Crit VS Sonic Blow

[fuzzywuzzy]

Hey guys. I was just wondering which build would outdamage which, Crit SinX or Sonic Blow SinX? I was thinking it would most likely be Sonic Blow, since you have Sonic Acceleration and Soul Linker help. However, since crits bypass def, and if you have good ASPD, shouldn't it outdamage Sonic Blow since SB has a animation block and what not.

Just curious

BTW, what bonuses does EDP give? All I know is that your ATK goes up but how about ASPD? Is there a formula as how much is gained?

[Descent]

If you drink a poison bottle as a Sin X, you can get a slight ASPD increase, I can't remember the formula offhand(I think it's a percentage). Depending on the server's rates, setup, customization, etc, this usually can end in a wasted effort.

I've had a lot of opinions on Sonic Blow Sin Xs, and I will pretty much just toss it out there. Sonic Blow takes no skill, requires buffs and a link, and most of the time, users of the build talk like they're gods. We had a kid on ArdentRO who just one-shotted everybody with an Infiltrator and thought he was top dog. Until he was divested and then looked like a fool.

SB is fast, one-shot damage that is usually fatal.

Crit is also fast(depending on your server) and the right equipment and a little forethought(such as carrying converter scrolls with you at all times) can usually rip an SB Sin X to shreds. Hell, I've killed SB kids while using a Dual CritSword build on FaithRO, some of their reactions border between priceless and absolutely insane(With my favourite being, "ill find ur house and kill u rl NOOB").

Out of curiosity, what server rates would we be talking here? LR, MR, HR?

[You]

In my opinion, the correct answer is to not play SinX.

If you insist, I'd much rather see a crit SinX than another SB.  I also imagine Crit is more damaging in the long-term, and doesn't take nearly as much setup every time you die.

[blackgh05t]

Natural Crit SinXs have become much more viable with the arrival of the Vanberk card which gives a chance to proc +100 crit for 5(?) seconds.

EDP deals 400% damage.  It does not change your weapon's element.

Bloody Roar bypasses defense too.

Keep in mind SB has the potential to have better survivability because of cranial switching.  With SB, you can land it, and immediately switch to a cranial.  With crit, so such luck.

Also, SB deals damage all at once, and is stack-able.  Crit is more of constant damage.

Hope I helped somewhat.

[fluidin]

If you're really good, or really lousy, play SB. If you're somewhat in the middle, go with Crit.

No, really, SB is for both ends of the extreme. If you're pro, you can wipe anybody more effectively with SB as compared to being Crit. If you're noob, the only way you'll be able to kill is by using SB, although you'll be ripped apart by better players.

If you're talking about DPS wise...Hmm. WoE/PvP/PvM? You do have to provide the setting for such a general question, you know. Also, the potential to 1hko is always better. Who cares if your dps is higher if you're otherwise able to kill anyone in just 1 hit?

[blackgh05t]

Burst DPS -> SB
Constant DPS -> Crit

Lex'd SB's hurt a decent amount in war.

[fluidin]

BTW, it doesn't always stand true that crit has higher DPS. With the right weapon, EDP + Normal hit might be higher DPS than that of Crit. This of course still depends on the DEF of your enemy.

For example, +7 Bloody Roar, Incan Samurai/Thanatos Carded Infi, Ice Pick + Mes[3], etc.

It was always my belief that Dual Daggers > Crit.

[blackgh05t]

Constant High DPS is good on things like the Emp, or things you won't be able to 1 or 2 shot.
High Burst DPS is good for things like WoE, when people's only chance to live would be to out-pot the damage.

Can't think of too many instances where Crit > DD.

DD has the potential of 8 card slots, wheras crit only has 4 with katar type weapons.

I suppose crit's advantage lies in how it will never miss. @.@;

[fluidin]

Unless your opponent has extremely high LUK.

[Poki]

I don't want to bother explaining but simply my opinion is:

Sonic Blow > Crit

[Icaruz]

really depends on your hit, i personally pefer crits cz 1) they have high enuff flee rates depending on build to make SB's miss 2) they in turn can damage the SB-er 3) random crit damages are better than constant misses even with a decent hit

downside is u can't really one hit kill em

[Mathy]

Crit is an outdated build. If you are not built for Sonic Blow, you can't use Assassin's Spirit Link and Sonic Acceleration (passive quest skill).
You know what I did? Went for DD (with Ice Pick) and SB hybrid. The status are so similar and the build gives you enough spare points to do both, not to mention how easy it is to sneak in AND break the Emperium effectively. This build balances your defence and offence, so it works perfectly for me.

[maccc]

Well I don't really use crit sinx builds so i prefer
Sonic Blow < crit