Is Agi or AgiCrit build viable for PvP or WoE?

[Shayden]

Hello, i am a knight and before i rebirth i would like to be sure to stat up what i have to 
Also, i don't know much about RK, since i am a pre-renewal user and it's new to me, and agi LK used to be trash on the game (how unfortunate )

What i would love to be is, an 190-193 aspd Rune Knight with almost all Critical hits. This is what i would love to do (If i have to change criticals for vitality i am fine too, what i want is aspd, crit is not that much for me)

However, i would like to be useful in Woe and be able to kill some people in PVP, but everyone told me that the best builds are stuff with Spears or using that Dragon Breath , and i personally hate Spears, i don't hate dragons, but it's not like i am going to be throwing fire all the time ,you know .

So, an AGI build i guess it goes like

50-100 Str
120 Agi
60-70 Dex
50 Int

Or in case i want  to be more useful, something like..

str 97
agi 80
vit 95
int 90
Dex 60
luk 40

(Or maybe i am wrong)
If i have to go to spam some skills like BB or Ignition break i am fine too, but please, no spears.
What i mean is, Could i be useful with this kind of builds? or i will die instantly being an useless RK?

Also i am playing in EuRO(or fRO), in case you know how that server works.

thanks for answering my question ^^

[Astraeos]

For RE mechanics, yes and no. I'm about to drop a bunch of knowledge from iRO, don't know how relevant it'll be to private servers though.
You can get 193 ASPD with one AGI, but obviously you wont be doing any damage, amazing for emp breaking though since emps take 1 dmg in RE. You can go an AGI build and fall back completely on Turisus, Asir, and occasional Rhydo runes to do damage. But this build is vastly underwhelming in WoE. The build you're looking at making is pretty good with soloing a lot of low/mid tier MVPs though.

As for the most effective WoE build, would be a pure DB build, which is something like 110 base INT, 100 total VIT, as much DEX as possible, and 60~80 base AGI. And always have Halagas runes with you so you're immune to Freeze and other MDEF dependent stat effects so you can wear something like PecoPeco Volcano Armor. As well as you want to use a heavy weapon in conjunction with Rhydo runes to deal high damage to melee targets.

If you have any other questions about RKs or RE mechanics, feel free to PM me here or ask in this thread.

[Shayden]

Thank you for your answer  , it helped me a lot to have some ideas about this RE.

Since i don't need 120 agi to get max aspd, i will stick to the second stat build i said, so i can have some vitality and be a bit tanky.

Also thank you for confirming me that DB is the strongest WoE build but, i want to be different, i won't be taking it, instead i will be an emperium breaker with 193 aspd  , and i also don't like the fact of not taking STR at all, it's like i wanted to be a Wizard and i took the wrong class (just my opinion )

Also with 50 int i can hurt a bit with other skills like DB, i think, im not sure about how much does that skill scale.

About the difference between official euRO and iRO, i think it's the same, but the european server is less updated (Exactly episode 14.1).

I also heard a build about Ignition break and Bowling Bash, but i don't know exactly how it works, but i guess it's just about doing a great burst with those skills, and i guess i won't be having much agi at all 

So do you think i am doing the right decision?

Thank you 

[Astraeos]

If you want to do IB+BB you want to mix it with Storm Blasting as well, it's pretty decent burst for AoE damage.
DB scales hardest with SP, by proxy that makes INT very valuable. Storm blast also scales with INT, but its been significantly nerfed since when it reigned supreme, and is no longer regarded as a Rune Knights main skill.

STR in RE was changed to 1 sATK and +0.5% wATK. So with a weapon that has 300 ATK, and you have 100 STR, you'll do +100 sATK and +50% wATK. So you'll be doing 550 damage with basic attacks before defenses are calculated. With 1 STR and the same weapon its 316 damage before defenses with basic attacks. So you can see how insignificant STR can be if you don't really need it.

STR does have the advantage of increasing your weight limit and indirectly reducing the chance for you to be masqueraded, which is big. Crit also doesn't ignore defense anymore, it just increases damage by 1.4x

After calcing it out, you can get away with getting STR/INT/DEX/VIT to all slightly over 90 and about 70 agi or invert the agi and dex, which still works pretty well. Just depends how important cast time is to you.

[Innomite]

Please remember that I'm talking WoE wise.

Peuz/Pertz Set is pretty good for AgiCrit build, given the Rune buffs and the WoE flee penalties, you won't need more than 40 base DEX and you can use those leftover points for STR, VIT, INT and LUK (to go Ludacrits mode). 193 ASPD is reachable through Fighting Spirit, Berserk Potion, +10/+20 Agi foods, Celermine Juice and (if not enough), Swing Dance + Assassin Song, and Increase AGI with having only 1 base AGI.

Pertz set can automatically cast Storm Blast, and since you have 193 ASPD it'll have a pretty short delay, and your crits will deal like 2.5x damage. You can combine this with Ignition Break to deal a decent amount of damage. But keep in mind that you're wearing no shield, and you can get caught by Suras with Blade Stop or Cursed Circle, and your Millennium Shield won't be that much of a help if you don't swap reductions gears along.

From my own experience, AgiCrit build is pretty useful in Battlegrounds or PvP, it is a good breaker build for WoE but not a killer one.

You can ditch all of that and play DB if you'd like.

[Shayden]

From my own experience, AgiCrit build is pretty useful in Battlegrounds or PvP, it is a good breaker build for WoE but not a killer one.

Then it is decided 

So summing up, i can see the following:

STR in RE was changed to 1 sATK and +0.5% wATK. So with a weapon that has 300 ATK, and you have 100 STR, you'll do +100 sATK and +50% wATK. So you'll be doing 550 damage with basic attacks before defenses are calculated. With 1 STR and the same weapon its 316 damage before defenses with basic attacks. So you can see how insignificant STR can be if you don't really need it.

STR does have the advantage of increasing your weight limit and indirectly reducing the chance for you to be masqueraded, which is big. Crit also doesn't ignore defense anymore, it just increases damage by 1.4x

STR is not that valuable anymore so i shouldn't keep it that high, however im not sure if i really need it.

I can reach 193 aspd with 1 AGI so it's also a bit useless to level it up, however in order to reach it i would need many buffs which would make me very dependant of other people, which i don't like because there won't be always there, if you know what i mean.

I can actually keep on 40 DEX since according to Innomite i won't need more, however:

After calcing it out, you can get away with getting STR/INT/DEX/VIT to all slightly over 90 and about 70 agi or invert the agi and dex, which still works pretty well. Just depends how important cast time is to you.

Also i see this as a good option, but i won't be having more than 70 DEX , so i guess my DEX must be between 40 or 70, even 60 maybe.

I should get really  INT but i am not focusing on doing DB, only as a situational skill, but i don't really want to focus on it, however looks like don't have other option right now.

Right now i am like this:


(please don't mind my items im new in this server and i barely got something)

So i guess i will stop leveling up my DEX(or maybe 10 points more), 80 AGI and i will give like 10 or 20 more of STR maybe and then i will be leveling up my vit?

Sorry for being a bit bad at this but all changed so much that it's a bit hard to understand

Thank you for being so patient with me 

[Astraeos]

Not a problem, just remember that when leveling status once theyre base gets past 105, they start becoming VERY expensive.

Good luck with making your Rune Knight.