Unfrozen clown

Started by jokingkiller123, May 24, 2010, 05:54 AM

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jokingkiller123

is it possible to make a clown's MDEF to reach 89 as MDEF 89 is unfrozen although its without marc/evil druid..server rate 99/70,card and eq can be purchased,custom is +8 to all stat..your guide are much appreciated..  ;D

Relics

#1
+10 Frigg's - 10 MDEF
Odin's blessing - Set
+10 Valkyrja shield - 5 MDEF
Gives 40 MDEF in total counting the set bonus

Sunglasses[1] + Gibbet - 5 MDEF
Wool scarf + 1~5 [1] + Kapha - 12 MDEF
High heels + megalith  1~5 [1] - 12 MDEF
2 Rosaries non slotted - 10 MDEF
39 MDEF


Total of 79 MDEF

Seeker card (10 mdef, allows use of stone curse) in shield would pump MDEF to 89 MDEF, but you obviously lose thara.. which is quite a drop.
Accessories really gonna depend on your customs.

You could pump some LUK in order to gain some freeze res though.. I doubt even getting like 99 base LUK will make you fully immune to freeze at 79 MDEF
Might want to calculate what you need
Success Rate: BaseChance*(97 - MDEF - LUK/3)/100 %
Src: http://rodatazone.simgaming.net/mechanics/status_effects.php






Sarin

Quote from: Relics on May 24, 2010, 07:48 AM
+10 Frigg's - 10 MDEF
Odin's blessing - Set
+10 Valkyrja shield - 5 MDEF
Gives 40 MDEF in total counting the set bonus

Sunglasses[1] + Gibbet - 5 MDEF
Wool scarf + 1~5 [1] + Kapha - 12 MDEF
High heels + 1~5 [1] - 12 MDEF
2 Rosaries non slotted - 10 MDEF
39 MDEF


Total of 79 MDEF

Seeker card (10 mdef, allows use of stone curse) in shield would pump MDEF to 89 MDEF, but you obviously lose thara.. which is quite a drop.
Accessories really gonna depend on your customs.

You could pump some LUK in order to gain some freeze res though.. I doubt even getting like 99 base LUK will make you fully immune to freeze at 79 MDEF
Might want to calculate what you need
Success Rate: BaseChance*(97 - MDEF - LUK/3)/100 %
Src: http://rodatazone.simgaming.net/mechanics/status_effects.php


By that formula, 79 MDEF and 54 LUK should give you imunity.

jokingkiller123

but high heels only add 5 MDEF not 12.. ):

Sarin

Slotted with Megalith card.

Relics

Quote from: Sarin on May 24, 2010, 07:56 AM
Quote from: Relics on May 24, 2010, 07:48 AM
+10 Frigg's - 10 MDEF
Odin's blessing - Set
+10 Valkyrja shield - 5 MDEF
Gives 40 MDEF in total counting the set bonus

Sunglasses[1] + Gibbet - 5 MDEF
Wool scarf + 1~5 [1] + Kapha - 12 MDEF
High heels + 1~5 [1] - 12 MDEF
2 Rosaries non slotted - 10 MDEF
39 MDEF


Total of 79 MDEF

Seeker card (10 mdef, allows use of stone curse) in shield would pump MDEF to 89 MDEF, but you obviously lose thara.. which is quite a drop.
Accessories really gonna depend on your customs.

You could pump some LUK in order to gain some freeze res though.. I doubt even getting like 99 base LUK will make you fully immune to freeze at 79 MDEF
Might want to calculate what you need
Success Rate: BaseChance*(97 - MDEF - LUK/3)/100 %
Src: http://rodatazone.simgaming.net/mechanics/status_effects.php


By that formula, 79 MDEF and 54 LUK should give you imunity.

Idk i think the formula is off..

I still freeze on the test server

I tried 189 base LUK, still freezing.

jokingkiller123

Quote from: Relics on May 24, 2010, 07:48 AM
+10 Frigg's - 10 MDEF
Odin's blessing - Set
+10 Valkyrja shield - 5 MDEF
Gives 40 MDEF in total counting the set bonus

Sunglasses[1] + Gibbet - 5 MDEF
Wool scarf + 1~5 [1] + Kapha - 12 MDEF
High heels + megalith  1~5 [1] - 12 MDEF
2 Rosaries non slotted - 10 MDEF
39 MDEF


Total of 79 MDEF

Seeker card (10 mdef, allows use of stone curse) in shield would pump MDEF to 89 MDEF, but you obviously lose thara.. which is quite a drop.
Accessories really gonna depend on your customs.

You could pump some LUK in order to gain some freeze res though.. I doubt even getting like 99 base LUK will make you fully immune to freeze at 79 MDEF
Might want to calculate what you need
Success Rate: BaseChance*(97 - MDEF - LUK/3)/100 %
Src: http://rodatazone.simgaming.net/mechanics/status_effects.php






thanks alot for your guide.. it helps me lot.. (:

kamikozave

Quote from: Relics on May 24, 2010, 11:40 AM
Quote from: Sarin on May 24, 2010, 07:56 AM
Quote from: Relics on May 24, 2010, 07:48 AM
+10 Frigg's - 10 MDEF
Odin's blessing - Set
+10 Valkyrja shield - 5 MDEF
Gives 40 MDEF in total counting the set bonus

Sunglasses[1] + Gibbet - 5 MDEF
Wool scarf + 1~5 [1] + Kapha - 12 MDEF
High heels + 1~5 [1] - 12 MDEF
2 Rosaries non slotted - 10 MDEF
39 MDEF


Total of 79 MDEF

Seeker card (10 mdef, allows use of stone curse) in shield would pump MDEF to 89 MDEF, but you obviously lose thara.. which is quite a drop.
Accessories really gonna depend on your customs.

You could pump some LUK in order to gain some freeze res though.. I doubt even getting like 99 base LUK will make you fully immune to freeze at 79 MDEF
Might want to calculate what you need
Success Rate: BaseChance*(97 - MDEF - LUK/3)/100 %
Src: http://rodatazone.simgaming.net/mechanics/status_effects.php


By that formula, 79 MDEF and 54 LUK should give you imunity.

Idk i think the formula is off..

I still freeze on the test server

I tried 189 base LUK, still freezing.

YES, you will still freeze, special when somebody cast storm gust to you..
but you will only freeze in a matter of milliseconds.

If you have Mdef Set it gives you a boost in Magical Defense. If you can, its better to achieve a Magical Defense of 90. We need that 90 points of Mdef in the left side of the status window (90 base), MDEF makes your character invinsible to Frost. You'll get frozen but after .1 seconds, you will be able to move again.

tried and tested.. /no1

Relics

It's 89 MDEF, not 90.

What OP requested was freeze immunity, and obviously getting 89 MDEF on a 99/70 clown with no customs that boost mdef (afaik) is going to be unconventional since you'd have to sacrifice gear like thara frog.


kamikozave


@^

so, i can still save 1 Mdef.. /heh


jokingkiller123

Quote from: Relics on May 26, 2010, 04:58 AM
It's 89 MDEF, not 90.

What OP requested was freeze immunity, and obviously getting 89 MDEF on a 99/70 clown with no customs that boost mdef (afaik) is going to be unconventional since you'd have to sacrifice gear like thara frog.


yea this is true..my clown could tank asura with gr and deviling but couldn't tank sonic blow.. ):

fluidin

there IS another way though.

tidal shoes - 5%
marse carded leather of tendrilion - 35%
cranial valk - 20%
2x glorious rings -20%
water ele res pot -20%

thats 100% water res right there :x

now u can walk thru SGs~
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

mahawirasd

indeed, now the question is, when you get 100% or more resistance, will SG still move you about or will it not register at all?

and fluidin, does your list imply that the armor slot is used for marc rather than swordfish?

what happens if you have 100% resistance but you don't have marc? will you still freeze?


-w-

Orange

Quote from: mahawirasd on Jun 01, 2010, 06:32 AM
indeed, now the question is, when you get 100% or more resistance, will SG still move you about or will it not register at all?

and fluidin, does your list imply that the armor slot is used for marc rather than swordfish?

what happens if you have 100% resistance but you don't have marc? will you still freeze?


-w-

When I last got 100% demi human resist on RMS test server you were completely invulnerable to it, AD wouldn't make you flinch and you could walk through SG without it freezing/flinching you
:3

fluidin

#14
it wont register at all.

no, you wont freeze

u dont need to wear unfrozen at all, it's one of the perks of 100% water res. juz default a gr under SG and laugh
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Relics

Quote from: mahawirasd on Jun 01, 2010, 06:32 AM
indeed, now the question is, when you get 100% or more resistance, will SG still move you about or will it not register at all?

and fluidin, does your list imply that the armor slot is used for marc rather than swordfish?

what happens if you have 100% resistance but you don't have marc? will you still freeze?

-w-

It has to be exactly 100%

If you are above 100% you are practically still hittable, I really don't know why or what is going wrong in the formula for ie; damage, magic damage.. but you get the 'ghost hit' and can still be hit depending on mATK.

Habuka

When you go over the 100% resist, you start to soak in the damage and gain health.
I Is Warned

mahawirasd

wow...

now correct me if i'm wrong, but for non custom non BG servers that would be:
tidals (shoes) 5%
leaf cat (headgear card) 10%
leather of tendrilion (garment) 5%
marse (garment card) 30%
valkyrja's shield (shield) 20%
cold resist pot (consumable) 20%

urgh 90%...

so it really is trans-locked and would need waterdrop brooch or ring of water... and aqua elemental card would also be hax, but then you might want to leave the leaf cat at home as to not get the ghost hit...


on a side note, why does the script "bonus2 bSubEle,Ele_Water" seem to come with both the description "Decreases damage on (from?) Water Property enemies by 5%" and "increases 5% resistance from the monster to Water and Earth property attacks"...
how does it really work?
from ALL water property monsters even if their default attack is neutral?
does players count if they're using swordfish?
or just from water property ATTACKS?

anyone care to enlighten me on this?


-w-

jokingkiller123

Quote from: fluidin on Jun 01, 2010, 12:06 AM
there IS another way though.

tidal shoes - 5%
marse carded leather of tendrilion - 35%
cranial valk - 20%
2x glorious rings -20%
water ele res pot -20%

thats 100% water res right there :x

now u can walk thru SGs~

if 100% water resist am im immune to freeze? and glorious ring means wad card compounded in it??

Relics

Quote from: mahawirasd on Jun 01, 2010, 10:47 PM
wow...

now correct me if i'm wrong, but for non custom non BG servers that would be:
tidals (shoes) 5%
leaf cat (headgear card) 10%
leather of tendrilion (garment) 5%
marse (garment card) 30%
valkyrja's shield (shield) 20%
cold resist pot (consumable) 20%

urgh 90%...

so it really is trans-locked and would need waterdrop brooch or ring of water... and aqua elemental card would also be hax, but then you might want to leave the leaf cat at home as to not get the ghost hit...


on a side note, why does the script "bonus2 bSubEle,Ele_Water" seem to come with both the description "Decreases damage on (from?) Water Property enemies by 5%" and "increases 5% resistance from the monster to Water and Earth property attacks"...
how does it really work?
from ALL water property monsters even if their default attack is neutral?
does players count if they're using swordfish?
or just from water property ATTACKS?

anyone care to enlighten me on this?


-w-

eh meh, nvm about the ghost hit, it'll only be possible to damage someone with >100% reducts using melee.

about your post, water property monsters will still do unless they use ie; a water property attack like water ball

players will also be able to do damage even when using swordfish


@jokingkiller
No, frost joker can still freeze you and melee attacks with freezing cards like sk, marina etc

jokingkiller123

oh..its reali imbalance if 100% resistance for water will made u immune to freeze..hahaha..thanks for your guide.. (:

fluidin

i havent tried frost joke yet tho.

the idea came from an iro vid, whr a sinx was wearing those exact same gears. i didnt really see him switching between GR and unfrozen/ed often, yet in a large scale battle he wasnt getting frozen. so, i'm not really sure abt FJ. did u try it on the test server relics?

the only time he actually got frozen in the vid was when someone tarot-froze him i think
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Relics

Quote from: fluidin on Jun 02, 2010, 02:08 PM
i havent tried frost joke yet tho.

the idea came from an iro vid, whr a sinx was wearing those exact same gears. i didnt really see him switching between GR and unfrozen/ed often, yet in a large scale battle he wasnt getting frozen. so, i'm not really sure abt FJ. did u try it on the test server relics?

the only time he actually got frozen in the vid was when someone tarot-froze him i think

Yea, tested on test server.. freezes.
And it makes sense you know, freeze is not like a water prop attack or something, it's a status lol

fluidin

yeah i know, juz curious cos i didnt see the sinx switching much.

prob juz a lack of fj-ers at the right time
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

mahawirasd

hmmph so i guess it's just like most skills/items descriptions everywhere in the RO world...

so the logic seems to be that if you have >100% resistance to water, water element attacks such as SG won't hit you meaning you won't be frozen while FJ being a non-elemental status attack will still freeze you...

so in the end grav really gimped those dancers and gave all the best skills to bards... meh typical...


-w-