OMG WoE!!!

[Sarin]

I have Ubuntu 8.04....gonna try it, thanks.

One thing scares me tho

The client seems to run painfully slow with ATI cards

Even with 1gb of RAM and a 2ghz processor, it's still fairly slow, and the mouse is jumpy

I have Athlon 2100, 512 RAM and Radeon 9600....
But the guide is old, I guess Wine has improved a lot since then...

[Pow]

I have Ubuntu 8.04....gonna try it, thanks.

One thing scares me tho

The client seems to run painfully slow with ATI cards

Even with 1gb of RAM and a 2ghz processor, it's still fairly slow, and the mouse is jumpy

I have Athlon 2100, 512 RAM and Radeon 9600....
But the guide is old, I guess Wine has improved a lot since then...

Best you can do is try

-Pow

[Sarin]

Downloading now...but goes so damn slow.

Do I need Rag or only Sak for RMS test server? Gonna try it there first...

[Pow]

Downloading now...but goes so damn slow.

Do I need Rag or only Sak for RMS test server? Gonna try it there first...

Just Sakray.

-Pow

[Sarin]

Thanks. Gonna take some time tho, the download goes slow...10% so far

[Poki]

And I can win by attrition easily enough...you carry quite a lot of equip, gems for fire pillars and SWs, and just a few pots will bring you well over 50% carry weight...all I have to do is to force you to keep defensive spells by running around, and let you deplete your sp...then you either have to throw away some pots, or just run for your life. In either case, you are dead.

Oh man.  He truly is kicking my donkey.  This is why it's going to be so hard trying to kill someone with a class that is terrible for PvP and is my worst class to play with. Haha. Still, pretty good effort.

As far as I know, you cannot place two IWs at same place. I will be able to get through...

No... but I can place one in front of it, move back a bit, and it'll be the same exact thing over again.

I can avoid those AoEs tho, I got smokie

Heaven drive?

And by the way,what is your skill setting? I tried to simulate it, and got to conclusion that your only hitting spell would be SG, and that is very easy to avoid....or, if you want to use MS instead, or perhaps ot will be magic amp that you will lose?

I think it goes like this: http://ratemyserver.net/skill_sim.php?jid=4010
EDIT: Okay, so it doesn't show.  So Safety wall is level 4 so that I can safety wall one part of the ice wall.
Storm gust is maxed
JT is maxed
Quagmire is maxed
Amp is maxed
Fire pillar is maxed
Fire wall is maxed
Ice wall is maxed
Heaven drive is maxed
Stone curse is maxed

That's about it I believe.

And fire pillar...I have to disappoint you, concentration gives endure effect, and I got a few points in it...I can walk right through your pillar.

Fire pillar gets owned, but you won't be walking through since the ice wall is right in front of you. Probably going to quagmire, safety wall one square of the icewall, Storm gust:

If you hide: fire pillar, restack ice wall, heaven drive and let you pop up on fire pillar and storm gust as you can't hide while being hit rapidly from fire pillar.

if you take the hit from the storm gust: Storm gust again until you hide.

Main wepon +4 bloody Executioner.

I'm guessing you won't be using that since you can't get it?  Besides, it increases my damage by 20%.  So we'll just say you won't be using it.

You know, so far I've been going with my usual build, no modifications against you. If I did that...I can get decent mdef, aspd and hitpoints, while still keeping enough hitting power to take you out easily.

Yeah, but what kind of PvP would this be if you could reset in to a build to rape me? I call hax.
I'm sticking with this one build of mine only because I don't play High Wizard that often... this is like the only thing I can think of at the moment anyways.

And I can win by attrition easily enough...you carry quite a lot of equip, gems for fire pillars and SWs, and just a few pots will bring you well over 50% carry weight...all I have to do is to force you to keep defensive spells by running around, and let you deplete your sp...then you either have to throw away some pots, or just run for your life. In either case, you are dead.

You probably win, no doubt about it.  I already even agreed near the beginning to prove it too.  Such a sad sad miserable wizard.  I really wish some godly wizard could help this poor nub out.

Oh, I forgot...where you got me? Well...Quag, I have no defense against it. Instacast...gets annoying, but nothing more. Another problem is, we both rely on fast switching of gears here...I don'ŧ switch ED and marc fast enough, and I risk SC/Ress. I don't hide fast enough, and I get a hit of SG. Same goes for you tho...

No, I'm actually quick enough to switch between things. That's one of the things I practice before with.  Not practice even... grinded.

Edit: You know..I'd prefer to test this out in real, but unless you know the way how to run RO on Linux, I'd have to just spam the forums till I get new laptop...

I don't have RO anymore, only RO it in the forums and fool around.

As far as I know, you cannot place two IWs at same place. I will be able to get through...

Even if you do kill ONE sqaure of the ice wall, another one can be easily casted and a fire wall could be used to help.  Safety wall is there as an annoyance as well.

And last time I remember, you can't use ranged attacks through an icewall. (need someone to confirm this, I'm starting to think you can... whatever, just keep my distance.)

You know what is terrible on my behalf?  That fact that even if I do all of this, I just won't have enough SP to kill him.  So I guess I forfeit, haha.
Now stalker on the other hand... That's where my cookies are! Haha.

[Sarin]

You know what is terrible on my behalf?  That fact that even if I do all of this, I just won't have enough SP to kill him.  So I guess I forfeit, haha.[/b]
Now stalker on the other hand... That's where my cookies are! Haha.

As long as I don't have FCP

I think we can settle down on fact that while HW can annoy LK, when facing good LK he's just playing for time...

Edit: you know what would I do if I was the HW? As LK goes for sper boom, charge against him to put quag righ on him, spam a few ice walls around him, pin him down with lvl 1 SG and run for my life...

[Cerebus]

You know what is terrible on my behalf?  That fact that even if I do all of this, I just won't have enough SP to kill him.  So I guess I forfeit, haha.[/b]
Now stalker on the other hand... That's where my cookies are! Haha.

As long as I don't have FCP

I think we can settle down on fact that while HW can annoy LK, when facing good LK he's just playing for time...

Edit: you know what would I do if I was the HW? As LK goes for sper boom, charge against him to put quag righ on him, spam a few ice walls around him, pin him down with lvl 1 SG and run for my life...

By looking at your equipment, Soul Strike and Napalm Vulcan would just tear through you instead (if he has 140 dex), especially if you get cursed :/

[Sarin]

I don't think so, single target spells aren't way to go here, since spear boomerang will outrange them.

Edit: Besides, these skills have damn high delay and quite low damage. You won't hit with them for more than 3.5k/spell and with 2 sec delay of soul strike...

[Poki]

EDIT: Whatever, I decided I'm going to keep trying to annoy this LK some more.

Edit: you know what would I do if I was the HW? As LK goes for sper boom, charge against him to put quag righ on him, spam a few ice walls around him, pin him down with lvl 1 SG and run for my life...

Don't need to charge against him. Quagmire has a greater range if you include the range of the AoE. Though, what I don't seem to get is that if I could just get my hands on instant cast why don't I just cast storm gust, run and repeat. I don't expect you to kill the high wizard in 3 hits or run right through storm gust especially when an ice wall or fire wall or quagmire is placed before hand.

As long as I don't have FCP

FCP doesn't matter. Only lasts for 10 minutes. As long as I can survive (Which is easy) for 10 minutes, it'll be played to my favour.  In exchange for FCP however, I get Assmuptio ;P

I don't think so, single target spells aren't way to go here, since spear boomerang will outrange them.

Edit: Besides, these skills have damn high delay and quite low damage. You won't hit with them for more than 3.5k/spell and with 2 sec delay of soul strike...

From what I can understand... Your spear boomerang has a 1 second delay. The spear boomerang has a greater delay than Napalm vulcan.
Besides... Napalm Vulcan can curse and only takes 5 seconds to cast (Which can be lowered to instant cast easily), and only a 0.5 delay which can be lowered with Expert ring by a bit.

Though, when pneuma comes in to effect, you become rather quite useless (aside from using status effects) and leave yourself open for many hits to come.  If you fall back a bit and get out of casting range, you'll end up having a pre-set of ice wall and fire wall and quagmire as well as safety wall on the ice wall to go through with a High Wizard spamming some storm gust if you decide to try and wreak havoc to the ice walls. If not and you take a detour, the high wizard will end up casting elsewhere and running toward the opposite end or somewhere else for another set up.

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By the way:

You got Majestic goat[1]? Wow jesus.
Attack speed is greatly lowered if you're using a spear.

Noxious card ftw.
8637 HP, 2671 SP, 42 DEF (Haha, just as much defence as you and more if you include the reductions)
10% reduction from Feather Beret // or Ulle's Cap & Nightmare
10% reduction from Noxious
10% reduction from Noxious
30% reduction from Thara
?0% reduction for melee from energy coat
15% Sleep reduction from Gangster Mask
2% Stun resistance from Dark Blinder
5% resistance to the Curse, Silence, Stun, and Stone Curse status from Divine Clothes
Reduced after-cast delay by 5% and increases SP taken by all skills by 5% from Expert Ring
Reduces casting time by 10% by Orlean Set
6% Chance to put you to sleep
7+3 STR
75+18 INT
91+19 DEX
75+5 VIT
Small change to curse everyone on screen when hit physically

No idea, I just got bored so I decided to show you mine. (Should have just taken a screenshot and upload it, haha)
Though, I can expect your spear boomerang to do only so much (probably takes a lot to kill me. A lot a lot.)
You wear Evil Druid and like to take the risk of a Ygg leaf? It kills you know?  Besides, it wouldn't save you from a Demon Pungus card or a stone curse.

By the way, you can read my previous post too.  It had some stuff in it.

[Sarin]

EDIT: Whatever, I decided I'm going to keep trying to annoy this LK some more.

Edit: you know what would I do if I was the HW? As LK goes for sper boom, charge against him to put quag righ on him, spam a few ice walls around him, pin him down with lvl 1 SG and run for my life...

Don't need to charge against him. Quagmire has a greater range if you include the range of the AoE. Though, what I don't seem to get is that if I could just get my hands on instant cast why don't I just cast storm gust, run and repeat. I don't expect you to kill the high wizard in 3 hits or run right through storm gust especially when an ice wall or fire wall or quagmire is placed before hand.

As long as I don't have FCP

FCP doesn't matter. Only lasts for 10 minutes. As long as I can survive (Which is easy) for 10 minutes, it'll be played to my favour.  In exchange for FCP however, I get Assmuptio ;P

I don't think so, single target spells aren't way to go here, since spear boomerang will outrange them.

Edit: Besides, these skills have damn high delay and quite low damage. You won't hit with them for more than 3.5k/spell and with 2 sec delay of soul strike...

From what I can understand... Your spear boomerang has a 1 second delay. The spear boomerang has a greater delay than Napalm vulcan.
Besides... Napalm Vulcan can curse and only takes 5 seconds to cast (Which can be lowered to instant cast easily), and only a 0.5 delay which can be lowered with Expert ring by a bit.

Though, when pneuma comes in to effect, you become rather quite useless (aside from using status effects) and leave yourself open for many hits to come.  If you fall back a bit and get out of casting range, you'll end up having a pre-set of ice wall and fire wall and quagmire as well as safety wall on the ice wall to go through with a High Wizard spamming some storm gust if you decide to try and wreak havoc to the ice walls. If not and you take a detour, the high wizard will end up casting elsewhere and running toward the opposite end or somewhere else for another set up.

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By the way:

You got Majestic goat[1]? Wow jesus.
Attack speed is greatly lowered if you're using a spear.

Noxious card ftw.
8637 HP, 2671 SP, 42 DEF (Haha, just as much defence as you and more if you include the reductions)
10% reduction from Feather Beret // or Ulle's Cap & Nightmare
10% reduction from Noxious
10% reduction from Noxious
30% reduction from Thara
?0% reduction for melee from energy coat
15% Sleep reduction from Gangster Mask
2% Stun resistance from Dark Blinder
5% resistance to the Curse, Silence, Stun, and Stone Curse status from Divine Clothes
Reduced after-cast delay by 5% and increases SP taken by all skills by 5% from Expert Ring
Reduces casting time by 10% by Orlean Set
6% Chance to put you to sleep
7+3 STR
75+18 INT
91+19 DEX
75+5 VIT
Small change to curse everyone on screen when hit physically

No idea, I just got bored so I decided to show you mine. (Should have just taken a screenshot and upload it, haha)
Though, I can expect your spear boomerang to do only so much (probably takes a lot to kill me. A lot a lot.)
You wear Evil Druid and like to take the risk of a Ygg leaf? It kills you know?  Besides, it wouldn't save you from a Demon Pungus card or a stone curse.

By the way, you can read my previous post too.  It had some stuff in it.

So, one by one....

The charge was to get quag a bit behind LK too, otherwise it is too easy to hit the brakes, turn around and approach from different angle.

10 minutes hide'n seek? Good luck, can get kinda annoying.

Did I say anything about instacast? Nah...without external help it is impossible to get on normal 99/70 server for a HW.

Haven'ŧ we gone through this quite a few times? Spear Boom has higher range than one-target spells, no cast time. I can use it from max range, run a bit away and repeat. And those statuses ARE the purpose of spear booming...so pneuma is useless there.

Does SW on one piece of Ice Wall affect whole wall? I don't think so. And...you know, win by attrition. You will eventually deplete your sp. I am not very afraid of your statuses...chances are low, especially against 100 vit. Also, I can carry some additional headgears too...more easily than you actually. And ED DOES prevent Stone Curse, that is why I use it. Didn't we clarify those yggs before? when in casting range, and not on melee, I use Marc. Besides, your build has approx. 75% reduction of cast time, long enough for me to actually avoid ress by hiding. Speaking about cast time...please, stick to your build there. You talked twice about instacast, when you don't have it.

I think I clarified my build here (too much, actually). I use MG[1] if I manage to get it, otherwise I stick to +7 helm[1].
That 42 def I have is cause of def reduction by concentration.

And the more I know about your build, the less I am afraid actually...dude, where's your int? I doubt you would actually be able to seriously hurt me...you can survive more than most other HWs, but...

Keep trying man...
You know...with such skill you would be able to kill like 70% of LKs I met. But that's because LK is one of classes most played by noobs, after SinX.

Wait...this turned into "how can HW annoy LK" from "how can HW kill LK"...wanna go on?

[fluidin]

Eh. You guys allow speed pots? And only using decent level gears eh.

If all kinds of gear except for MVP cards, god items and the likes is allowed, the Hwiz would be at more of an advantage than the LK I suppose :X I played in a HR 99/70 with custom normal drop rates and 1x MVP drop rates, no customs, some of those Hwiz's I encountered were damn dangerous. Near instant-cast, low delay, extremely high MATK, my LK managed to get hit for around 6k per SG? Of course, I wasn't MDEF geared, but meh.


Hmm, thinking back, he probably had Poem, his skills were flying all over the place, and in the midst of that I still got JT-ed multiple times -.-

[Poki]

10 minutes hide'n seek? Good luck, can get kinda annoying.

I don't run and hide for 10 minutes as a stalker.  I'm somewhat brave.  So I won't be that annoying.

Haven'ŧ we gone through this quite a few times? Spear Boom has higher range than one-target spells, no cast time. I can use it from max range, run a bit away and repeat. And those statuses ARE the purpose of spear booming...so pneuma is useless there.

Though, when pneuma comes in to effect, you become rather quite useless (aside from using status effects) and leave yourself open for many hits to come.

by storm gust that is.  And status effects are already taken care of as stated in previous posts.

Besides, your build has approx. 75% reduction of cast time, long enough for me to actually avoid ress by hiding. Speaking about cast time...please, stick to your build there. You talked twice about instacast, when you don't have it.

Right, I keep forgetting.  I don't have the right buffs and stat food isn't allowed.

Does SW on one piece of Ice Wall affect whole wall? I don't think so

I can cast multiple safety walls too you know.  Besides, it shouldn't bother me that much when I can spend the time casting Storm Gust and push you around while it somewhat prevents you from attacking the ice wall.

And ED DOES prevent Stone Curse, that is why I use it. Didn't we clarify those yggs before? when in casting range, and not on melee, I use Marc.

Hmm, I always thought that it doesn't prevent stone curse... and I am a complete idiot about the yggs.  Totally forgotten about your statement for it.

And the more I know about your build, the less I am afraid actually...dude, where's your int? Cheesy I doubt you would actually be able to seriously hurt me...you can survive more than most other HWs, but...

Pure int wizards die too easily in PvP.  If I were to PvP you, I would never ever use full int on a 1v1 battle.

Wait...this turned into "how can HW annoy LK" from "how can HW kill LK"...wanna go on?

By annoying I meant trying to be stubborn and think of possibilities to kill you.
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By the way, when you are behind my ice wall where you can't spear me, how do we decide when you run out of healing items?  Because I will not give you time to break free and continue to spam icewall, quagmire, firewall, storm gust, and amplify on you.  I don't think you have enough pots to outlast my SP? (I carry more SP items than actual healing items for I use the SP for Vitata card to heal HP)

[Sarin]

You know...I actually don't have to step in single of your SGs. To win by attrition, all I have to do is to be somewhere around, forcing you to keep defense...just here and there I poke your wall, looking if there is an opening...and by the way, three normal white pots are for me enough to take your SG long enough to run away from it...

One thing you haven't said yet that plays important part...how far from you do you set up ice walls, are you in corner or in the open?

And...how many SWs can you actually keep? I think I've seen around 15 done by HW, but those were lvl10 and he had to constantly renew them...lvl4, well, they have higher cast time and lower duration, I think you won'ŧ be able to pull out more than 7-8. That is not enough for complete coverage. Besides, once I force you to use SG, some SWs will fall during casting and will let me to cut through while you suffer cooldown from SG. Another thing is attrition, you can have only limited supply of blue gems.

One thing I dunno if I recall correctly...can skills be used on IW? If they can, I can weaken SW by spear boom so I will be able to cut through with single slash...

[Poki]

You know...I actually don't have to step in single of your SGs.

You're not given the option to either step in or stay out.  You're already in it when I'm casting it.

To win by attrition, all I have to do is to be somewhere around, forcing you to keep defense...

Probably not the best idea.  I too will be somewhere else if you're going to go off screen like that.  Next thing you know, we may never ever find each other again.  Basically, I will not stay and continue to spam and waste my SP if I know you're not there.

just here and there I poke your wall, looking if there is an opening...and by the way, three normal white pots are for me enough to take your SG long enough to run away from it...

if you're going to be poking my icewall, you will certainly be feeling my storm gust.
Three normal white pots? That's only 1200 you know? Not only that, that's only ONE hit from storm gust... Not even one hit, that's only a third of a hit. I'm pretty sure you'll take more than one hit just to run away from it.

One thing you haven't said yet that plays important part...how far from you do you set up ice walls, are you in corner or in the open?

I've been too use to Izlude being the PvP map. Especially at the middle of Izlude.  How far am I from the ice walls? I'm normally the furthest I can but still able to see on screen.  Simply because it only takes 2 to block a path in Izlude, leaving many more ice walls as back-up such as you coming from the other side.

And...how many SWs can you actually keep? I think I've seen around 15 done by HW, but those were lvl10 and he had to constantly renew them...lvl4, well, they have higher cast time and lower duration, I think you won'ŧ be able to pull out more than 7-8. That is not enough for complete coverage.

I only need to place 3 ice walls to be exact.  You have a total of 8 directions to walk toward.  Ice wall is most likely to be in front of you so therefore, I only need to place a safety wall in front, top left, and top right of you. for a short while just to stall a bit.  Aside from that, Safety Wall is not that important in stalling.  I can just simply cast storm gust around the area and spam heaven drive.

Besides, once I force you to use SG, some SWs will fall during casting and will let me to cut through while you suffer cooldown from SG. Another thing is attrition, you can have only limited supply of blue gems.

It's fine, I don't carry that many blue gems since safety wall is only used if the opponent does what I want.  Anyways, seeing as you basically stated that you will try to cut down the ice wall during the storm gust,  that sounds like to me that you're going to take all the hits from the storm gust.
Next thing you know, the cool down from storm gust is not that bad because the duration of storm gust is 5 seconds and it only takes 4.75 seconds to re-cast it again or cast another skill because of my expert ring.
Therefore, as you may choose to do whatever you want during the storm gust, I may immediately re-buff my ice walls back again.  And as said, if you run away, I too, will run away and never ever show my face again.