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Offline jizmo

Question about Spiral Pierce LK
« on: Dec 08, 2015, 10:13 AM »
Hi,

Just some quick questions regarding spiral pierce. I'm currently of the understanding spiral pierce was hit by a nerf at some point in the past. Upon searching, I've found that the skill was reworked as a part of episode 14. What I want to know is if this is the nerf people are talking about? and if it is .... that leads me to my next question.

If spiral pierce was nerfed in episode 14, and I'm playing on a classic server (low rate) that is only using up to episode 12 ... does that mean I am on a server where spiral pierce isn't nerfed? I just love the idea of being a spiral pierce LK but want to plan ahead on whether or not I should do it. Also, if the server I'm on does have a nerfed spiral pierce, is it still a viable build? I will mainly be a PVE LK but will also attend regular WoE's when it becomes available. I will PVP a little bit but not much. I mainly wish to slaughter monsters and especially MVP's. I don't intend to do these things solo so a bard will accompany me for MVPing and lvling parties.

Any information regarding this skill would be greatly appreciated.

THANKS!

P.S. Even if spiral pierce isn't the strongest PVP/WoE build I'm extremely happy if it can be the strongest PVE build with bragi.

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Offline ggwp

Re: Question about Spiral Pierce LK
« Reply #1 on: Dec 08, 2015, 11:13 AM »
Episode 14 are Renewal.

Offline jizmo

Re: Question about Spiral Pierce LK
« Reply #2 on: Dec 08, 2015, 10:53 PM »
So that means any pre-renewal server doesn't have the reworked spiral pierce. Do you happen to know when the spiral pierce was nerfed? Was it shortly after the release of rebirth classes? I've done a spiral pierce build once before and it raped with bragi. What I want to know is if this 'nerf' that I've heard people say "Makes spiral pierce useless now" happened after I used a spiral pierce build or if it was before. If people are saying that spiral pierce build sucks now because it doesn't one hit people? (I never one-hit people who had pvp builds) If anyone could give me a time frame of this so-called nerf it would be great :)

The reason I'm asking is because if there was a nerf that I don't know of that made spiral pierce damage really weak then I don't want to do it. If it has the same damage that I had in a previous server a few years back then I'm happy to do it again. The server I'm currently playing is 1-3x rates and does not have a reset, so I don't want to get my build wrong :P

Offline Triper

Re: Question about Spiral Pierce LK
« Reply #3 on: Dec 09, 2015, 01:45 AM »
I believe the "Spiral nerf" was made when renewal was introduced [or right after the introduction of that 2k weight cash shop spear? something like that] so you, I hope, have nothing to fear.

Still, imo, you should ask the staff about it, they made the server, they're supposed to know what they implemented.

Offline Playtester

Re: Question about Spiral Pierce LK
« Reply #4 on: Dec 09, 2015, 03:02 AM »
You never know what kind of modifications your staff does to your server. For example just because a private server says he has episode 11.3 doesn't mean the staff actually went through the effort and restore the old trap-multi-trigger bug.

With Spiral Pierce I think you are safe, though. As long as your server owner compiles the server as pre-renewal it should have its pre-renewal behavior.

Offline jizmo

Re: Question about Spiral Pierce LK
« Reply #5 on: Dec 09, 2015, 07:58 AM »
Awesome, thanks guys!

Offline ggwp

Re: Question about Spiral Pierce LK
« Reply #6 on: Dec 10, 2015, 01:54 AM »
13.3 (renewal/3rd job comes) Spiral pierce is buffed
- able to use with 2 handed sword
- increased damage ratio
- gloomy shyness triple the damage

2nd global class balance patch (around 14.1) its nerfed
- reduced damage ratio
- gloomy shyness random damage increase (115-200%)
- bio 4 paladin mvp drops 2k weight spear