RO Private Server these days

[Blinzer]

I wonder how many of you would actually take the time to try to find a server that is not like that.

[Nitrate]

I wonder how many of you would actually take the time to try to find a server that is not like that.

@Blinzer
It was never mentioned in this thread that there are no proper private servers these days. We know that we can still find good servers out there. The discussion now is how "most" private servers are like this, what aspects affect these severs, etc.

On topic:

I really would love to see the day when RMS would start to regulate private server listing and give priority to those servers that had actually stood for a long time instead of newly formed ones. Maybe add a filter that would tag a certain server as a new one or an old one, with wipes taken into consideration.

[Zia]

with wipes taken into consideration.

This.

[Triper]

I really would love to see the day when RMS would start to regulate private server listing and give priority to those servers that had actually stood for a long time instead of newly formed ones. Maybe add a filter that would tag a certain server as a new one or an old one, with wipes taken into consideration.

Sort by date already exists on RMS listings, at least I think that you're talking about the "Sort Results By: Date Posted", but if you think that it can be improved, you can suggest it to yC at http://forum.ratemyserver.net/suggestionsrequests/

[Mary Magdalene]

I hope I'll see a description on a new private server that do not offer freebies / guild package or probably has considerable freebies like potions only lol.

[ Or probably there are some but I'm just too busy to search em ]

I really would love to see the day when RMS would start to regulate private server listing and give priority to those servers that had actually stood for a long time instead of newly formed ones.

And +1 for this

[dreamzky]

Damn interesting topic. Make rms account, so that i can reply on this.

For the first time i play this game, it already stuck in my heart. Make me want to play ro more and more. But due to my busy life (damn school), i missed it. So after few years, im back and it already dead (not really, but with emergence of so damn many bots and inflation zeny, i consider it dead already). College time, i tried my first private server. i feel so cool playing it that time. but again quit due to busy in college . Then renewal, 3rd job coming. My first thought > New update. Cool! I want play it again. So i started play it again. Now, i playing it awhile, then quit, search new pserver again. So, basically i play alot of pserver already. I still cant find good pserver for me. Even now, i keep search good pserver in rms once and awhile.

K done with the introduction    . My point is all pserver is the same. Thats why i only playing it awhile, then quit, search new pserver again. No pserver that can attract me for more than 2 weeks. I really want to play ro, but there is no trigger factor to play it again. For me that trigger factor are:

1. New update
All pserver almost the same. No new mobs. The different is renewal and pre-renewal only. There is no totally new update. Like from pre-renewal to renewal (although that renewal totally messed up  ), but that also make me want to play it more. Even other games, waht u want the most is new update content.  Not just some remake new town, skill balancing (damn, it important also!), or same mobs with new colour.

2. Gameplay availability
First, in terms of solo or party mobbing. I more prefer solo mobbing, but sometimes i like party with other player also. In pserver, what i can say, low rate= party playing (u cant survive without party like lvling in cursed abbey), high rate = solo playing (why party if can solo). Second, in terms of mvp and unbalance class. I really want mvp that easy to kill while in party (Not too easy like in renewal, normal atk also can kill it), and also can be solo but much harder and take longer time to kill (Not too hard, 1 hit kill, atleast can tank it. I think it can be achieved if mvp deals dmg based on %hp). Each account also should be limit on mvp. Why the f*** same ppl keep killing mvp non-stop just because he/she more stronger than others? Thats 1 more reason why ppl keep change to new pserver just to conquer it. Myb they can kill it, but make item from mvp lootable 1 time only by that same ppl. Mvp will spawn back if item doesnt being loot. It giv more chance for other ppl to kill it.

3. End game content
First, lvling and then mvp. Some pserver has some crazy quest just to get 1 eq for end game, like 1000 fluffy , or some pserver need rare mvp eq just to kill noob mvp. How the heck we get it if we cant even kill mvp that had it?  Low tier mvp should be manageable to kill and drop item to make greater eq to farm high tier mvp, or just make some eq droppable by mini boss or normal mobs.

4. Donation
Always overpower! Just make unnecessary items,such as bubble gums as donation item also ok. Please stop making end game item as donation item, stop it! Well, it include all those extreme +100 all stat wing in midrate server

Damn, freebies we all  freebies. Why so many ppl hate it?    Just dont make it too overpower or affect end game playing.  I got so many more in my mind, but lost it while typing all this. Sorry, for my noob english

[Mary Magdalene]

Damn, freebies we all  freebies. Why so many ppl hate it? Just dont make it too overpower or affect end game playing.

Yeah it's very obvious that players loves freebies but personally for me as a server admin, i really hate giving out any kind of freebies because they should learn how to make their own items. And isn't hunting one of the cool things you could do on playing RO (cause for me it is)? Get motivated, hunt your stuff and get strong (though there's lots of reasons to get motivated). And generally speaking we're talking about private servers here where most items are easy to get besides official server rates.

And also, like Nitrate said:

server owners are trying to bait players by these stupid freebies

I could say another reason why admins are just giving away OP stuff.

[Irreverence]

Freebies are popular because most of the guys who have been playing RO for 8+ years can't honestly be f*** to start from 0 every single time. I hate freebies as well, so I don't give 'em out with the exception of noob leveling gear to get a fresh guy started. I think excessive freebies or "Ready to PvP/WoE" s*** breeds casual gamers and s*** PvPers.

[Terpsichore]

Official "freebies" already exist, namely Eden Group gear, preceded by Novice Grounds stuff.

Both are default in renewal but could be adapted for pre-renewal as well, which would be a better solution than just outright giving free gear.

[Turtle]

Servers that want to make a quick buck, it also has to do with the target audience RO attracts, and well they love freebies.

Go look at any RO server facebook/social media pages and see how many "Ano po freebies dito?" "is there freebies here?" "Freebies?" you see. Heh, boils down to bad admins and a toxic playerbase overall.

[Mary Magdalene]

I think excessive freebies or "Ready to PvP/WoE" s*** breeds casual gamers and s*** PvPers.

Lol this, and once they lost the PVP they gonna go quit and say GM is being a bias lol.

Official "freebies" already exist, namely Eden Group gear, preceded by Novice Grounds stuff.

Both are default in renewal but could be adapted for pre-renewal as well, which would be a better solution than just outright giving free gear.

It's official server after all besides, i think the eden group gear is not really a big deal (unless they give free god items lol)

Servers that want to make a quick buck, it also has to do with the target audience RO attracts, and well they love freebies.

Go look at any RO server facebook/social media pages and see how many "Ano po freebies dito?" "is there freebies here?" "Freebies?" you see. Heh, boils down to bad admins and a toxic playerbase overall.

Lol damn right, i'm waiting for a server to post that there isn't freebies in there and people should move their lazy crapness to make their own stuff.

[Irreverence]

It's lazy gaming, but there are two sides to it.

I get a decent amount of messages wondering about expanded donation lists, or what they can donate for privately. We don't accept 'em because pay2win is s***, but their reasoning is usually "I don't have the time to no-life this s***", so I can understand that. But I doubt that's the case with 90% of these casuals.

[Duckshooter]

Just look at all the standard MMORPGs out there. You do Quest after Quest and your gear is always up to  date because its a Questreward. You dont have to farm until you hit the level cap.

I'd say we got 3 types of people who want freebies:

1.) People who are new to RO dont know that its a grindy game and part of the fun to farm your stuff
2.) People who usually play higher rates and get everything instantly anyway
3.) People who are bored of server-hopping and dont want to farm the same items every 2 month and will leave soon anyway

[Mary Magdalene]

1.) People who are new to RO dont know that its a grindy game and part of the fun to farm your stuff
2.) People who usually play higher rates and get everything instantly anyway
3.) People who are bored of server-hopping and dont want to farm the same items every 2 month and will leave soon anyway

In short, they're all just lazy.

Dunno about #1 tho but i think freebies ain't the answer to know the game, they should just learn the basics of the game instead.

[fugg:D:D]

RO playerbase is fickle as f*** nowadays but for good reason. They've switched servers so often, noone gives a crap anymore about grinding and whatnot.
People want their gears fast so they can woe, the only aspect anyone cares about anymore. That's why midrates are the only thing still alive these days (not really though). And though it might be that some people still find fun in warpsuraing MvPs or afking in BG for mats and whatnot, I suspect the bigger reason is that the majority aren't good enough for true woe servers and prefer to "stomp noobs" on new midrates, plus not actually having enough people for a full guild, thus needing random fillers.

Even midrates are a joke these days, it's funny watching them crash and burn after not even a month. As soon as the first woe starts all these newbreed woe guilds suddenly notice they only have 10 players and proceed to sudoku. Of course, there are some rare exceptions, for example I have no idea how woonRO manages to survive without a woe scene, it just does. And of course TalonRO but that's a unique case and anyone who plays there is likely a mentally retarded monkey (no hard feelings)

So anyway, everything just works off woe guilds coming and going. Admins know this. For all the aforementioned reasons, guilds want freebies. Admins have to budge because it's the only way to get population these days. therefore, freebies.
Sure there's still tons of "randoms" ie pugs on every server, but they don't make a server survive. Actually, it's pretty annoying watching their naivety "oh i totally believe this server will pull through!" when the admin is already considering pulling the plug while counting all his donation money.

As for why the community is so fickle, besides having done everything a million times, it's also bad experiences with GMs I guess. Most admins out there just want to rake in donation money, everyone knows this. So basically, when you know the server won't last long and the admins just want your money anyways, there's no reason not to be fickle. The only reason you're running into a "deathtrap" head-on is because you want to woe, right?
It's funny when people get upset over how "toxic" the woe community is when really they just don't give a f*** (ie dont need to fake politeness) because they can see right through admins fake s***. "abloobloo please appreciate our hard work" lol 'f*** outta here you cancer.

You can see how this is sort of a devils circle, its the community's fault that servers are so short lived, but garbage servers made the community like this in the first place.

Though recently some of these lowrates seem to have gained decent populations. I'm guessing they don't have freebies because they're lowrates, maybe i'm wrong.