Snipers/Hunters BEST PvP Guide

[Dnaiel222]

With this guide you will be the best sniper/hunter on every server, trust me, I was the ebst sniper on almost all servers I played.

Alright starting.

Stats-
First 2 things you must know-

Dex- Bows power, the more you get the stronger your hit
Agi- Your Attack speed. The more ASPD you have the faster you are, on most servers- 190,192,195,197 are max ASPD so don't over go your agi on High Rate server or Super high. Okay if you got max ASPD max out your dex, on any server you need maxed Dex.Then the rest to vit and luk if you can.

Next- the items.

Basic items

Upper Headgear:    AoA/Apple of Archer
Middel Heagear:    Binoculars
Lower:   crunch toast,romantic flower or whatever looks good.
Optional- if your server has customs, always choose dex items (but if your agi isn't maxed get aspd once..WARNING GET THE ITEMS ONLY IF YOU MAXED OUT YOUR LEVELS!)
Armor:
on this you need to have some not just one card on an Armor

Card 1: Sasquatch or Garm- Sas-6% freeze enemy Garm- 50% freeze
Card 2: Marc- if you have this card you won't be abble to get frozen.
Card 3: OPTIONAL Asura Noob's worst nightmare- Ghostring- makes your armor on Ghost propert- it will protect you from Asura (Asura will do half of the dmg it should, in other words you won't get killed by asura)

Weapon: On most servers, you should use 2 Hydra Cards and 2 Skel Worker cards. they increase your damage on demi-humans
But if you don't want to someone to turn your damage to nothing get Status Card like cards that give dex+ something
And the best one out oif these 3 (its the hardest card to get on Ragnarok (most servers)) Thanatos Card-if enemy has def- his destroyed. the more def the more damage you'll do on them, in other words increases your damage by a huge amount like this I played XenaRO And before i had thana I DFed 40ks and when I got Thana ihitted 200-600k each DF so this card is really good.

Garment: Noxious Card is the way to go. Now you can go two ways with it either, Wool or Crest.

Foot Gear:Mytar card is what I like in either Tidal or BLBs.

Accessories:Wikebine cards, the ability to strip armor by 5% so if you have more then 1 you can have 10% and that is ALOT!!!!

Elements-

This is my little secret-

This card is really good on EDP/Enatch Deadly Poison sinx on high rate servers or any rate if they use poison on you then they are worthless with this card-

Evil Druid Card- makes your armor to the undead propert propert- witch means they will not hit you with meele cause Undead Kills Poison in other words, Poison does't work at ALL on undead. so you can kick their asses like nothing, BTW, Sinxs meele without edp is worthless cause its weak, so meele sinx are s*** agianst you can in either way, without EDP or any other poisen, their worthless against Evil Druid Cards (only meele sinx) cause without it their hit will be alot weaker. So if there is a server were meele sinx are overpowered you'll be abble to kick every sinxes donkey, unless one of them has thanatos, cause if they do, they don't need EDP cause with thanatos it will hit even more damage then regular.

Tips- if there are more snipers on the server you play, I have a good way to beat them, instead of Wiki card get the Acolyte/Endre Card from Lhz_dun02/Lightzen Doungen 2. Kill the acolyte atuoloot his clip and his card, and what his card does it peanuma skills (When a sniper strikes you with any arrow,falcon hit just so you know it will miss every hit) this card is a way to kill snipers and SBK/ Soul breaker/Soul destroyer cause SBK is a long range hit and Peanuma blocks arrows and some long range attack like Soul Breaker, so with this card and evil druid, you can kill every sinx, and BTW, if you see a high Priest don't attack him while having evil druid card, cause they will kick your donkey easily with Holy light or Mag make sure to kill the preist as fast as you can then put the evil druid and kill the sinx or sniper. And BTW, Sinx is a worthless job so you can know snipers > Sinx on every server, the only sinx that could ever kill is a sin with thanatos, cause i had no thanatos and then he beated me.

And yeah, if you have any qestions post them here, or if you have any siggestins to my guild post them are as well. Good luck in the PVP world as snipers, as my option, champs and snipers are th best. Champ(not Asura Noob)

[Pandora]

Card 3: OPTIONAL Asura Noob's worst nightmare- Ghostring- makes your armor on Ghost propert- it will protect you from Asura (Asura will do half of the dmg it should, in other words you won't get killed by asura)

Actually Asura should do only 25% if you wear a GR (75% damage resist).

[blackgh05t]

-Never met a sniper I couldn't out-pot (Don't play anything but 99/70)
-Most priests won't Magnus you, but rather Ress you.
-If you think sinX's can't take you down, you've obviously never met enough full SB sins.
-Why no details about traps in the guide? >:[

In any case. Thanks for an explanation on some gear. Sure it'll help someone. :]

P.S. : I'll have to agree that champs who don't asura everything that moves are the best.

[Dnaiel222]

Dude, I played a 2/2/2 server, and no sinx can ever beat me, i even beated a full donator sinx. that build is acctualy yhe best one you can ever see, sinx have no chance agains archer class(those who know how to play the game) with that guide i'll take you on on any server even on 1/1/1 server =]

[Hakumei]

Either you're that good or those Assassins suck badly, LOL.

[blackgh05t]

Well think of it this way. If I can outpot your damage, theres no reason to kill you, I'll just take your castle.

[Dnaiel222]

Not that easy, on the server i play all castels on every map they can their mine and 500+ ppl play.

[Infection]

This is far from being the best, ever. It's not even remotely close to being intermediate.

I would rate this a 2.. Maybe 3 for the effort.

[Ashe]

Snipers are s*** in woe. It's a fact.

Let's look at reductions hmm?

All skill based damage with the exception of Gloria Domini and Gravitational Field is reduced by 40%. [Skills like Double Strafe]
Noxious Garment 10%
2 alligator accessories 10%

That's 60% reduction of your duble strafe right there.

Assuming that your double strafes could do 4000 Damage to a player with no gear on whatsoever.
If a player equipped those in WoE, your damage would now be 2400.

Now let's throw on our -% Damage from demi-Human gears.

Feather Beret/Beret 10%
Cranial [Every GOOD SinX will wear one until they're in attacking range] 30%

Your double strafe damage is nerfed to 960. EASILY outpottable by a SinX, unless he's an idiot who has no vit at all.

[Sarin]

Actually, even with no vit, good SinX>any sniper.

The fact is, in two seconds after battle starts sniper gets stunned, and in next second, SB blasts him off.

Also, speaking about equip: SinX that uses only enchant poison to get element is a noob. Converters FTW. So ED is no win. I use it myself, but because of profs and people using stonecursing cards.
Upper headgear-I'd use feather beret myself. You can get 150 dex without bless without having to use dex from headgears at all, so I think reductions (or Alice doll if it is available) will be better. Garment-dragon tail. +5% dmg is nice, agi+1 and flee +10 is good too since you have to rely on flee against physical attacks.

Some other things too, you haven't mentioned one essential..foodstuff. Dex and agi +3 are easily obtainable. For pvp cards, I use 3 hydra 1 skel worker...damage is almost identical against players without pecos, and you do better against fatties . And it is easier obtainable.

IMO your guide is little confusing. Most PvP snipers I know use two equip sets-status/stripping one, with composite bow filled with metaling and various status cards and clip with Wikebain, and damaging, with pvp bow and nimble gloves. What you got here is kinda...little of something and good in nothing...

And you totally missed one thing...traps.

[Pandora]

Snipers are s*** in woe. It's a fact.

No it's not! Snipers can do great in woe, in fact any trans/extended class can do great in woe if you play it well, thats the beauty of ragnarok, it's a pretty well balanced game.

I'm not saying you can beat anything with a sniper, far from it, but woe is team work and sniper can be a great asset in it. There's the obvious traps, as mentionned before, but you can do neat damage too. Everyone wears demi-human reducing gears so yeah you have to factor that in, but you also factor it in for any other class. As for noxious and 2x alligator, I don't know many people who wear that in woe, and if they do it just means they are less efficient and/or easier target for the other classes in your team (melee/magic).

If you end up alone against a sinx in close proximity you weren't playing well in the first place, and yeah maybe you will die, but that's because he shouldnt have gotten close to you in the first place (traps <3) and you shouldnt be alone anyhow, woe is about teamwork.

[Loki]

You can always give them status ailments, but its usually countered with panacea or green pots 

I used to play on a server that uses Sniper as a support class. Traps everywhere, and then the status ailments.

[mark_sanbeda]

my fav is also a champ  but can you tell me how to use the traps effectively? i see some snipers set up traps[i kinda forgot maybe it was a trap for stun or freeze ] and use arrow shower to push back the enemies then kill them w/ DS or FA 

[superja]

throw traps out everywhere, and drop AGI in favor of INT.

Snipers have fun traps that do things like knockback, drain sp, freeze, or just hold the enemy in place.

More fun than just DS-ing the junk out of some sinx is throwing down a skid trap in front of you to get them caught in an ankle snare and then falcon assault + blitz beat.

Of course, it takes some practice, obviously...

[blackgh05t]

Agi snipers still have their place in WoE!  Not as DPSers but good hit-lockers for those pesky speed potting sinXs.

[Ouran]

A sinx who knows what they're doing will most likely 1-2hit ko you. You might be able to last abit if you were in FA build since you be carrying a cranial orlene shield or so.
But if you play agi and your saying that your killing every sinx you lie your eyes on it kinda hard to believe. Like the post above stated;it either your godly or they are just purely pathetic...

[locked1nside]

this is just a guide to have a good sniper equips and stat.
i think for the skills, depend on the players...

because anyone can make guide also for other job,
like asura champ guide, agi champ guide, FA sniper guide, crit sinx guide, SBsinx guide.

and the implementation depends on the players...

if you want to know the result of 2 players go on --> pvp....
it doesn't matter how they use items, equips and skills to pwn you.
it only matter when you're dead....  

[watdapak]

I will like to add the best armor for sniper is the sniping suit which reduced the delay of double strafe.

[Ayub]

not bad

[fluidin]

You guys might want to take into account that pure Sharpshooting snipers provide one of the best long ranged DPS available, taking into account buffs and team support skills.

People tend to just forget that such a lethal skill exists in the Sniper's arsenal.

[Poki]

I believe I like using my sniper to pick off the weak ones and leave those (like SinX) for other players in the guild to handle.  The main job that a sniper in my eyes is to slow down the enemy and pick off weak players quickly.

Hrmm, if a Sniper were to go against a sonic blow SinX, I would say the Sniper would win depending on how he/she is playing.  Of course, this is in PvP, and not in WoE.

I'd just trap ankle snare and stack land mines that'll deal roughly about 15k+ and FA at the last bit. I don't think you can pot against that. Probably throw in a few SP drain or so. (Not in WoE, sadly)

[superhappyfun]

no offense but i think this is a rather horrible guide. like why would you wear an aoa instead of a beret/poohat? that along with getting max dex and agi (to get the max aspd as you suggest) and rest into vit would leave with you pretty bad hp and bad defense. all it would take is one edp sb and you die.

as for getting a gr or a thanatos card. LOL goodluck with that on a lowrate server. and yes snipers cant really kill in woe. they are pretty much a support class with the traps and the status-ing.

[Ominoto]

Everyone knows DS Snipers are terrible.  FA in WoE or you're bound to die.

[fluidin]

DS and FA are both terrible.

SS in WoE, or just stick to status and trap.

[Bootleg]

DS and FA are both terrible.

SS in WoE, or just stick to status and trap.

Eh, I just use hybrids in WoE
they can do whatever they like

[fluidin]

Hybrids can't SS with optimal damage though.

Good thing about Sniper is, even if your build is cock, you can always still trap, status and detect.

[Poki]

And if traps is not your thing, then I shall introduce the status alignment bow to you.

[Loki]

People should definitely try Poki's guide for FA snipers. I think there's some in the Writing website.

[Amui]

On a SinX, I have never met a DS sniper in WoE I couldn't outpot. Maybe 2 or 3 at once could beat me, but a  bucknaked sinx with some vit can outpot a DS sniper. It's when you get status'd that it gets harder =P.

[Chimichanga]

Evil Druid is your secret? Wow lol, it doesn't block edp b/c edp is not poison. I also agree that triple bloody boned is better than the other but from the woes iv been in, i have never noticed a -40% reduction. Ds snipers are quite effective in my opinion and iv never seen sharpshooters....Most good snipers ds for 2k and they hardly have no delay. In addition, a sniper's role is to pick off wizzies/sages and to hinder the enemy with traps. 

The only reason why ppl think edp is poison is because lots of sinxs use enchant poison before they edp.

[LavenderScent]

The problem with Hybrid Sniper vs SB SinX is the fact that Detect has horrible delay. Any person on the ball can rehide/cloak in the delay of DS.
Status grimming before going for the SB is usually used by SinXs. Which kinda makes it hard when most Hybrid Snipers have only med vit.

The only way a Sniper will win convincingly is if they are an experienced Sniper that remembers that Snipers do indeed possess trap skills (i.e. Sleeper). But I don't see too many of those nowadays, which is kind of sad.

[Poki]

Detect is nothing when you have traps, but I do feel sad that there are hardly any snipers out there who uses their traps like a monster.

[LavenderScent]

Traps take time to prep too though :x Especially when you can't see where the opponent is coming from (as is the case here). Else, lay a Sleeper and AS (followed by the usual Shockwaves and final Ankle)

And yeah, it's sad when I mention Sleeper trap in PvP and people look at me funny :'<

[Poki]

Well, a sniper has a quicker walking speed than a SinX since they have wind walk on their side.
Taking that bit of information in to consideration, it's just a matter of fact to know about this:

Majority (90%) of the players in RO will chase someone from the butt.

Many SinXs fall in to that category and therefore they will chase you with cloak up the butt.  All you have to do is windwalk, run a straight path and place a Sleeper and ankle snare if wanted backwards.

If they're immune sleeper, feel free to just stun with land mines (they do a considerable amount of damage as well if you're on FA build... approximately 1.2k+ per mine) and FA them every time they reveal themselves after taking a hit from a land mine.

Obviously they can out-pot that, but in a duel with no pots, you'd be declared the winner.

(If there were pots, then you must have to be lucky and hope that they aren't immune to sleep. If they aren't, make them fall asleep, drain their SP, place a sleep trap that is ready to be pushed by arrow shower, use FA and immediately put them to sleep before they can pot a lot. OR, just sleep/ankle snare and stack a lot of land mines and try to kiss them goodnight.)

[fluidin]

Hmm. Circumstances might vary if speed pot is readily available on your server.

[Poki]

Well, if speed pot was in play... then it's best to assume that the two players are both using it so technically, they're both just as quick and the trapping skills will have to be a lot quicker.

[Allie]

I use Dancing Dragon Card/Noxious Card/Kapha Card on a Valk Mant on my Sniper. (Switch them around).

 Do not resurrect threads that are from more than 2 months ago unless you have something very important to say. 

[LiteX]

I use Dancing Dragon Card/Noxious Card/Kapha Card on a Valk Mant on my Sniper. (Switch them around).

Erm...isn't this guide kind of old to be thrown back?
And wtf a *2 Hydra *2Skel Worker?

Like I said before:
1.6*1.15>1.4*1.3

And card % skill chances do NOT stack, and wtf at EDP being poison...

Honestly. edit your guide if you see any fails/flaws

And I expect horo to come in this guide and explode due to the number of flaws and saying "Best" in the title

[Allie]

Sorry >_>

It was very late my time and I didn't notice the date D: