SBk vs EDP

Started by Glenn, Mar 23, 2007, 01:46 PM

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Glenn

Seems pretty good.. You might want to consider less str.. also int doesnt need to be a multiple of 10 as the skill is int based not matk so it wont get the bonus. Vit is arguable, as most SD's just claok attack, and dont plan on getting hit, 40~60 is reasonable imo. Instead of getting more dex, might want to consider Mummy carded weapon, or a Phreeoni if you can get your hands on one.

Additional things.. Elemental Haedonggum's are a must vs monsters. Also might want to consider slotted earings over rings, and a Feather Beret over a Poo Poo Hat. Pest card is nice for armor, but probably also want a Marc/Evildruid. Also Gangster mask over Oxygen.. resist silence.

Its deffinatly a solid start, 85/100
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Lupa

i play on a server with high rates, so getting deadly poisons arent a hastle, but in your case i really don't think that hunting for the karvo's to make the dps are worth your time, use the time it would take to get all those karvo's to hunt for sbk equips and you'll be better off, at least thats what i think.

on my edp build that ive yet to use, i have a little bit of int (16) and the rest just vit, str and dex, but even though it doesn't do that much damage, when i'm against enemies i don't wanna be close to backsliding and sbking is a really good tactic, even if it seems cheap, while with sonic ill have to be close to the enemy.

Glenn

Well I have a creator, so getting karvo's isnt a problem(cultivation yay), and thats really the only hassle item.
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Pandora

I would say EDP + Sonic Blow or even throw knife. It's cheat but effective in PVP/WOE, EDP is also more than efficient for emp taking. As for the poison bottle, if you're part of a guild you can do bio party and you'll get some.

I never played a sin, but I've seen edp used on me and others and I can vouch for it's effectiveness.
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Glenn

I know how good it is, but on lower rate server making the bottles takes some time.. Also a good Soul Breaker can hit realitvely close to a Sonic Blow, the kicker is its ranged attack, and not close combat. I guess its all about preference in the end, both are great skills.
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Leandro

personally y like SB and hybrid (dagger/katar) if you manage to get an ice pick using EDP and a main gauche with orc skel and desert wolf in the other hand you can destroy the emp in a few secconds. y don't use a sinx because i get lazy hunting for karvos but with a creator everything changes. i hate SBk because yo can't kill priests :S  but you rulz the wizards

reva

halo guys
i've just read about this topic
i've question about this
ATK part
-The base damage follows the formula: [(Total ATK - Left Hand Weapon's ATK) * Skill Level]

could you explain me more, i'm sorry because my english poor >.<

i'm playing on a high rate and using a SBk sinx
from what i've read INT is more important than STR?
so it's better to put max STR or INT first?
if I use 4 zipper bear on saber (right hand) will they stack??
because i still don't get the best card combination on right hand >.<

thanks for your reply

Glenn

Zipper bears do Stack.. I'd say the int half is more important though, based on the fact the INT part never misses.

You best weapons are

Tripple Zipper Bear Saber[3]'s, and Elemental Haedonggum's
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Slaw

Okay, I'm too lazy to read all the posts here, so if I'm repeating what someone else's already said, I apologize.

I've played quite a few RO servers in my non-life, and so far my second favourite class after professor has been assassin cross. I'm pretty confident when it comes to my RO knowledge, especially when it comes to the classes I usually play. Assassin crosses have one good build. And that's Enchant Deadly Poison / Sonic Blow. Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is wrong. It's that simple. There is no way in hell that you can top EDP-SB's damage with a Soul Destroyer (Soul Breaker) build. Soul Destroyer has a cast time, insanely long delay, and it lacks in damage. Also, an EDP-SB assassin cross have the bonus of being able to use other good skills, such as Grimtooth and the venom skills. Of course, you'll have the venom skills with a breaker build as well, but I believe it is way more effective as a EDP-SB user, due to your being in close combat most of the time. And do not even forget Grimtooth. There is nothing more annoying than a hidden sin in a chokepoint spamming EDP Grim Tooth during guild wars. You can easily kill most non-vit chars this way, without even having to get close to the battle itself.

Seriously. Do not even touch Soul Destroyer. It is a waste of points for anything but leveling, and leveling is easy as hell as any build with an assassin.

Glenn

Some people like the range, and overall it isn't THAT weak. Probably one of the best ranged attacks, compared to Vulcan/FA/Spiral/ShieldChain. Not to mention some people don't like hunting EDP's all the time. It's all about preference.
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Slaw

I disagree. EDP-SB is way more powerful. If you're lazy enough to actually avoid using the better build for your class, I think you should try another class.

Glenn

Range is very different then close range, some people like different styles. On low rate servers People tend to complain about hunting poison bottles. Not to mention its the best ranged spell in the game, Imo.
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Slaw

The best ranged spell in the game has to be Soul Siphon (Professor Mana Burn). Bottles are horribly easy to get, since they only have one even remotely hard drop to get, which you could easily get 100 or so of in one day. Only difference the range will do is against crusaders/paladins. Instead of getting damage reflected upon you, you'll deal no damage due to defender.

Yes, normally range and melee is very different, but due to Soul Breaker's cast time and delay, the bonuses for having a ranged assault get nullified, since people will be able to catch up to you as soon as you use the skill.

Thantonus

Defender does not work with SBk, neither does reflect. While SB WILL be reflected.And in most cases if you edp'd your dead then.
It may be just the server that i play on, but as far as i know, no changes were made.

Myself, if i am going against a non-pally/'zerked LK, i prefer to get a Soul link, and edp somebody for some massive damage.

Glenn

@slaw

I disagree with Soul Syphon, but that's an opinion. The cast time for SBk is very short, considering you usually get SOME dex. If you do it at a range, they won't catch up to you (if your good at it) then you can just cloak/backslide away. I've seen GOOD SBk'ers, thier actually pretty formidable. Not everyone is a EDP/SL/SB noob.(I say noob, because it's so easy that anyone can pick it up and go around 1 hitting people, it takes little to no skill) >:|
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