Full Strip and its peculiarities and Copied skill

Started by Maeko, Jul 12, 2007, 09:56 AM

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Maeko

Well i have been playing the stalker class in mid rate servers for over a year now and i have a question about full strip.

From what i can see and experimented with it dosent seem Full strip is effect by dex and if it is, not by very much.
i use full resistance build armed with Thara, Beret and Combat knife aswell as angeling with several other armors and to top it all off 40 str, 100 vit and 100 agi. rest goes in int. (vit and agi include bonuses, str does not since im only using it for wieght limit increase.)(yes im aware flee is reduced in woe but that much flee lets me dodge the nub WS in my server with a 75% success rate so i guess it cant be bad)
but as you can see my build has 1+xx dex however i can still manage to strip VERY well and often performe immediate strips more then once in a row.


As for the copied skill section im looking for something new and inovative. my server allows trans copied skills so all i ever see is SBK/SC/AD stalker wanabes that run around thinking they are hax.
as for me my prefered skills thus far are
Aspersio (good with the angeling)
Heal (heal party while potting/tanking others)
Gospel (it removes EVERYTHING including strips i might have gotten)(also good before we atk)
Soul Burn (not only do i strip but i burn also :D)
Flying Side Kick (not sure about other servers but in mine i can kick over the gaps in woe)(mobility skill)
Water Ball 10 (usualy needs a quick reset and a walk to drake but effective if i have a ninja with WET)

thank you in advance for your feedback RMS forum.
greetz Maeko

Glenn

Dex does help strip chances, though usually not much on pvp as players tend to have some dex for the most part. If you have less dex then your(or less then 5 more) enemy, then it wont help at all. Every 5 more dex you have then your enemy is effectivly 1% higher chance to strip.

Heres the formula:
success rate = 5 + 2 * Skill Level + [ (Your DEX - Enemy DEX) / 5 ]

As for wich skill to pick..

You can't get Asperio(pretty sure it has to hurt you)

Heal is always fun. (though your heal wont be TOO great)

Soul Burn would be my pick, unless you server sells SP heals in shops(Or if people are running around with massive amounts of sp heals)

Waterball is also great, if you have a dedicated Water whore.
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Maeko

lol ya ive been accused of hacking before. aspersio is easy to copy but not many people know how. heres how it goes.

Ed armor -> im undead
aspersio me
copied

now, most of you are saying
ASP HURTS UNDEAD!!?!?!?!

yes, however only for 40 dmg. but thats all i need to copy it :p

Glenn

Ah yeah, I never knew it hurt undead. Just looked it up and said you can, was just going off the top of my head.

Though, I'm not convinced it would be a great skill to have.(Unless you DO have angeling armor/ priest to make you bottles) It usually turns into a Dark Water/ Holy Water spam war. Time that could be better spent killing.
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Maeko

im also thinking about that formula, and i use it vs serk LKs mostly :D


i dont think that formula is correct and/or applied in my server since.
DS sniper = 150 dex vs my 1 + 9 dex or so.

so say i had FS 5 for a total of 15% - 140dex/5 (24%) i would have a -9% chance.
i have been mobbed by 3 snipers before and managed to strip all 3 while potting using flying side kick to get from one to the other. and all 3 where 150 dex DS spammers.

now it could be miraculus odds on my part and/or REALLY bad luck on thiers but... it jsut seems wrong. ive tested REGULAR strips with dex an it does effect it in both cast time and success rate. but for FS im still skeptic.. anyone have anythign to add?

Aang-Mike

The dex formula changed. Its not longer effected by dex.

Glenn

Quote from: Maeko on Jul 12, 2007, 01:43 PM
im also thinking about that formula, and i use it vs serk LKs mostly :D


i dont think that formula is correct and/or applied in my server since.
DS sniper = 150 dex vs my 1 + 9 dex or so.

so say i had FS 5 for a total of 15% - 140dex/5 (24%) i would have a -9% chance.
i have been mobbed by 3 snipers before and managed to strip all 3 while potting using flying side kick to get from one to the other. and all 3 where 150 dex DS spammers.

now it could be miraculus odds on my part and/or REALLY bad luck on thiers but... it jsut seems wrong. ive tested REGULAR strips with dex an it does effect it in both cast time and success rate. but for FS im still skeptic.. anyone have anythign to add?


It's always AT LEAST 15%, the second half of the formula only works IF you have MORE dex then your oponent. It can only be a positive integer.

So it would be 5 + 2*5 + (0 / 5) = 15

It uses the same formula as singular divests.
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