFAIK kar doesn't consider 15v15v15 to be the recipe for an "epic" WoE.  /heh

Why? After all you have the same admin, what makes you think something will change?
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: scio on Aug 14, 2012, 01:01 pm
Why? After all you have the same admin, what makes you think something will change?

I think people should given a 2nd chance. Trouble with Cookie is that he took a 3rd and 4th.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: DeuxeVonL on Aug 14, 2012, 01:04 pm
I think people should given a 2nd chance. Trouble with Cookie is that he took a 3rd and 4th as well.

I personally don't believe people will break habits, well, at least easily any ways.

Good luck on there though.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Aerox on Aug 17, 2012, 04:19 pm
Who's right and who's wrong is extremely relative in this scenario where there is a lack of substantial evidence. With the rise of Photoshopping, unless it's a video or something witnessed by numerous people who aren't tied together by a guild, then it is still questionable evidence.

I think the kind of evidence you seek is a little unrealistic given the amount of people who have posted in this thread and the amount of information/screenshots provided.  Even in a courthouse, a witness could be lying (similar to your argument regarding photoshop), but when multiple parties that are known throughout different RO communities verify the evidence presented, there has to be some truth in what happened.  Not to mention the reviews, and other rants regarding DivinityRO in other threads/places lead up to the same conclusion: Cookie possesses blatant Machiavellian characteristics and will do whatever it takes to pass off as innocent or minimize the effects of this discussion.  Based on your criteria for substantial evidence, I wouldn't even know how to prove Cookie's ninja abilities when it comes to swiftly deleting threads.

I don't know about the credibility of http://fotoforensics.com (http://fotoforensics.com) as I have not tested it or researched it, but if you're so inclined to collecting "substantial evidence", you might as well try the server for months and talk to veterans until you get concrete evidence.  I think the statistic probability of you finding corruption (assuming Cookie doesn't lay low anymore) is statistically more likely than someone who was recording the corruption at hand as a third party.

I myself joined one of these guilds and acquired an item that was not obtainable at the time (I don't know if it's implemented already cause I haven't touched the server in over 6 months), so I know for a fact that corruption exists based on empirical evidence.  I've even seen a player (who apparently had dropped items in town to prove Cookie's corruption) hold a +10 Elemental Sword, which to many players with adequate knowledge of the game, is a red flag for corruption.  I have heard there was an instance where there was an instance where a MvP Card had "dropped" and this caused players to QQ.  The result was a wipe.  To be fair, I wouldn't even be surprised if this card didn't actually drop.

I don't know about you, but the fact that this many people are speaking about him and providing all those screenshots is enough substantial evidence.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: scio on Aug 18, 2012, 06:37 pm
evidence is sort of irrelevant at this point since cookie himself admitted he was corrupt in the past and just recently. now we're supposed to believe he's changed. fact is, i think most people on the server are aware he is corrupt, but, sadly, they simply don't care that he is. out of desperation i think, as there isn't really a viable alternative for MR servers at the moment. the new ones just get squashed by DDoSers.

i don't know why, but this kind of silliness seems to be commonplace on MR's. divRO is just a particularly good (or bad?) example. maybe because everything is so easy to get that rare items that don't drop (ie GM @item'd) are the only way to coax people into joining.

never been a fan of MR's myself. i thought the server was silly from start to finish, but people i know went there and there wasn't really an alternative after uvRO and then avrisRO died. really happy to see eternity coming back  /kis

cookie is a bit of a goof. trolls make bad gm's. he's a great dev though, and i don't think anyone can deny that. one silver lining is that i think he's started to realize he is terrible at PR/managing things and is trying to avoid it in favor of coding. i hope for the sake of users left on the server he smartens up.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: yC on Aug 18, 2012, 06:45 pm
Oh ya, since it is not just a rant anymore, I'll move this to the hall of shame shrine (which only registered users are able to see, it's setup this way so the forum don't just attract drama ...).

Will add this topic to the HoS profile of Cookie.

If there isn't any more new evident to show I'd appreciate no more new posts beyond this line.  Thank you.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Anonymous16 on Aug 21, 2012, 06:41 pm
COokie is sucks, seriously, his a F***ing corrupt GM only wants more money, and making excuse about paying the server DDos attack*and still server always down from DDoS attack*, but the truth is that he has stash loads of money bcuz ppl buying MVPs card secretly and most of them really kiss and lick COokie donkey so well that shines brighter than the sun......

Remember his selling UMBALA SPIRIT with slot(only selective ppl got there hands on it cuz Cookie planned it and organized the auction)  well The UMABALA SPIRIT is the least of problem, the fact is he spld GR,GTB, THANATOS, Deviling and many more MVPs card(almost every single on mvps) and his talking about server stability and balance  /omg............. wat a joke

I post this msg cuz one of the player showed it to me and say that GM Cookie is the one behind it all ( dont believe that his cousin did it cuz it is not true he did it and his cousin didnt even know the password of his account, that is only excuse to get away from the topic and accusation)....... /no1

And if any player tried to post  some information about the scam and corruption of so called "GM Cookie", he always delete it so that it wont trace back to his ugly action of corruption, i know cuz i tried posting it in his website, and when i ask him WHY DID HE DELETED THE POST HE JUST REPLIED "ITS MY WEBSITE AND MY GAME and U dont HAVE any CHOOSE, U EITHER FOLLOW ME QUIETLY OR LEAVE"............. that means if he gives some1 an mvp cards then he cant complain and do a s*** about it /an..........

its an eye opener for me and i will not play never again in his corrupt server.............

maybe some of u just dont give a s*** about this but im telling the truth, (every person that recieve the mvps from COokie always saying "I was hunting/grinding and im one of the oldest ppl in this server" but it is not true at all Cookie feed those words to that ppl so that if some1 ask thats the line they always say and if they tell the truth COokie just gonna ban there account and act like it didnt happen just like HS, and AVALANCE GUILD.......

well anyway its up too u to decide but i did warn you and no matter wat happen pls..... pls .... dont donate no matter wat cuz u only gonna regret it...........

Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Nika on Aug 21, 2012, 11:06 pm
COokie is sucks, seriously, his a F***ing corrupt GM only wants more money, and making excuse about paying the server DDos attack*and still server always down from DDoS attack*, but the truth is that he has stash loads of money bcuz ppl buying MVPs card secretly and most of them really kiss and lick COokie donkey so well that shines brighter than the sun......

Remember his selling UMBALA SPIRIT with slot(only selective ppl got there hands on it cuz Cookie planned it and organized the auction)  well The UMABALA SPIRIT is the least of problem, the fact is he spld GR,GTB, THANATOS, Deviling and many more MVPs card(almost every single on mvps) and his talking about server stability and balance  /omg............. wat a joke

I post this msg cuz one of the player showed it to me and say that GM Cookie is the one behind it all ( dont believe that his cousin did it cuz it is not true he did it and his cousin didnt even know the password of his account, that is only excuse to get away from the topic and accusation)....... /no1

And if any player tried to post  some information about the scam and corruption of so called "GM Cookie", he always delete it so that it wont trace back to his ugly action of corruption, i know cuz i tried posting it in his website, and when i ask him WHY DID HE DELETED THE POST HE JUST REPLIED "ITS MY WEBSITE AND MY GAME and U dont HAVE any CHOOSE, U EITHER FOLLOW ME QUIETLY OR LEAVE"............. that means if he gives some1 an mvp cards then he cant complain and do a s*** about it /an..........

its an eye opener for me and i will not play never again in his corrupt server.............

maybe some of u just dont give a s*** about this but im telling the truth, (every person that recieve the mvps from COokie always saying "I was hunting/grinding and im one of the oldest ppl in this server" but it is not true at all Cookie feed those words to that ppl so that if some1 ask thats the line they always say and if they tell the truth COokie just gonna ban there account and act like it didnt happen just like HS, and AVALANCE GUILD.......

well anyway its up too u to decide but i did warn you and no matter wat happen pls..... pls .... dont donate no matter wat cuz u only gonna regret it...........

Dude, you are my hero. Best comment ever.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Cawliflower on Aug 25, 2012, 12:45 am
As I said many times in this thread, all of Snowy's drama was orchestrated by her and her boyfriend.

Here's the same staff that left with her, apologizing for their involvement in her non-sense:

Vanity - http://forums.divinityro.com/index.php?/topic/3659-an-apology-to-all-players-throughout-the-server-and-the-divinityro-staff-itself/#entry27840 (http://forums.divinityro.com/index.php?/topic/3659-an-apology-to-all-players-throughout-the-server-and-the-divinityro-staff-itself/#entry27840)
Dan - http://forums.divinityro.com/index.php?/topic/3658-personal-apology/ (http://forums.divinityro.com/index.php?/topic/3658-personal-apology/)

I'm a firm believer in second chances. They were good GMs. That leaves really only Snowy, Seryth and Xyrin left as Deviluke and Youri decided to not leave a day after.

Just thought this was relevant to this dramz.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Mewi on Sep 21, 2012, 07:01 pm
I guess since this post is already at the top, it doesn't matter if I reply a month late.  So

Just keep in the back of your mind, that whenever considering any of Skinnyboy's ( Cookie ) evidence, that he is known for modifying serverside files, hijacking player accounts, and posting this modified/fabricated evidence to prove his innocence.  Now he does a horrible job at this regardless but....

Just a warning~  Because I know,  in a month or sooner... there will be more Cookie drama.  I think he is trying to become #1 Hall of Shamer on RMS, seriously.

~Celeste~
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: motherflippin on Nov 13, 2012, 12:59 pm
I can confirm Cookie giving mass items to WoE guilds. Entire woe sets for core classes, sunnies[1] and rwc gold for entire guild. On multiple teamspeak/vent/raidcall where Cookie often chilled during WoE laughing at the other guilds for sucking. Often with the current "strongest" guild. I think he even recalled people inside the castle at one point.

I have received more then 2 guildpacks via this. All including mass items.

@item mats,gears etc. was no problem if we needed something during/before WoE. He also admitted on the voice chat programs he doesn't care about NDL and such.

I've noticed he's just a douche in general, attends to guildleaders like a trained dog but helping "mere peasants"  was below him.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Boreas on Nov 13, 2012, 01:35 pm
And you got evidence for this....?
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: motherflippin on Nov 13, 2012, 03:36 pm
Nop, I don't record vent or take screenies when I get a guild package. I'm pretty sure any recent DivRO player can remember certain guilds joining and all being full gear within 2 days including entire guild full of RWC Gold, sunnies and spirit of umbala.

Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Triper on Nov 13, 2012, 04:26 pm
Well, without any evidence this is just a game of "You vs the world". Maybe you can describe how hard is to get those items? This is just because a guild can be geared quite fast with the basic needed to WoE in a midrate.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: motherflippin on Nov 13, 2012, 07:53 pm
They are the most expensive items in the game / some donate only.

But like I said I dont really take screens of getting gear from leaders or record vent. But anyone who played there recenly knows of a few guilds joining and having
full mats,bg gear, donate gear, long bg grind gear.

And the whole "you vs the world" who would you believe, an owner with a very big record or me who also specifies a few details.

Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Triper on Nov 13, 2012, 10:00 pm
Well, with some being only donates, a guild could invest a ton of bucks to get a ton of them. With this in mind, if the items or the currency used for that can be traded/sold/etc, it's just a small step to have the basic items needed in some quick days.

BG gear can be done fast if the server have it most of the time on. Dunno how active it's there but some guilds share accounts around their core members since they're playing together for ages and when someone is done with BG gears at his/her char, they just change to friend's char and keep doing it. If they never set a foot there, then that's another story and is fishy.

Also, the server doesn't have a Guild Pack, right? Some server have some that make a guild be like insta ready for action with some quick minutes of farm a couple of days.

And I would believe at you based on his past as many others would do too but nothing is 100% sure without evidence since anyone can use his past to spread bad things about him.

The best I can advice is to see if someone got any proof and ask to send you to post here or tell them to post it here but remember, Cookie/Cawliflower is already at the Hall of Shame so this won't change that much the current situation since it seems that people keep joining the server after reading everything here and there. If they still join the server then nothing is going to stop them from playing there except if the server dies.

The max to do in here, if you want, is adding a quick list with guild/players that have made that[if it's true ofc] so other players can see what they're facing and if they still want to play with them knowing that or want to still being there facing them for the challenge provided.

If no evidence is provided then it's up to people believe on whatever they want. Your story, others story or get into the server and see for their own eyes and make their own judges.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Kensei on Nov 14, 2012, 04:11 am
BG gear can be done fast if the server have it most of the time on. Dunno how active it's there but some guilds share accounts around their core members since they're playing together for ages and when someone is done with BG gears at his/her char, they just change to friend's char and keep doing it. If they never set a foot there, then that's another story and is fishy.

Forgot the ratio since I quitted, but I think it's not that high that you can gear up fast. Let's say, you'll need one or two weeks fully active to get geared in this server (fastest) and ready to WoE. If there's a guild that's totally new but can gear up and WoE on the following week, I'd say it's fishy, seeing this server also emphasize PvM.

Also, the server doesn't have a Guild Pack, right? Some server have some that make a guild be like insta ready for action with some quick minutes of farm a couple of days.

http://forums.divinityro.com/index.php?/topic/364-guild-package/ (http://forums.divinityro.com/index.php?/topic/364-guild-package/)

They have, but those are far from enough to gear whole guild.

(click to show/hide)

Though if you ask me, most ended up becoming free items to start  PvM. I don't see any noteworthy WoE guild here anymore, and people are still trying to fool the GMs on guild package.

If they still join the server then nothing is going to stop them from playing there except if the server dies.

Because it's rank 2 on Mid-Rate and that's all the people cares. They don't give a damn on the staffs. All PvM and social players need is a stable server to play on. Full stop.
Title: Re: DivinityRO - The last nail in the coffin.
Post by: Triper on Nov 14, 2012, 11:28 am
If it goes like that then yeah, I've to agree that something fishy is there but as you said, tons of people, nowadays, just want a stable server to be able to call it home since the average lifetime of a server seems to be like 1 month...