RO Private Server these days

[Mary Magdalene]

So what's with RO servers these days? Most of em gives too much freebies and sometimes, if a player didn't got what he wanted (particularly on freebies) they'll quit nor even start complaining and say ' this RO sucks! ' lol

More like being a bias is one effective way to get players now? @_@

[Bells]

I know! I don't offer freebies on my server because I think it takes away from the game itself, and a couple times a day I'll have a player who turns up, asks for freebies, then leaves when there aren't any. :| Half the fun of the game is working to get what you want, in my opinion. The "freebie culture" is breeding a new species of player that requires instant gratification, and this is harmful to the Ragnarok Online community as a whole.

[Mary Magdalene]

Oh right, RO servers now is all about how good the freebies is lol

That's seriously ridiculous XD

EDIT: I'd also say 80% of RO players now are lazy asses and depends on what freebies the RO got

[Perry the Platypus]

Part of this is probably because of how often players hop to a new server in general. They've played so many servers before, they want to have an easier time getting into the new one so they can just get to the "fun part" of late-game activities.

My server does have a set of freebies, but not nearly to the degree of other servers. We just give some basic items like a few starter gears for farming.


I find it particularly interesting to see people complaining about this on my server, since we're a super high rate and it's already pretty easy to get most stuff LOL. Players are just used to other servers spoon-feeding them now, though, so that's what they expect from everyone else. Personally I don't have much concern for people who leave because we're not the same as every other server - the whole point in making a server was for it to be different, and I think that's something every other server needs to keep in mind as well. What players expect isn't always what's best.

[Mary Magdalene]

Any high rate / super high rate servers don't even need freebies anymore tho or should i say there's really no need for freebies in any style of RO, but yeah freebies for hunting is more than enough. I can even start with just a simple knife [3] and cotton shirts, with that it doesn't break my gaming and challenge.

It's very hard to find players who seeks challenge on the server, thus those ' spoon-feed me please ' players are the ones changing your RO's style of gaming to the point that they want it exactly as they want, or else quit lol

[Yozakura]

The only freebies new players really need are novice potions. Any more than that is ugh.

Also, isn't EVERYTHING (except maybe OP donor gear) practically freebies in SHRs? I guess it's too much effort for these players, gotta hand it to them from the very start eh?

[Suspension]

Part of this is probably because of how often players hop to a new server in general. They've played so many servers before, they want to have an easier time getting into the new one so they can just get to the "fun part" of late-game activities.

This just resumes what's happening.

To be honest, RO is an old game and we're not 15 years old with that much free time anymore. But, truth be told, "freebies" is not the way to go.

I'd rather go with algorithmic drops with somehow "high" rates for what it's a low rate. I feel it really weird that every server boosts experience rate and not drops rate, making the fun part (leveling, getting new skills and partying) go too fast and making the boring part (getting equipment, cards, etc) even more boring. Basically, you level up a character to get gear instead of the other way around.

[Perry the Platypus]

Also, isn't EVERYTHING (except maybe OP donor gear) practically freebies in SHRs? I guess it's too much effort for these players, gotta hand it to them from the very start eh?

Not necessarily, depends on how the server is set up. Most of the "main" gear/items are really easy to get, but I still like having the option to get slightly better equips by putting a bit of effort in. Lazy/casual players can still PvP/BG/WoE effectively without putting too much effort into gearing up, while other players who don't mind doing some larger quests or otherwise putting time into their build can get a slight edge.

[Mary Magdalene]

Not necessarily, depends on how the server is set up. Most of the "main" gear/items are really easy to get, but I still like having the option to get slightly better equips by putting a bit of effort in. Lazy/casual players can still PvP/BG/WoE effectively without putting too much effort into gearing up, while other players who don't mind doing some larger quests or otherwise putting time into their build can get a slight edge.

Reminds me of that SHR server named Hyo-RO with max level of 5000 lol

And still it's challenging because the quest requirements of the custom items really just matches with the server's rate and set up.

But generally speaking, i guess majority of people who wants OP freebies are at 255/100 servers.

[wpcarlos]

There is a particular group of people, or a nationality, that likes freebies and begging for items but I won't name it. Not being racist but it's simply a fact that it is engraved on their online gaming culture.

[Judgement]

Well when the average life span of a server is 3 months people tend to not want to grind the same garbage they've been doing for the last 10 years.  This is why mid+ rates have been so popular.

There is a particular group of people, or a nationality, that likes freebies and begging for items but I won't name it. Not being racist but it's simply a fact that it is engraved on their online gaming culture.

Those group probably has more underage players or something then  (I see lots of begging in Runescape which is mostly American and European players).  I've seen plenty of BRs/Pinoys who would grind like as if it was their job.

[Mary Magdalene]

And probably i guess when people think about it's a " private server ", items and stuffs should be easy and free (of course compared to official servers)

[Nitrate]

There's just too many servers active right now. Players are torn between which servers to play, and server owners are trying to bait players by these stupid freebies that doesn't really help the server in the long run.

I really hate how easy it is to make your own server nowadays, the amount of incompetent admins or staff out there right now is too darn high. I really miss the better times where there were limited number of servers that you can actually choose from because it actually takes skills and proper knowledge to make a server.

[Mary Magdalene]

There's just too many servers active right now. Players are torn between which servers to play, and server owners are trying to bait players by these stupid freebies that doesn't really help the server in the long run.

I really hate how easy it is to make your own server nowadays, the amount of incompetent admins or staff out there right now is too darn high. I really miss the better times where there were limited number of servers that you can actually choose from because it actually takes skills and proper knowledge to make a server.

IMO it's also because those incompetent admins just think about money.

That's very common now these days, that admins only make RO server because they think they'll make lots of money from it.

[Perry the Platypus]

IMO it's also because those incompetent admins just think about money.

That's very common now these days, that admins only make RO server because they think they'll make lots of money from it.

^ This. The amount of people I've had that were surprised when I wouldn't let them donate for a GM position or some kind of overpowered/unobtainable item is...slightly concerning to me. Doesn't surprise me at all that they'd ask, but it's worrying when they're surprised that I say no.