To See Beyond RO.

Raguel · Dec 27, 2009, 11:42 PM

Hello, first of all, I'd like to introduce myself. My name isn't Raguel, of course. I have played TSBRO since it started, 4-5 months ago. At first, the server was quite nice. But, everything must come to an end. The server turned in something barely playable, for not saying a joke.

So, with this said, I'll start with my review.

Server

Stability: 5/10
The server is quite laggy. People gets randomly disconnected, and the average ping is quite bad.

Availability: 9/10
Even thought the server lags alot, I have seen it down just a couple of times, when they were changing hosts.

Community

Friendliness: 4/10
Community is rather stupid. Most of them are the typical SHR players ("I R PAWN U NUB"). The rest of them are super kawaii RO players n_n ^_^.
But, as in every server, I found some friends who I was able to talk with. They were just normal RO players. Suddenly, they had to quit because of a problem with one guild.
Forums are quite inactive, and boring. People likes to complain, complain, complain.

Eventfulness: 8/10
GMs host events at least once per hour, but sometimes, it's a little bit excessive. I mean, 3-4 events per hour? Hmm.
Some events are totally disorganized; GMs can just go "afk" without previous warning.

Game Masters:
I'm not going to use the normal rating system for this.
The GM team in this server is rather silly. 12+ GMs for 50-70 people. Hmm. That's more than an exagerated number of game masters. I'll provide some links for your amusement.
http://tsbro.forumotions.com/groupcp.forum?g=1
http://tsbro.forumotions.com/groupcp.forum?g=2 <--- Chalant quitted, Anger is a new co-admin. Lol.
http://tsbro.forumotions.com/groupcp.forum?g=3 <--- This list is missing 3 new GMs: Raindr0ps, Tig Oh Bittes, and Valentine. Plus, GM Godzilla (Yusei in the forums), Nekastroth (who's being re-hired soon). Probably i'm missing one. They are just too many!
Oh, and to make it even worse: http://tsbro.forumotions.com/news-f1/looking-for-2-new-gms-lack-of-old-gms-being-on-and-2-gms-left-t274.htm <--- Good god.

The admin, Mario, is really unprofessional. He makes us download huge data folders every now and then, instead of posting easy fixes. The new client is just 16mb, but when you patch, you have to wait... what, 1 hour?, so it downloads more than 150mb. Even a player pointed this out in one suggestion. It got blatanly ignored, though.
Ok, back to Mario. He really doesn't know how to manage a server. He hires new GMs almost every month, even thought he doesn't need more (and he won't need more until he reaches 200+, lol). His usage of the english language is quite funny. But it's not really relevant.
His server has 1000+ customs, ok. But since the server opened, he has been telling us "Yeah, i'll add the custom descriptions". Oh yeah, customs don't have descriptions, so, if you want to buy something, you will have to do it because you like it, not because of it's effect.
"Oh god, so many customs!" would you say. But yeah, the server is full of errors because of them. I, myself, keep erroring, even thought I have downloaded their last patch.

The other GMs... are just plain ridiculous. Only a couple of them are good, like Symph, Crimmy & Nekastroth. The other GMs are just plain bs. They know nothing about the server itself. My questions are usually ignored. Just ignored. Not even a "use ratemyserver.net please".

There's almost always an availible GM, because the GM team itself is huge.

Game-play:

Economy: 5/10
Only items being sold/bought/traded in the server, are some quest items. Wings, and ingredients in general. Cards are being sold in the mall, and this totally ruinned the economy. =/

Guild Competition: 10/10
Pretty good, actually. I have seen some really skilled guilds for a SHR server. There are 3-4 big guilds on the server.

Class Balance: 7/10
Ninjas & Sinx are the most overpowered classes. The server has some interesting nerfs/skill changes. Ranged classes have been buffed, and they actually have a chance to PvP.

Conclusion:
I can't believe this server is almost at the top of the SHR servers list. I wouldn't recommend it, at all. The GM team is unprofessional, the community is rude...
The server had potential. But, the gms totally ruinned it. The GM team needs a major re-think. So does the community.

Raguel

Kyomi · Dec 28, 2009, 10:21 AM

Raguel · Dec 28, 2009, 12:03 PM

Thank you, Kyomi.

The server has potential, but a poor management is making it disappear.

And yeah, the NPCs are funny, but I have seen at least 3 persons leaving because of this.

Luna~ · Dec 28, 2009, 12:24 PM

How many people play mario's server?

bhenina · Dec 28, 2009, 12:46 PM

what a dialogue... >_<

Raguel · Dec 28, 2009, 12:50 PM

Quote from: Luna~ on Dec 28, 2009, 12:24 PM
How many people play mario's server?

50-70.

bhenina · Dec 28, 2009, 12:54 PM

i think they just spammed the review site XD

5 reviews in a row... seems the populace loves giving reviews...

Raguel · Dec 28, 2009, 02:05 PM

It does indeed look suspicious.

Yukino · Dec 28, 2009, 04:28 PM

I was one of the very first few players who played this server after Hamachi was removed, but I left the server recently. Those were good times until they faced Staff corruption/problems. That one Co-Admin is still on the loose (apparently he hacked the server, but I won't provide proof since I just heard about it from a staff member) "trying" to help out new servers but ended up ruining some (like NightShadowRO for copying our website).

Anyways, how is the event room? I suggested that they should remove some useless NPCs, but they probably did not listen to my suggestions. I did find some of those NPC words offensive, but I believe they thought of using them for fun (no actual "threat", but they can still change the wording for younger players). The population varies between 30-60, and I did tell them that they have too many GMs... Some GMs actually do their jobs (which is very awesome) while others just hang around.

They do have the potential to become a great server. RMS reviews do not prove that it is the best SHR. It is still developing, and I hope it does get better. However, players should judge servers better and write more accurate reviews. It does seem fishy how suddenly they got more reviews, and I do not know if players reviewed on their own or if there was some incentive offered. I'm just surprised that the reviews for Zeta RO suddenly plummeted and they do have the most players out of all SHR servers. Raguel's review of the server is quite accurate (they do have stability problems at times because of some... hosting issues? They still didn't fix that I guess...). Well, I hope To See Beyond RO grows into an amazing server worthy of its rankings! Some improvements are needed still, but it does take time after all~

TehChiiG0 · Dec 28, 2009, 08:29 PM

Quote from: Raguel on Dec 27, 2009, 11:42 PM
Hello, first of all, I'd like to introduce myself. My name isn't Raguel, of course. I have played TSBRO since it started, 4-5 months ago. At first, the server was quite nice. But, everything must come to an end. The server turned in something barely playable, for not saying a joke.

So, with this said, I'll start with my review.

Server

Stability: 5/10
The server is quite laggy. People gets randomly disconnected, and the average ping is quite bad.

Availability: 9/10
Even thought the server lags alot, I have seen it down just a couple of times, when they were changing hosts.

Community

Friendliness: 4/10
Community is rather stupid. Most of them are the typical SHR players ("I R PAWN U NUB"). The rest of them are super kawaii RO players n_n ^_^.
But, as in every server, I found some friends who I was able to talk with. They were just normal RO players. Suddenly, they had to quit because of a problem with one guild.
Forums are quite inactive, and boring. People likes to complain, complain, complain.

Eventfulness: 8/10
GMs host events at least once per hour, but sometimes, it's a little bit excessive. I mean, 3-4 events per hour? Hmm.
Some events are totally disorganized; GMs can just go "afk" without previous warning.

Game Masters:
I'm not going to use the normal rating system for this.
The GM team in this server is rather silly. 12+ GMs for 50-70 people. Hmm. That's more than an exagerated number of game masters. I'll provide some links for your amusement.
http://tsbro.forumotions.com/groupcp.forum?g=1
http://tsbro.forumotions.com/groupcp.forum?g=2 <--- Chalant quitted, Anger is a new co-admin. Lol.
http://tsbro.forumotions.com/groupcp.forum?g=3 <--- This list is missing 3 new GMs: Raindr0ps, Tig Oh Bittes, and Valentine. Plus, GM Godzilla (Yusei in the forums), Nekastroth (who's being re-hired soon). Probably i'm missing one. They are just too many!
Oh, and to make it even worse: http://tsbro.forumotions.com/news-f1/looking-for-2-new-gms-lack-of-old-gms-being-on-and-2-gms-left-t274.htm <--- Good god.

The admin, Mario, is really unprofessional. He makes us download huge data folders every now and then, instead of posting easy fixes. The new client is just 16mb, but when you patch, you have to wait... what, 1 hour?, so it downloads more than 150mb. Even a player pointed this out in one suggestion. It got blatanly ignored, though.
Ok, back to Mario. He really doesn't know how to manage a server. He hires new GMs almost every month, even thought he doesn't need more (and he won't need more until he reaches 200+, lol). His usage of the english language is quite funny. But it's not really relevant.
His server has 1000+ customs, ok. But since the server opened, he has been telling us "Yeah, i'll add the custom descriptions". Oh yeah, customs don't have descriptions, so, if you want to buy something, you will have to do it because you like it, not because of it's effect.
"Oh god, so many customs!" would you say. But yeah, the server is full of errors because of them. I, myself, keep erroring, even thought I have downloaded their last patch.

The other GMs... are just plain ridiculous. Only a couple of them are good, like Symph, Crimmy & Nekastroth. The other GMs are just plain bs. They know nothing about the server itself. My questions are usually ignored. Just ignored. Not even a "use ratemyserver.net please".

There's almost always an availible GM, because the GM team itself is huge.

Game-play:

Economy: 5/10
Only items being sold/bought/traded in the server, are some quest items. Wings, and ingredients in general. Cards are being sold in the mall, and this totally ruinned the economy. =/

Guild Competition: 10/10
Pretty good, actually. I have seen some really skilled guilds for a SHR server. There are 3-4 big guilds on the server.

Class Balance: 7/10
Ninjas & Sinx are the most overpowered classes. The server has some interesting nerfs/skill changes. Ranged classes have been buffed, and they actually have a chance to PvP.

Conclusion:
I can't believe this server is almost at the top of the SHR servers list. I wouldn't recommend it, at all. The GM team is unprofessional, the community is rude...
The server had potential. But, the gms totally ruinned it. The GM team needs a major re-think. So does the community.

Raguel

Let me introduce myself as brutally honest as possible
I am Chiigo/GM Godzilla/Yusei in forums
Played the server more than a 2-3 months
Became a staff member to helpout and fix and do things the need to be done as well

I'll end and denounce all these half-truths and false accusations and all this bs you are doing
Raguel or should i say fired GM Nekastroth or ingame server sinx name Forsaken

First off, you are NOT one of the first players to join this server
You got hired to be a GM even without knowing all the proper customized items in the server, I was teaching you and players do to as well
That loose Co Admin you are talking about is also ironically same name as you, Co Admin Forsaken
He was fired and abnned for giving players @commands and abusing several other server side issues, which i can give proof, unlike you who has only "heard" and using it as a means of deceit and false information, we have banned and ip banned them to resolve those issues

Second, the Server Reviews you are saying

Server Stability and Availability
We have faced numerous problems in the past in regards to error due to items, to DDoS attacks, Server hack's and other normal Server side issues and Host issues as well
I do not deny that has happened in the past, but we are still trying to fix those and we finally ahve a new full client working to at msot fix all those issues, and we shall continue to fix any more encountered errors; Also, The Server's uptime and availability is now at most 24/7, only to restart if the Admins add or fix something which we do on a basis if it is important to do so like fixing class skills or NPC's, We do not lag and players play normally, other than there net speed, but this server has finally reached stable and optimum efficiency in uptime, thus proving YOU wrong

Server Community and Eventfulness
You saying our community is stupid is a direct insult which i detest and despise you even more so
The server players are friendly and welcome every new player as much, even givingout items and helping out, I won't say the community is perfect, there is no such thing, Most if not in general of the community is friendly and play to have fun wether it be customs, quests, or pvp, proving you FALSE and a straight up liar as well
The friends you met were mostly Staff and players you fooled with your means, and this guild you are referring to that made "normal RO players quit",
Why don't you tell them to come up here backing up you as well?
I will admit we lost a few players due to the changing of the servers settings, items, of files and hosts we had to do, but that doesn't over all made MAJORITY of the players stay and continue to play and enjoy this SHR private server we have for them
Now, you saying forums are inactive is one blatant lie as well,
We help out as much as we can on any player who wants to join and provide useful information such as guides and threads for the staff and players to use
People who complain about the server get answered within at most 24hrs from there post, and if it is a skill or item that needs to be looked at, we,MAJORITY of the staff, as much as possible discuss it and see what we would do about it, but overall, Admin Mario decides whether or not to do as the player(s) suggested/informed topic

For Events, We try to keep the players entertained and have fun other than pvp or questing or leveling
What's the problem if we have active GM's who hold more events than any other server out there? And players join or not join on their own discretion?
Some GM's do make mistakes on certain events, some events are new and others take awhile to handle
We are only human, we are not perfect, but your inaccuracy is perfect
Some of us tend to go afk or brb with at least informing another Staff member to take over or handle the Event currently being held
Another one of your tries to flame and give the server a bad impression, which will fail

Now for the Game Masters
We have numerous Game Masters to keep the server always filled with events and support players as needed, be it server guides, quest guides, and even pvp builds to a degree to help them "Start-out" and get them going, and trying to be international as well
I do not see a problem why having + Staff is an issue, All GM's help the server in there own special ways, be it ingame of offgame
Questors, Scripters, Events GM, PvP GM, and Support GM are all titles which fall on either one GM or on different Staff Members depending on there field of specialty
Your so called "links" do not prove anything, Staff on forums aren't updated, but server side is and players know at least some of the Staff which are active in the GM Team
AND YOU SAYING NEKASTROTH IS ABOUT TO BE REHIRED IS SUCH A BIG JOKE
You resigned after crashing the server, moved on another server to script and develop, you were removed or quit that server, and now you are so desperate in trying to get back being a part of Staff, that you have caused so much drama the server has ever seen, be it staff or players
You resigned and not getting rehired back, get over it

And for the false information you are giving here's things for you and all the rest need to know because of you
Chalant is back on the Staff, but facing personal issues which i will not mention for respect
You using her as a reason for your own selfish needs just down rites pisses me off
You have no respect whatsoever and trying to use false information to the ratemyserver community
You are trying to bring down this server, which i can bet 50+ love and play it currently

The 3 new GM's that were hired were chosen for there available playtime which is on the other timezone, on the side of the world, since majority of the Staff live at the US
We are hiring 1 or 2 more as an added Staff to help out for the other timezones as well, Why is it such an issue?

Now for you defaming Admin Mario, I'll correct all this BS you are saying out here
He doesn't give out huge data folders, it's only 100MB, and you think that's huge? Is your ISP really that bad or just lying again?
The worst ISP to ever try and get that takes only an hour, and fastest takes 15mins or less
We had to giveout the data folders since we switch hosts and now we have finally a Full Client working, so no more Data folder issues
And just another fact information, it didn't stop majority of the players from playing the server
You just frankly want him to have a bad reputation so much, you lied on everything you just mentioned
He doesn't hire a new GM every month , He only hires those what he deem is good for the server, and fires Staff which are not doing there jobs
He hired me specifically as well after much playing so long in the server and knowing what i can do to help it grow and be better
You saying how he talks is funny is just plain BS, he fixes,scripts,encodes,pays, and plays the server as much as to give players what they need if it is possible
The item descriptions are still being worked on, this complaint isn't new, and we try at most, we have scripters working as much as they can for this, but this takes time,
but every single time one issue comes up after another, an example is this, YOU making it a HUGE ISSUE, when infact, it is only a small problem we are still working on everyday, we still ahve lvies to live, other than ingame, we also do IRL, and you badmouthing Mario and the whole TSBRO Staff shall not be overlooked lightly
The new patch and client is fully upto-date and has at most fixed 90% the errors you encounter, thus proving you a liar once again
Not to mention, you saying Nekastroth was good, makes it more obvious it is you
Most of the Staff know the server, not by heart such as Mario or Me, but know the basics of it, you giving false information yet again
And by the way, we do say "use ratemyserver.net", that's one of the lines we use only if we cannot help the player as much as we can already ingame
The Staff will always nearly have at least 1 GM on, the server still has issues, I cannot deny that, that's what we were hired for, to be a GAMEMASTER for the players

And for the Economy, Guild Competition, and Class Balance
The economy isn't perfect and being worked on, I will admit having MVP cards together inside the Mall is bad for the server's economy, but we want the players to have fun and be able to play RO the way they want it to be, be it questing, monster hunting, leveling, or pvping aspect as well
Irony of it is, YOU are the one who suggested to Admin Mario to add MVP cards in the mall

The Guilds in the server are fine as is, there haven't been any problems with it, there are pinoys, americans, indos, brs, and other different races who play the server

The Class Balance is NEVER perfect for any server
We daily check PvP for any Over Powered Classes and nerf and adjust the skills and classes the is deemed necessary
Sinxes aren't over powered, Ninjas too, You don't know the daily server changes, more or less even know what gets updated, making you false yet again

MY CONCLUSION
You have given the server a bad name with misuse of information, trying to shut us down with your false information,lies, and deceit you are already known for
We keep the server upto date and have a good time an Super High Rate has all to offer
We just hit #1 ranking yesterday, and you saying we are unprofessional is just another excuse, not all of us can do everything, which is why the Staff itself help each other out and communicate more as well, now even more so with your constant attacks on the server, even bringing it upto here
You shall not bring us down, you left the server and now using any means to shut us down just because you were denied being back in the Staff
You were a good apple, now gone bad
I detest i ever talked to you and pretty much blocked you on msn
Even if i have to bring the whole server to battle this issue you are making at ratemyserver.net forums
I'll make it crystal clear, we only want to have a good time and what you are doing is just a BIG FAT JOKE!!

P.S. I will edit or add more posts to reply to all of these issues, but if you want to really find out the truth for yourself,
Play the server and you'll know why it is great as it is, and how this one person is trying so hard to ruin it for everyone
Thank you for reading and i will get back to you
this isn't over...

orix1357 · Dec 28, 2009, 08:41 PM

100 MB downloads? Come on, I think this is the only server with compels people to download a large chunk of bytes. You should get software that allows making patchers.

Yukino · Dec 28, 2009, 08:59 PM

My bad, should have read his review more carefully. I believe the community there is absolutely friendly (except when people are angry of course like now). Even though they do have a lot of GMs, they keep the server eventful. I just hope that they have a variety of events (not just automated/activated Event NPCs). However, they can count down on the number though. Since it's always eventful, no need to add new GMs to the team. Trust your old GMs to do their jobs since they're almost always on? You don't need more than 2-3 GMs on at a time (including Admins). They are trying to balance classes (specialized weapons and all that) which is sort of unique. I do agree though, economy can be improved upon. Judging by Chiigo's post, I suppose stability is better, which is good for this growing server.

Now, I hope that what Chiigo said isn't true about Raguel... because if it is, Raguel, I want to know why you stole our website design. If not, ignore that.

I believe this is a good server for everyone to try out. The staff members do try their best to deal with and implement suggestions. The server is playable. The downloads can be more organized though. It is best to get a patcher working since it does take a while to download new data folders each time (100 mb each time?). Makes things simpler, too. Personally, the old GMs (except for that "special one") were/are really awesome and kind. Mario is a great Admin since he tries his best for his server. There was no need to badmouth him (should have typed this earlier). Well, I just hope that the server turns out well to live up to its ranking~

Raguel · Dec 28, 2009, 09:07 PM

Lol, ok, ok, I find that post quite hilarious.

First, you're really wrong if you think i'm Nekastroth. Don't make assumptions if you can't prove it, dear.
Also, I met Forsaken a couple of months ago, and I never liked him. I was really happy when he got fired.

So yeah... i'm not Nekastroth. You don't even know me, Chiigo. =/

Ok, back to the review.

I don't think you understand what Availability is. 9/10 means it's almost always online. About stability, I have seen people get dced a lot. Even if you're fixing it, this is my review, my opinion, my point of view. This is what I saw during my stay in your server.

About the community, again, this is what I lived while playing in your server. There's no such thing as the perfect community, as you said. What I don't like about TSB's community, is all the agressive people you can find in there. Sure, there's always someone that's going to help you, but it's not a big part of the server. Oh oh oh, stop there, Chiiro. Saying my friends were only staff members and people I "fooled" is pretty childish. This guys quitted even before I could get any contact information about them. If you still think i'm Nekastroth, you need to make up your mind.
Forums are quite dead. Even the off topic section is inactive. Sure, they might be a little bit more active than before. That doesn't change the fact that the forums are inactive.

Events tend to get boring when you play them 3-4 times a day. Nuff said.

About the GMs,
one player in your forums (Akraisel) made a suggestion. It was something like "Fire some GMs because you have too many". The server does indeed have tons of GMs.
Look at IntenseRO. It has 2 GMs and 1 Helper. They can handle a server with 600+ people online. What about TSB? 10+ GMs for 50-70 persons. And, as I said, half of the GMs play with their commands instead of help people. My questions got ignored or redirected to a superior GM tons of times. How is that helping? Mind explaining?

Oh, Chiigo, you sure disappoint me. I'm not Forsaken/Nekastroth for god's sake. I didn't even know Nekastroth is Forsaken o_o
I'm sorry, I heard he was being re-hired. My apologies if I was wrong.

Me using Chalant for my "own selfish reasons"? God, i'm a terrorist now? I must be a terrible person because I wanted to share my opinion about TSB. The server has potential, but because of some things, it's being lost.

About the data folders... only 100mb? Hahaha. I'm sure a lot of people will agree with me: most of clients are less than 80mb.
Oh yeah, the server is so updated. And it still uses sakray. Hmm...

Oh please, It has been 4 months already, and we still don't have the descriptions. What..?

The gameplay part....
I'm not Nekastroth. Stop saying I am.

Guilds are good. Nothing to add here.

Class Balance... please, look at the PvP room more than once per day.

---
I ignored a largue part of your post, because it was directed to Nekastroth, who, sadly for you, i'm not.

@Yukino: I'm not Forsaken/Nekastroth. It's sad being accussed of being someone I never liked.

Raguel.

PS:

QuoteThank you for reading and i will get back to you
this isn't over...

This isn't a movie, Chiigo.

ForsakenRayzor · Dec 28, 2009, 09:25 PM

LOL i can't believe it.

This is where Zilla's False Assumptions come into play.

Firstly i'm not Raguel w/e

Secondly I still play TSB why would i write a review to defame it ==;;

Thirdly Zilla i like the way you just assume its me and go flaming at me when that is so not me lol.

I wasn't even on during the time of these posts ==;;

" fired GM Nekastroth "

Resigned

http://tsbro.forumotions.com/farewells-f11/resignation-t235.htm

Lmao i think i was sleeping when he posted these ==;;

I've played for 1 1/2 weeks for God sake

I wouldn't know so much ==;;

That's what you are Yusei.

And this is precisely the reason why players write these review.

Raguel · Dec 28, 2009, 09:37 PM

Haha, I know right?

This just proves my point. A perfect example of an unprofessional GM. Making baseless assumptions.. haha.