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Title: Pre Renewal Paladin woe build need help
Post by: Krait on May 07, 2017, 06:30 AM
I'm planning to woe with my paladin and I need help with my gears. Am I ready? Do I need to change anything? Should I remove the reductions and just take more hp stuff? My HP is 24k atm and that armor has +3 dex enchantment
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Title: Re: Pre Renewal Paladin woe build need help
Post by: Zereges on May 07, 2017, 07:55 AM
How many people are in the guild and how many guild are there?
Title: Re: Pre Renewal Paladin woe build need help
Post by: Krait on May 07, 2017, 08:28 AM
Quote from: Zereges on May 07, 2017, 07:55 AM
How many people are in the guild and how many guild are there?

Around 25ppl in guild and in woe there are 4-6 guilds fighting
Title: Re: Pre Renewal Paladin woe build need help
Post by: flipflop9000 on May 07, 2017, 10:51 AM
You're better off with an AoA(3dex) or a Ramen Hat(4dex), depending on availability. Robo Eye instead of Blush. You might wanna use Horn+Nox, assuming you're in 4th/5th? line. Also, I would pick V.shield over Brad shield since the "primary damage" you'll get is mostly from FAS in addition to the damage from your devoees, but that also depends on your devo targets(ie 2 high vit chars vs 1 high vit char are two very different scenarios).

You can keep the Cranial+Immune when running around the castle to respawn if there are lots of champs.

tldr:
get max dex
get max long range redux
demi human redux to switch
vshied vs brad shield = situational
Title: Re: Pre Renewal Paladin woe build need help
Post by: m3ltzer on May 07, 2017, 12:02 PM
what server is this ?
Title: Re: Re: Pre Renewal Paladin woe build need help
Post by: Krait on May 07, 2017, 03:26 PM
Quote from: TheRealProverbs on May 07, 2017, 10:51 AM
You're better off with an AoA(3dex) or a Ramen Hat(4dex), depending on availability. Robo Eye instead of Blush. You might wanna use Horn+Nox, assuming you're in 4th/5th? line. Also, I would pick V.shield over Brad shield since the "primary damage" you'll get is mostly from FAS in addition to the damage from your devoees, but that also depends on your devo targets(ie 2 high vit chars vs 1 high vit char are two very different scenarios).

You can keep the Cranial+Immune when running around the castle to respawn if there are lots of champs.

tldr:
get max dex
get max long range redux
demi human redux to switch
vshied vs brad shield = situational

But isn't red tailed ribbon and blush better? becouse I can get 159 dex with food + box of gloom so I don't need extra dex I quess? How about playstyle in woe, some ppl say that I should use bash to move in woe. How? I'm kinda new to woe so I don't know these tricks
Title: Re: Re: Re: Pre Renewal Paladin woe build need help
Post by: flipflop9000 on May 07, 2017, 10:24 PM
Quote from: Krait on May 07, 2017, 03:26 PM
But isn't red tailed ribbon and blush better? becouse I can get 159 dex with food + box of gloom so I don't need extra dex I quess? How about playstyle in woe, some ppl say that I should use bash to move in woe. How? I'm kinda new to woe so I don't know these tricks

159 or 149 Dex?  IIRC woe guilds atm are in agreement that the 149 dex > 150 dex is a myth. But believe whatever you want to believe. Either way, if you can reach "max dex-whatever that is for you 149 or 150", then it would be better to take off some Drops cards in your knife and replace them with Cecils. Meaning, you will need the dex from an aoa and robo eye so you can replace the "leftover dex" with cecil cards in your knife instead.

Regarding BOG, if you have "leftovers", meaning more than 150 dex, you should again, replace your drops with Cecils.

Also my mistake with the first "gears" I posted. It should be Insomniac Sunglasses instead of blush or robo eye. Unless you're 100% sure for a fact that guilds don't use sleep status effect. If so, then at the current meta, Insomniac or you can also go fire resist route(Leib Omai-situational). But then again, depending on the meta in your server.

So just in general(all around), the basic stuff you want are:

Ramen Hat
Insomniac or whatever status Sunglasses
Pencil
Quad dex knife(replace with Cecils if you have more than 150)
Deadly +3 dex BG armor
Nox BG armor
G ferus BG Boots
2 NOGS
Horn Valk shield

Stats 150dex(using BOG), max vit , rest agi

As far as gameplay goes, you wanna stay within SPP range, typically 4th line. Stay there forever and if you're a beginner.

RE: Bash. You wanna use "shift+Bash" to get inside the stack. Look at 00:32 in this video:
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BsKqBXqHOY
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And just watch the video lol. I also talked to BroLy a lot and asked him questions regarding paladin but I think we should stay here for now. He's giving me some really complicated situational stuff. You might wanna watch some of his videos as well, for reference on positioning. Some of the gears would be different in different server so he's using what's available to him.

(https://s15.postimg.org/ogw2z2m57/paladin.jpg)
Title: Re: Pre Renewal Paladin woe build need help
Post by: Zereges on May 08, 2017, 04:28 AM
Quote from: TheRealProverbs on May 07, 2017, 10:24 PM
RE: Bash. You wanna use "shift+Bash" to get inside the stack.
You can also use First Aid in the middle of movement to hit lock yourself in the stack. Depends on your latency though. With 100ms+ it is not that easy to get consistently in exact place you want.
Title: Re: Pre Renewal Paladin woe build need help
Post by: Krait on May 08, 2017, 06:25 AM
Thank you guys alot! I'm geared now and waiting for woe. I just need little practise on moving in woe, its kinda difficult for me lol