Soloing New World as a Sniper: any advice?

[Leamee]

Hey guys,

Since I'm now a better sniper, I've decided to give new world a shot. I actually did pretty well there, even with a measly hunter bow and fire arrows. I charge arrow then DS then repeat. I know I could also trap but this works for me and since I added tons of vit I can tank one attack (cornus or naga) when I'm lucky. The other mobs are a piece of cake.
The thing is, cornus would be awfully easy to kill with well-timed charge arrows if the idiot didn't full heal every 10 seconds. I tried DS-ing faster to break its cast but it doesn't work. I doubt that a champ level 99 could asura him without dying a few times as his *melee* attack is 18K. Naga's is only 9K and it already hurts a whole lot. Basically this map is full of kasas on steroids that have higher defense. Thank god they aren't mini-bosses - at least I can charge arrow.

I also want to try the nest map - it can't be much harder than splendid field. I'm not even making crazy bows to solo the new world as I probably won't have that kind of stuff when I register on a legit serv. I'll do the ghost morroc incantation when I have the patience. Immaterial arrows are hard to drop/ craft so IMO I'd be better off working on the other new world monsters.

Edit: tried soloing tatacho and centipede/ centipede larva, ne-something (mandragora-like mob)= easymode with charge arrow and measly hunter bow.
Would recommend bringing some SP pots though, and some white pots in case tatacho manages to hit you (he's very very fast). You can deal with several mobs at the same time, bradium golem is a pain though, DS doesn't work on him. He takes 500 damage max, which is infuriating. Will try doing him with another bow, but I don't think he's worth it.
Edit: He has 78 def, and that's the main problem. I can reach 1K DS with the best possible bow. I killed him once along with 2 tatachos (charge arrow ftw *-*) but he's long and boring to kill. I think that a caster class (probably HW) would do a much better job of killing him. Frost drive > jupitel about 4 times, and he'd be gone.

Haven't given the nest a go yet, it should be pretty easy if I can get through the portal (lots of mobs in front of the warp).

Edit: luciola vespa is easily doable, but one mistake and you're dead. Tatacho is fast but luciola is VERY fast so you really have to time your charge arrows. Plus she has ranged skills so it makes things that much harder.
Tendrilion's baby is also kind of easy to kill, but also very fast. Basically New World is soloable overall, but Cornus is an enigma u_u

Edit (last one): Tried killing ever single monster in the nest, they're very easy. Charge arrow DS DS and repeat. I don't think trapping would be an option as charge arrow is good for mob control and always works. If/ when the trap gives up on you there's no warning and you're dead.
Dark shadow: ranged skills = harder.
Dead tree is ridiculously easy.
I haven't tried the other ones, dark shadow's attack ~15K , dead tree's attack ~17K, was most worried about these two.
The only problem is the insane amount of arrow switching inside the dungeon. When you TP near the right mob(s) you don't want to change arrows...

[uncelebrated]

beast strafe.

[Leamee]

beast strafe.

You need an SL to do that. Plus I'm pretty sure that cornus would still heal too fast.

[Symbol]

Here's your main problem: Charge arrow isn't a reliable control skill. Period. Ankle Snare is a Sniper's best friend. Ever.

As uncelebrated vaguely pointed, the only way to kill Cornus as a Sniper is with Beast Strafe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXxJRb9evHc This video pretty much explains everything you need. You, however, don't need all that STR focused equip. If you do manage to get the trick of the killing, 99Str with shadow arrows can take care of them.

I can't actually give more advice, since ALL your soloing troubles are certainly caused by the no use of the Ankle Snare. You may have charge arrow as a backup skill if the snare goes out before expected, but that's it. You shouldn't rely your life on it.

[Leamee]

I can't actually give more advice, since ALL your soloing troubles are certainly caused by the no use of the Ankle Snare. You may have charge arrow as a backup skill if the snare goes out before expected, but that's it. You shouldn't rely your life on it.

You're probably right, but charge arrow works well for me. I tried trapping naga and died several times (that's mainly because he can hit you from afar, not like most other new world monsters). I end up mob-training him to the trap but rarely manage to snare him, and when I do, he's usually too close by then. I do set several traps but I don't really have the time to make neat rows :x
However, when I charge arrow, I almost never die, unless I tp-ed into naga which happens and can't really be prevented.
The Cornus part is very interesting, but I'd need an SL and a resetter. I can always make an SL and soul-link myself though. I need to try this on the test server.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong here. I can trap monsters, just not very fast ones u_u

[Gene]

Use hunter card set and get 187-190 APSD.
(Cruiser, Anolian, Merman, Dragon Tail, Alligator)

Rape each and every mob you see at spl with two different arrows on your BM. Don't worry, you won't be needing Arrow of Shadow for Cornus, Any non-holy elem arrow can coma him to death. What I bring on spl: A few traps just in case, Stone Arrow and Fire Arrow. I never use charge arrow too since they die before even reaching you.(Yes, including Vespa).

And also, coma>beast strafe only if you are lazy or if you want to save SP~

[Symbol]

And also, coma>beast strafe only if you are lazy or if you want to save SP~

I've already ran some coma tests about half year ago and even though they can be pretty smooth, you rely entirely on luck. A well made BeastStrafe build can Knock Cornus down in 2 shots.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong here. I can trap monsters, just not very fast ones u_u

The basic trapping strategies is to make a upside-down V with Snares as soon as you see the farmed monster. Then take a few steps away and start DSing it. With some training, you won't need the other 2 backups.
You'll obviously want to kill the said monster within A.Snare time. If you can't because of Equip/HP means, simply add another snare where you're standing and go back a few cells.

When my internet starts to care about me and work I'll post up a few ScreenShots :#

EDIT: Managed to upload it :#

When the monster's locked on the V traps you can finish the layer like on the Cornus/Vespa. If you're sure about your first trap, you can simply as the first Naga. The right bottom one is my usual trap system. One locking the monster and 2 lined-up backups.


I won't post up my equips, since they were TERRIBLY rush made. The only thing that actually matters on my set is the 2Goblin/OrcSkel carded Comp bow and a strength 10 multiplier. Basic Bless+Agi. You can then improve it with your own equips. If you can't manage to 2Hit it, get used to it's healing timer and kill it on the gap.

[Leamee]

I tried beast strafing Cornus and only reach ~10K/beast strafe which isn't enough. Plus there's no way I'll reset stat/skill and bring slave SL all the time on my real serv. The guy had bloody shackle balls which is almost impossible to get on a low drop rates serv (mine will be 30).
I don't use BM right now but I have more than enough space to put 2 different types of arrows I think. I managed to squeeze in 3 types for the nest so it should be no problem.

Use hunter card set and get 187-190 APSD.
(Cruiser, Anolian, Merman, Dragon Tail, Alligator)

I've never tried using it before, I heard that it's a decent combo though. I guess that reaching 187 aspd shouldn't be that hard with the set, though I might want to give up on the 2 gloves and get brooches instead. Doesn't make much of a difference.

The basic trapping strategies is to make a upside-down V with Snares as soon as you see the farmed monster. Then take a few steps away and start DSing it. With some training, you won't need the other 2 backups.
You'll obviously want to kill the said monster within A.Snare time. If you can't because of Equip/HP means, simply add another snare where you're standing and go back a few cells.

I may give it a try again but I'll get the hunter set first, because SP is one of my main problems and farming splendid without pots would be difficult with a dex/agi/vit build for DS-ing and tanking. I guess each build can work but you will die at some point (TP-ing is one of the "best" ways to die there, but you just cannot not TP.)


Okay, I tested the combo and I like it. I have a question though. How do you reach 187-190 aspd without buffs?
I can see how this could work perfectly with such an aspd but I only reach about ~185 with burning bow.

Posted on: Jan 21, 2011, 12:02 amThanks for the screenshots Symbol
I'll definitely try and trap cornus, which is my main problem right now.
I like the hunter set A LOT. Naga is just uber-easy with it, ditto for the little pinguiculas.
That said, I really don't know how to reach 187 aspd or more without boosts. 185 aspd is fine for naga but cornus is just a pain.
He sometimes TPs out of traps I think, and if I can't coma him rapidly, I usually just tp because charge arrow won't keep him away for a long time (and he has ranged attacks that REALLY hurt).
I just love it when the monsters drop dead like that *-*
I sometimes DS naga if I'm in a dire situation but click and wait (and run/ charge arrow if aspd becomes too low) is a very very nice method.
By the way, can you coma a boss monster? Because if you can, I have an awesome idea.

[Symbol]

Please note that those are basic equipment, you can twist it with recent aspd/agi stuff to suit you. The manteau/vest were uncarded. If you can't obtain both, try using a pantie/undershirt combo or make the agi up by using the missing slots (i.e Bapho Jr. Card)

* Two Glorious Rings boost it to 190.
* Two Kukre Carded Bradium Broochs boost it to 189
* With the first set and +10Agi/Dex Dishes (aka Steamed Desert Scorpions/Hwergelmir's Tonic) you can reach 190 Aspd.
* The used buffs on the ScreenShots were Bless / Agi / Concentration / True Sight / Awakening Potion.

[Gene]

By the way, can you coma a boss monster? Because if you can, I have an awesome idea.

Glad you loved coma. But sadly though it does not work on bosses.

I suggest go beast strafing if you can't reach high aspd too.

[Leamee]

I can reach about 185 aspd, which is enough for naga and pinguicula. I'm pretty sure I'd still have to charge arrow/ pray for vespa but that's another story.
I'll stick to the hunter set I think. I just need to find a way to improve my agi without crazy items. Bradium brooch would do nicely but isn't dropped by a monster and I don't think there's a quest.
I can trap cornus pretty well now, but sometimes even 4 traps aren't enough.

Trapping tatacho/ bradium golem/ centipede is much harder. Yesterday I had no problem killing centipede and tatacho but today I feel like I do need traps, especially for centipede. The thing has very powerful ranged attacks that charge arrow can't really prevent so I'm now forced to lay down traps when I see one.
A dex/ vit/ agi/ int build would be better for manuk field as I DS a lot (you just cannot hit and wait like for naga and cornus because these monsters seem faster).
Sadly enough, dolomedes isn't implemented on RMS test server and I can't summon him with bloody branch, so I'll never know if he's killable by a sniper or not, unless I log onto my old Hungarian server XD (I don't speak Hungarian).
I might just give it a shot as bradium ring is very yummy.

[uncelebrated]

Traps are a waste of time, they just lower your kills/hr ratio.  use Beast Strafe and 1-3hko everything.

[Sarin]

...IF you have 24/7 soul linker behind your...behind. If not, traps might be nescessary.

[fluidin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr7gKtze7xM

this is usually the way i play sniper.

eqs would b archer card set, 189 aspd.


s.pantie + s.undershirt
black leather boots
binos
insom ulles
s.brooches / horn of the buffalo / orlean gloves

a combination of these eq should get you that aspd.

[Leamee]

s.pantie + s.undershirt
black leather boots
binos
insom ulles
s.brooches / horn of the buffalo / orlean gloves

athletic brooches would be the best combination. Thanks for suggesting these equips  
I don't think the horn is necessary though, athletic brooch is better and less expensive.
However on a server with low drops rates (30) getting enough money to slot the pantie and undershirt is very difficult. I had over 15M and only managed to slot one which isn't surprising as you need about 20M to slot both.
That said, dragon vest and manteau would be implemented and they're better IMO.
You also need 5M+ to slot black leather boots.
It'd be easy to get on a midrate, so I might just give a 100/100/100 a try, because I don't want to die from too much grinding  

I won't have an SL with me all the time as I don't think I'll be making one (and if I do, it doesn't change a thing because I'll be a pure battle SL).

I still have trouble killing Hillslion. One is fine but they tend to walk/jump/roar? in groups of 2 or 3 and trapping a single one is a nightmare. Plus they're small and creep up on you.
Sprint shoes [1] (dropped by him) give +1 agi, +5% HP recovery and are already slotted so superior to black leather boots.

Would more ASPD solve my problem?
I need to run some tests on RMS, though I don't know whether I should go full agi for that particular monster or go vit/ build and just outpot his damage (5K a pop, doable with good potions).

Edit bis: I watched some videos on youtube and bolter sage with cobweb is obviously one of the best classes to solo manuk field 1 and 2. However, the guy either avoided the lion or didn't cross his path, because I don't think he killed a single one in the video.
Would frost driver wiz also work? I'm don't have anything against caster classes, I just like playing sniper better. I do miss my SL though, but since she would get eaten in New World, there's no point in making one. I really want sprint shoes.

Edit 3: Okay, I'm getting better and better at trapping. My "preventive" trap method works in both manuk field 2 and manuk field 3. Sometimes I still get attacked by a hilsllion but one long-ranged attack is tankable with pots.
I can survive for a long time and deal with several monsters since they all jump into my traps  and this gives me more than enough time to lay down some more. I still have to tp but that's mainly because of the centipedes. IMO Tatacho and Hilsllion are worth killing for the drops, but centipede is just a pain in the donkey that drops crappy stuff.
However, I'm pretty sure that for manuk field anyway, I should change up my build.
Max dex 70 agi or so and rest in int and some vit would be more comfortable since I'm in full trap/ DS mode.
I keep running out of sp and I probably need some str too to carry the traps. However, the hunter combo wins hands-down in splendide field, though dex/vit/int also works but then you can't kill cornus.

And yes, traps are awesome. I finally understood that. Heh, better late than never, I'm loving my sniper more and more 

I changed up the equips a little bit:
sprint shoes [1]
one athletic brooch
the dragon vest + dragon manteau combo.
Slots are filled up by the hunter combo, using a burning bow right now because it's versatile.