Sager (Crusader-Sage)

verong0221 · May 16, 2009, 12:45 PM

would it be nice to have a sager?
im thinking if it would be nice to have a paladin that auto casts meteor storm (DL + Di card), a pneuma (errecee ebedde card), auto bash w/ knock out (bongun), auto frost joke (violy), auto quagmire (punk card) each time you recieve physical damage..

the auto pneuma is for snipers to miss (since long ranged attack dont reflect)
another compulsary item is valkyrie manteau for a double reflect (which would make u a tank since u have double reflect already),

another reflect is a maya card, which is usefull in woe to easily kill the precast area..

and im thinking also to put TGK card (since i only have 60 vit, that have around 16k hp, and if i used TGK it would be doubled and have a maxhp of 32k, +it reduces my armor so the reflect would be more painful for those melees)

my weapon would be fireblend or coltbolt, or if have zeny i would have 1 dopel 3 SK card..
my stats would be 50 str, 60 vit, 50 agi, 95 int, and 30 dex..

i would also be a grand cross type..

would it be nice to level up at juperos seeing 3 meteor storms? and replacing the maya for a card that auto stone curse (forgot the name of the card)...

a discussion about this build would be appreciated..
since i only tried this at a private sever, i want to do this at Philippine ragnarok Online (pRO)..

horo · May 16, 2009, 02:03 PM

I suggest you stop playing HR and start playing a decent LR in order to learn the game, as that post is so full of errors and idiocy that I won't even bother to start correcting lest I get a headache.

A92FL0163 · May 16, 2009, 02:09 PM

Quote from: verong0221 on May 16, 2009, 12:45 PM
another reflect is a maya card, which is usefull in woe to easily kill the precast area..

No.

verong0221 · May 16, 2009, 02:38 PM

it works well in LR, im playing in official ragnarok, Philippine Ragnarok Online..
i quitted playing HR RO 99 years ago.. lol

aniweiz, it works well in pRO.. as i can clear the pre cast emp especially if im in kaite,. i leveled so fast in juperos since im like spamming meteor storm every second lol..
Posted on: May 16, 2009, 06:37 am

http://www.waukster.com/1st-insane-build/

mind reading this link? thx..

LiteX · May 16, 2009, 02:41 PM

Quote from: Parameters on May 16, 2009, 02:09 PM
Quote from: verong0221 on May 16, 2009, 12:45 PM
another reflect is a maya card, which is usefull in woe to easily kill the precast area..

No.

Maya only works with single target-magics

@verong that link has too much HR material on it, impossible to get on LRs/MRs

horo · May 16, 2009, 03:05 PM

Actually Maya card works with any spell that isn't ground based.

A92FL0163 · May 16, 2009, 03:20 PM

Quote from: verong0221 on May 16, 2009, 02:38 PM
it works well in LR, im playing in official ragnarok, Philippine Ragnarok Online..
i quitted playing HR RO 99 years ago.. lol

aniweiz, it works well in pRO.. as i can clear the pre cast emp especially if im in kaite,. i leveled so fast in juperos since im like spamming meteor storm every second lol..
Posted on: May 16, 2009, 06:37 am
http://www.waukster.com/1st-insane-build/

mind reading this link? thx..

Cool story, bro.

horo · May 16, 2009, 03:36 PM

the only thing not stupid from that link is the grammar surprisingly.

Relics · May 16, 2009, 04:44 PM

This has to be a troll, jesus christ..

sage goes in every field***

Sanin · May 16, 2009, 11:44 PM

Hot damn.

99 years ago? Christ you're old!

Also why would a Paladin need to use Pnuema if Defender pretty much eats arrows? Unless they get dispelled or something...

And yeah, most of the stuff you need is pretty darn hard to get, and a bit to easy to counter. For one thing a Whitesmith's Cart Termination won't get reflected and they can land a couple of good hits on you before Quagmire activates.

And, err...Double Reflect? You'll only have, if the Manteau is magically +10, a 65% Reflection rate. Also there's the fact that if you plan to use Grand Cross you aren't going to exactly have a decent way of reducing the backlash from the skill.

I was trolled, wasn't I?

A92FL0163 · May 16, 2009, 11:57 PM

Verong, firstly, once you put your face on the emp room, three things will happen:

1. You'll be trapped on the spot, or somewhere near the precast.
2. You'll be either: Divested (If close to the end of the traps, meaning no shield) or Dispelled (If far from the end)
3. Then what will happen? You will be left there, nobody would fix their aim on a palladin who does nothing but "LOL XD REFLECT KAWAII"
3.1. Frost since no Unfrost Armor
3.2. No Shield = No Defensive Reflect
3.3. Massive Status-ed if the enemy have a experienced Hunter dealing statuses. (Silence, Stun, Curse, Poison and even slow down if they are really into it)
4. Die from the basic precast since you would be Meteor Storming the entrace, enhancing the precast for guilds that aren't yours.
5.

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6. FAIL!

This would happen every time, if a guild let their melee jump on you on the precast entrace, like it was on your plan, then that guild is freaking retarded, Melees are supposed to take out the ones that can get after the precast, next to the emperium.
Also, your damage would be ridiculous, I mean, seriously, Level 3 MS is kinda devastating if casted by a HWiz, but when it comes from a Paladin, you can guess the damage will be lowered to at least 90%.

itrollu

P.S: KAITE, 3 HITS, OUT.

LiteX · May 17, 2009, 12:10 AM

Quote from: horo on May 16, 2009, 03:36 PM
the only thing not stupid from that link is the grammar surprisingly.

That link contains such a fail build, I spotted these fails:
1) Divest pretty much kills the build
2) Damage will be low as hell since you can't really use non-autocast crap
3) MvP Cards are overly used
4) Bapho Cards do not cast autocast cards
5) High DPS chars would pretty much kill this failbuild
6) The "Significance in WoE" is way too screwed up, this will just make you a crappy char in WoE

I really do NOT reccomend this build, wheter a low rate, mid rate, high rate or super high rate.

verong0221 · May 17, 2009, 02:15 AM

pm `~verOng0221 in pRO.. 1x1x1 rate server.. official server.. not just a free 2 play server..

geez,, in pRO, theres always a Creator/Biochemist bot that always puts Full Protection on its guild member..

ok, that maya thing, i can change it with GTB for me not to be dispelled..
im also planning to buy OHS in the near future..

i dont have +10v.mant but i have +9 for my main and +7s for switch manteaus..
really, i dont want to have a bapho card, thats why im using fireblend..

geezzzzz, im using /bm, i can switch armors that easily, i can switch to unfro in no time..

the stun wont be a prob in the near future, i would be buying OH,
the other status ailments is not a problem to, i have Valk Armor,

my meteor storm damage won't be lower, im planning to change my punk card to a salamander card..
Posted on: May 16, 2009, 06:06 pm

and correction on u guys, its lvl 5 meteor storm.. geez, we're talking about a official server here, not a private server, its a Pay2Play server.,
Posted on: May 16, 2009, 06:12 pm

BAPHO card would be use for mobbing (leveling)..

horo · May 17, 2009, 02:31 AM

I'll have to congratulate an official server for being worse than any but the worst private servers.

verong0221 · May 17, 2009, 02:38 AM

question:

what if i kill my agi and put it up on vit?
then have a gc type+ auto cast meteor type + devo type?
Posted on: May 16, 2009, 06:36 pm

oh yeah? pRO got third place in the 2008 RPC..
y don't u visit pRO and make ur lvl 99 trascender for 2 months and try to show ur soooooo pro. build