Need advice from Lord Knight Pro.

[1timemember]

I plan to build a LK with the skills below. Stats I will play around with on my own. Please let me know if this is a good build or if I've neglected any important skills.

Thanks for looking.

Sword Mastery   Level    1   
Two-Handed Sword Mastery   Level    10   
Increase Recuperative Power   Level    10   
Bash   Level    10   
Provoke   Level    5   
Magnum Break   Level    10   
Endure   Level    3   
Moving HP Recovery   Level    1   Quest
Skill
Fatal Blow   Level    1   Quest
Skill
Auto Berserk   Level    1   Quest
Skill
Spear Mastery   Level    10   
Pierce   Level    5   
Spear Stab   Level    5   
Two-Hand Quicken   Level    10   
Auto Counter   Level    5   
Bowling Bash   Level    10   
Riding   Level    1   
Cavalry Mastery   Level    5   
Parrying   Level    10   
Concentration   Level    1   
Tension Relax   Level    1   
Berserk   Level    1   
Spiral Pierce   Level    5   
One-Hand Quicken   Level    1   Soul
Linked
Charge Attack   Level    1   Quest
Skill

[Leamee]

You have enough skill points left seriously?
Anyway Spiral Pierce is THE PvM skill. Don't expect to hurt other people much if you PvP, that's just life.
If you're fully-geared and use boned cardo (+ele convo) you can deal 4K on sucky people.
If it's for PvM spiral pierce is perfect, cheap and fast to cast if you have 90 dex.
I'd suggest you read my topic on LK BG, there's a lot of interesting stuff in there and my build, too, which is not a good PVP build but which works WONDERS in pvm.
Here we go:
stats:
dex 99 (90 is fine)
str 40
vit 70+
agi 0 to 20, but use berserk pot for skill delay
luk 0
int 30 at least would be good, you can also go full int like I did before and ditch most of the vit

Leveling:
Bowling Bash
then Spiral pierce
seals, rachel sanctuary, mavka, niflheim

[Gene]

You forgot Joint Beat and Head Crusher. What's the max level btw? Those two skills I have mentioned are only important on 99/70s.


Spiral pierce could still kill people in PvP but it's not reliable on BG/WoE.

Just abuse fatal blow on low stun resists then use Lv 1 Spiral then Lv 5. You'd score a kill if you're lucky

[silverleaf]

Why would you not get aura blade or concentration? O.o

[Leamee]

Because frankly those skills suck a little?

[silverleaf]

Are you kidding me? +100 atk, +50 hit, and +25% damage? Obviously, you haven't done much playing as an LK. Those two skills can highly increase the damage of regular physical attacks, as well bash and bowling bash.

Unless I've just missed out on some crazy update, these two skills do not "suck a little".

[Leamee]

all your defense based upon equipment and stats will decrease.

If you're farming and low on SP and you will be if you're the spiral pierce type, spamming those skills is useless, plus you won't have enough skills points anyway.
LK was my first RO char ever 7 years ago so don't tell me I haven't played much. It's okay if you disagree, I just never include those skills in my skill tree and most of the LKs I know don't either.
It's like casting endure every 2 minutes when you need tons of SP for bowling bash and bash or casting true sight every 10 seconds (though true sight is really useful). Sure it's fine for 10 minutes but yeah.
The least tiring and most efficient skills are OHKO skills or zone skills and they've always been the most useful skills.
Why? If you farm for an hour you'll know.
BB, Bash/ Spiral is all you need really, and Endure to walk thru mobs.

[Triper]

Aura Blade sucks ._. Concentration has it uses.
Aura blade is like mastery dmg, even if you miss, the dmg from aura blade will always hit and it get a boost from the cards you've that were supposed to increase the inicial dmg and element. This makes it be like what? 100-200 more dmg at pvm? Not bad as extra dps but not something to be dependent in the long course. SP of lks suck a lot and that's the main reason I don't use this.

Concentration is useful for me, i've always lv 1 and 5 at my bar depending on where I use my lk, 5 for +hit and dmg, 1 for the endure effect while mobbing.

Both aren't bad but there is better use of these points on other stuff, it's more of a know when to use.

It's the same concept as Spiral Pierce, I've lv 5 but I use a lot more of lv2 because of less delay for hit lock with ok dmg.

[Leamee]

Aura Blade sucks ._. Concentration has it uses. SP of lks suck a lot and that's the main reason I don't use this.

God, THANK YOU.
I may ask a lot of questions but I'm not a noob. I do sometimes use concentration too but I also like endure, and like you I don't see concentration as a "must-have" skill.
I mean even if you do what I did and find 2 Drings for your LK for a grand total of about 1K sp, your SP will suck and you'll get overweight really fast.
And I'm okay with people not taking my advice seriously but please respect me. I've probably done more playing in 7 years that you have, even though I took a couple of breaks, and I played for 10 hours a day when I discovered RO and only had a knight and a crusader. That was for over 3 months.

[XicoR4]

Aura Blade does not suck, it's a welcome addition to Knight's overall DPS. Just to put it a bit in perspective, over the course of the 2 minutes it lasts, if you are spamming Bowling Bash constantly (at let's say, 1 BB per second) you'll do about 24000 extra damage. The increase is even more noticeable if you are a 190 aspd LK (either Frenzy or 2h quicken agi), where you'll do about 500 extra DPS, or about 60000 extra damage over the 2 minutes. For a measly 50 sp, that's pretty good. Also keep in mind that this extra damage is always the same, regardless of the target's defense.

Regarding Concentration, as far as eAthena goes, the endure effect lasts for the whole duration of the skill instead of just the 7 (I think?) hits of Endure, and there's no delay between uses. Besides that, the extra 50 Hit is needed to hit high flee characters in PvP and the extra 25% atk is nice when actually trying to kill someone. This skill is one of the reasons LKs are the best mobbers.

Neither skill however affects Spiral Pierce (besides Concentration's extra hit), if you plan on using mainly Spiral, you can use the 5 skill points from Aura Blade elsewhere.

[Leamee]

... And that's why don't use Aura Blade since I rely on Spiral Pierce. Depends on the build, really.

[Siegfred]

BB type(BG spear, thorn shield+HOB, Vesper core, D.armor, Tidal set, B.Horn/Feather Beret)

STR= llllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
AGI=  llllllllll
VIT=  lllllllllllll
INT=  l
DEX= lllllllllllllllllllll
LUK=  l

[Leamee]

Vesper core= was good 3 years ago, does not fit into any build. Ever heard of MoH?
HOB= good for WS maybe, but for LK?
Tidal set: same remarks, what baffles me is that you did use a BG spear in your build which is a choice but then put those sucky items.
You won't tank asura with this build and you might not even tank 2-3 good EDP SBs.

[Mushu]

Notes about LKs:
1) You need Full Adr Rush at all times. Poem of Bragi helps SO much too. Assassin Cross song is GREAT from an Soul Linked 99 vit/agi Gypsy
2) For BB, ASPD is overrated, don't focus too much on agi
3) Why are you playing a LK if you are going to be stunned?... You are already a pretty crappy class, if you are also getting stunned just log out and uninstall. Get more Vit, I'd say 80 MINIMUM, I personally would go 90+
4) If using Thorny Shield, don't underestimate Valk Mant. Your dps is not going to be great either way, it's best to deal a little bit more to those SinXs who are sonic blowing you or SOMETHING to the OHKO asura champs. I cannot tell you how many times Valk Mant has helped me (LK was my first Trans class, it's one of the classes I know best) With a +8 Valk Mant+Thorny , you are hitting 26% reflect. Grab an Alice Shield for when you know an Asura is going to rip you a new one and you are a hated person.
5) Get 50 dex minimum. You obviously know this, it helps you spam BB faster.

If I was to play LK again this would be my stat/item build: (BB build as I've always hated spiral)
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As for skills, I would pick up provoke 10 also. You can be a provoke slave for a guild just like many guilds have mind breaker slaves.