Economy

Started by RMSPMS, May 30, 2008, 06:31 PM

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Guest

i think the idea where u need to donate money to a npc is the best =P

but thats just what i think~

RMSPMS

WOW thanks for all the input folks this is helping out nicely i think lots of ideas to strew over and some are bieng talked about already.  :D If any of you or others can take the time to read some of the info there it might help with some more ideas as well since that server is pretty custom as far as quest and such go. Thanks again for all you insight and knowledge. Any more please say so  :-*
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freakyred

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ok being a person who wants to be a GM I have many ideas but this is the best one that I am doing with my normal account(not that U have a GM account)(might harm the reputation of the server and very stupid) you can't wipe the zeny from the server but if you well let's say use your GM account to get really needed equips(not items because the players might abuse it)like HMRs people in the server I play currently sell them for like 1m? I sell it for 50-100k so people would like to sell lower and problem solved

EDIT: note: this would be weird to you

RMSPMS

@freakyred well it seems interesting but lowering prices is in a way a problem but the amount of zeny not bieng drained out of the server itself is the biggest issue. I'm not exactly sure what the amount is but there is like I'm guessing 10-30 maybe ppl with 1 billion or more money on them and more than i can even count that are well over 100 mil and its not really going anywhere.

@JJJ we have a npc that we can donate to that will soon open another i think custom dugeon and ppl have been donating to it(I have as well) just the amount of zeny versus what is available to put it into is lacking a bit and thats the part needing the biggest amount of help. Thanks for the tip though  ;)
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Pandora

I've experienced something similar but on a smaller scale since I'm on low rate. It's not completely solved yet, but we did change some stuff and I think it's helping.

Don't close any dungeons, that would make your players complain. A new dungeon with a global fee to unlock like rachel (someone suggested) is a good idea however.

You gotta find ways to drain money off the server, that can only be done with npc (trading between players only shifts the zeny around, it doesn't drain it). Like someone said, you could charge according to level, the higher the character the more they have to pay, healer and resetter on my server is like that, and it's free at low level to help newcomers. Old players get lazy, so give them something to ease up their lives, such as Level dungeon warper but expensive, those who don't have zeny can always walk/fly wing to get there.

To help your low level player you could give the low level monsters an item that your higher level players will need. Your higher level players will often prefer to buy it from others rather than go hunt puny monsters forever.

Event such as auction are a good way to drain zeny, just make sure what you sell is not game breaking and does not further expand the gap between new and old players.

Quests for gears such as Valk helm that requires 10M. Make something similar with 20M and different cards.

Make something special for end game player and charge 1 billion, something prestigious, but not game-breaking, try to appeal to them with reputation, something that will make them look superior and more well-known by the common player.
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Brainstorm

Now you know why warpers suck. People dont waste money to travel.

RMSPMS

Quote from: Pandora on Jun 02, 2008, 09:37 AM
I've experienced something similar but on a smaller scale since I'm on low rate. It's not completely solved yet, but we did change some stuff and I think it's helping.

Don't close any dungeons, that would make your players complain. A new dungeon with a global fee to unlock like rachel (someone suggested) is a good idea however.

You gotta find ways to drain money off the server, that can only be done with npc (trading between players only shifts the zeny around, it doesn't drain it). Like someone said, you could charge according to level, the higher the character the more they have to pay, healer and resetter on my server is like that, and it's free at low level to help newcomers. Old players get lazy, so give them something to ease up their lives, such as Level dungeon warper but expensive, those who don't have zeny can always walk/fly wing to get there.

To help your low level player you could give the low level monsters an item that your higher level players will need. Your higher level players will often prefer to buy it from others rather than go hunt puny monsters forever.

Event such as auction are a good way to drain zeny, just make sure what you sell is not game breaking and does not further expand the gap between new and old players.

Quests for gears such as Valk helm that requires 10M. Make something similar with 20M and different cards.

Make something special for end game player and charge 1 billion, something prestigious, but not game-breaking, try to appeal to them with reputation, something that will make them look superior and more well-known by the common player.

Thank you for your input i just hope some of our fellow players/staff are reading this as well. I Let them know on our forums so hopefully the message gets thru to them  :D.  The more tips/help we get, even if its from ppl that don't play on that server is all the better to keep i going i think. Thank you

@Brainstorm, we do not have @warp commands on our server so they have no choice but to either walk the whole way there or use the npc warper, so therefore an option to charge instead of keeping it free is the only way to travel unless u like alot of walking. ;D
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Helrouis

Sell bloody dead branches/custom items in which the price is 3% of the total zeny of the richest player in your server.

Brainstorm

QuoteSell bloody dead branches/custom items in which the price is 3% of the total zeny of the richest player in your server.
Trade with someone else -> Buy branches -> get money back. Yay exploit!

Helrouis

Quote from: Brainstorm on Jun 04, 2008, 10:55 PM
QuoteSell bloody dead branches/custom items in which the price is 3% of the total zeny of the richest player in your server.
Trade with someone else -> Buy branches -> get money back. Yay exploit!

You do have to inform them. But yea, sorry about that, i didn't mean just selling. i've ever heard of the bloody branch quest, but never tried to add/see it.

RMSPMS

We have a bloody branch quest that takes a decent amount of itmes to make one and they usually sell for around 10mil which to most on our server is like pocket change. We dont have a @mobsearch command anymore so the desire of BB's are becoming more popular. They have just increased the price the of npc that can unslot cards off of weapons and armor by a big jump. It now cost 1mil base and 250k-500k percard on said item(s). Which should help to a point but those that have +10 gears/items it really wont effect other than just like making so many of a certian item and then they just wouldn't have a reason to use the unslotter anymore. Like me i have 4-5 different +10 composite bows for my sniper depending on where he is going to be hunting at. Wasn't a bad idea but i don't think it will have much of an impact on what we are trying to go for but at least it's another way to drain zeny out of the server. Any more ideas from our fellow RO fans/players? If you have any feel free to post here, and thank you very much.
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Loki

Quote from: Helrouis on Jun 04, 2008, 10:29 PM
Sell bloody dead branches/custom items in which the price is 3% of the total zeny of the richest player in your server.

I don't understand your concept. Is it like the current zeny the player is holding or the total amount of zeny he has including the zenys the player stores in storage?

Unless you put a lvl limit to buy, players can just create a new account with 500z and use 3% of that 500z.

@RMSPMS: You could try and make the stat/skill reseter and warper charge zeny by using these calculations.

Stat Reset: (Base Lvl + Total Stat Point) + 50k
Skill Reset: (Job Lvl + Skill Point) + 80k

Warper: (Base Lvl + Job Lvl) + -current zeny charge by warper-

Its not much but I think it'll drain down the zeny slowly.
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Guest

lol i still think that having a npc that takes zeny donations is the best idea!
like something like the rachel sanc npc

have a big npc that needs x amount of zeny
and once x amount of zeny is reached some huge dungeon opens up
and i dunno you could make it like some uber custom dungeon or something

or if u dun like the dungeon thing you could make it sort of like an event thing....
where like the top 5 zeny donators or something win some event tokens or something

phranxis

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lotto or bidding

Guest

Quote from: phranxis on Jun 08, 2008, 04:02 AM
lotto or bidding

when i checked the place out i was pretty sure they already had a lotto or something.... it seemed really cheap