A Gypsy build and strategies?

Started by Majinken Souga, Sep 09, 2009, 08:40 AM

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Majinken Souga

Well, I'm playing a midrate server with max level 255/120, max stat 255. The main reason I want to use a Gypsy as opposed to a Clown is the skill Please Don't Forget Me. It slows the enemy down, as you probably know. Before you say, "use a Clown, Frost Joker is better!" everybody on the server knows about that, and marcs are abundant.

Anyways, most of the stuff is easy enough for me to get. I want to mow down the enemy with powerful strikes, but the battleground weapon is out of the question atm. -_- I know, you're probably saying, "use a different class?" Well, there's a reason I want to use a Gypsy, and that's because nobody expects you to hit 10k throw arrows. It's mostly for slowing the enemy down and comaing with Tarot Card of Fate. What is recommended for stats, equips, and cards? Strategies are welcome also.

Some things I should mention:

4 headgear slots at maximum.
Kiel has been moved to footgear to prevent skill spamming.
GTB has 60% of its regular effect(reduces magic damage by 60% instead of nullifying it)
All cards are available(none removed due to overpoweredness or anything like that)
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fluidin

#1
You sound like an intelligent person. My first piece of advice would be "Get off highrates".


Besides that, I can't really give much other advice considering you're not on a 99/70. However, I have some general tips.

Abuse Slow Grace with speedpot if possible.
Remember to get Soul Link, Slow Grace works so much better with it, since you don't need to flash it multiple times and run the risk of getting owned by lag. Normally if you wanted to slow grace a grp of enemies you would have to: spdpot, run into enemy pack, flash slow, run a little more forward, flash slow, run forward again, flash slow, and then run out of enemy pack.  With Link you can just leave it on and run through them.

Another thing is, frilldora garments and hide accessories are your friend. use them often, especially if you have to go into enemy pack to slowgrace+ugly dance debuff. if you find yourself getting caught easily, cloak in, slowgrace, hide, slowgrace, hide, cloak out, etc. With timing of course. Once hidden wait for them to waste time sight/ruwach/HD-ing you out before speed-potting out. Every millisecond counts.

AV actually got buffed to being usable again with the BG weapons, but since you can't get them stick to tarot. Get high aspd/dex for tarot spammage. Link if possible again, so you can self-poem and spam tarot easily.

i don't know what kind of stats you can get on 255s, but get status immunity. can't stress enough on achieving status immunity for clowns/gyps. at least 100 total vit is a must, get some luck if you can spare it, it lowers the chance of coma being inflicted on yourself, and buffs your lady luck song anw.
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

CaramelToast

I agree with fluidin's post, but would also like to add one piece of advice. 

The new trend in RO for Gypsies, especially those who spam Dazzler in Strings, is to go Agi/Vit.  On a HR, I'm sure you can throw in Dex for cast time.  But the reasoning behind the high Agi is for a higher aspd, which is going to be your only limiting factor in a good Strings.  Having High Agi also reduces the walking speed of your enemies affected by Slow Grace even more, so it's an additional bonus to that. 

I would recommend at least trying this build and seeing how you like it.  As ppl on iRO Valk can testify, having an agi Gypsy in Strings spamming Dazzler at something like 3 times a sec is really annoying and stuns even some high vit classes enough to mess them up.

fluidin

He's on highrates, i doubt stun is going to be a problem.

however, you're right about the dazzler thing. heck, i spammed them 5 times in 1 sec, and even the 80vits in the enemy guild resetted str8 away to at least 90.
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Broken Moon

You might want to try Rope of Unbalance if your server has 13.1 stuff already. Nice attack, 3 slots and pushes enemy back on Arrow Vulcan/Throw Arrow. Simply amazing.

I'm not sure if it'd be better than a Rope[4], as it's a HR and you'll have tons of DEX, but give it a try, especially if you can get an overgraded one.

Metafalica

#5
Is there a reason why Arrow Vulc was only mentioned once in this entire thread? xD Seriously. The damage potential is very high.. It will probably be your strongest damaging move as long as you can get them far enough away to account for the cool down (If there is any.. ew, high rates).. other then that I guess your only opnions would be a nice status whip, or rope[4] with racial cards and then just AV. High rate doesn't take too much planning or skill, so just make your dex as high as you possibly can and hope for an OHKO.

Btw, Love your name. Tales of Destiny is an awesome game.
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Orange

Quote from: Metafalica on Sep 10, 2009, 08:36 PM
Is there a reason why Arrow Vulc was only mentioned once in this entire thread? xD Seriously. The damage potential is very high.. It will probably be your strongest damaging move as long as you can get them far enough away to account for the cool down (If there is any.. ew, high rates).. other then that I guess your only opnions would be a nice status whip, or rope[4] with racial cards and then just AV. High rate doesn't take too much planning or skill, so just make your dex as high as you possibly can and hope for an OHKO.

Btw, Love your name. Tales of Destiny is an awesome game.
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Only good if you have bragi really, but tbh tarot is better especially on a 255
:3

Metafalica


Doesn't Tarot have nasty cool-down after some cards?

fluidin

tarot is spammable as long as you have poem, even on 99s
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Omi

QuoteThe damage potential is very high..

Even on high rates, the damage will still be extremely low compared if you just.. melee..

Headgear : 10% Reduction.   Cranial (valk) : 30% Reduction + Ele reduction.  Noxious : 10% Reduction / Extra 10% if non ele arrows.  Alligators : 16% Reduction.  Then when you take hard def into account, you've got about an extra 7% reduction on average, and WoE reductions reduce it a lot too (forget the exact value, and that is if (s)he uses it in woe aswell) so Tarot becomes the better choice, especially because it has fixed effects.

From the above that is already 70% average reduction on AV, and depending on elements, it can reach up to 90% depending on what the user wears, or if the armor matches your element, 95% total reduction (iirc that is the fixed cap by ROs mechanics), excluding ghost element, where same element will increase your damage a lot.  Hell, if you resort to melee attacks, you're already canceling out 26% of damage added by reductions, and along with tarot you'll be breaking their reductions.

That wise, instant cast dex, vit, int, high agi for animation delay cool down.  That's all there is to it really, just tag reducs / hide rosary for skills like asura, grimtooth etc.

Orange

AV would be better if you can bragi yourself, without bragi I wouldn't use it and the animation delay is still hueg

Not worth using in WoE, especially on highrates

When theres just 1 or 2 people around(especially if they're frozen or something) then it's fine to use but in WoE with a few people I'd focus on tarot
:3

Majinken Souga

About Arrow Vulcan: There is plenty of delay on the server. That's why I prefer Throw Arrow. I've actually managed to hit MORE damage in the same time with Throw Arrow, but at the cost of using up more arrows(which isn't really a problem, considering the rates...)

The problem is Pneuma. I suppose a Smokie card is best for Champions and the like, but what of Snipers/Bow Stalkers with an Errende Ebecee card?
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Radprofile

Throw arrow it's better than AV sometimes, it the depends of the situation.

About the Errende Ebecee ... it's 5% , I think it's just better more defense against long range than trust on 5% of success of a card.

CaramelToast

Just Tarot ppl in Pneuma, really.  With Instacast, it's only a matter of time before they get coma'd and you don't have to worry about the sniper interuptting your cast.  Of course, you do have to worry about the cast delay...

yawnzz

Get at least 100 int, get linked so you have strings/bragi, use it on yourself, enjoy near-0 delay tarot.
And use AV once you get the coma card so they can't outpot it.