[Non-Renewal] Minimum survivability for a SB/Emp breaker SinX

Started by jblazer, Apr 03, 2012, 07:42 AM

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jblazer

This is a 99/70 server. 13.2 no customs, our WoE consists of about 3-4 guilds each would have around a dozen players defending. (Mostly paladins/wizards in emp room)

For obvious reasons I want to invest as little as possible in vit stat/defensive items and most into offense. But at the same time have enough to survive the onslaught of spells that is to come when emp breaking or being focused in general.

I've never WoE with sinx, but I plan to use mine with lot's of debuffing such as slug drill katar,  grimtooth status spreading, owl baron card lexing..etc which is all dependent on attack speed to be effective)

I already know how to switch into my feather beret, combat knife & cranial after a SB. What I'm really worried about is making it through the emp room defense line and surviving when everyone is focusing me during emp break.

questions:
-How much VIT would be your minimum recomondation?
(I'm gonna use static golem + valk shield to compensate for this, until I get a orc hero card)
- Is putting whisper boss over noxious to risky? (switching headgear,armor,weapon,accessories during combat is already to much macro)
- I'm using whites as pot spam, should I hotkey other potions and spam 2-3 healing items at once?

Hopefully detailed enough to get good advice, thanks.

edit: also it's a 9/9/4 server I can't take mvp card suggestions.

blackgh05t

Although I've never attempted what you've described, I can give a few tips for passing a precast and try to answer your questions.

VIT Recommendation : If their precast only consists of wizards, a slotted fire armor with a Marc is a fairly good idea since the majority of hurt is coming from the Meteor storm. If AD biochemists aren't a problem, then pushing your VIT towards the high end isn't necessarily too dangerous. A large health pool might be what you need to bypass the precast. I recommend a health pool of 15k or so.

Noxious vs Whisper Boss: If you're talking about surviving a precast, I'd go noxious here. 10% less damage from all that magic is really going to add up. A Proxy Skin Fragment might offer some extra resistances against the elements. I'm hoping your headgear is a drooping cat for the extra MDEF.

White Pots : White pots are good, but a tad on the heavy side and low on the heal / keypress. If the white pots aren't ranked, I would switch to Mastela Fruits and Royal Jellies.
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fluidin

ooh woe:fe. its really been a long time huehue

nah dont go slotted marc fire armor. even if the  majority is spamming MS a good guild will still have someone doing amped SGs.

sinxs with 100vit are fine as long as they are tanking precasts with cranial. if they're using purely/mostly wiz and snips, use horn/jakk. if mostly snips and ad chemists, horn/nox. if not, cranial/nox. if they have bad champs that cant optimize damage, cranial/rayd.

if u manage to have a paladin to rush into emp room and devote u, and their precast largely consists of ad chems, do consider the dark bac 1 vit stun immune set. then u can wear jakk to tank MS and stuff. and yeah, go for proxies everytime. don't go drooping lol. fb is better :/ unless you're doing 1 vit stun immunity

dont just be statusing, why would you give up what pre woe:se sinxs could do? which is to destroy. use dem BG katars and wreck with edp gt.


dont use stun res stuff, a mixture almost never works, unless you're playing rwc. always go for 100% stun res or full vit instead. dazzler spam will always stunlock someone in the middle. like i said, dont depend on OH, go for dark bac. i'm not certain whether 13.2 has satan morroc tho lol. if it doesnt, just go for vit build.

whisperboss is really risky. only whip it out if you are really good at switching, or when the enemy killers area dead and u need to take down pesky paladins and profs.

spam them however u feel will be most effective. 1 slot is fine tho imo if u can spam it fast enough. used ranked whites or mastelas instead. unless u feel u can get away with normal whites, which just means subpar enemies, lol.
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

jblazer

Ah ok thanks for replies, been a few days since I made this thread.

QuoteVIT Recommendation : If their precast only consists of wizards, a slotted fire armor with a Marc is a fairly good idea since the majority of hurt is coming from the Meteor storm. If AD biochemists aren't a problem, then pushing your VIT towards the high end isn't necessarily too dangerous. A large health pool might be what you need to bypass the precast. I recommend a health pool of 15k or so.

15k seems rather overkill to me. If I can't survive with 10-12k what difference does it make getting 15k? Although that's just my inexperienced guess. :D

QuoteNoxious vs Whisper Boss: If you're talking about surviving a precast, I'd go noxious here. 10% less damage from all that magic is really going to add up. A Proxy Skin Fragment might offer some extra resistances against the elements. I'm hoping your headgear is a drooping cat for the extra MDEF.

I'll be using noxious for sure during precast, possibly jakk or raydric handy for meteor storm or acid demo. It all depends on what characters there are inside. A proxy as wonderful as 7% reduction to all elements is, I don't have a party to hunt it. And the people who do have it wont sell it. I'm slotting noxious in a +7 wool instead.

Also drooping reduces 10% to only magical attacks. But FB reduces 10% to everything, including magic. As well can be refined for defense. /hmm

QuoteWhite Pots : White pots are good, but a tad on the heavy side and low on the heal / keypress. If the white pots aren't ranked, I would switch to Mastela Fruits and Royal Jellies.

I'll for sure be doing white pots/mastela hunting when I decide to finish sign quest. Since Incubus drop white herbs/mastela quite nicely, I'm sure it's enough pot spam. The royal jelly/ranked pots might be better but much slower to farm.

This server has gym passes which give enlarge weight limit 10 and I'll have 95+ STR so it's no prob how heavy they are.

Quote from: fluidin on Apr 05, 2012, 11:30 PM
dont use stun res stuff, a mixture almost never works, unless you're playing rwc. always go for 100% stun res or full vit instead. dazzler spam will always stunlock someone in the middle. like i said, dont depend on OH, go for dark bac. i'm not certain whether 13.2 has satan morroc tho lol. if it doesnt, just go for vit build.

You're right about a mixture not working. I just tested with the calc and put 50 vit and got 50% stun resist, but with valk armor+statalic golem it was 86%... still could be enough to cause a death and the golem card is a waste of a slot.

What items give 100% stun resist? I'm not at all interested in playing a 100 vit sinx, so the stun resist items sounds interesting what is the set? got me all curious  /ok

also I don't know what rwc/dazzler spam/OH is supposed to mean.

fluidin

rwc = ragnarok world championships
dazzler spam = gypsies spamming dazzler/scream/whatever its called
OH = orc hero

stun immune set = (for merch/sin/swordsman classes) valk armor and stac golem carded dark bacilium.

for mage classes, full bg set, stac golem carded dark bac, and flame skull carded shield.

if dark bac is not available, u can do valk armor stac golem carded headgear and flame skull carded shield for merch/sin/swordsman classes

which means u can go 1vit and be fully stun resistant. if no one else on ur server knows this info, use it wisely  /gg


as for your other points, 3-5k hp diff is huge. it means being better able to outpot dps and survive non-optimized asuras. also, saving ur paladin if they are devoting u.

the other points i've gone over already and based on ur responses you're aware of them
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.