Low Rate/Difficult

[Mrew2]

- Low Rates
- Preferably Pre-renewal but renewal works fine, as well.
- Difficult. Not the standard warper, healer, 5x+ rates. Hard to level, requires effort on the players part.
- Polished. Not plagued with the typical bugs of most servers out there.
- Admin that has played the game and has them self, or had others, play test the server. Tired of servers with admins that are inexperienced with the game.

Pretty sure none of the servers on the market fit this description but I thought I might as well try and post this here.

[RagnaBest]

Hi sir,

how about Eos Ragnarok?
-Lowrate? yes lowrate 8x8x4x 
-Yup were pre-renewal
-Expert GM that have vase exp in server manangement 

for more info regarding our server
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/low-rates/eos-ragnarok-online-(8x8x4x)/

p/s: if your intrested pls do join our facebook group community, active GM and helpful player their will surely convice you to join us =)

LINK: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1004324343026939/

[heartseeker]

- Low Rates
- Preferably Pre-renewal but renewal works fine, as well.
- Difficult. Not the standard warper, healer, 5x+ rates. Hard to level, requires effort on the players part.
- Polished. Not plagued with the typical bugs of most servers out there.
- Admin that has played the game and has them self, or had others, play test the server. Tired of servers with admins that are inexperienced with the game.

Pretty sure none of the servers on the market fit this description but I thought I might as well try and post this here.

The server I'm playing might fit your needs... it's renewal though. 1x rates, no healer, no warper, no job changer. Pretty much the standard RO but with a few auto-events and player commands (@autoloot, @autotrade).  http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=detailedlistserver&serid=19089&itv=6&url_sname=Joy-Ro

[Mrew2]

Hi sir,

how about Eos Ragnarok?
-Lowrate? yes lowrate 8x8x4x 
-Yup were pre-renewal
-Expert GM that have vase exp in server manangement 

for more info regarding our server
http://forum.ratemyserver.net/low-rates/eos-ragnarok-online-(8x8x4x)/

p/s: if your intrested pls do join our facebook group community, active GM and helpful player their will surely convice you to join us =)

LINK: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1004324343026939/

I tried it. The server fails it's second line of "Need a server that do not apply pay to win in their gameplay?" when it sells headgears that have better stats than a lot of the in-game items. It seems to be even more of a cash grab when, as far as I could tell, the only way to change your character's looks was to donate or by obtaining the stylist coupon via some undisclosed way. There are plenty more things I can say wrong about the server but if the server cannot keep one of its initial promises, how can I trust them enough to play on it?

[RagnaBest]

I tried it. The server fails it's second line of "Need a server that do not apply pay to win in their gameplay?" when it sells headgears that have better stats than a lot of the in-game items. It seems to be even more of a cash grab when, as far as I could tell, the only way to change your character's looks was to donate or by obtaining the stylist coupon via some undisclosed way. There are plenty more things I can say wrong about the server but if the server cannot keep one of its initial promises, how can I trust them enough to play on it?

First of all im sorry if the server doest meet you requiment, FYI term pay2win is where the player given too much advantage in especialy in WoE or PvP..such as Alice Doll, Large Baho Helm, Mercury Riser and so on (espcialy eq that have demi human red effect) but we didnt dont that we only include a headgear that wont interfier with WoE or PVP mostly the headgear is stats wise and only aid player to lvling anyway can I ask any headgear that you consider to be pay2win material?

[EclipseToo]

Have you given Ragnarok Reborn a shot yet?

To simply answer your bullet points...

- Low Rates
We are low rate with 5x EXP rates.
- Preferably Pre-renewal but renewal works fine, as well.
We are pre-renewal with official pre-renewal mechanics.
- Difficult. Not the standard warper, healer, 5x+ rates. Hard to level, requires effort on the players part.
I would say that for low-rate servers Ragnarok Reborn is more on the hard side of things, but not annoyingly so. The warper only warps to towns, the healer functions identically to the official Inn, there's no double EXP Field Manuals or anything else to take away from the low-rate feel.
- Polished. Not plagued with the typical bugs of most servers out there.
We have maintenance every week to fix bugs and as far as things are right now, we are free of bugs, unless there are some that haven't been reported.
- Admin that has played the game and has them self, or had others, play test the server. Tired of servers with admins that are inexperienced with the game.
I've personally played RO since 2004 and played many low-rates and a handful of mid-rates since then. I would say that I am fairly experienced with the game both as a player and as a developer/admin and many players will tell you that Ragnarok Reborn is more than your typical copy-paste server with an inexperienced staff.

Aside from just answering bullet points, I can tell you that if you enjoy Ragnarok Online and enjoy the true mechanics of the game then Ragnarok Reborn will be a lot of fun for you. It's important to me that the game plays like a low-rate and plays like an official server. That means that we don't have a bunch of copy-paste scripts, autoevents, and other nonsense that just fills up a features list of a server for the sake of filling it up. It also means that you're not going to find the typical mindless EXP increase events nor will you find Field Manuals that double or triple the rates. Our aim is to implement features in a professional manner that makes sense in the environment of a pre-renewal low-rate server. For example, We do have "Spotlight On" events weekly in which a lesser-used area is chosen for a temporary EXP increase rather than your randomly chosen race of the day or monster of the day.

It's also extremely important that game isn't stagnant. Pre-Renewal stopped receiving updates a long time ago and thus, content has been at a standstill. We have and will continue to careful convert renewal content to pre-renewal in a fashion that correctly matches pre-renewal mechanics in order to avoid that situation. It's the only server where you'll get to experience newer, official things in Ragnarok Online without having to give up the true, pre-renewal mechanics.

I noticed one of your concerns with the above posts is that the server shouldn't be pay2win. This is also something that is integral to the true RO feeling Ragnarok Online strives to maintain. We do have a donation shop, but all items in it are either completely statless or have heavily nerfed stats. You can certainly play without ever donating and you'll never be at a disadvantage in PvM or WoE if you choose not to.

I'd be happy to answer any questions you have about the server. I hope to see you there!

More information can be found here: http://www.ragnarokreborn.com/info/features

Website: http://www.ragnarokreborn.com/
Forums: http://www.ragnarokreborn.com/forums

[Mrew2]

Have you given Ragnarok Reborn a shot yet?

I have actually. It sounded really promising but I remember logging in and feeling that the ideas were not fully realized or that there was a lot of inconsistencies. I don't remember 100%, though. I just remember really looking forward to it but then it was disappointing.

[Playtester]

I have actually. It sounded really promising but I remember logging in and feeling that the ideas were not fully realized or that there was a lot of inconsistencies. I don't remember 100%, though. I just remember really looking forward to it but then it was disappointing.

That's not very concrete? Imo, Ragnarok Reborn is currently the best low rate server. It's not second highest rated pre-re server except TalonRO on RMS for nothing. :p

From what I can see from lurking on their forums, there are hardly any bugs reported or suggestions made the past weeks, so it seems that it is stable and consistent now. Though there are still several renewal regions missing if you mean that with "not fully realized" ideas.

[Mrew2]

That's not very concrete? Imo, Ragnarok Reborn is currently the best low rate server. It's not second highest rated pre-re server except TalonRO on RMS for nothing. :p

From what I can see from lurking on their forums, there are hardly any bugs reported or suggestions made the past weeks, so it seems that it is stable and consistent now. Though there are still several renewal regions missing if you mean that with "not fully realized" ideas.

Yes, it wasn't very concrete because I didn't remember why I was disappointed. I downloaded it just to play it and remember why I didn't like it and I remember now. The champion mobs were lazily added. Champion Mobs having the 5x hp, a flat 2x damage increase, no increase to drops and 2.5x exp. They are more refined now. Champion mobs give more exp, have better drop rates and differentiating attacks which is much nicer and feels like a fully realized idea.

The major thing that made me stop was the no auto following on the clients. This was not listed as a change anywhere that you would look for on a server. I don't even remember where it was listed, I only found this out in-game from other people talking about it. That was a major turn off. If it had been listed in the ad on RMS, in the changelog section or in the post talking about the client, I'd have adjusted my expectations accordingly but that disappointed me and it made a lot of things not possible for my kind of playstyle, like two-man partying Thanatos and Abyss.

If you like the server, that is fine. They do seem to be improving but it will always be the server with this stigma attached to it because of that unannounced change. I may try it again when I am feeling up to it but this is not my ideal server, more just something to spend time on.

[henry24]

Hey,

Have you tried Joy-Ro?
We are a Low rate Renewal server with 1x rates.
We have some special Events and pvp battle grounds.

Atm we have a floating rates event so you have abit more exp if you join now!

For more information check out our website.
http://joy-ro.com

[Mrew2]

Hey,

Have you tried Joy-Ro?
We are a Low rate Renewal server with 1x rates.
We have some special Events and pvp battle grounds.

Atm we have a floating rates event so you have abit more exp if you join now!

For more information check out our website.
http://joy-ro.com

Yup yup. I was there a few days after it opened. Admin was no where to be found with the GMs being unable to fix any issues with the admin's help but an error with donating was fixed on the same day it was reported but leaving other issues reported unanswered. It just rubbed me the wrong way.

[Playtester]

Well, you didn't state you want to multiclient. No auto follow makes leveling harder and in the OP you wrote you want leveling to be hard. :p
But fair enough.

[Mrew2]

Well, you didn't state you want to multiclient. No auto follow makes leveling harder and in the OP you wrote you want leveling to be hard. :p
But fair enough.

Why are you responding to this? No, I did not state that I wanted Multi-clienting but I stated my previous experience with the server suggested and why I don't play them anymore. I don't understand your reason to defend the server when it is not going to affect my prior experience and, through relation, my choice to play on the server.

[OriginRo]

Hey

Originro is a low rate 3/3/2 brand new server
Episode 9 - rebirth
No healer, warper and any of this stuff, if you want to succed you need to work for it
About gms, we are 4 GMs each with about 10 years of experiencce in RO a know a lot about the game, the maps, the mobs and the jobs
We are a new server opens in 1.1.17
If you have more questions, feel free to PM me
Or you can visit our website
Http://originro.ddns.net
Hope to hear from you and good luck

[henry24]

Yup yup. I was there a few days after it opened. Admin was no where to be found with the GMs being unable to fix any issues with the admin's help but an error with donating was fixed on the same day it was reported but leaving other issues reported unanswered. It just rubbed me the wrong way.

Ahh oke to bad to hear the server had alot of work.
We had some good updates lately so if your still looking.. feel free to check it out..

[Terpsichore]

Rates besides, I think my server fits the requirements, and rates alone don't mean much without considering the rest of mechanics. Getting to max level takes an average player that doesn't grind daily around a month, which goes faster in a party.

We do have warper (first floors, with quest requirements to unlock warps) and healer but the difficulty comes from actual content, you can't solo everything like on a standard renewal server and bosses are mostly a party effort. I have made many, many changes to skills, mechanics, gear, monster's stats/skills/drops/AI so the experience is considerably different from basic renewal.

We have the New Year event running right now, which comes with doubled EXP so you might want to wait until this Friday for it to end.

Click my signature if you're interested and check out the information section and wiki, you can also join our Discord if you have questions.

[Blinzer]

Rates besides, I think my server fits the requirements, and rates alone don't mean much without considering the rest of mechanics. Getting to max level takes an average player that doesn't grind daily around a month, which goes faster in a party.

We do have warper (first floors, with quest requirements to unlock warps) and healer but the difficulty comes from actual content, you can't solo everything like on a standard renewal server and bosses are mostly a party effort. I have made many, many changes to skills, mechanics, gear, monster's stats/skills/drops/AI so the experience is considerably different from basic renewal.

We have the New Year event running right now, which comes with doubled EXP so you might want to wait until this Friday for it to end.

Click my signature if you're interested and check out the information section and wiki, you can also join our Discord if you have questions.

At least you're not all talk, I read your skill changes and they're at least decent in the context of vanilla, they're the first I've seen that aren't garbage. I'd give your server a shot if I was this guy.

[Mrew2]

Rates besides, I think my server fits the requirements, and rates alone don't mean much without considering the rest of mechanics. Getting to max level takes an average player that doesn't grind daily around a month, which goes faster in a party.

We do have warper (first floors, with quest requirements to unlock warps) and healer but the difficulty comes from actual content, you can't solo everything like on a standard renewal server and bosses are mostly a party effort. I have made many, many changes to skills, mechanics, gear, monster's stats/skills/drops/AI so the experience is considerably different from basic renewal.

We have the New Year event running right now, which comes with doubled EXP so you might want to wait until this Friday for it to end.

Click my signature if you're interested and check out the information section and wiki, you can also join our Discord if you have questions.

Your server sounded really good but ended up being disappointing. A lot of what you say does sound good but it doesn't work in practice, at least not on your server. "Getting to max level takes an average player that doesn't grind daily around a month" That's not legit. On renewal, primary exp gain is Mvps. They are just much better exp than grinding normal mobs. With that in mind, of course it will take you a while to reach max level, especially since 160+ has ridiculous exp requirements. The weird change is the fact that you turned off the exp level curve. That does not work with renewal when renewal was created around that curve. It makes going to harder places pretty much pointless because a lower level area, that is so much easier, grants very close to the same exp.

The warper is way too specific and the quest requirements are pretty lacking. I think I saw five or six red dungeon listings, meaning they require quest, out of thirty. With this warper/healer, everything can be soloed. Bosses are not really party efforts because I didn't notice much change in them. A typical MVP that gets soloed,  Atroce, had the same hp, what amounted to 5% more def, more dex for hitting stuff and slightly more attack. I couldn't see the skills because the database didn't list them. The changes to player skills were pretty lacking, imo, at least in terms of the classes I play. Ranger is still the same one trick pony, just Unlimit is slightly less of an advantage, it's also kind of weird Unlimit level 1 makes you deal less damage. Archbishop had mainly convenience changes with 6/13 being status icons, 1/13 being a setting that you can turn on/off, 4/13 just being convenient stuff, and 2/13 actually being changes to their skills and not even skill mechanics, just they deal slightly more damage and one has a bigger AoE. That changes nothing. I read about the item changes and how you can slot items now to make them more useful but, honestly, if you have a gear set at Mora, that is your main shtick until you are max level. Nothing beats it. If you don't have one at Mora, then maybe you will have some use for that but I don't.

The server looks really nice, it sounds convincing, but when you really look into it, it ends up being more of the same with a slight twist on it. Sorry but it's not for me.

Edit: Forgot to mention, there was this weird quirk where my character stuttered every few cells walked. She would walk two cells then appear,  stopped, at the third cell. It was almost as if you had a kind of quickrefresh built into the server but only for player movement. It made the game very skippy and not smooth at all.