help me think pls.... its much appriciated

[denymehow]

so... guys i was hoping you could help me out..
give me your best 7vs7 no repetition of jobs and no using linkers skill unless
there is a linker in  your party same goes for other skills
so the available items are no goldy/mvp
normal vset is in hand except for v helm and why you pick those jobs

my party

Prof,Pally,Creator, Champ. High Priest, Clown, High Wiz

you think its a possible win?
BTW its 99/70 all normal cards is pretty much reachable  

[fluidin]

Good enough.

Could think of using a SinX if the Champ isn't very good at playing his class. Otherwise, a pretty standard 7v7 setup.

[Orange]

I'd probably go with a sinx over champ.

My team would be-
Creator, Sinx, Prof, Pally, Priest, Sniper, And if it's woe settings whitesmith, If not linker.

OR
sinx, sinx, sinx, sinx, sinx, sinx, linker

You know it would win.

[fluidin]

Orange, no Clown?

[Orange]

Orange, no Clown?

None. >:3

But yeah OP's list is good, Besides sinx > champ imo

[denymehow]

even if sinx has no link sinx>champ?
BTW its woe settings.. i cant figure out what sinx do in party vs party because of SG, Aspersio and having no link
they cant barely kill a wiz if have no link
can you give a info about land pro.. how to remove them.
and how to deal with wiz standing in land pro

[Orange]

can you give a info about land pro.. how to remove them.
and how to deal with wiz standing in land pro

Casting land protector ontop of another will remove it.

In WoE settings I'd say you might as well go champ, No backslide and almost impossible to 1HKO someone(or even 2/3 if they're pot spamming) with sinx while the only downside to a champ in woe is interpretable.
Also, If you're vs'ing pros they will probably hide asura >:3

With asperio, Use converters if they're available ? D:

[Sarin]

even if sinx has no link sinx>champ?
BTW its woe settings.. i cant figure out what sinx do in party vs party because of SG, Aspersio and having no link
they cant barely kill a wiz if have no link

I feel offended No, really, a good SinX can do much more than just EDP linked SB. If they don't forget a bit of agi, they can grimtooth the hell out of wiz and such before they remember on what hotkey is their heaven's drive. A good, I repeat GOOD sinX is hard to neutralize, and can do decent amount of damage under all circumstances except for being stripped...but you have creator, right?

And a little edit. For me, as experienced SinX, Wiz on a LP translates as squishy. Wiz is usually totally dependant on protective spells like Pneuma or Safety wall, and those are cancelled by LP.

[fluidin]

I would go for the Champ if he's damn skilled though. And yes, SinXs are still lethal even without Link.

Land Pro.. ganban+quag/sg. Or overlap LP.

And no clown is baaaad. Against another party with a Clown, you're going to cry. Their prof will be disabling your team faster than your own can counter. And that's not the worst of your troubles.

[Sarin]

So...Paladin for insane tanking abilites, and Gospel. Creator to negate enemy Stalkers, and AD rain. Clown-Bragi, Tarot sometimes (as long as you has sp and fast fingers, you can keep both). SinX-Both parties are likely to dig in and precast heavily, and it is SinX's shady presence that can break their formation and open them up for attack. HP-no comment. Prof-Tactical skills. Last slot-depends on style of combat. HW for quagmire and generally defensive  position, Champ or WS for assault, linker as another support class and precast breaker-hey, getting good linker is hard, but they're win.

Stalkers are useless once enemy has Creator to FCP. LKs are for big wars, smaller parties aren't so good for them. Snipers-traps and good ranged damage, but too squishy...there are better classes. If you have linker, you can replace your Clown with Gypsy, Slow Grace is great too. And gypsy is a wee little bit better (stat bonuses) if we make all songs available via link (and looks a lot beter).

[fluidin]

Paladin for devotion actually.

I will keep the clown, since if the linker dies and he's dispelled... Skilled HWs and Champs are also devastating.

[Relics]

Paladin - Should have no weapon, devo up 24/7, bragi'd pressure on wizzies/profs to gimp them and possibly create a hole in their def.

Clown - 24/7 bragi, time your apples whenever people need it.. also check. is unfrozen allowed? is the opposite team's creator dead or has no creator at all? > frost joker here and there but keep bragi up.

Champion - emphasize on errors, efist things that need to be taken down.

High priest - stays in the back, buff accordingly (is sump allowed?) heal accordingly, STATUS RECO

Creator - lol AD, to tell you the truth creator is 0P if you can have loads of bottles.., heal and sp too sometimes but mostly just AD'ing the s*** out of the other team.

High wiz - Storm gust to put pressure on the other team, possibly ganbant dance no weap their LP though very hard to pull off effectively.  

Prof - Land protect, land protect, land protect. Disable incoming champs, dispell pallies, but more importantly land protect.

can't think of anything else atm ;/ other than.. the team you gave us is what i'd do too.. unless bottles are limited to like 10 pieces.

[fluidin]

Add:

Creator - Plant  parasites on yourself/prof (if the prof plays offensively) to avoid easy asuras/ADs.
Prof - Offensive web+dispels if your team has the upper hand in pressuring.

[denymehow]

Sorry Sarin im Just asking  
im guessing that your a skilled sinx?
in my server 7vs7 they dont believe in sinx no more because of sg they limit the area where assassins should cloak and all they know is SB type
they forgot about grimtooth

to others

im kinda noob at these but
casting land pro on the already casted land pro will cancel land pro??  
sorry guys im not pro in RO so im asking you guys...

and Pally should devo all 5 players?? what do you think?? if not
w/c job should pally devo and w/c is not to be devo

tnx guys for taking time reading my post

[fluidin]

Devo 4 jobs.

So that the paladin can constantly respam devotion on any of the 4 members in case of dispel. Note: you cannot respam devotion if 5 players are already being devoted.

Devote:
Hwiz
Clown
Creo

Personally, I will devo the champ if he's extremely skilled. Most people would likely choose the prof though.

[denymehow]

devo can be dispelled??? really??
Posted on: Aug 18, 2009, 01:47 amdevo can be dispelled?? really??

[fluidin]

Yes it can.

[Relics]

Sorry Sarin im Just asking  
im guessing that your a skilled sinx?
in my server 7vs7 they dont believe in sinx no more because of sg they limit the area where assassins should cloak and all they know is SB type
they forgot about grimtooth

to others

im kinda noob at these but
casting land pro on the already casted land pro will cancel land pro??  
sorry guys im not pro in RO so im asking you guys...

and Pally should devo all 5 players?? what do you think?? if not
w/c job should pally devo and w/c is not to be devo

tnx guys for taking time reading my post

Soulbreak bragi is painful too, but champion is obviously a better pick. If you cast land protect on another land protect and LP/delu/volc/wind somewhere else, the enemies LP will be gone. Only devo champ when he tries to advance and take somebody out which means he has to walk over to the other team's LP and whatnot. A good team takes note of this and dispells incoming champions.

[Omi]

Paladin - Gospel, Devo Clown, Prof, Hwiz, Crea.
Creator - PP, Parasyte, AD, if possible fireblend for Para AC.  FCP if really needed, but stalkers would die instantly.
Clown - ASPD + Bragi tag, tarot only after immediate tags, FJ.
HWiz - Ganb, Quaq, Stone curse, precast MS spam on enemy LP zone.
SinX - High ASPD EDP Grim / throw venom knife, stay within LP at all times, curse arrow lock chars.
Prof - LP, Web, Dispell, Soul Burn / Exhale, stone curse, endow parasytes if possible, lp enemy during precast.
Priest - Ruwach, Puenma, heal spam paladin, stat reco, buff, suff spam high wiz during precast.

[Sarin]

Dispell is actually one thing why you should take SinX. If dispelled, just pop another awake pot and you're good to go again. He can also use enemy LP to his advantage. Hide on the far edge of it and grim, then only way to get him out is to come with sight/ruwach, likely making them break the formation and expose them to attack. LP is anyway a little wquestionable....while it stops from AoE stuff, it opens your party to physical attacks, because you can't use SW/pneuma on it (well you can, but they won't work).