Bowling Bash LK PVP state

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soki

#30
Quote from: Relics on Aug 01, 2009, 04:45 AM
No, kiel doesn't work for BB because it's ASPD depended. And his accessories give a nice STR boost.  
Ah my bad i guess they change the scrpt/customed the KIEL on the server
i was playing since it worked on both Bowling Bash, Sonic Blow, and Grimtooth
so i thought it would work well it's good to know it doesnt work for BB on non-customed servers
Quote from: DrAg0nVaLoR on Aug 01, 2009, 12:24 AM
Erm .... So It Mean KIEL is Better Than KK ? (Actually The Glasser Is +10 one LoL )
Nevermind that i was wrong since Relic already said it doesnt work for BB just keep the Kathryne

Relics

No, I was saying it doesn't work for bowling at all on eathena, log into the test server and i'll show you.

By the way, the reason he's using kathrynes is because BB has an invisible cast time, so yes they are somehow effective for BB.

DrAg0nVaLoR

Quote from: Relics on Aug 01, 2009, 04:45 AM
Quote from: soki on Jul 31, 2009, 08:03 PM
Relic wouldn't he be better off using 3x KIEL card to spam and stack BB or Spiral?
instead of using 2x katheryne(which the other one is a waste since its on a sunny
and it's not refined) and clock tower? then just use Orlean's glove or Ring w/ BEELZEBUB
since beelzebub gives 30% cast reduction and it's as much as 2x katheryne and 1 clock tower
No, kiel doesn't work for BB because it's ASPD depended. And his accessories give a nice STR boost. 

@dragonvalor, try pumping your agi to the the point that you have ~188 ASPD and 1 dopple.
99 STR.., rest in VIT.

Damage SHOULD ofcourse be higher, and you should be remotely fast enough like you were with 190 ASPD (the only difference being is that nobody can click at the speed of 190 aspd which makes it so useless sometimes, unless you macro)
Only do this if it doesn't sacrifice your VIT too much.



;D ;D Than My Dex Should Put How Much ?
haha AnyWay thx relic  ~...
If Free Try Help Me Test The Agi ~ Dopple + (?agi) = Aspd 188 Hahaha ;)
Vit Need How Much  ~ ( Stable HP For SB/Asura)
Dex Need How Much ~ ( Stable Hit Wif Concentration )

hahahaha thx thx everyone ~ After Get The State ..i Will Repost Those Eq and State To Show U alll ~  ;D


Relics

Meh, if you're not hitting enough people, then get around the dex you had (70) or you can always opt to make a weapon with a phreeoni in it.

Just add your AGI up to the point that you have ~188 ASPD, reset if you have to cause I don't know how much ASPD doppel adds on your server. 70 DEX and rest in VIT.

DrAg0nVaLoR

Ermm...I think ...Aspd more low abit ? ...
if I get 188 Wif 1 dopple ..
my state will be
Str-99
Agi-71 ( Too High ? )
vit-51 ( Too Low ....Sb wif element sure GG hahah )
dex-70

Relics

Yeah, that's way too low VIT.

What's your APSD with 99 str, 76 VIT, 70 DEX, rest in AGI?

bleu

#36
Quote from: Relics on Jul 30, 2009, 04:47 PM
But it's slotted, most weight and spiral already pierces defense

It's the best weapon out there for spiral.

Quote from: CookieEater on Jul 30, 2009, 04:55 PM
I win. Gimme money.

Hunting Spear may easily appear to be is the "best" weapon for Clashing Spiral in terms of Weight and Damage output. But rest assured it isn't. There is another "weapon".  /ok

Let's just say "sometimes, you have to look beyond the obvious". And since this is a thread about Bowling Bash, I will not bore you any further about Clashing Spiral.

Relics

Sigh, doomslayer tag is so old.

DrAg0nVaLoR

Erm ...RElic ~ haha Server Like Down jor ~
Will Reply u Here AFter i CAn on it >) :D :D
Posted on: Aug 01, 2009, 11:44 pm
Aaaaaaaaaa Relic ~ i'm Back
Str99
agi45
vit75
dex70
Aspd is 185 ~
;D ;D
Posted on: Aug 07, 2009, 02:32 am
Relic relic relic ~
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Need Help a ~~~ hahahhahahaha
I Stucking at the moment jor .... :D :D

Relics

Errr, it looks fine really.. you seem to have enough vit, your str is still 99.. you now do more damage because you switched a doppel with a damaging card.
How's the DPS? can you still stack like you used to with 190? if all of that is well, then.. I guess we're done?

just fyi, no build is perfect, you should play around with it and perhaps compare it to your old one, see which one feels better to you.

DrAg0nVaLoR

Hahaha ~ ;D
Erm~OK bah ~ state settle ~ Now Is weapon problem ~ ...I Just Count Somthing like this

1Hand Spear (Dopple + IS )
PIKE(Size Medium)

-Hydra(1.2%)
(60Damage X 1.2 = 72Damage)
(72Damge - Size75% = 54Damage)Total

-Hydra+Drake(1.2%)
(60Damage x 1.2 = 72Damage)
(72Damge - Size100% =72Damage)Total

-Hydra+Skel(1.38%)
(60Damage x 1.2 x 1.15 = 82Damage)
(82Damage - Size 75% = 61Damage)Total

-Hydra+TG
(60Damage x 1.2 x 1.2 = 86.4Damage)
(86.4Damage - Size 75% = 64.8Damage)Total
______________________________________________________________________________

1Hand Sword (Dopple + IS )
Blade(Size Medium)

-Hydra(1.2%)
(53Damage x 1.2 = 63.6)
(63.6Damge - Size100% = 63.6Damage)

-Hydra+skel(1.38%)
(53Damage x 1.2 x 1.15 = 73.14Damage)
(73.14Damage - Size100% = 73.14Damage)Total

-Hydra+TG(1.44%)
(53Damage x 1.2 x 1.2 = 76.32Damage)
(76.32Damage - Size100% = 76.32Damage)Total

-TG+SwordGuardian(1.5%)
(53Damage x 1.2 x 1.25 = 79.5Damage)
(79.5Damage - Size100% = 79.5Damage)Total
___________________________________________________________________________________

2Hand Sword (Dopple )
Katana(Size Medium)

-SwordGuardian+TG(1.5%)
(60Damage x 1.25 x 1.2 = 90Damage)
(90Damage - Size75% = 67.5Damage)Total

-SwordGuardian+TG+Hydra(1.8%)
(60Damage x 1.25 x 1.2 x 1.2 = 108Damage)
(108Damage - Size75% = 81Damage)Total

-SwordGuardian+TG+Drake(1.5%)
(60Damage x 1.2 x 1.25 = 90Damage)
(90Damage - Size100% = 90Damage)



Which SHould I use ~ And Got Any Idea for it ?

Relics

Don't use drake.

Pike[4] Inca, hydra, tg, dopp.

blade[4] Inca...
Sword master 2x - hydra = 1.5 * 1.2 = 1.8

Sword master - hydra - tg = 1.25* 1.2 * 1.2 = 1.8

Plonk a doppel in there and just use two sword masters (1.5) or sword master + hydra (1.25*1.2 = 1.5)


I'm not fond of two-handed since losing our shield can be a pain. Unless you feel like tagging a 2h on a frozen/stoned target .. then tagging back to pike shield..



DrAg0nVaLoR

So I Should Use Blade On iT ?

..... ??? ???

Relics

Well yeah, it's the best one handed sword with 4 slots.. unless you can get your hands on a naght blade (Don't know if it outdamages blade[4]) ..

DrAg0nVaLoR

Hahaha  ~ erm ~ ....actually ~
I feel Blade abit Skillless  :-\
And just now i got reseach on this 2 of weapon ~
If Blade ~ ..it will give me 188 aspd ~ ( Sound Good )
If Pike ~ ..its just 185 aspd ~ ( but seems can use more skill , Like Spear Bommerang ..Joint Beat ..etc ... )
haaha ~ see bah ~i will use blade it if really no others way ... :D
Posted on: Aug 08, 2009, 12:00 am
The Naght Seiger Sword Also Not Bad

Naght Sieger Sword Fire/Water(Size Medium)
TG(1.2%)
(150Damge x 1.2 = 180Damage)
(180Damage - Size100% = 180Damage)Total
(IS + Dop )