Sinx vs LK

[Larguirucho]

The big problem this case (LK AGI Build) is that (I think these because of Sinx Weapon) it might be a High Rates, so Phreeoni it's probably avaiable for that Sinx, and if medium experience he MUST know that he can use Marine Sphere card in order to Magnum Break before SBing in order to be sure to hit (besides it won't be full damage if it miss). Edge is a wise choice (but it's a pitty that Coma probability is too low). Other way is (Kamikaze build i've said) and Execuitoner. That weapon Improves your damage, not only reflected, also done by Bash or Bowling Bash for example. Other way is try Swordbreaker (low chance but chance exists). Cross Without Katar = Usually a newbie. This way he'll only be capable to escape and chabge weapon (weapon that probably don't have another Incantation). If you're quick enough, you can easily kill him before he realizes what had happened.

Saludos.-

[fluidin]

Skilled Champ > All other melee jobs, sinx included.

Tbh, skilled sinx will easily own skilled LK. And as a sinx (or anything else for that matter) u should be going into pvp with a prof. nuff' said.

[Larguirucho]

It really depends... Skilled Champ against Skilled Cross i can't say who might win. Champ can always Asura (cowards way?) if things aren't going well, but Cross can easily avoid that (Backslide + Hide or simply hide if not ruwach casted) and 1 shot KO him. Champs also can try Finger Offensive, but Cross can also vvoid that (if can hide before casting ends). The worst case is if Champ has no cast time, there cross has serious problems. Cross has Cloaking, and if Champs doesn't has neither Maya Purple or Box of Sunlight, must find him quickly before Sinx can 1 shot KO easily. Really, who will win depends on:
- Equip (reductions, flee, etc).
- Builds (in order to win, Cross must be 1 shot KO type build and Champ must be a fast caster, the faster the better).
- Tactis (NOT SKILLS, TACTICS, we suppose both are Skilled but has differents tactics, I mean how each one acts).

Saludos.-

[fluidin]

Nah, lol. If the champ is skilled enough reflex and timing-wise, he can snap-escape SB damage everytime.

Asura isn't the coward's way. It IS the champ's way. I never believe in spells that can be outpotted. Like relics said, a mix of FO and Asura is 'best'. However, do note that Champs should prioritize Asura over FO, and not the other way round. If you meet skilled players, there is no way a FO build is going to win the Asura one. Pretty damn impossible to consistently dodge 140 dex and above asuras too.

[Larguirucho]

Nah, lol. If the champ is skilled enough reflex and timing-wise, he can snap-escape SB damage everytime.

Asura isn't the coward's way. It IS the champ's way. I never believe in spells that can be outpotted. Like relics said, a mix of FO and Asura is 'best'. However, do note that Champs should prioritize Asura over FO, and not the other way round. If you meet skilled players, there is no way a FO build is going to win the Asura one. Pretty damn impossible to consistently dodge 140 dex and above asuras too.

I think nobody takes my point. When i said that is coward's way I was talking about Champs that only knows Asura Strike and don't know ANY other skill.
And 140 DEX asura... I used to play with my profe at znro long time ago, and I easily could avoid that asuras... So it's only time and experience, and basic knowledge: NEVER let a Champ come close enough. When i said FO build, i was saying DEX/STR/VIT Build. When i said Asuras Build I was saying DEX/STR/INT/VIT build. Someone who plays FO, knows how to play Asura's way. Someone who always play asura's way, not always knows how to play FO's way... That's the point.

Saludos.-

PS: As I've said, it's OBVIOUS that a mix is the best. And as i've said before too, the one who plays FO's way, knows how to play Asuras way.

[fluidin]

Lol, the modern asura build is DEX/VIT/STR btw. There is no way FO can become your main skill this way. The best champs ive seen around use Asura as their ONLY damage skill, the rest (like FO, which are outpottable) are for tactical purposes. The way i read your previous posts, you make it seem as if FO is your main damage skill, while asura is secondary.

and prof>champ. 140 dex doesnt matter for that. the point of saying 140 dex was for refuting hide-dodging (in woe/group pvp). 1v1 it might still be quite easy for skilled players to hide-dodge high dex asuras.

But yes, i do get your point. I just don't want other readers thinking that FO builds work well against skilled players when you need to asura them.

[Sarin]

As skilled SinX, I have to say that even 140 DEX Asura is quite dodgeable, if you're good enough...you just have to see it coming. In that case, FO would do more good as you won't be burning all your SP in one hit that can fail. In fact...I'd use, against a good SinX, old good PPS+FO combo, given you can actually survive the SB (and frankly...I consider using EDP and Asura, among other WoE 1-shot skills, a cowardice in PvP.).

[fluidin]

I would like to see you call it cowardice when all you're facing are really good players who aren't afraid to go lengths. In that kind of situation you do all you can to win, and FO+PPS is thrown out.

Like i said, 140 dex in 1v1 is quite dodgeable. But try doing that in woe or group pvp during large clashes. No way u can consistently do it.

[Sarin]

Oh, if you charge into the melee you won't. But what are we actually talking about here? 1on1 situations at PvP, no potting.

[fluidin]

meh, thats true. getting too out of topic here.

point is, a good sinx will likely own the LK, even if the LK is good too.