Different Questions on Different Jobs

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fluidin

#15
1h Quicken works for daggers as well... >.>

EDIT: Wait, or did it? It's been almost 2 years since I last played a Knight, someone check this out and clarify it here please.
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Patrick

QuoteOne-Hand Quicken - Spirit Skill (Must be Soul Linked) (Skill ID# 495)
Type: Active    Max Level: 1
SP Cost: 100
Target: Self
Cast Time: Instant    After Cast Delay: 1 sec
Duration: 300 sec
Required Weapon Class: One-Handed Sword
Effect: Decreases weapon swing delay with one-handed swords by 30%. Cancels the effect of any ASPD Potion when used, however you may use any such potion AFTER casting. This skill only works with One-Hand Sword class weapons and the effect cancels when switching to any other type.


1 more question about that CK.

QuoteCombat Knife   
  •    [One Hand]   Item ID# 1228 (Combat_Knife)
    Type    Weapon    Class    Dagger    Buy    n/a    Sell    10z    Weight    40
    Attack    80   Required Lvl    36   Weapon Lvl    4   Slot    0   
    Applicable Jobs   
       Swordman       Mage       Archer       Merchant       Thief       Knight
       Wizard       Blacksmith       Hunter       Assassin       Crusader       Sage
       Rogue       Alchemist       Bard / Dancer       Soul Linker       Ninja
    Description    Military combat knife made for battles against DemiHuman monster.
    Add a 10% resistance against DemiHuman monster, but increases damage received from Demon monster by 10%.
    Pierces Defense of DemiHuman monster.
    Item Script   { bonus bIgnoreDefRace,RC_DemiHuman; bonus2 bSubRace,RC_DemiHuman,10; bonus2 bSubRace,RC_Demon,-10; },{},{}
    Dropped By   
       Sniper Shecil / Sniper Cecil
    (100%)
I think Executioner Is better.

Aragorn

Quote from: Sarin on Jul 08, 2008, 08:35 PM
+10 tri bloody boned katana or executioner.
stupid... tri bloody doesn't stack... (>.>)

hey what are all these stupid f*** scribbles on your test?
OH BAKA SENSEI THAT'S NIHONGO

RULE 1:
Every post that disagrees to the previous to Aragorn is a flame or insult.

Loki

Quote from: Aragorn on Jul 12, 2008, 05:41 AM
Quote from: Sarin on Jul 08, 2008, 08:35 PM
+10 tri bloody boned katana or executioner.
stupid... tri bloody doesn't stack... (>.>)

Interesting news...Since when? And proof plx!
QuoteWhatever floats your boat.

Sarin

Dunno where do you get such nonsenses. It stacks and always did.

Patrick

LOL! If triple bloody dosent stack, why does people use them in the first place? Then if that dosent stack, people are dumb. And where did you get that quote? That post dosent belong here, maybe you found it on another topic  :P
Well back on main topic, I already made my 2 Lord Knights. If possible I am making another and combining them into a Hybrid type. but I have one problem,
AGI or VIT or BOTH?
AGI OR VIT? You decide. The future of my Hybrid Lk depends on it

Relics

Quote from: Patrick on Jul 12, 2008, 11:38 AM
LOL! If triple bloody dosent stack, why does people use them in the first place? Then if that dosent stack, people are dumb. And where did you get that quote? That post dosent belong here, maybe you found it on another topic  :P
Well back on main topic, I already made my 2 Lord Knights. If possible I am making another and combining them into a Hybrid type. but I have one problem,
AGI or VIT or BOTH?
AGI OR VIT? You decide. The future of my Hybrid Lk depends on it

Go for VIT.

What's the chance of cornering an opponent and then spamming bowling bash on them? you'll probably end up in a situation where you bowling bash, opponent gets knocked back, you chase and bowling bash again. The time you've done that, no matter what your ASPD is, that amount of AGI you invested on your stats wouldn't of helped..


Quote from: Aragorn on Jul 12, 2008, 05:41 AM
Quote from: Sarin on Jul 08, 2008, 08:35 PM
+10 tri bloody boned katana or executioner.
stupid... tri bloody doesn't stack... (>.>)

Triple racial does stack, quad racial on the other hand seems to be outclassed by [3 racial and 1 size].. while 2 racial 2 size is outclassed by 3 racial 1 size.
o_o

Aragorn

Quote from: Loki on Jul 12, 2008, 07:26 AM
Quote from: Aragorn on Jul 12, 2008, 05:41 AM
Quote from: Sarin on Jul 08, 2008, 08:35 PM
+10 tri bloody boned katana or executioner.
stupid... tri bloody doesn't stack... (>.>)

Interesting news...Since when? And proof plx!
bcuz i said so... (>.>)

hey what are all these stupid f*** scribbles on your test?
OH BAKA SENSEI THAT'S NIHONGO

RULE 1:
Every post that disagrees to the previous to Aragorn is a flame or insult.

fluidin

#23
Quote from: Relics on Jul 12, 2008, 08:20 PM
Quote from: Patrick on Jul 12, 2008, 11:38 AM
LOL! If triple bloody dosent stack, why does people use them in the first place? Then if that dosent stack, people are dumb. And where did you get that quote? That post dosent belong here, maybe you found it on another topic  :P
Well back on main topic, I already made my 2 Lord Knights. If possible I am making another and combining them into a Hybrid type. but I have one problem,
AGI or VIT or BOTH?
AGI OR VIT? You decide. The future of my Hybrid Lk depends on it

Go for VIT.

What's the chance of cornering an opponent and then spamming bowling bash on them? you'll probably end up in a situation where you bowling bash, opponent gets knocked back, you chase and bowling bash again. The time you've done that, no matter what your ASPD is, that amount of AGI you invested on your stats wouldn't of helped..

I would say go for both. BB spammage is for defending in WoE. For example, when the enemy guild goes into the emp room together, and 50 people are on the same tile :/ The amount of AGI invested does help, it's called DPS.

Quote from: Relics on Jul 12, 2008, 08:20 PM
Quote from: Aragorn on Jul 12, 2008, 05:41 AM
stupid... tri bloody doesn't stack... (>.>)
Triple racial does stack, quad racial on the other hand seems to be outclassed by [3 racial and 1 size].. while 2 racial 2 size is outclassed by 3 racial 1 size.
o_o

This depends on one's stats. If 140 DEX or more or something (can't really remember) for a Sniper, 2 racial 2 size. If 120 DEX or less, 3 racial 1 size. Just go play with a calculator if you really want accurate answers :/
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Patrick

#24
So does that mean I use this build?
STR - 94+ 26
AGI - 52+ 8
VIT - 54+ 8
INT - 22+2 (SP Regen Bonus)
DEX - 61+ 9

HP 19.3k
SP 522

Damage on a low VIT Player
3k x 2 = 6k

Damage on a average VIT Player
2.5k x 2= 5k

Damage on a High VIT player
1.5~2k x 2 = 3k~4k

Damage on a low VIT Player
3k x 2 = 6k x 0.75 = 4.5k

Damage on a average VIT Player
2.5k x 2= 5kx0.75 = 3570

Damage on a High VIT player
1.5~2k x 2 = 3k~4kx0.75= 2250~3k

Note: I only calculated this with a person without any neutral reduction except GR

Want to calculate a damage of BB with a
115% Reduction against demi-human person(F.Beret (10%), Thara Frog (30%) and Raydric (20%)with GR(75%)?
[damage seen on screen x 2(If 2handed)x0.6]x[damage seen on screen x 2(If 2handed)x0.75]
Example a High VIT Person comes and duel you
1.5~2k x 2 = 3k~4kx0.60= 900~1200 x 0.75 = 675~900
Lol Pretty much you cant do anything about it since everyone in WoE has neutral reduction.
But since you are using an Executioner VIT dosent matter LOL

If you say that this build if good enough I am thinking of making a WS now ;D

Sarin

That build actually sucks. Hard.

130 str without bless is a must for offensive type LK. Screw agi and int, you'll use RJs at WoE. Dex 60 total, that's enough with Concentration. Just bash flee chars till they stun.

Weapon...+10 tri bloody boned katana for start, then start getting stuff for Executioners...at least +4 bloody Executioner is best weapon you can get. You'll be doing 9k BB w/o reductions.

Err, you haven't played RO for long, did you? There's a little thingy called "elemental converters" that allows you to change your attack element.

Patrick

#26
 ??? LOL This is a hybrid Lord Knight. I need AGI for my secret attack.
Hmm lets say Your opponent is Freezed and I use Wind Endow and Provoke then BB them.
Hmm I have been playing RO for the past 4 years now and I know a lot about Ragnarok.
The reason I have agi is that to get 180+ is to use Atroce Blade to destroy the enemy's armor and then make them freeze.
You are telling me to do this build?
STR 94+36
VIT 92+8
DEX 51+ 9
But how do you get 130 STR without buffs?
What is RJ?
So thats 2 votes for VIT
and 1 vote for both

fluidin

RJ is Royal Jellies.

Try something like:
STR: 120
VIT: 100
DEX: 60
Rest to AGI

DPS matters.
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Sarin

#28
Quote from: Patrick on Jul 13, 2008, 04:58 AM
Hmm I have been playing RO for the past 4 years now and I know a lot about Ragnarok.

Made me laugh. Sorry pal, but your questions raise but one my question. WHERE?

RJ stands for Royal Jelly. Easily obtainable hp/sp and status recovery item.
So, if I get it correctly. You intend to break enemy's armor with Atroce Blade, then use Sasquatch to freeze him and then using wind endowed 3bloody boned katana to kill? By the way, Provoke breaks freeze. And...this might work...for 1 hour max, unless playing against total noobs. People aren't mindless mobs, they will realize what you're trying to do. But if you insist...I'd suggest you pure VIT/AGI/DEX, and let your teammates do the killing.
I did said it once. Food will help you get 130 str. Either +3 or +5, these are easily obtainable.

Edit: I checked Atroce Blade for breaking chance...1%, far too small to make this effective.

Patrick

I used the RMS Test Server and you know what Provoke dosent break freeze. About that Atroce Blade, 1% is all I need because I have 182 aspd.
Well if you want lets battle if you want. Name your server. Or if you want teach me how to be a good LK because in my 4 years of playing, I only played on summers because of school.