Would my paladin be able to tank an MvP?

Started by Gibbon, Oct 02, 2009, 06:37 AM

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Gibbon

I have a paladin on a private server with 50x/50x/? rates. The server has no donation items.

My current paladin is a devotion paladin which has 26011 hitpoints, 45 DEF and 34 MDEF.

stats:

Str: 41+9
dex: 57+8
Int: 66+7
agi: 3+8... don't ask...
VIT: 99+29
Luk: 1+5

My question is if I would be able to tank MvPs like Atroce, Valkyrie (not Randgris! she's too mean T-T) or Orc Lord?

my equipment is:

full +4 Goibne's set
fin helm
Iron Cain
quadruple Vital Pike
+6 Valk shield (still not sure what card to use here)
2 x spore rosary
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Any suggestions to what I could do to add to my effectiveness as a Devo paladin, or to add to my survivability as main-tank in MvPing would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks in advance.

Gibbon.




Relics

Most likely, yes, with proper assumptio and safety wall support.. you should be able to tank a good 80% of the MvP's.

Orc lord is quite hard because of earthquake, I think with res support or the soullinker buff you should be able to pull it off.
To be honest, all MvP's that have earthquake automatically lower your chances of tanking it by a huge amount without decent support.

You could put an alice card in your valk shield, but it depends.. since some MvP's have insanely strong mobs (bio3, vesper etc).

Err, goibne and valk shield is good, but don't forget the stone buckler, odin's and magni cap set, it works like a charm vs some hard hitting melee MvP's.

There's also some MvP's like incantation, orc hero, doppleganger who do spiral pierce, without pneuma or assumptio this REALLY really hurts. I suggest you use errende, and keep spacing around untill the distance is 2 cells between the MvP and you while you're pneuma'd.

fluidin

definitely alice card in that valk shield.

goibne doesn't cut it. get some high-overupgraded standard eqs like your helms, fullplates and whatnot to be more flexible with ur card selections.

what would greatly add to your survivability as a mvp tank? two things. (or one thing depending on how you see it) assump and safety wall. which both fall under the high priest category.

sht relics was faster :x
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Gibbon

Okay will work on getting myself an Alice card. How about the Devo-side of my build, where it's all about having the highest hitpoints possible to enable the devoed targets to take as much damage as possible without me dying.

Are there any options that would increase my current Max Hitpoints? besides a Tao Gunka card, which honestly, I won't be able to acquire at all.


Thanks,

Gibbon.

Anti-Static Foam Cleaner

Pretty much all Satan Morroc equips give you HP or SP.

fluidin

Wool tidals might give u more HP with your vit and hp-modifier, i'm not so sure.

BG set gives you even more iirc tho.
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Gibbon

Quote from: Anti-Static Foam Cleaner on Oct 02, 2009, 07:55 AM
Pretty much all Satan Morroc equips give you HP or SP.

Well the thing is that ithe Goibne's set gives me about 6500 Hitpoints. I'm having trouble finding something that still has the same good defense bonus to both def and mdef and giving that kind of hp at the same time.

I tried wool and tidals... they're worse.

fluidin

what are you going for as though? devo-mvp or devo-woe?

because devo-mvp wise, i guess the goibne will do for most mvps, barring the ones that you have to bring ele armors for.

if it's for woe, please drop it. and oh, i meant the wooltidals being better than the satan morroc set.
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Relics

#8
Tidal wool gives you more options for cards, such as anti ele cards in your garment.
It also allows you to use marc and whatnot in your armor slot..

basically, being able to use -ele cards and armor cards is a lot better than being restricted to none, even if it means a difference of ~2k-3k hp.

Triper

One Phrase - more hp doesn't mean being able to tank better.

Example:
Paladin number 1 - Gets 2k per hit with 30k hp.
Paladin number 2 - Gets 200 per hit with 20k hp.

Who tanks better? Make your own decision ^^

Reduces and high def > high hp except for a pure devo at pvm.

Gibbon

I highly agree, but my reasoning for having the highest hp as possible isn't for the "tanking" side of my character, but for the devotion side.

I have done some research and found a lord knight build which is superior in being the main-tank compared to my paladin.

I will keep my paladin as a devotion paladin, where all that matters is how high your hp can go.


Thank you all for your help, I finally figured out my issue  :)

fluidin

Note that even as pure devo you will still want some def and reductions.

You could become forced to go off-tank if the main tank dies, or the MVP you're fighting has wide range AoE skills.
Quote from: Jeon on Jun 04, 2009, 12:02 PM
XileRo is the only HR I know that has a reasonable PvP system. I did watch the RWC like you said, all I see is people spamming the room like every other gang fight there is in RO.

Gibbon

My current setup should have most of the requirements for off-tanking.
He is by no means squishy, he just isn't built to be the main-tank.

I will ofcourse still work on getting that Alice card incase I get forced into tanking the MvP in place of the main-tank.


Annihilate

Quote from: Gibbon on Oct 02, 2009, 06:37 AM
I have a paladin on a private server with 50x/50x/? rates. The server has no donation items.

My current paladin is a devotion paladin which has 26011 hitpoints, 45 DEF and 34 MDEF.

stats:

Str: 41+9
dex: 57+8
Int: 66+7
agi: 3+8... don't ask...
VIT: 99+29
Luk: 1+5

My question is if I would be able to tank MvPs like Atroce, Valkyrie (not Randgris! she's too mean T-T) or Orc Lord?

my equipment is:

full +4 Goibne's set
fin helm
Iron Cain
quadruple Vital Pike
+6 Valk shield (still not sure what card to use here)
2 x spore rosary
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Any suggestions to what I could do to add to my effectiveness as a Devo paladin, or to add to my survivability as main-tank in MvPing would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks in advance.

Gibbon.








I got a kind-of twisted view on things so please exercise caution:


1. on shield card I would go for Hodremlin or Alice. Hodremlin if you dont have a wiz in the party so MVP mobs will actually hit u a lot. The 30 perfect dodge will trigger a lot. Alice if there is a wiz/HP w/ SW, because most of the damage will just come from the MVP itself.

2. I am not sure about this, but I think you should get a Vit-Type vesper core instead, if it exists.

3. If Devo gets dispelled when Stone Cursed or Frozen, you may wanna check your armor. Goibne Body armor has no resistances against these stuff.

Gibbon

Indeed it would be a bad thing if my devo broke or got dispelled. This however, has yet to happen as the range of devotion is fairly long if you position yourself correctly.

I usually manage to stay out of harms way of both the MvP and the mobs. I am usually one of the safer members in the party unless the situation calls for me to run in and tank the mobs while the main-tank gets his hp back.

As for the vesper-core there are no "legit" cores that grants a bonus to VIT, from what I know.

Thanks for the advice though :)


-Gibbon