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Title: Need help in stalker in DEF and MDEF Super HIgh Rate
Post by: aces189 on Nov 16, 2007, 11:29 PM
i need help , my def and mdef is not that high when people hit me they hit me like 50k 60k but i kill oni for 5k 4k and sometimes they never even get any damage from my attack and sometime oni also 500 or 400 damage ,their DEF and MDEF is high or something strong in the cards , so i need help  PLEASE tell me  /hmm
Title: Re: Need help in stalker in DEF and MDEF Super HIgh Rate
Post by: Amukai on Nov 17, 2007, 07:30 PM
Well I don't know much about DEF and MDEF cards... but these card help.
Maya Card (30 or 50% of reflecting a MATK)
Garm Card (50% to freeze while being attacked)
Tao Gunka (Double HP)
Evil Druid (Protect from SinX poison attacks (SB, MA, Enchant Poison etc.)

Hope I helped
Title: Re: Need help in stalker in DEF and MDEF Super HIgh Rate
Post by: phranxis on Nov 19, 2007, 04:48 AM
correction:
SB and M/\ are not poison attacks.
they are just neutral.
Title: Re: Need help in stalker in DEF and MDEF Super HIgh Rate
Post by: pfja1st on Nov 19, 2007, 01:21 PM
i think SBK n MA r poison attacks if d SINX is using Enchant Poison... i believe dat was his point though... though u r right... i'm just saying d possibility of it... (^_^)
Title: Re: Need help in stalker in DEF and MDEF Super HIgh Rate
Post by: Amukai on Nov 19, 2007, 06:11 PM
Oh ^^;
Yeah, I meant what ofja said, because SinX often use enchant poison/deadly poison
Title: Re: Need help in stalker in DEF and MDEF Super HIgh Rate
Post by: pfja1st on Nov 20, 2007, 02:58 AM
when i encounter a person's point of view and i would understand it right, i feel so blessed! though it rarely happen nowadays... jk (^_^) peace out!
Title: Re: Need help in stalker in DEF and MDEF Super HIgh Rate
Post by: phranxis on Nov 20, 2007, 04:56 AM
w8, i cant get it:
QuoteUses up a Poison Bottle to enchant your weapon. Increases ATK by 150%+50*SkillLV%. Enemies that get hit by the enchanted weapon will randomly receive poison status ailment, and HP will be drained percentage wise very quickly. The chance of poisoning is equal to Assassin's Enchant Poison poison chance. DOES work against Bosses. Note that the element of the attack DOES NOT change to poison, so poison reducing effects (e.g. Armor slotted with Argiope Card) do not reduce the initial strike damage.

and:
QuoteAttack that causes severe damage, because the target is required to have high DEF to be able to withstand this. Damage calculation is a little complicated:
1) Soul Breaker Base Damage = Physical Total Damage + {(SkillLV * Player's INT) * 5} + Random Damage (500 ~ 1000)
2) Final Damage = Soul Breaker Base Damage / Enemy DEF + Soul Breaker Base Damage
This formula may not be totally accurate.
The Element of the attack corresponds to your normal attack element.
Title: Re: Need help in stalker in DEF and MDEF Super HIgh Rate
Post by: pfja1st on Nov 20, 2007, 05:06 AM
ur 1st quote is about enchant dealy poison(d skill of an assassin cross). this skill uses 1 poison bottle for you to be able to use it. ur atk will increase 150% + 50 x skill level. d oder descriptions might be self explanatory 2 u...

ur 2nd quote is all 'bout d skill called soul breaker... it says sbk is so powerful dat an enemy must hav a high def for him to survive such strong skill. as it says; d formula may not be totally correct!
Title: Re: Need help in stalker in DEF and MDEF Super HIgh Rate
Post by: phranxis on Nov 20, 2007, 05:40 AM
i ment, can you change the element of SB if you use enhcant deadly poison.
Title: Re: Need help in stalker in DEF and MDEF Super HIgh Rate
Post by: pfja1st on Nov 20, 2007, 05:43 AM
no. you can not. enchant deadly poison does not enchant your weapon with poison element. your weapon will still be neutral after you use edp.
Title: Re: Need help in stalker in DEF and MDEF Super HIgh Rate
Post by: fead45 on Nov 20, 2007, 04:37 PM
sb = sonic blow and sbk = soul breaker... both skills will not be poison property even if your using edp! and your weapon still remain as it is(whatever property is has)!!! enchant poison in the other hand will certainly make your weapon element change into poison property... with skills, i think it will too. not so sure but i think so!
Title: Re: Need help in stalker in DEF and MDEF Super HIgh Rate
Post by: Tsuki on Jan 05, 2008, 10:09 AM
If you want higher mdefs use Kappa Cards be sure to read the description tho. Also if you wanna make someone's mdef become 0 or whatnot use high wizard card. That helps.
Title: Re: Need help in stalker in DEF and MDEF Super HIgh Rate
Post by: Zone on Jan 05, 2008, 12:08 PM
Quote from: Tsuki on Jan 05, 2008, 10:09 AM
If you want higher mdefs use Kappa Cards be sure to read the description tho. Also if you wanna make someone's mdef become 0 or whatnot use high wizard card. That helps.
Why did you post that here? This is about assassin crosses.
Title: Re: Need help in stalker in DEF and MDEF Super HIgh Rate
Post by: Infection on Jan 05, 2008, 02:21 PM
Quote from: Zone on Jan 05, 2008, 12:08 PM
Quote from: Tsuki on Jan 05, 2008, 10:09 AM
If you want higher mdefs use Kappa Cards be sure to read the description tho. Also if you wanna make someone's mdef become 0 or whatnot use high wizard card. That helps.
Why did you post that here? This is about assassin crosses.
Why did you post that here? This is about Stalkers.
Title: Re: Need help in stalker in DEF and MDEF Super HIgh Rate
Post by: Tsuki on Jan 06, 2008, 06:04 AM
Yeah this is about stalkers. Besides the guy said something about only dealing 500-400 damage and need help. So I suggested the High Wizard card.