rms user group, and new undersection inside off topic.

[SilverStream~]

Discussion developed into: rms user group for active members.  No other benefits except access to an undersection to offtopic where you can discuss things you feel are off topic, but not offtopic spam.(which the offtopic section kinda is.. spam.)

It's all developing communities!  Grab that head of yours and realise that some things go into a stand still and that's not what we should want.
All in all, I think this is a positive change for rms, since lately it's been the same over and over.  There are no downsides, and no real upsides, except you get a user title, and access to a new forum section.

As an alternative, we could instead of adding people here and there, have a post count setting, where say 500 is needed to get the rights to go have access to the section.
Using a post count as a measurement of if you are qualified to be a part of the rms regulars/active users and gain access to this discussion board, is a wonderful idea as you would have to be fairly active and a regular user of rms.


Please, post what you think of this as it's a fact that if things go in the same loop over and over and over and over and over and over again you do get bored, and not just you, so people tend to lose interest.





[Original post, and topic start - un-edited]


There is a lot of content deemed 18+ regarding ro, life, the universe and everything.

So why not a 18+ section?  Most people that come here are from 13~25, so making a section where you need to be listed as 18 would be nice.
We can have adult pictures, discussions and more.  Even a more mature discussion section for when people are being retards, and you want to vent your anger, or discuss a matter that you don't think is appropriate for a 14 year old to read.


Also you can share your stuff and whatnot.  Many users would agree to this, at least those few that are 18+.

[Pow]

.... No.

-Pow

[Orange]

Though I'd like the freedom to post an occasional rude pic, having it all in 1 section would just turn it into a crapwhole and allowing it everywhere is simply unacceptable, so I'm leaning towards a no.

[Pow]

I figured I'd come back and atleast explain my;

.... No.

First of all, yC is deadly against any adult content what-so-ever (This even includes EL on RMS's sister anime streaming site), so I'm sure you'd get a no straight away from her. I, personally, would like to think that it is doable on these forums, but as sad as it is to say it - it isn't.

Not only would every post have to be strictly monitored and age limit strictly enforced (Which, to be honest, would be incredibly hard to do.. All we'd have is just the entered birth dates that people sign up with). Also, crawling through mountains upon mountains of explicit content isn't exactly what I'd like to do while I relax. All links would have to be checked, sites scanned for child pornography or anything remotely close... It'd just be a pain in the donkey.

Sorry, but the answer is no.

-Pow

[SilverStream~]

I still find it quite interesting, alternatively we can create a sub division group called "Regulars of rms", where you must ask a moderator for access and have been a member for so and so long, and active in the community(ie, people know who you are).

That might be better, as we can freely discuss private servers,  who is a dick, and what's this blablabla.

Lately rms has gotten boring(once agani), and it'd be fun with some new things here and there.



Read you reply Pow, and settled on a "rms regulars group", of some kind.

[Relics]

Hmm, I mod a forbidden section on animerender.., it's +18, anything's allowed.. etc (it's mostly hentai anyway)

I wouldn't mind, but then again I'm open for anything..

Still, a +18 section isn't exactly something you'd call appropriate for a board that is focused on rating servers. Sure we'd like a place to chill, be ourselves etc, but is that really our mission here?

Again, I don't mind.. but chances of this happening are probably not high

[Green]

Would a RMS regulars turn into some like... VIP board or something, though?

If people that other people don't like ask to be in it, it'll turn into the biggest mudslinging fest ever. Lots and lots of drama.



.... Oooo.

[wireless]

I still find it quite interesting, alternatively we can create a sub division group called "Regulars of rms", where you must ask a moderator for access and have been a member for so and so long, and active in the community(ie, people know who you are).

That might be better, as we can freely discuss private servers,  who is a dick, and what's this blablabla.

Lately rms has gotten boring(once agani), and it'd be fun with some new things here and there.



Read you reply Pow, and settled on a "rms regulars group", of some kind.

I think the board is elitistic enough as it is 

[Lost~Dreams]

0mg we se newd pics on  RMS?!~?!??!?!?!??~!~?!?~!?

Ps. I love zone

[Descent]

Read you reply Pow, and settled on a "rms regulars group", of some kind.

That's really funny, you "settled"?

Especially after seeing this...

No.

[A92FL0163]

Dunno, something like iRO Wiki Forums Tirades/Ranters/Tiradegans?

[yC]

I have no intention to run/keep/monitor a place that content/spread 18+ content.  I wouldn't do it.

[Zone]

/nosupport
I already corrupt SerenityRO's board with screwed up porn and gore.

[SilverStream~]

Okay, then what about the rms regulars group?  I'd like to have a section where I could talk about whatever(not a 18+ section, just a normal one) without having tons of morons hogging it and posting "so ez dis liek wat?" and other crap in it.


Descent, yes I "settled", because I thought about this, and came to the conclusion that since yC doesn't want one, then having a rms regulars group would maybe be better.  There are many things different ro admins doesn't want read, and maybe want to talk about, who knows.

For example, if I would want to discuss a matter I would deem to be only to a small group of rms users, or only normal users of rms which most likely idiots would spam down, or mess up I would(lot's of "would" now) post in the new section, or an undersection of the off topic section.

The undersection thing seems good to me though, the group "rms regulars" would be able to read that, and it could be used for all rms issues, and non rms issues that we don't really see fit anywhere else.
Talking about interserver things, discussing various servers without having a ton of server admins go wtfbananasplits over it, using it for iro talk, non irotalk, and similar topics.

But, seeing as we have the "off topic" section, for things that you don't see fit anywhere else they should go there, no.  Not really.  Off topic is used for spam, a good example is the topics patapon has been posting, and other random.. randoms that have been made.

This I think would be a good measure, since the undersection would not be used for spam and such, but more discussions where you wouldn't think you could discuss it anywhere else without being spammed down, or moron-ized.

[Descent]

Okay, then what about the rms regulars group?  I'd like to have a section where I could talk about whatever(not a 18+ section, just a normal one) without having tons of morons hogging it and posting "so ez dis liek wat?" and other crap in it.

For example, if I would want to discuss a matter I would deem to be only to a small group of rms users, or only normal users of rms which most likely idiots would spam down, or mess up I would(lot's of "would" now) post in the new section, or an undersection of the off topic section.

Who in the hell do you think you are? I've tried to think about it, but I felt my brain swell, painfully.

[SilverStream~]

Seeing as nothing really happens but the small server drama and review reports, it would be great to see some change and develop the community a bit more.
There was something like this being suggested a few years ago, and it was shot down then for people acting like retards about this.

I'll change to first post(topic starter) so it suits the current discussion.


Descent, you should take a drink, go easy on things.  Don't overexert yourself too much with complicated things.  Read it again and be positive, it's not hard.  Then read it once more so you get it.






As for who I am..







If you would like, you can read the first post of this topic and discover untold words regarding this topic, and the development of rms-kind.

[Descent]

Yeah, good save after you got called out, editing the post so you don't sound an arrogant, know-it-all snot. Kudos to you.

[Omi]

I can guarantee if we were given a "Realm Of Insanity" for users here it would be worse quality than the posts contributed by Zeel.

[SilverStream~]

No it wouldn't be a realm of insanity, it'd be more like a more private part of rms.  Albeit some might be against having a more private section of rms and want to have a totally open path of rms, so we all can sit in the light of the lord and... yeah.

To be serious I believe this is a good suggestion.  Many, many forums around the.. uh .. was gonna say globe, but internet fits I guess, have this kind of thing.  Regular users get a pinch more things than completely new users.

Having a post count feature is easy, and it encourages more posting(not spamming).  Maybe someone wants to ask server questions, but feels that asking in plain public is more embarrassing(yes the internet is embarrassing to post around in for some) than to ask in a place where the person knows that not the entire world will read it.

It could be used to discuss most things except hardcore ero games and porn.  yC is strongly against 18+ material and Descent you said yourself when you locked a thread zone started that yC would have a heart attack and strangle you if you kept it going.  Having a section where you can post safe for work material and other things, -doesn't really matter what it is- is good for a forum to have.  It can contain rants long or small, which here are practically non-existent because it's not allowed, or there simply isn't a section for it.

[yC]

I don't believe in separating forum members into groups.  Nor having any protected forums for older members or regulars.

Doing so mean we acknowledge those that have no access are morons?  Descent has a point, what make you less of a moron than those that you identified as moron.  Excuse me, I mean if your intention is "without having tons of morons hogging it and posting".  Then I am sorry the post count method will not work.  The only method will work for you is you pick people to be your "regulars" and that is not a solution we can offer.  Having a post count restricted section does not mean you will not see people you don't want to see post in topic you don't want them to post.  Eventually, the so called "morons" will catch up to you and get into the section. 

If you only want replies from people you prefer, I think a forum is not a tool you should use.  With that intention in mind, this suggestion is pointless.

Also, for "Talking about interserver things, discussing various servers without having a ton of server admins go wtfbananasplits over it".  Isn't it the same as talking people behind their back?  While they have no chance to reply to clear the matter themselves?  We have the hall of shame and encourage server staff to reply for the exact opposite reason.

[SilverStream~]

Yes quite true, but what I see now is that you took very, very huge notice to that fact that I used the term "moron", and "idiots".


I'll rest my case for now seeing it's 23:17 and I have to go to work tomorrow.


If you won't see the post in another light than what you desire to look upon it as, then I won't force you.  I see now I need to post in a more.. different way to get my messages out.
Maybe high school level would be suitable, but who knows.  I'll think about that when I wake up.

[Poki]

Someone who joined the RMS forum recently or visits the forum regularly are not any different.  Sure, one's been here longer than the other, but that doesn't give the older members any special privileges.  Sounds more like favouritism than anything else.

Even with the intentions to filter out the 'morons' and 'idiots', it's impossible to tell at first glance/post.  And no, putting a restriction by using post counts will only encouraged people to post more (Idiotically perhaps) for that privilege or exclude many by making some feel discouraged to even bother doing so.

Besides, the only statuses with difference in power that exists in RMS forums are:
Administrators
Global Moderators
Local Moderators
Everyone else, excluding the bannedcakes.

[Zone]

This isn't RUNE, we aren't any bit more special than the next user.
inb4derp

[SilverStream~]

This isn't RUNE, we aren't any bit more special than the next user.
inb4derp

Oh yeah sorry I didn't see this earlier, and you're right we should all be equal here.

[Zone]

it's not like we have any discussions that aren't open to the public.

[SilverStream~]

True, we should keep having all things into the open, and expose that which is not.


However we do have some that aren't open to the public.  Albeit being about our relationship which is out in the open for all to see, we still don't discuss our kamasutra out door polo horse riding exercises with other people zone.

[Zone]

We don't talk about it here either, unless in private messages.