Bowling Bash LK PVP state

[LiteX]

Regarding Spiral Pierce, I went on a little far fetched on that for spear skills. You would need a carded Pole Axe for it to work at its best.

Since when is a Hunting Spear no longer the best Spiral weapon?

Pole Axe was best until ep 11.3 when Hunting Spear came

[Irrelevant]

Regarding Spiral Pierce, I went on a little far fetched on that for spear skills. You would need a carded Pole Axe for it to work at its best.

Since when is a Hunting Spear no longer the best Spiral weapon?

Touché.

[SilverStream~]

Hunting spear is one handed and ignores def of brute monsters o.O incredible~

[Relics]

But it's slotted, most weight and spiral already pierces defense

It's the best weapon out there for spiral.

[CookieEater]

I win. Gimme money.

[Irrelevant]

I win. Gimme money.

Done. I stand my point, still. If he's already carrying a variety of V.Armors, he has no weight space to carry a SP spear.

[DrAg0nVaLoR]

......... Bowling Run Until Spiral ...hahaha
My state For Bowling Geh ~
If Spiral .. i think no need str bah ~ ( Agi Dex Settle )
Lol....SomeMore The Spiral ...Damage Abit Fix ~ ....Its Like Do The Same Damage To every job =.=
So I feel Bowling Is Better Much Bah  ~ ....


Relic ~
The dopple card problem

Agi-1+20 ( Wif Bless And Besek Pot ) Without Weapon / Aspd 173

If Equ The Pike(Dopple/Dopple/Tg/IS) I got Aspd 190 ...

17 aspd Diffe ..

[soki]

I'm pretty sure it works but if it doesn't sucks for you but


you can always use 3x KIEL the #1 bestfriend for those who

doesn't like delays at least on server i played you can stack BB w/

KIEL even SB since it's basically 90% delay reduction and not just that all

your characters benefit from it.

And since you have that much delay reduction from those 3x card you no longer

need those Doppels and just use dmg cards for BB (ex. TG, Hydra, SW, or SwordGuardian)


NOTE:That's if you can afford the Kiel cards

[Relics]

aspd DOES make a lot of difference mind everyone here who says dancing is enough (even myself), I just didn't notice the OP said he had 190 aspd with just 1 agi.

Either way, if dopple really gives that much, try fixing your build at around ~186 aspd and make room for another damaging card.

[DrAg0nVaLoR]

Hahaha `
So What State Should I Use Leh ? Hehe
Give me some tips ~ ....

[Irrelevant]

If Spiral .. i think no need str bah ~ ( Agi Dex Settle )

D'erh, actually, Spiral Pierce depends mainly on STR and weapon weight.

[DrAg0nVaLoR]

If Spiral .. i think no need str bah ~ ( Agi Dex Settle )

D'erh, actually, Spiral Pierce depends mainly on STR and weapon weight.

Not Big Diffe For The Str ~

[soki]

Head2-Sunglasser(1) (Kathryen)

Kathryen card on SUNGLASSES is such a waste of SLOT have you read the description?
Reduce Casting Time by 1% per Refine Level of the equipment this card is compunded on.
[Refine Rate 9~10]
MATK + 2
so your wasting that extra slot unless that sunnies is refined

Vit-92+9

For me 92+9 Vit is way too high AD and Thana will eat you alive
i'd lower it down to 81+9 but that's just me and use the extra
stat points to AGI so you can get rid of one Doppel Card and add a dmg Card

Also shouldn't your STR be multiple of 10s? 99+32 is 131 that's a waste of
extra stat points and use it somewhere else make it 99+31

BTW i just tried your stats but is this a 99 Server? because you cant get
base str99, vit92, and dex70 you'll be way over the stat points by -196

I just checked out your server and it says you can reborn up to 9 times and get
extra stat points so yea....

Relic wouldn't he be better off using 3x KIEL card to spam and stack BB or Spiral?
instead of using 2x katheryne(which the other one is a waste since its on a sunny
and it's not refined) and clock tower? then just use Orlean's glove or Ring w/ BEELZEBUB
since beelzebub gives 30% cast reduction and it's as much as 2x katheryne and 1 clock tower

[DrAg0nVaLoR]

Head2-Sunglasser(1) (Kathryen)

Kathryen card on SUNGLASSES is such a waste of SLOT have you read the description?
Reduce Casting Time by 1% per Refine Level of the equipment this card is compunded on.
[Refine Rate 9~10]
MATK + 2
so your wasting that extra slot unless that sunnies is refined

Vit-92+9

For me 92+9 Vit is way too high AD and Thana will eat you alive
i'd lower it down to 81+9 but that's just me and use the extra
stat points to AGI so you can get rid of one Doppel Card and add a dmg Card

Also shouldn't your STR be multiple of 10s? 99+32 is 131 that's a waste of
extra stat points and use it somewhere else make it 99+31

BTW i just tried your stats but is this a 99 Server? because you cant get
base str99, vit92, and dex70 you'll be way over the stat points by -196

I just checked out your server and it says you can reborn up to 9 times and get
extra stat points so yea....

Relic wouldn't he be better off using 3x KIEL card to spam and stack BB or Spiral?
instead of using 2x katheryne(which the other one is a waste since its on a sunny
and it's not refined) and clock tower? then just use Orlean's glove or Ring w/ BEELZEBUB
since beelzebub gives 30% cast reduction and it's as much as 2x katheryne and 1 clock tower

Erm .... So It Mean KIEL is Better Than KK ? (Actually The Glasser Is +10 one LoL )
SomeMore Beelzebub Card Is Not Easy To Find  ~
Soki ~ So I Should Use What State  ? Can Give me The Build ? Like Agi Need How Much / Str Need How much ~
Before This . I Was Thinking Use ( Horn Of Baffulo + Thor Shield ../ Aspd +10% Right ) ? Its mean Can Replace 1 Dopple
And Get 190 aspd Without 2 dopple ~ ....But I feel I will Become a Softy When My V.Shield Gone .( Element -20% )

[Relics]

Relic wouldn't he be better off using 3x KIEL card to spam and stack BB or Spiral?
instead of using 2x katheryne(which the other one is a waste since its on a sunny
and it's not refined) and clock tower? then just use Orlean's glove or Ring w/ BEELZEBUB
since beelzebub gives 30% cast reduction and it's as much as 2x katheryne and 1 clock tower

No, kiel doesn't work for BB because it's ASPD depended. And his accessories give a nice STR boost. 

@dragonvalor, try pumping your agi to the the point that you have ~188 ASPD and 1 dopple.
99 STR.., rest in VIT.

Damage SHOULD ofcourse be higher, and you should be remotely fast enough like you were with 190 ASPD (the only difference being is that nobody can click at the speed of 190 aspd which makes it so useless sometimes, unless you macro)
Only do this if it doesn't sacrifice your VIT too much.