Autoattack or BotOn system

Started by mrfizi, Jun 11, 2024, 02:17 PM

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OldPoring

I've been playing Ragnarok without bots for 20 years, never used even a clicker or something. Now I want to try bots, I feel it's time!))

But now the problem is, where to actually download this Bot or Clicker (I want to play in 2 windows with my Priest and cast without switching windows, so can I do it with a clicker?)

The problem is where to download a bot without running into viruses and trojans?

The problem is that it sounds simple, but in some places I read the instructions, it is not easy at all, it seems that you will have to invest a lot of time in setting up the Bot and understanding its work, almost like learning the Ragnarok game itself.

Bullet

Quote from: OldPoring on Jul 03, 2024, 09:37 AMI've been playing Ragnarok without bots for 20 years, never used even a clicker or something. Now I want to try bots, I feel it's time!))

But now the problem is, where to actually download this Bot or Clicker (I want to play in 2 windows with my Priest and cast without switching windows, so can I do it with a clicker?)

The problem is where to download a bot without running into viruses and trojans?

The problem is that it sounds simple, but in some places I read the instructions, it is not easy at all, it seems that you will have to invest a lot of time in setting up the Bot and understanding its work, almost like learning the Ragnarok game itself.
You can try
Talonheim
bot allowed. you can download direct from the game server website or direct from openkore.
we can guide in discord how to bot. the bot will not work on other server and we dont guide botting on not bot allowed servers.

orochimakoto

It really depends on the person, to each their own as they say.

Personally, I like this auto attack feature. Those who "no-life" Ragnarok Online before now have families and jobs, but sometimes wants to have that ragnarok fix if you know what I mean... It just helps ease things up I guess.

distilled1

Quote from: orochimakoto on Jul 06, 2024, 07:34 PMThose who "no-life" Ragnarok Online before now have families and jobs, but sometimes wants to have that ragnarok fix

That's the only reasonable defense I can imagine for the attack-botting feature, but in my opinion, a better solution for players with limited time to grind levels and items is to simply play on a server with high exp rates (instant level 99 if you have that little time) and a server with higher drop rates.
That way you're not filling your server with "false characters", by which I mean you won't get a false sense of community and population where 90% of characters you see aren't players you can talk to, or play with, defeating the purpose of a multi-player online game.

Either way, at the end of the day, you didn't earn that level 99 character, or those drops your character now has. You didn't put in the effort to get those things. A program did, and just like no one is impressed by a player who got to level 99 at 10000% exp rates, no one is going to be impressed with your botted character.
Botting is almost always the worst potential solution or idea in online gaming.
Single-client servers encourage player interaction, discourage soulless min-maxing, and properly allow support characters to find partners and parties.
Dual-client and multi-client servers are a sin against Odin.

iixe

Have tested the auto attack function recently and got a few words for that.

It is the mentally challenged version of what xkore was 15 years ago.
Its easy to use and has an okay function palette but the pathfinding is horrible (been in byalan 2 and bot got stuck in an area of maybe 40x40 cell for over 30 mins after fly wings ran out).

Personally I see the pro on equality, since gepard definitely has been bypassed by a good amount of people that can and will use bots. Its better to give that tool to everyone when there is abuse for botting anyway.
On the con i see lazy server management getting encouraged by it to make mat requirement for quests unnecessarily high to generate more uptime with ppl that just farm afk. Its a waste of time for the player.

Im not a friend of it.  For many of the problems why people botting are more simple solutions possible if the admin knows and understands the economy of his own server. Which is definitely not often the case.

Bullet

Quote from: iixe on Jul 09, 2024, 08:08 AMPersonally I see the pro on equality, since gepard definitely has been bypassed by a good amount of people that can and will use bots. Its better to give that tool to everyone when there is abuse for botting anyway.
my best experience of RO is when I was noob and no bot around. Majority of RO should stay close to the original spirit especially for new players to experience the adventure.
Bot allowed RO should be for a very niche pool of players due to their lifestyle.

Gepard is bypass able but not worth it, openkore leaves too many fingerprints behind the log and easily identifiable and addressed. We don't support bypassing gepard or to bot in servers prohibiting bots for the respect of rules.

OldPoring

#21
I joined the server, I can say that I really like the experience. As someone who has never tried bots in Ragnarok in almost 20 years of playing
To begin with, I'm writing this now, and the bot raises the level right now. This is very unusual for me )
Quote from: Bullet on Jul 13, 2024, 10:24 AMMajority of RO should stay close to the original spirit especially for new players to experience the adventure.
You believe in having new RO players? I'm not. The fact of the matter is that All RO players have walked these trails thousands of times
Quote from: iixe on Jul 09, 2024, 08:08 AMIt is the mentally challenged version of what xkore was 15 years ago.
Its easy to use and has an okay function palette but the pathfinding is horrible (been in byalan 2 and bot got stuck in an area of maybe 40x40 cell for over 30 mins after fly wings ran out).
For me, the main thing is that I was able to launch the bot. And the server for this is friendly oriented for noobs in Bots. Details can be checked with those experienced in discord
Quote from: distilled1 on Jul 06, 2024, 08:34 PMbetter solution for players with limited time to grind levels and items is to simply play on a server with high exp rates (instant level 99 if you have that little time) and a server with higher drop rates.
Either way, at the end of the day, you didn't earn that level 99 character, or those drops your character now has. You didn't put in the effort to get those things. A program did, and just like no one is impressed by a player who got to level 99 at 10000% exp rates, no one is going to be impressed with your botted character.
Botting is almost always the worst potential solution or idea in online gaming.
Disagree, servers with a high drop rating Guarantee you to get items quickly. Bot doesnt guarantee you anything, you can kill 10000 mobs and not get a single card.
Slow progress of the Bot is still the slow progress of Your character. With a bot, you will also reach the maximum level, possibly several years. These are the years of your Real life, not a Bot life)

Also, who prevents you from taking the baton from the bot? No one prevents you from entering server as a real person and grinding monsters yourself. Then pass the baton to Bot again.
Or are you sure that you need to kill another 100000 High Orcs yourself? (again, heh) Or is it still possible to kill 5000 High Orcs yourself and with pleasure, but give 95000 to kill a bot? )

Arcadia Online

What's the point of playing when one makes the game such a competition and min-max-fest that one has to use bot features?

OldPoring

Quote from: Arcadia Online on Aug 06, 2024, 04:57 PMWhat's the point of playing when one makes the game such a competition and min-max-fest that one has to use bot features?
Bot able, not bot must. You can enable or disable the bot option, combine bot + bot, bot + live player. Very good.