how to get by enchant deadly poison

Started by agluestick, Sep 11, 2007, 09:27 PM

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agluestick

im a paladin mainly sacrifice so i have a triple bloody boned falchion and i was pvping a sinx and he only has 114k health so i should be able to kill him easily but he uses enchant ddeadly poision i think

is there a way to get by it

Emeralda

EDP doesn't change the element of your weapon so either try to get Ghostring or Deviling cards (quite easy on low rate servers compared to other MVP cards, especially from OCAs) or if it was enchanced with poison, the anti-poison armour (card).

vittordevitto

i disagree, u just need use ur aura to make him take 30% of teh damage, use a horong card to track him down, and keep using white potions

that's all, clean, nice, and cheap!

Emeralda

If by aura you mean Defending Aura than I don't see why you mentioned it. It's not about SB but EDP. And using potions in PvP is cheap and most of the time considered as cheating (altough most servers allow it during WoE).

bensei

Quote from: vittordevitto on Sep 12, 2007, 01:00 PM
i disagree, u just need use ur aura to make him take 30% of teh damage, use a horong card to track him down, and keep using white potions

that's all, clean, nice, and cheap!
i Agree with emeralda, to a good duel DO NOT belong pots. Sad that people rather waste money, instead of using their own skills, because if oyu didnt notice, pallies can make use of heal.

vittordevitto

well he was asking what do to against an Assasin cross with deadly poison

i told him to use horong, so he will be able to track, he has an peco, so the sin will not be able to run

i was talking about reflect shield, so when the sin hits him with sonic blow, he will that heavy damage as well

and about pots, he didn't say it's a duel

and even if it is, he has hight vit, and a skill to maximize pots, WHY not use it?

bensei

Quote from: vittordevitto on Sep 12, 2007, 02:48 PM
well he was asking what do to against an Assasin cross with deadly poison

i told him to use horong, so he will be able to track, he has an peco, so the sin will not be able to run

i was talking about reflect shield, so when the sin hits him with sonic blow, he will that heavy damage as well

and about pots, he didn't say it's a duel

and even if it is, he has hight vit, and a skill to maximize pots, WHY not use it?

If you ask as pallading how you would kill a edp'd sinx, its only obvious that you are talking about duels, since the job of a pally isnt killing in terms of woe, but supporting.

However, wth are you talking about? a skill to maximize pots? Also you dont stat Vit to be able to use pots more effectively in pvp, the main reasons for stating it are others.

vittordevitto

Increase HP Recovery

Effect: Heals ((5*SkillLV) + (Maximum HP*0.002*SkillLV)) HP per 10 full seconds spent standing on one cell. Increases the effect of healing items by 10%*SkillLV (cumulative with the increase from VIT).

-.-''' pallys are good potters, why not pot?

pot + reflect shield =  easy win

simple as that

bensei

Ah crap, you got me with the skills, however, the discussion goes nowhere, but i dare to say its just stupid to pot in duels ESPECIALLY if your a healing class.


You know duels arent about easy wins, but about comparing your skills with others?

vittordevitto

#9
If u think use pots is noobish, that's ur problem, he asked how to win, and i told him so...

WELL LET ME TELL YOU A SECRET

DEADLY POISON IS A POTION!

SO... THE SIX X DID ALREADY POT!

WHY THE PALADIM CAN'T POT AS WELL? WHERE IS TEH FAIRNESS IN THAT?

if he don't want to use pots that is his problem, not mine, not even yours

Emeralda

Just to straighten things up - EDP bottle is treated as a catalyst and not a healing potion.

vittordevitto

both are boosts ^^, both are consumable... so both should not be allowed in a duel ^^


Emeralda

You're confusing the role of those 'boosts'. Catalysts are required for certain skill usage and it doesn't make your duels a marathon of 'who has more healing potions'. Thus, all servers PvP/WoE rules allow catalysts to be used, but healing potions, even if not forbidden by official rules, all respecting players know that are forbidden to use them in a respective duel and only noobs go so low to use them. Though most players by healing potions assume HP restoring ones, so the SP potions situation varies from server to server.

bensei

Just to clarify, if a Biochemist uses Pots for their skill potion pitcher, its completely ok. As emeralda says, suchs things are threatend as catalysts, since you dont "use" them itselfs, but the skill you use does.

Also, yes i find potting in terms of using hp/sp recovering items in pvp noobish, as well as many others i guess. However, if you think its right, just go ahead and keep doing it, thinking your a real master of your class, because you have more money to buy pots than others.

Im done.

Kurogasa

Hrm ok..

Healing Pots are not allowed in a pvp match in most cases.. except when they are used for a skill. Edp is not considered "lame pot use" nor is aid potion since they are both skills...  if they were, then aspd "pots" wouldnt be allowed eighther.

For matyr reckoning vs edp sonic blow.. well youre obviously playing a server with broken core mechanics but you should put up guard and reflect and pray. If you hit him and arent doing much damage he probly has ghostring.. in which case you have no chance. Matyr does not take element but sonic blow does. So hell still be able to kill you if you get gring but you wont be able to kill him.

vittordevitto

catalysts.. for what skill esmerald??? he don't use it to be able to cast sonic blow, he uses it TO BOOST sonic blow,,,, then it's the same of a wiz that eats a food for + 10 int on a 1 x 1...

edp is lame

on my server (oficial), we mock people that use edp on the pvp... ^^

so... if he use edp, we sue pot. fair trade =*

Emeralda

Quote from: vittordevitto on Sep 17, 2007, 01:01 PM
catalysts.. for what skill esmerald??? he don't use it to be able to cast sonic blow, he uses it TO BOOST sonic blow,,,, then it's the same of a wiz that eats a food for + 10 int on a 1 x 1...

EDP bottles are required for EDP skill. Thus they are called catalysts. That +10 int food are treated equally as + ASPD potions, thus buff potions. Healing potions are... well, they are healing potions. You need to see the difference between those first before you make irrational posts.

Quote from: vittordevitto on Sep 17, 2007, 01:01 PM
edp is lame

Everyone who dies because of that skill says that. But I'll give you a chance to elaborate on that and prove I'm wrong.

Quote from: vittordevitto on Sep 17, 2007, 01:01 PM
on my server (oficial), we mock people that use edp on the pvp... ^^

Oh yes, I suppose you guys are the elite of the RO world. But seriously, I expected a lot more from official servers players.

Quote from: vittordevitto on Sep 17, 2007, 01:01 PM
so... if he use edp, we sue pot. fair trade =*

Uhhh... no? On any server that has players with respect to etiquette (almost all), you would quickly land on a KoS list and labeled as a noob for using healing potions during any kind of a duel or PvP (caution: not WoE).

vittordevitto

#17
lol esmeralda, edp skill MAKES and edp bottle, u click on it to use it... so u DRINK the edp for atck speed... well... things we can double click seem consumable for me...

so.. the sin x can have 300% more atck but the pally can't pot? we don't think so!

everyone know that edp is lame, at least here we think that way.

and yeah, i think the ofical server has the elite players, since we play it on 1x 1x 1x rate

we suffer to have our chars and our gear

we suffer to have money to waste on pvp

we suffer to make edp bottles

we can't miss our builds,cuz there is no "reset stats guy"

we can't have gr and gtb all the time... cuz in a server with 3 years, we have just 2 gtb cards

so we think is less silly to pot, than using an gr

we think is less silly pot and survive, kill the sin x noob that used the edp, than die in his dirty hands

thats all

=**


and that is something that you will never understand


Emeralda

Quote from: vittordevitto on Sep 17, 2007, 01:48 PM
lol esmeralda, edp skill MAKES and edp bottle, u click on it to use it... so u DRINK the edp for atck speed... well... things we can double click seem consumable for me...

Learn to distinguish the difference between consumable items:
1. Healing
2. Buffs
3. Catalysts

EDP in a way could be considered as a buff potion but since it comes only from Assassin Cross's skill and that it can be used only by them it's more of a catalyst.

Quote from: vittordevitto on Sep 17, 2007, 01:48 PM
so.. the sin x can have 300% more atck but the pally can't pot? we don't think so!

If paladins had skills that would actively use potions than why not? But since they don't. Do you see those assassins use healing potions during pvp? I don't think so (unless they are noobs or new to game).

Quote from: vittordevitto on Sep 17, 2007, 01:48 PM
and yeah, i think the ofical server has the elite players, since we play it on 1x 1x 1x rate

Now that's... kinda retarded ideology. If someone plays on a server with x rates, it doesn't make him/her '1337'. One can only call himself 'elite' only when (s)he knows perfectly how to play their character, know what it can do. It's someone who collected all their gears on their own and not through donations. It's someone who knows how to behave in PvP and shows respect for others, even those who (s)he killed.

Quote from: vittordevitto on Sep 17, 2007, 01:48 PM
we can't have gr and gtb all the time... cuz in a server with 3 years, we have just 2 gtb cards

Side note: ay, that's exactly the reason why all mid and high rate servers and those with overpowering donations are retarded. They are full of MVP cards.

Quote from: vittordevitto on Sep 17, 2007, 01:48 PM
we think is less silly pot and survive, kill the sin x noob that used the edp, than die in his dirty hands

Paradox caused by an awful grammar?

And please stop behaving like an 'I-know-it-all' noob. I'm just not going to reply again to another stiupid posts of yours cause it would be senseless.

vittordevitto

lol u are 2 dump to understand what is uggly and what is fair:

i prefer to pot, kill the sin X and go home happy

than let him kill me, and sit on my face.

-----------x----------------

so... it's elite someone that got all his gear by himself?

no, i don't think so

1- it's easy to have gear in non-oficial servers, even my dog could do that
2- like i told u before, NOOBS that only play PRIVATE dont understand how hard is to get gears here, we NEED help each other all the time. here we play together, nobody is pro here all by himself.
3- u insulted me, u can't even talk without ur emo s***. why you just don't kill ur self? what?? oh yes!!! the survival instinct!!
4- you don't deserve my time esmeralda, i was here, talking serius but now i am pissed of.

i think edp is a consumable potion, my server thinks that as well

so... please urself

 -Chill down, this is the internet and not real life-

Kurogasa

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Quote from: vittordevitto on Sep 17, 2007, 01:48 PM
lol esmeralda, edp skill MAKES and edp bottle, u click on it to use it... so u DRINK the edp for atck speed... well... things we can double click seem consumable for me...

so.. the sin x can have 300% more atck but the pally can't pot? we don't think so!

everyone know that edp is lame, at least here we think that way.

and yeah, i think the ofical server has the elite players, since we play it on 1x 1x 1x rate

we suffer to have our chars and our gear

we suffer to have money to waste on pvp

we suffer to make edp bottles

we can't miss our builds,cuz there is no "reset stats guy"

we can't have gr and gtb all the time... cuz in a server with 3 years, we have just 2 gtb cards

so we think is less silly to pot, than using an gr

we think is less silly pot and survive, kill the sin x noob that used the edp, than die in his dirty hands

thats all

=**


and that is something that you will never understand



Vitor.. thats wrong. If you double click the edp bottle it only gives you aspd. You have to use a skill in order to make it give you the damage bonus, and the skill consumes the bottle as a catalyst(similar to warp portal and blue gems). The skill to make the poison is "Create Deadly Poison" and the skill to USE it is Enchant Deadly Poison.

Create
http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=skill_db&skid=407

Enchant
http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=skill_db&skid=378

However.. On official servers potting in pvp is the norm. Its not a real duel but the pvp rooms in Officials are generally Free For All no rules. I find the PVP rooms on Private servers to be alot more honorable though.