Male V Female animation delay

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fluidin

Relics, you might want to teach us how to search for that particular file in a server's GRF and replace it :X
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Relics

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fluidin

Thanks, I'll try it out when I get home then  ;)

At work right now.
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

SilverStream~

Is it possible for your friend to make an edit for the female sinx Relics?

Would be appreciated =)
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Relics

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Hmm I'll edit it for you.. it's basically just editing the .act and removing act10 act11 act12 (all the attack frames) leaving only 1 frame for them.

anyway
Female .act:

-removed-

The folder for female sinx is
data\sprite\Àΰ£Á·\¸öÅë\¿©


edit:
Me and disox will do some testing with all the skills of every class and eventually compile a list or something.

fluidin

Aw man that would be greatly appreciated by me at least :o
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Orange

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Quote from: Relics on Jun 19, 2009, 06:17 AM
Hmm I'll edit it for you.. it's basically just editing the .act and removing act10 act11 act12 (all the attack frames) leaving only 1 frame for them.

anyway
Female .act:

-removed-

The folder for female sinx is
data\sprite\Àΰ£Á·\¸öÅë\¿©


edit:
Me and disox will do some testing with all the skills of every class and eventually compile a list or something.

Saves me time, A friend of mine wants to know if it works with BB? It looks like the animation delay is holding it back a lot :/

well yea thanks, hax ftw eh.(On my server I dun get banned for this yay)
:3

SilverStream~

Yeah this is probably the only way you can attack faster/spam without using 3rd party programs, and it's completely legit if you do it, since it's your own client.
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Orange

Quote from: SilverStream~ on Jun 19, 2009, 07:41 AM
Yeah this is probably the only way you can attack faster/spam without using 3rd party programs, and it's completely legit if you do it, since it's your own client.

Actually a LOT(atleast that I've played on) of servers don't allow you to do it, But some have no rules against it. and you just know someones ganna scream WPE(Well, That happens whenever you kill anyone no matter what-)
:3

SilverStream~

The gm's can try and detect a WPE program, since you have to infuse ro into it or something, but they cant detect that you change your sprites.

Some might have rules against it, but really thats kind of stupid imo.  You should be able to play the game without any other programs, but the game itself is/shouldbe fair game.
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Relics

WPE injects dll's into the programs it sniffs.

Yes BB works, try messing with your ASPD and see if you can stack a few.

SilverStream~

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SilverStream~

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Relics

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99/70
Any skill without sprite edit is ALWAYS a C
anything above C will do better with a sprite edit.
some skills have two ranks, this is because low-aspd and high-aspd can make a difference.
How to read the scale

C - Neutral
C+ - Slightly above neutral
B - Good
B+ Slightly above good
A - Very good
A+ Slightly above very good
A++ - Almost perfect
EA++ - Perfect

If there's something like B+-A+ it means the skill ranges between slightly above good to slightly above very good and etc.


Whitesmith
- Cart termination    B+-A+    Low ASPD slightly, devastating at high ASPD (180-185)
- Hammer fall      A++   
- Mammonite       B+-A+    Same story as cart termination
- Throw tomahawk   B   

Assassin Cross
- Sonic Blow      EA++    Stackable with a Soullink or one Bragi, soullink + bragi is absolutely devastating (soullink bragi is only devastating at >170 aspd).
- Grimtooth      B-A+   With low ASPD, edit is better. High ASPD and the difference becomes very noticeable
- Venom Dust    A   
- Back slide      C+   Only slightly, and only at high aspd
- Enchant poison   A   Who would want to stack enchant poison anyway

Stalker
- Full Strip      C+   Only with bragi does it make a difference. Slightly
- Double Strafe   B-A+   Depended on AGI but the difference on low ASPD and High aspd is very noticeable

Sniper

- Double Strafe   B-A+   
- Sharp Shooting   C-A+   SS will only work with the edit if you have atleast -50% aftercast delay. Sniping suit helps GREATLY and I suggest you always use it when doing SS.
for WoE, sniping suit + bragi = absolutely devastating but the reason this skill gets a C is because its depended on a few factors.
You need a lot -aftercast delay
Bragi is almost always a must
ASPD
The trick with SS is, when you have no -aftercast delay, then ASPD doesn't do anything, not even sprite edit/wpe helps increasing the speed.
Once you hit > -60% aftercast delay, ASPD will make a huge difference and so does the sprite edit.
- Arrow Shower    B   Nothing too fancy but slightly better.



Lord Knight

- Bowling Bash   B-A+   Depended on two factors, ASPD and DEX, since bowling bash has a 0.7s casting time which is reduced by dex, Low dex and Low ASPD means slightly noticeable while high dex and high aspd makes it a very easy skill to stack before your opponent is pushed back.
- Bash         A+   Bash is very interesting, at low ASPD the edit is VERY noticeable, it becomes less noticeable when comparing no edit-sprite edit with high ASPD.

- Pierce          B-B+   Slightly faster,
- Spear Stab      B-B+   Same as pierce
- Brandish Spear   B-A   Same as Bowling Bash


High Priest

- Heal         C-C+   You'll only see a slight difference with bragi and ASPD.. other then that, nothing noticeable
- Blessing      B-A   Noticeable to a degree with low ASPD, becomes very noticeable once you hit higher ASPD.
- Safety wall      C-A+   Sadly this A+ is only if you have high ASPD.. making this useless for the edit since I won't recommend ASPD on a priest (maybe a battle priest?)

High Wizard
- Ice wall      C-A+   Heavily influenced by ASPD, remember to use berserk pots on your wiz.
- Jupitel thunder   C-A+    Same as ice wall, heavily influenced by ASPD.
- Ganbantein      C-C+   Needs Bragi and some aspd to become spammable with the edit.
I recommend dancing gabant either way.
- Heavens Drive lvl1   C+   Slim to nothing and only with bragi

Clown
- Vulcan Arrow   A++   Though only A++ with the use of bragi, vulcan arrow becomes easily stackable with one.
- Musical Strike   A+   Very noticeable with any amount of ASPD

Paladin
- Holy Cross      A+   Just like Musical strike, very noticeable with any amount of ASPD
- Provoke      C+-B   Slightly and depends heavily on ASPD
- Shield Boom      C+   Slightly and only with bragi
- Shield Charge   B    Interestingly, only at lower ASPD is there a notable difference.

Champion

- Palm Push Strike   A   Chaining 2 and up is now very easy.

Creator

- Demonstration   C+   Nothing fancy


Gunslinger
- Magic Bullet      A   Such a stupid skill, but hey it works.
- Disarm      A-A+   Good skill and it works like a charm.
- Rapid shower   C-C+   Really only noticeable with bragi
- Bull's Eye      A
It's too bad that only the more mediocre skills from gunslinger are noticeable. I guess disarm is nice.


Professor
- Nothing here but us chickens!

Ninja

- Get no love from sprite edit.