[Renewal] how to self inflict fire damage or instantly make SP go zero?

Started by Zirius, Apr 13, 2016, 09:33 PM

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Zirius

Diamond Dust/Crystallization own my char on 1v1 PVP. so only way to do it is via self inflict fire damage or instantly make SP go zero. (even at max VIT crystallization proc).

Do you guys know any gears or cards that can self inflict fire damage or instantly make SP go zero? or even reduce current SP?

NOTE: I AM GX, I HAVE NO OVERHEATING SKILL LIKE MADO

thanks!

NovaRagnarok

The only thing that comes to mind quickly would be Zipper Bear cards.
Maybe another day I can help you look thoroughly. :]

Zirius

Quote from: NovaRagnarok on Apr 13, 2016, 11:50 PM
The only thing that comes to mind quickly would be Zipper Bear cards.
Maybe another day I can help you look thoroughly. :]

you can't attack while crystallized. also draining 1SP per attack with 1k SP.

Seriously, i feel the "marketing" here, are you guys that desperate?

Playtester

If you can switch gear while being affected you can keep equipping and unequipping items that drain SP on unequip like Deleter Card.

QuoteSeriously, i feel the "marketing" here, are you guys that desperate?
What's with that attitude towards someone that tries to help you?

NovaRagnarok

Jeez, apologies. I misread your initial question as the sentence structure was a little strange. Just went ahead and skipped to the question and answered that, skipping the first sentence.

Anyway, on the same vein as Playtester's reply, you can also try to reduce your Max SP% to 0 by swapping gear on.

http://tinyurl.com/zkzbfsf

But I don't remember if you can gear swap mid-cryst. I want to say yeah.

Zereges

High Wizard Kathryne drains 2000SP if you unequip it.
Salvage Cape drains 1200SP if you unequip it.

There were also few others, Great Lance (600SP, but only for knights), few cards and items that remove 5-100SP, notably Earth Deleter card (4 in weapon = 400SP).

I am not playing renewal, I never did, I just searched renewal database for such items.
On pre-renewal I could not find an item/skill/consumable or whatever, that would inflict fire damage to user. Magnum break deals fire damage and removes few of casters health, but it is not considered as damage. Maybe, there exists some item on renewal though.
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Zirius

Quote from: Playtester on Apr 14, 2016, 02:08 AM
If you can switch gear while being affected you can keep equipping and unequipping items that drain SP on unequip like Deleter Card.
What's with that attitude towards someone that tries to help you?

okay thanks

Quote from: Zereges on Apr 14, 2016, 03:45 AM
High Wizard Kathryne drains 2000SP if you unequip it.
Salvage Cape drains 1200SP if you unequip it.

There were also few others, Great Lance (600SP, but only for knights), few cards and items that remove 5-100SP, notably Earth Deleter card (4 in weapon = 400SP).

I am not playing renewal, I never did, I just searched renewal database for such items.
On pre-renewal I could not find an item/skill/consumable or whatever, that would inflict fire damage to user. Magnum break deals fire damage and removes few of casters health, but it is not considered as damage. Maybe, there exists some item on renewal though.

btw, earth deleter card is on armor, so you can only wear 1 card. salvage cape is only for priests, but i'm GX only.

seems like HW card is the only way to go, and it sux that my server does not allow that on our PVP map.

thanks!

Jessie Rocket

Hi,
Thx High Wizard Kathryne is not the only way to go x) (thinking with MvP cards is never a good thing imo x) )
You just have to spam the armor switch with 2 Armors with Earth Deleter Card each.
If you spam quickly, it goes fast.
If you know that it is really easy to them to Crystallize you, then think about lowering your SP on purpose before the real start of the match.
And we don't know on what kind of server you are (well, you talk about 4 Stormy Knight on your other topic with Cicada Skin Shed..)
I mean we don't know your max SP pool, but I seriously think spamming an armor switch on 2 different buttons of your Battlemode is fast enough with 2 fingers to reach 0 SP quickly.

Terpsichore

Having a weapon with four Pitman/Red Ferus/Hill Wind/Laurell Weinder cards can be a better option than Deleter cards (200 vs 100 SP lost), plus the obvious defensive benefits.

What I'm curious about is why are you having such issues, Diamond Dust has a long cooldown and a rather low success chance. Sropho cards can be nasty with fast attacks but they only work with melee hits and the status can't be refreshed.


Zirius

Quote from: Jessie Rocket on Apr 14, 2016, 06:16 AM
Hi,
Thx High Wizard Kathryne is not the only way to go x) (thinking with MvP cards is never a good thing imo x) )
You just have to spam the armor switch with 2 Armors with Earth Deleter Card each.
If you spam quickly, it goes fast.
If you know that it is really easy to them to Crystallize you, then think about lowering your SP on purpose before the real start of the match.
And we don't know on what kind of server you are (well, you talk about 4 Stormy Knight on your other topic with Cicada Skin Shed..)
I mean we don't know your max SP pool, but I seriously think spamming an armor switch on 2 different buttons of your Battlemode is fast enough with 2 fingers to reach 0 SP quickly.

its soo sad that i am playing on a 200ms+ ping server, so in a i can only switch twice~thrice per second.

Quote from: Terpsichore on Apr 14, 2016, 07:54 AM
Having a weapon with four Pitman/Red Ferus/Hill Wind/Laurell Weinder cards can be a better option than Deleter cards (200 vs 100 SP lost), plus the obvious defensive benefits.

What I'm curious about is why are you having such issues, Diamond Dust has a long cooldown and a rather low success chance. Sropho cards can be nasty with fast attacks but they only work with melee hits and the status can't be refreshed.

Shadow chaser with diamond dust + triangle shot wearing http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=re_item_db&item_id=18109 will kill you before crystallization ends, since you can't pots while crystallized at all.

for now, i am just trying to avoid any fight against diamond dust user.
my poor GX.

Playtester

I actually heard that Crystalization does no longer end when SP becomes 0 on kRO.

In any case the same could be said by players that are hit by one of your poisons in a 1vs1. They become just as helpless. So technically you could say the one wins that gives status change earlier.

Min

Genetics can stand on their demonstration to hit themselves for fire damage, this will stop crystallize from lasting, but it is kind of hard to stay put on genetic in woe.

Additionally using amistr based hom you can castle into a demo if you get caught in a thorn trap or spider web, this is the only way I know how to inflict fire damage on yourself. As a GX you could co-ordinate with your genetic team mates and stand on top of demo or LP when fighting sorcerers.


Zirius

Quote from: Min on Apr 14, 2016, 05:09 PM
Genetics can stand on their demonstration to hit themselves for fire damage, this will stop crystallize from lasting, but it is kind of hard to stay put on genetic in woe.

Additionally using amistr based hom you can castle into a demo if you get caught in a thorn trap or spider web, this is the only way I know how to inflict fire damage on yourself. As a GX you could co-ordinate with your genetic team mates and stand on top of demo or LP when fighting sorcerers.



great trick. too bad, my main is GX.  /pif