A good counter for SinX?

[MemoZzz]

I was wondering what is a good counter for Cross Assassins? (besides other Assassins). I have tried detect, but they can easily go invisible again. They own in the pvp room due to their countless buffs (Soul Link, Blessing, Increase AGI, Assumptio). It's really hard to kill them unless people gang up on them.

[A92FL0163]

Have you tried Poison Armour and Status Weapons? Most of them avoid at maximum taking any hit, be it magical or physical, your best way is to use a bleeding weapon (Say, a weapon with 4 savage babe), and use status inflicting skills, like Envenom, Hammer Fall, Bash, Double Strafe, Melody Strike and many others. You also must have most of your equips on BM to keep changing between shields, because if you mitigate way too much Sonic Blow damage and hit them, they will avoid being close and start abusing SBK, which you will need to get a horn card to lower it.

OR, you can just get Valkyrie Randgris Cards/Professor and make him dispel the Assassin, as you said, they have countless buffs, a simple dispel can bring all their work down in a matter of seconds, then just assault him with magical spells till they die, but I don't think it will be possible, since he will disconnect to rebuff at the same time you debuff him.

Since you're a hunter, you should start abusing traps on PvP, I'm pretty sure 100% Assassins fall on traps(Even if they know it) and get revealed, don't use Ankle Snare, since you do not know if he activate it until it fades and they still can SBK you, you can revolve from: Shockwave Trap (Mid fight to outlast his invisible), Mine Trap ( I believe it deals stun), Claymore (The utility of this trap is that sometimes people click on it believing they are targeting you, and accidentally hit the trap, showing their positions). If they aren't falling for them, just Arrow Shower around the trap, it moves it. When you're arrow showering, there is a GIANT chance that he will appear, so keep changing between effect Bows and Arrows. Prefer Silence Arrow and Stun Weapon, if you silence, he won't be able to cloak/uncloak at his will, which causes him to waste a good amount of SP, and if silenced, he can't one hit you. Stun if for obvious Reasons. Since I know most of the Hunters are Falconers, I'd say every time you stun him to cast at maximum falcon assault, most of the times that end up with 60% of their HP.

Well, this is in theory, in application it will be a lot harder.

[MemoZzz]

I have a sniper, but it is not my main character. Poison armor sounds like a great idea. I will try it out and see how it goes. As for dispel, MvP Cards are out of question in my server.

[fluidin]

Professor. Paladin, Champion.

There is no real counter though (except for the Prof, which counters everything if played right). The Paladin, if he's good, will know which EQs to wear and when, and kill the Sinx with reflect. Champion is a "whose reaction times and button mashing are faster" kind of battle.

Whitesmith might stand a chance with good enough EQs. AD Creos too. They have to survive the SB first, of course.

However, if a buffed Sinx has a Incan Sam carded Infil, only a Tao Gunka carded char can resist that, most likely. It also depends on how much your opponent is willing to spend. If you meet one willing to spam Royal Jellies, you're pretty much screwed unless he has low VIT, or you can Sleep/Freeze/Stone Curse him.

[A92FL0163]

Damn I forgot about the Paladins.  Whitesmith are the best at inflicting stun and can outspeed Assassins by a lot, and with a Horong Card, he can literally rain CT at a Assassin Head, a long with obviously the equip break.
I just hope your server isn't those 9000000000000000000000000 Level with 900000000000000000 Vitality and 9000000000000000000000000000000000000000  Statuses Resist, because if it is, all I said is crap ;-;

Poison Armor saves you from 2 or 3 first hits, but if he knows how to play, he will soon switch weapon and get Neutral Element, and if he is REALLY pro, he will get Enchants before getting into PvP, which will own you.

[MemoZzz]

Nah... server is a 99/70 for trans. 99 max stat. I don't think this assassin's are "good." They just know that a Cross Assassin with Infiltrator and buffs kill almost anything, which is kind of lame. I just saw a guy that had an Argiope carded armor and the Cross Assassin "Why don't you get any damage?"~ Funny...

[DemonEyes]

many many ways to kill a sinx, first surround yourself with traps, so he/she cant sb u and kill you  in 1 shot o-o, sinxs most of the time on a 99/70 server have low hp(unless they have a tao card) so get a couple good hits in and hes/shes dead, back to pvp, after you surround yourself with traps he/she will probably switch to using soul breaker, switch armors so he/she hits less, constantly use detect on him/her right after u detect hit them with a skill double strifing or use arrow shower to get him out of cloak while also damaging him/her and than use a good attack skill right after, eventually dead sinx


P.S. Parameters ankle snare is never a good thing when facing a sinx in pvp because they can just backslide outa it, tho WoE its really good cause the sinx cant use backslide but that's off topic

[fluidin]

A better armour than Argiope would be ED, since it provides immunity to Stone and Freeze too.

And no, sinxs don't have low HP O.o A 50 VIT Sinx should have around 13k+ HP with decent gears, in fact.

[DemonEyes]

A better armour than Argiope would be ED, since it provides immunity to Stone and Freeze too.

And no, sinxs don't have low HP O.o A 50 VIT Sinx should have around 13k+ HP with decent gears, in fact.

that's still pretty low compared to other classes =/ also with high dex sinipers can be hitting around 2-3k per double strife, so depends on who know how to play

[fluidin]

The heck, 13k HP is high already. Only LKs and Palas get higher O.o And that's with 50 VIT only.

For example, only max VIT High Priests and Clowns can hit 13k+.

BTW, a Sniper with 160 DEX and +10 Double Hydra Double SW Comp Bow doesn't even hit me for 2-3k. More like 1k+. You just have to upgrade your EQs to +7 and higher and use Noxious 

[Dean Stark]

You could annoy em by getting some Boxes of Sunlight. I love it when they say you hacked the server since you can see em hiding/cloaking.

http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?iname=sunlight&page=item_db&isearch=Search&itype=-1
http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?iname=ryang&page=item_db&isearch=Search&itype=-1

But you need at least a server w/ a warp access to Gefenia so you can farm em via False Angels. Also, if they don't have Marc/ED then you could also go for Frost Joke and AV em. As far as i know, the average SinX goes into pvp w/o resetting from his agi/str pvm build.

[Sarin]

Speaking from a position of good SinX, the only char that ever could counter me quite good was Champ with Maya P. card.

ED, Argiope...all that works only against noobish SinX that don't know what converters are for.

Facing a good SinX, your only chance is to oneshot them before they do the same to you. Asura works best for this purpose, as Ruwach hit provides you with a little time needed to do it.

Some classes can survive SB. Without link, Heavily armored WS, LK or Pally can do. That counters all that lame SB builds, but if the SinX knows what grimtooth and backslide are, he can easily kill those too...except pallies, where some strategies are needed, But it is doable.

[fluidin]

Hmm?

Sarin, pretty sure a good prof could counter you too. BTW, beware of Champs using Horong. My server actually has this one player which uses Sight as opposed to Ruwach most of the time, as it doesn't have that stupid 'delay' thing Ruwach has.

I've hide-dodged in Ruwaches, but never could do so in a Sight.

Actually, you'll be surprised that some classes with the right eqs can survive SB even with Link. Yes, endowed SB. Thus, it's always better to try and get Poem buff too, for double-SB. That'll kill almost anyone, excluding TGK users.

[Sarin]

Good prof...well, I haven't met good enough one...maybe if he had boxes of sunlight and was prepared on my attack he could do something, but doubt it. I am not that noobish full SB type.

Against no reductions, fully buffed SinX can pull off 40k SB with Bloody Roar in PvP. Even with full reductions, there are just three classes that could possibly survive that...LK, paladin, SinX. If they have full vit and full reductions.

[fluidin]

Hmm? Most profs in PvP I see are always in their SW + WoF, which is really annoying. They outpot Grimtooth easily in those conditions.

If you ever get caught out of Cloaking, it's a straight Web+Dispel+Stone Curse spam. The high DEX ones are the worst. After catching you, they start spamming Firebolt, Coldbolt and LBolt, and if you even miss switching armors properly once, gg. Good ones would try to catch you switching out of ED; thus I tried using Medusa. Turns out the missing Thara Frog still hurts too much for comfort.

2x Imp and Siroma cards are really painful :/ Of course, with MDEF gear their spells are a joke, but w/o them, woe be to you. And profs don't come into PvP alone. Mostly it's with a fellow Champ or Sinx :X

Oh nvm, I realised that the reason I could survive Linked SBs were because Profs are Dispel whores in my server. Like, they freaking spam it =.=