TalonRO ~ An Insider's Point of View

[Latin]

TalonRO is a 5/5/3x server that can reach up to 8/8/3x depending on the Reward System. It has 1000-1500 people online.

I have been playing tRO for almost a year. TalonRO is a damn good server imo, and I'm glad to found it. I was downloading several server installer (with my pitiful download speed), but when tRO installer finished the download and I installed it, I instantly forgot about other installers I've been downloading. It's simply that good.

GMs
Server Owner : BlackTalon
High GMs : Boreas, Seiren, Shiris, Howl
Event GMs : Azul, Cherri, Rainbow, Kuma, Azrael, Aurelia

One thing to note, none of the high GMs are active player. This is an effective way to reduce the amount of corruption to near zero. On the other hand, this also gives a disadvantage on the development of PvP and WoE, since (imo) those 2 aspects of RO requires a real-time experience before any changes about them are made. Still, the advantage of no corruption (one thing that seems to be the downfall of most pservers) heavily overweigh the slow development of PvP or WoE.

You could say all the GMs are friendly, with a small note to Boreas. He's an Administrator for a reason, of course, and he seems to be the perfect guy about no corruption policy and dealing with stuffs regarding tRO development (scripts, security company, etc), but he needs fixing on the community communication skill. His opinions are well-tought, but he could be a bit rude on speaking them, in a way.

No complaints about other GMs. Seiren is a good GM regarding support tickets, and Howl is simply lovely for his personality and newsletter. I hardly see BlackTalon and Shiris both in-game and at forum, but seeing their old posts, they seems to be good people.

Support Tickets take up to 48 hours to be taken care of.

The event GMs are an amazing bunch. They held events quite regularly, and none of the eventss requires a sufficient level to join, everyone is welcome. This means a same opportunity for newbies and veterans to win them, and getting the prizes.

You could reach the GMs through !request in-game, support ticket, PM at forum, IRC (support chat).

Community
The community is friendly, with a touch of trolls and butthurts on !main. If you ask at !main in a good way (not spamming and such) and could endure the troll/butthurt that might target you during the wait, you'll get your answer. Several people conclude the community is bad just from the trolls, which is dumb. Play more, and you'll find the nice people of !main. Of course, you being the nice person who answer other's questions would mean other people will treat you nicely (or at least other nice people will note you).

Out of !main, the community is good. You can ask people at town (sadly many people dont do this because of !main), and most of people who hang out at towns are nice, assuming you dont beg/push them to get what you want.

Forum
The forum is best. It's very active. There are hardly any troll, and assuming you ask at the right section, you'll get your answer (and if you didnt get the right section, you still get your answer most of the time). The sad part, hardly any newbies bother using that search button. THAT SEARCH BUTTON. As the result, most of the questions at Strategies and Tips (section for asking about where to farm, how to level, etc) are same questions repeated over and over. All in all, forum is the best place to ask about stuffs.

Economy
The best economy I've ever seen. For a 6 years old server, item prices is rather low. The Keys : Reward Guru and Reward System. Since most of the cards are sold at guru for Talon Coin (TC), this creates a cap for them. This means no uber high price for marc/evil druid card (which is important at pvp/woe, I took that 2 cards because those cards are always on high demand on any servers, especially low rate) and other cards. Note the low rate. Card drops are 0.03%, so without the guru giving cap, it's possible for highly demanded cards to reach 20m+ Next part, reward system. Every vote you did will give you a vote points that can be exchanged to Copper Coins (CC). Cc can be exchanged to TC with a certain exchange rate. The lowest exchange possible is 50 CC -> 1 TC (1 sets of voting give at least 10 CC, vote every 12 hours). Exchange rate can change based on the amount of vote. Basically, every week there'll be a vote goal. If it's reached, the exchange rate will be lowered by 5, up to 50->1. As you can guess, at a low exchange rate, people would exchange their CC to TC -> TC's amount are high on market -> lower TC price (on zeny). This means you could get the items/cards you want on guru for lower price -> lower price of items/cards on market. On the other hand, high exchange rate will affect the economy in a way, slightly raising prices of all items sold in guru. This is why reward system is a very important tools of economy, and this tools is completely affected by community, through voting. Every successful voting goal will made the next week's goal to increase slightly, and every failed voting goal will made the next week's goal to decrease slightly. This means a very dynamic economy, and I'll enforce it for the second time, this dynamic economy is completely on the hand of community.

Donations are available, $1 for 1 TC (and 1 TC is roughly 1.05m currently). A person donating -> more TC on market -> lower price of TC -> lower price overall for almost every items. So, as you can see, a mass donation would not break the economy, it'll just decrease TC price, and as such decreasing other item's price. Even if the donator forcing to sell his TC on a high price, other people can ignore that donator and get their own TC through voting/minigames (you can play Bingo/Monster Race and win ~10 CC, I forgot the exact amount, for every win). Or they could hunt Monster of the Week, a certain monster that is tagged for that week which will drop 1 cC and a certain item at a mysterious drop rate.

Another important aspect on economy is !whosell/!ws. This certain command allow even a newbies to gain control over the economy. When I first joined, I keep !ws for stuffs such as Piece of Cake/Strawberry (important HP/SP healing for Vanilla PvP/WoE), Blue Herbs, Blue Potion, Witch Starsand, etc. I sounds like a businessman =.= Well, basically I !ws them, and bought all low-priced cakes/straws/blue herbs/etc, and revend them on a slightly higher price. These !ws also mean a newbie could control item prices if he want (and if he know). You could argue "there's no way newbie could get the money to buy those cakes/straws/stuffs to control the price", but I did it. I just need to kill several easy monsters (Myst Case for cakes, Wolf for Straws, and both of them gives good exp), and vend those items, get my zenies, and recycle it through buy and resell. Ofc this is risky since a random guy could mass sell at a much lower price, that particular items you tried to control the price, but you can just wait, and with the high population, that random guy's item will be quickly absorbed, and you can start your control again.

Autoloot is limited to level 70 (if you are about to join, before you start complaining, use THAT SEARCH BUTTON on our forum), which removes those 1-shot Double Strafe-Teleport snipers. This means the farm speed is reduced in a way, and as such SQI/SQI bonus ingredients service is a viable income, as shown next.

A notable part of economy, is services selling, such as leech/seals. Leeching services is popular here, People can just farm items/cards, sell it for zeny, and buy leech to gain their level. They also have the option to party (with 15 level gap for even share exp and nice exp bonus), or they could solo (this is a bit out of the economy topic, I know). Another services is seals service. There are also special Grape Juice (GJ) leech sold by champion. Basically, you gave them 3-4k GJ (the ingredients are readily available at npc, 200z for grapes, 3z for empty bottle) and they will leech you at Dimensional Gorge while farming for diablos manteau/skin of ventoss/what not.

Seals are basically a quest to defeat tons of monsters and MvPs to gain access to Valhalla. There are 4 seals, Prontera/Nifflheim/Manuk/Yuno, and completing them gives you access to Valhalla, where you could make Super Quest Items (SQI). Since the monsters at seals is hard for people to defeat without a proper party, seals service is an option if you have the zeny. Ofc, SQI is a strong items, with each classes have their own SQI. It's good, but not necessary. People with the right gears could farm nearly as good as SQI owners.

SQI itself requires various items to make, and even more items to give bonus to (you can give SQI up to 4 certain bonuses to make it stronger), and these opens up even more farming choices. SQI/SQI bonus ingredients service is also a choice to sell here.

All in all, this server have a very healthy economy, and with my laziness (totally no farming, I just hang out at minigames/buy and resell), I still can save around 1b worth of items now (that would mean 1000 TC -> $1000 if I donate). Several newbies who started around the same time even is richer than me (3b or more @.@), and none of us are donating. Donations is balanced, where donators could get their items quickly, but there are no exclusive donation items that overwhelm normal items. Non-donator can get the same items as donator, although slower.

[Latin]

Guild Competition
As I've said before, because of the facts that none of the high GMs are actively playing, our WoE/PvP development is quite slow. For the early 9 months of my experience in tRO, most guild just defend on emperium room. The last 3 months, some guilds tried to bring a change of style in WoE to GvG style instead of portal defense, and they are quite successful lately.

Sadly, there are only first edition (FE) WoE here, no WoE 2.0 (last WoE 2.0 event are around 4 months ago) or battlegrounds. There are Vanilla WoE/PvP where MvP cards and SQI are disabled, and Unrestricted PvP/WoE where everything is avaiable. The GMs said they are working for BG, but seeing the time it took for them, it seems to be low in their list, so for now guilds just have to be satisfied with what's available.

Also, Boreas said that tRO is more of PvM server, so that's it, I guess. No complaints from me about this, although I'm still hoping.

Class Balance
Classes are balanced, from what I see.

On farming, almost every classes can compete (except the poor extended classes). Knight can farm with Bowling Bash (BB), while Crusader can farm at Glast Heim Churchyard (GHC) with their Grand Cross, where the mobs are modified to tons of zombie and skeleton prisoners. Rogue is a popular choice of farming class, with Mavka/Sleeper/Geffenia as popular place for them. Triple Attack is popular plagiarism choice, or BB later for stalker and people with GEC (general egnigem cenia card, slotted at shoes, giving boost to hp/sp, and gives 100 HP and SP regen every 10 seconds, practically removing the need of sp healing items). Assassin can farm at mavka/sleeper/geffenia/mobster (they modified Kokomo beach to have ~40 Mobsters (I forgot the exact amount) with 75% Sapphire drop rate) too, although they cant have the auto-steal. Priest could do Magnus Exorcismus GHC/Glast Heim Prison (GHP) with a mobber, or selling leech at abbeywhen they become rich, while Monk can do sleepers with Investigate. Hunter/Bard/Gypsy is popular for farming Stings, which drops Glove[1] and Sting Card (modified to DEX+4), where those two items are important to reach instant cast the cheap way. Wizard can farm at GHC/GHP with Storm Gust+Quagmire, while Sage simply sucks (lol). Sage can farm GHC/GHP too with firewall/heaven's drive, but hardly anyone made sage for farming, most sage around are for endow slave. Alchemist got buffs for their homunculus (2x HP and I forgot), while Blacksmith/Whitesmith is another popular choice for rich people, due to the ability to Greed. They requires gears to roll, though. One-shotted MvP is dominated by HW/Champion/Creator, as usual.

Ninja, Super Novice, TaeKwon ranker, Gunslinger, and Soul Linker simply sucks at farming, and before anyone complaint, I'll just point out that there are much better classes to farm at. Star Gladiator is a popular class to sell leech, Odin Leech for base exp and Dimensional Gorgle/Morocc Leech for job exp (especially for Transcendent 2nd class).

I dont PvP much, so I cant tell, but on WoE, almost all classes is ok. I wont talk about their effectiveness, so you can figure it out yourselves. Melee squad consists of LK, SinX, Whitesmith, Sacrifice Pally, Champion. Ranged squad consists of Focused Arrow Strike Sniper, Creator, HW, Bolter Prof, Full Buster Gunslinger, Shield Chain/Pressure Pally. Support squad consist of HP, Prof, Soul Linker, Clown, Status Arrow Shower Sniper, SPP Creator, Ganban HW. Special squad are Ecaller Stalker, Breaker Sinx/Star Gladiator, Trapper Sniper, Devotion Pally, Screamer/Slow Grace Gypsy. Ninja and TaeKwon ranker are of unknown use, although Ninja can be a random squad at Unres WoE (their SQI removes the need of ninja stones).

Note that Asura strike have 15 seconds after cast delay here, so champs have to asura the right person at the right time. For PvP, Champs can rape with Finger Offensive. Several people complained about bio being OP at PvP due to available AD ingredients at shop and buffed homun, but in WoE bio is balanced. Their buffed homuns are stunned/frozen/dead while they themselves are forced to be low vit which dies to wizards or high vit which dies to another bio (that can tank the enemies' AD with devo guildmates/pneuma support)

The server itself
Popular healing items are Meat (heals around 2x red potion with modified 2 weight) and Grape Juice (With lv10 Discount, it costs 159z each to make, with modified 0.5 weight).  MvP Cards are readily available here (with modifications) for 12 or 20 TC, with exception of Maya Purple Card (modified here, it's like free Box of Sunlight for 10 seconds with a 60 seconds cooldown, only useful at Unres PvP/WoE). While people can complaints about this being overpowered, my experience here have shown that this system is totally balanced. If you have read the Economy part above, you would see that these cards are available for anyone, and their price is 21m-ish, which is like 21 hour of farming if your farm rate is 1m/hour (average farm rate is 2m/hour, leech price rate is 2m/hour for abbey, 4-6m/hour for odin, 6m/hour for thor, 4-6m/hour for morocc). Not to mention you can get your zenies simply though voting and exchanging it to TC. I totally prefer a widely-available MvP cards (although I never expect this aspect too when I joined) where people are evened instead of a server where a GTB cards will put you on a whole different level, and could be priced to 2b (and most of them are servers with inflation). Not to mention those servers tends to have real-money trading to zeny/MvP cards, from my experience.

The best aspect about the server : It's alive. GMs keep making seasonal events (for an idea about duration of events; last 5 seasonal events : Christmas, Valentine, Lunar new year, Sixth-Year anniversary, and currently Easter) with most of the events giving headgears and costumes. Not to mention the amazing updates, allowing us to have Bibilan 6 and renewed El Dicastes and Dewata mob on a pre-renewal environment.

From what I saw on other short-playtime reviews, they are wrong at expecting the popular items.

*Warning : Wall of Text incoming, and more of guide actually*

Popular Equipments here

Upper headgear : Lord Kaho's Horn (Kaho), 50 TC at guru, this means 52-54m at market. It gives STR/INT/DEX/MDEF+20. This is the aim for many people. I myself wait for 2 months before suddenly a spike of luck on my part got me 60m in 2 days, lol. You can customize your kaho for 10 TC to a customized kaho (CKaho) which is basically a headgear with kaho stats. This gives people the option to be fashionable while getting the stats. You might think it's overpowered, but considering the time it took to get one, it's worth it. For vanilla PvP/WoE, beret or anything that gives 10% demi human reduction is popular for front classes.

Mid headgear : Slotted STR/AGI/INT+1 mid. There are no other stat for slotted mid, so if you think a robo eye[1] gives dex, you are wrong. It gives INT+1. We have a wide variation of slotted headgears, so people can be fashionable while getting the stat they want. Popular cards are bloody knight (ATK+30), Gryphon (too long to mention the effects), Mistress (20 TC), Vanberk.

Low headgear : Best are ***** Cat Bell which gives 5 def, with 25 TC price on guru. You might think it's overpriced, but it's 5 def on a lower headgear. It's a luxury, You can Though. People prefer 5-10 TC lower headgear that gives MATK/ATK+1%, INT/AGI/STR/LUK/VIT+1 or ATK+5 (there are a cheap quest for an ATK+5 lowe headgear). There are no DEX+1 lower.

Armor : Newbies loves pantie+undershirt, which are widely vended for ~50,000z each. Advanced people get stat-enchanted armor with choices as follow : STR/AGI/DEX/VIT/INT/LUK+1/2/3, DEF/MDEF/CRIT+2/3/4, ASPD+1/2/3%, For mvp hunters/high end farmers, swapping RSX elemental armors (RSX is 12 TC, elemental armors[1] is 10 TC) is the hit.

Weapon : Various weapons are popular, depending on the classes. Ofc MvP-carded weapons have their popularity, but weapons such as Ice Pick (nerfed to -30% dmg to demi-human and emperium) for farming sleepers/geffenia, weeder knife/caesar's sword for farming mavka is even more popular. in fact, Caesar's Sword/Ice Pick + Fire endow could be better (and much cheaper) in mavka/sleeper compared to a +7 Mes[Doppel-TurtleGeneral-TurtleGeneral). Again, notice that most MvP cards are modified here.

Shield : shield arent so important here, because def isnt that important for newbies with the cheap meats. MvP hunters/high-end farmers get Valk Alice (valk is 35 TC at guru, Alice 10 TC) with GTB guard to swap (GTB is 20 TC). GTB is not overpowered here. You can roll to unres WoE/PvP with gtb, and raped by bio/knight/sinx/champion/what not. In WoE, especially, wizard's role is to force people to swap from Toad (35% demi human reduction, 20 TC) to gtb, making them squishy to other classes.

Garment : Undershirt. For rich people, deviling with elemental armor it is. LoD is only considered for place with  various elemental attacks. Stem Worm hood/muffler (modified to DEX+5) is a nice option to reach IC.

Shoes : Gargoyle (DEX+5) shoes, sleipnir[0] (25 TC, or questable). General Egnigem cenia (12 TC), Eddga (12 TC 25% HP and endure all time), Moonlight Flower (20 TC, 25% +mHP, fast move, DEX+5), Dark Lord (50% +mHP) are popular choice as well, with GEC useful almost anywhere due to less of weight from removed GJ, which is damn good for BB knight/rogue, double strafe spam hunter (which are popular farming classes), Eddga for mobbers especially whitesmith, Moonlight Flower for wizzies, and Dark Lord for high-end tanker/knights (only for high-end/knights, it's not as popular as you think). Sleipnir[1] is available as a SQI, and it's a high-end footgear with 80 level requirements (Sleipnir[0] share this req too).

Accessory : Sting Glove (total of DEX+5) for IC and hunters, mantis ring for more str, hell-poodle acc for 100% more heal from meat (it feels like a white potion). High end accessory are SQI, which are brisingamen (+6 all stat except dex, dex+3) which could be carded with ifrit (modified, no earthquake) or sting for more dex. Megingjard gives STR+30 and some mdef with 10% asura damage reduction and no STR bonus for sinx. All around a-bit-rich accessory would be Celebration Ring which gives +5 to all stats (35 TC). For Vanilla WoE, Zerom Orlean's Glove (OG is sold at guru for 10 TC, zerom for 5 TC), since sting/stem worm/gargoyle are not usable at vanilla.

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Server Rules and Punishments
Trading anything in-game for anything not in-game are bannable offense. Botting is nearly impossible due to harmony and watchful GMs. KS-ing can be reported, and proved KS report will give the offender with 12 hour mute. Second KS offense by the same person can lead to up to 7 days ban. Profanity/non-english/!market or !recruit material at !main, if reported or done when a GM is around will give 3 hours mute, assuming enough warnings are made. Disrespecting GMs (and they have quite a patience for general jokes/mocking) lead to 6 hours mute. Harassment can result to 3-12 hours mute, assuming the harassed using /ex already, and the harassment is not involving sex/race. Racism/sexist comments/IGN could lead to a ban depending on severity.

Every punishment except ban is put at Punishment Log at General Section of forum, available to see by anyone. Report is done in General Report section at forum, with at most 1 week before the GMs take care of the report (they usually only take around 2 days to take care of them, though). You could also report through support ticket/PM/IRC with enough evidence, of course.

All in all, the rules are there and they are reasonable in the punishments. Every punishment is handed out if the report have enough evidence, and there are no favoritism at all.

Stability and Availability
From a simple check at speedtest.net, it seems i'm using a Grade C ISP with 0.53 Mb/s download speed and 0.47 Mb/s upload speed, and 60 Ping. IDK what those mean, anyway what I want to say is I hardly have any lag experience on tRO. Before knowing ROExt, I can open 2 clients with some lag, and now with ROExt, I can open 5 clients with almost no lag.

TalonRO is available 24/7 assuming there are no reboot/crashes like we had several days ago (because of a mass DDoS to our server, and you can check what anti-DDoS company we are using at a random ip address tracker), causing a rollback of 7 hours (that should show how often tRO doing back-up). There are not a time when it's closed just because the owner feel like he want to.

Definitely a recommended server, with a note of people who are trying : give the server a try for several weeks before you could see how it works.

Feel free to ask if you are a bit confused or interested about an aspect I forgot to mention!

[Boreas]

Thank you for the honest review!

Sidenote: Socrates is no longer part of the staff, he decided to quit a couple of weeks ago.

[Latin]

Thanks for the notice!

[DeePee]

Whoa, that was thorough.

Glad you're liking it If you have any more feedback on how to improve things, don't hesitate to let us know~

-Seiren

[RoseTea]

Definitely a recommended server, with a note of people who are trying : give the server a try for several weeks before you could see how it works.

"You must be this tall play this long before you can grasp the genius of our server."  I can't think of any other server's community that insists on months of up-front time investment before you can "get it" (as if that's a motivation to play).

While people can complaints about this being overpowered, my experience here have shown that this system is totally balanced. If you have read the Economy part above, you would see that these cards are available for anyone,

Having read the economy part, I seem to get the feeling your entire economy revolves around Talon Coins.

Also, if something is overpowered, but it's available to everyone, does it stop becoming overpowered?  Being overpowered means it's absolutely the best solution, as in, you would never want to NOT use it.  Just because it's available to everyone, does that actually balance things, or just give the appearance of balance?

[Cressy]

"You must be this tall play this long before you can grasp the genius of our server."  I can't think of any other server's community that insists on months of up-front time investment before you can "get it" (as if that's a motivation to play).
Having read the economy part, I seem to get the feeling your entire economy revolves around Talon Coins.

Also, if something is overpowered, but it's available to everyone, does it stop becoming overpowered?  Being overpowered means it's absolutely the best solution, as in, you would never want to NOT use it.  Just because it's available to everyone, does that actually balance things, or just give the appearance of balance?

You sure love Talon a lot, seems like you stalk the RMS forum waiting for reviews to pop up :3 TalonRO should get a restraining order maybe...

But anyways, Yes the economy does revolve around Talon Coins. I'm sorry if the server seemed like it was hiding that, was not intentional. And in my personal opinion, yea, everyone being able to get the same over powered stuff is balanced. It means everyone will be on the same level eventually. On top of that the more over powered stuff are quest items, remember? And you can't buy them with Talon Coins, you can buy cards to put in them, but what good are 2 dopple cards without a weapon to use them in? However I see that in your opinion it's not balanced, and that's ok, you're allowed an opinion, plus you don't like the server and don't play there, so it shouldn't ever be an issue for you

As for the "you must play this long to understand the genius" well, I think it's more that, you can't experience much in, say, 2 days? You can get some levels and see the really basic parts of the server. But most of our custom features are hidden in that time because people are busy leveling up and getting some basic gears so they can actually do things. You don't really get into the economy until you're settled into the server, just like you don't get to explore all our different farming places. You miss out on the real fun of Monster/Map of the week, hunting board, mini games, custom quests. And I can see why, the first few days are spent making it so you can actually play the server

[RoseTea]

You sure love Talon a lot, seems like you stalk the RMS forum waiting for reviews to pop up :3 TalonRO should get a restraining order maybe...

Why do I get called out for this and not DeePee again?  You're not exactly innocent yourself, champ: 5/6 of your own posts are in Talon threads and your first post was, hilariously, in our own review thread as you rushed to defend it.

http://forum.ratemyserver.net/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=2770

[Cressy]

Why do I get called out for this and not DeePee again?

http://forum.ratemyserver.net/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=2770

uhhhh, because he's one of the servers head GMs, and it's kinda... his job? ._.

[RoseTea]

uhhhh, because he's one of the servers head GMs, and it's kinda... his job? ._.

Recruitment for TalonRO Game Master:
- Significant experience in Ragnarok Online community management
- Must watch all RMS threads at all opportunities to either defend server or enthusiastically approve of positive reviews
- Must be able to competently prioritize time and tasks to better server nah, just keep posting in review threads

Then again, didn't you say TalonRO doesn't necessarily care about the thoughts of one person?  Why should they care about individual reviews then?  If one person posts about liking it or not, whatever, right?

I just find it hilarious how quickly and obsessively it happens every single time.  It's a jump, a call to duty as quickly as possible, hell Boreas made his post within 15 minutes of the thread being made!

[Cressy]

Recruitment for TalonRO Game Master:
- Significant experience in Ragnarok Online community management
- Must watch all RMS threads at all opportunities to either defend server or enthusiastically approve of positive reviews
- Must be able to competently prioritize time and tasks to better server nah, just keep posting in review threads

Then again, didn't you say TalonRO doesn't necessarily care about the thoughts of one person?  Why should they care about individual reviews then?  If one person posts about liking it or not, whatever, right?

I just find it hilarious how quickly and obsessively it happens every single time.

The server enjoys thanking people for nice reviews, it's just manners dear but there is no need for us to continue spamming and being off topic on someone else's review! You have voiced your opinion and I have voiced mine in return. Let's leave this thread be now.

[Latin]

As I've mentioned, MvP cards turn out to be not as overpowered as it seems. Hell, I hardly use those bosses cards other than deviling, mistress and eddga for leeching (which I dont do often). And out of those three, the only must requirements before you can leech is mistress (which is ... more a convenience card).

Various weapons are popular, depending on the classes. Ofc MvP-carded weapons have their popularity, but weapons such as Ice Pick (nerfed to -30% dmg to demi-human and emperium) for farming sleepers/geffenia, weeder knife/caesar's sword for farming mavka is even more popular. in fact, Caesar's Sword/Ice Pick + Fire endow could be better (and much cheaper) in mavka/sleeper compared to a +7 Mes[Doppel-TurtleGeneral-TurtleGeneral). Again, notice that most MvP cards are modified here.

Also, I said "give a try for several weeks", because the reward system change things every week, you know.

[Rojo]

From this review, I gather that TalonRO is a pretty cool guy. Eh has a stable economy and doesn't afraid of anything.

But really, this is a pretty thorough, fair review of TalonRO. Kudos for writing it.

[Cressy]

From this review, I gather that TalonRO is a pretty cool guy. Eh has a stable economy and doesn't afraid of anything.

TalonRO: Doesn't afraid of anything.

I see a new motto here~

[Cawliflower]

You sure love Talon a lot, seems like you stalk the RMS forum waiting for reviews to pop up :3 TalonRO should get a restraining order maybe...

But anyways, Yes the economy does revolve around Talon Coins. I'm sorry if the server seemed like it was hiding that, was not intentional. And in my personal opinion, yea, everyone being able to get the same over powered stuff is balanced. It means everyone will be on the same level eventually. On top of that the more over powered stuff are quest items, remember? And you can't buy them with Talon Coins, you can buy cards to put in them, but what good are 2 dopple cards without a weapon to use them in? However I see that in your opinion it's not balanced, and that's ok, you're allowed an opinion, plus you don't like the server and don't play there, so it shouldn't ever be an issue for you

As for the "you must play this long to understand the genius" well, I think it's more that, you can't experience much in, say, 2 days? You can get some levels and see the really basic parts of the server. But most of our custom features are hidden in that time because people are busy leveling up and getting some basic gears so they can actually do things. You don't really get into the economy until you're settled into the server, just like you don't get to explore all our different farming places. You miss out on the real fun of Monster/Map of the week, hunting board, mini games, custom quests. And I can see why, the first few days are spent making it so you can actually play the server

Passive aggressive, much? Obviously, RoseTea's commentary (which, might I add, is his/her opinion! Who cares?!) isn't always positive in regards to TalonRO and since you're affiliated with Talon (as it seems you're either a player or staff member) you're retaliating. Get over yourself, and move on. Opinions are what makes RMS go around. These threads aren't just for the server owners/staff to post opinions in - it's a free for all as long as the topic stays on subject. Hell, I've been nailed to the cross on RMS and you've just got to take it, defend it where possible, and let the spectators draw their own opinions. It's really not a big deal.

[Angelique]

"You must be this tall play this long before you can grasp the genius of our server."  I can't think of any other server's community that insists on months of up-front time investment before you can "get it" (as if that's a motivation to play).
Having read the economy part, I seem to get the feeling your entire economy revolves around Talon Coins.

Just like any MMORPG, starting off is difficult. Prices seem ridiculously high, and it seems impossible for you to get to that level. Until you actually play for some time, you don't realise it's actually quite easy to get to a high degree of play, it doesn't require donating, it just takes some time initially because you are an almost buck naked novice with no resources and little understanding of the tRO economy and gameplay changes as a result of the customs. One of the Joys of playing tRO is that actually have fun and feel like you've achieved something because it's not made to be easy. Other server's communities might not insist on it -- but hey they aren't doing as well as tRO are they?

The inflation/deflation of the server revolves around Talon Coins for items that exist inside the guru (which does not include everything), and that is at a maximum of ±100,000 zeny in extreme situations (keep in mind this is in the context of Talon Coins being worth on average 1,000,000 zeny. 10% up or down from the "average" price in the time I've been playing at tRO (more than 2 years), and to my knowledge within the last ~4 years it's been in a similar state. The rest of the economy moderates itself (supply and demand). A server which can keep prices at a steady state for more than 4 years is doing something right.

It's also important to note that the prices of items revolve around Talon Coins, but it is not necessary to donate for Talon Coins to be well geared. A donation will get you started faster than others, but will get you nowhere close to the end-game play and gears. I've played on this server for ~2 years and have managed to mass more than ~10billion zeny worth of gears without donating even once. That's the equivalent of $10,000 USD in donations. I mention this because you seem to be under the impression you need to buy Talon Coins to be successful in game. Most donators will donate a few hundred dollars, in the extreme maybe a few thousand dollars. But they will still lag behind those who play for their gears.

My gears combined with my "donated $20 to tRO for charity after 4 years of playing" boyfriend amass much more than this amount, but we STILL find there are gears we have still yet to get. If you can find someone who is willing to donate more than $20,000 USD to get to the same level as a long time player then by all means go ahead :/ But your whole assumption that the donation system, and buying Talon Coins, defines tRO is a farce.

Also, please understand that the Talon Coin system (that is, the exchange rate) is controlled by the community, not the GMs, so fluctuations in the economy are as a result of the community as a whole.

Also, if something is overpowered, but it's available to everyone, does it stop becoming overpowered?  Being overpowered means it's absolutely the best solution, as in, you would never want to NOT use it.  Just because it's available to everyone, does that actually balance things, or just give the appearance of balance?[/color][/b]

It's actually balanced. If everyone has the ability to get the item with a little effort, everyone is on an even playing field. Rather than 1 person owning GR in PVP and being the only one who can tank that IC Asura, everyone can tank that IC Asura. Rather than only the rich being able to afford these cards, anyone can afford them and use them.

It becomes unbalanced when an item gives a small group of individuals an advantage in game play over all other individuals. This simply does not happen in tRO.

It is a little strange to see heaps of MVP cards everywhere initially, but that's why people say you should stay at tRO for longer than a few weeks and get a better feel of the server rather than writing it off so quickly. You actually start to understand the balance of the server.

I highly doubt this will change your exceedingly negative view of tRO, however I wanted to respond to some points and try to help you understand it from the perspective of a long-time player.

[Triper]

I'm tired of seeing the same complaints all over again about the same items[I don't need to point names, that users know that and it's enough, we're not 3 years old kids afterall] and this isn't just for this topic only, also applies to some others too because this is starting to be always the same with some servers and this one is getting a bit out of hands.


It's fine when people defend over accusations about their servers/where they play, they're on their rights, but some are just too much because it's not defend anymore, it's more like - I don't want to see any single negative point about my server around so I'm going to try to turn that accusation upside down MWAHAHAHAHAHHA and that's just too much.
We're not on the nazi time@WWII or rule by some dictator, people are free to have their own opinions[even if some are a bit over the top and people should take care about that. Emotions are cool and stuff, they're what make you different from others, but don't let them control you when you post it, you may end posting something that you didn't want because you were dominated by them] so a bit of respect should be given, like if it was your own post, and not just jump and just call this and that.

Serious, some people need to accept that and that:
-> Negative points/reviews about a server will always exist, you can either accept them and improve your server based on that or simply ignore their existance.
If you don't like that then too bad, it's their opinion, accept the fact that you're not alone in the world.
-> There is no need to go into "OMG BRITNEY NOOO" mode over a bad review, it's just that the server wasn't as someone though so they are pointing the flaws, it's up to staff of that server to accept or reject the opinions.
If they're pointing fingers about this and that non-stop then it's another thing, you're on your own right to defend as the rules say but there is no need to transform the topic into a drama pool and you can always report the post using the Report to moderator at the bottom right corner of it in some cases.
->  There is no need to bash on the same aspect of a server non-stop, we already got it - "YOU DON'T LIKE THAT, FINE. Can we now change to another subject?". Poking more on the wound is not productive for anyone.
-> Each server is different so different mechanics, different ways of them work, different ways of economy work around, there is no need to make that be noticed all the time or claim that they suck because of that.
There is life outside of the game, remember it![And also more servers! YES, THEY EXIST! AMAZING, right?]
-> Some people also only play servers that have a ton of gear easy to get by who spends real money by tons of reasons[some bad, some good].
Does this mean that we need to be always on alert about that fact that is a negative aspect to you? No, if you've problems with that, you can post that problem when reviewing the server and it's done. If the staff reads it they will know that you don't like it and it may also make others don't like too since players reading your review will also notice that and be aware of the problem, there is no need to always complain about that when the server in question is brought to the topic in any discussion. It's your opinion and you gave it, job done. If others complain about it, then you can join your voice to it but that's all.
If you don't want to make a review, you can always try to talk with the staff and discuss that privately and see f they're open to get a balanced way for both sides or simply just change servers, problem resolved, no drama involved.
-> If the staff of a server likes to say thanks for every single review, it's their thing.
Like it or not, their community may enjoy that because they see that the staff cares about them.
Sometimes it may be extreme, true, but it's their way of acting and if someone does that, others may do the same too. Some do it here, some just say thanks for the time used to post reviews here in their servers using the global broadcast. Others just make a post on their forums. It's a simple thanks for the time used to show how the server is for outsides that for some may mean a lot.

Saying this, if people want to keep discussing stuff like grown up people, go for it, it's cool to see those discussions and reading both sides of the coin and sometimes those discussions even end in something totally not expected and someone learns a new thing.

If it's for more of the same like 2 kids discussing over which lollipop is better when both are the same, I will have to really think about closing this topic, make a new post and posting names and the reason of why they forced the topic to be closed and I'm sure that nobody wants it to end like that. Will it look bad? Sure but I just got tired of the same non-productive topics where people just seem to know how to bash.

Serious, I'm a person with a super open mind and I've no problem with people expressing their opinions and I can accept when I error and fail too but every time that there is a review about some servers and/or some specific detail, it seems to end always on the same which hurts more then it helps the community.

Just as a final note to end this wall of text[I know how much people hatelove them], I would also like to remember that this little section exists and that people can post there to:

Discuss about different Ragnarok Online Private servers in this forum only. Anything from rants to pure appreciation. Please do not flame or troll.

Yes, you can make topics and discuss those things there and even by making a global approach about them, neat isn't it?

[gametraffic]

ty for review is fair

[BloodTyrant]

So I've been playing on this server for a little over 3 weeks now, and here are my opinions so far (will try to align with the original poster's topics with some added topics of my own)

It's unfortunate that the OP started with GMs, as my experience with the TalonRO staff was less than pleasant.
Eager to give myself an early boost, I went ahead and donated a small amount of money to get some starter gears.  But I accidentally messed up the donation claim (my own fault).  However, this ticket sat for 4 days before I finally had to approach GM after GM until I finally got up to Boreas... who as the OP already mentioned, is not the best at communicating with others.  He has a bit of a god-complex and to this day claims that "we do not get paid for our services".  How much of the donation money you see is between you and the owner, but please stop claiming that you're maintaining the server for absolutely free; that money goes somewhere.

After seeing some more of his forum responses, he has a quite the snarky attitude to any criticism and will sometimes takes things to a personal level.  This is not necessarily a bad thing though, as it shows he cares about the server.  He does his job well, but needs to lighten up, since he is the lead GM of a GAME after all.  He alone is the only black mark I have on the GMs, the rest are great GMs that are very active and friendly.  From what I've seen so far, there's usually at least 1 event per day.


About the Community...
!main chat was kind of a miss for me...  The intention for having that feature was good, but in the end, I mostly found undesirables there.  Sarcasm, spoilers, and trolls run rampant every now and then.  Also, I personally have a hard time following the !main rules, as I feel they are too strict and the punishment too harsh (3 hour mute on attack and chat for first offense - you can still play other chars though and afk overnight).  That being said, I've never seen a server with such good enforcement, it does filter out some of the unwanted noise of a general chat.  I now prefer to play with !main off though for those reasons I stated earlier, which kind of defeats the purpose of the feature if you ask me.  However, if you can follow the rules of !main chat and ignore the pettiness that comes with it at times, you can find some good folk willing to help out or just chat.

My guild experience is limited, as I had a hard time finding a guild for my tastes.  Most seem to be just small social guilds mixed in with a few hardcore competitors.  I simply wanted a guild in between, but had a hard time finding one.  Your experience may differ.


The Forums are the best I've seen for any RO server, it's the most active one I've been a part of.  With responses lasting no more than 30mins or so for all my posts.  The control panel for Talon RO is pretty nice too, as it is more accurate to use than RMS with all the modded items designed specifically for this server.  The item database can show you the lowest vend price in real time, and there's a sweet stat calculator too =).  I am impressed with the amount of work that went into this CP for just a private server.  There are always things that can be improved with it of course, but nothing crucial or urgent.  On a side note, I would've loved to have seen a @mobinfo in-game, as I was used to this feature from a previous server.


As for the Economy....
I am mixed about this one.  While it's true that Talon Coins keep the economy stable, I do not agree with the ease to obtain some of the "godly" items like some MVP cards.  As it stands, a good farmer can get one in a few days work.  I like the feeling of self-achievement that comes with a bit of difficulty, but that is dwindled a bit here since almost anyone can get those items in fairly short order.  This also leads to more emphasis on farming rather than gearing up for challenging MVPs and the like.  But the SQI items seem like a good replacement for that (never got that far though). 

The Talon Coin prices are amazingly stable as well, which are never too far off from 1mil.  I find that hard to believe with the amount of farming involved in this server.  I didn't think there was enough of a zeny sink to maintain the inflation, but somehow it works.


I have no qualms with the Server Performance either.  It is always up and while there are some occasional lag spikes, it's nothing to get in a roar about.  Sure, I died once or twice due to lag, but what RO server doesn't have it?  It's as good as they come at any rate.


One major issue I do have with this server is the availability of resetting and the possibility of cross-trans.  I am the type of person who feels like someone should earn their stripes with research and dedication...  As I stated before, I have a sense of pride and satisfaction in making a top-notch character through hard work and perseverance on a low-rate server.  But that feeling kind've fell through the floor here with mulligans being <5k zeny a pop.  It seems like the most efficient way to get a trans char you want is to make an ME priest or HW, etc and rush to rebirth so you can start your real trans char.  I would implore the GMs to make resetting require a little bit more of a conscious choice, and perhaps rethink allowing cross trans.

All in all though, this server was mostly fun as it has the greatest population out there to-date and plenty of side activities.  If you can get used to the rules and don't mind the differences, then this server will be a blast.  Unfortunately, I realized I can no longer keep up with those crazy summer kids who can farm all day long, and have decided to put my time with RO on hold for now.  Good luck!

[DeePee]

Hi there. Thanks for your honest review

It's unfortunate that you had a bad experience with some parts of the server. Let me try to reply to some of your concerns.

Tickets regarding donations can unfortunately take a few days. This is mainly because there's only a select few GMs who are able to handle tickets related to this (for good reason). If one of them is unavailable for a while, they can indeed take a little longer than usual tickets. There's sadly no way around that, but usually it gets done pretty quickly.

In terms of the !main chat, it can probably give a bad experience from time to time. There will always be bad apples around, but we try to manage it as much as we can, even with a population as big as we have now. Most of the time it seems to be a pretty fun place and punishments for foul language on !main are quite strict. So maybe you can give it another shot some time and hopefully you will have a better experience on !main.

While @mobinfo/@mi can indeed be quite useful, we have decided to not enable it. As we have a quite extensive MobDB on the panel, this is a good alternative. On top of that, that command means direct access to information about Event mobs, which is something we rather not like to have when just launching a new event.

We understand that the whole MVP card business isn't for everyone. It's partially something we inherited from our "mother" server, but at the same time we like giving everyone a fair chance to get these items themselves. On other servers, there'd be a few lucky people who find that rare MVP card and overpower everyone and their mother. On tRO, that will never be the case. Some of the cards have been changed/nerfed as well so that they aren't too game-breaking. Overall, we like to think that with the availability of them, it balances the game out pretty nicely.
And of course, if you don't wish to play with these cards, there's always Vanilla PvP/WoE where such cards are restricted. It's quite a popular mode in fact. Of course it does not affect PvM, but it will give you that good old RO feeling

Regarding the resets and cross-transing, I can't really comment on that. It's a matter of preference of course. However, I would like to say that we've been working on providing decent incentives for not cross-transing. For example, you can get Bronze Coins for doing the official jobchange quests (can be used for powerful rental weapons) and there are special Achievements to be obtained when reaching your Trans class without cross-transing.

Again, thank you for your review. We hope you find the place you like

[Boreas]

Eager to give myself an early boost, I went ahead and donated a small amount of money to get some starter gears.  But I accidentally messed up the donation claim (my own fault).  However, this ticket sat for 4 days before I finally had to approach GM after GM until I finally got up to Boreas... who as the OP already mentioned, is not the best at communicating with others.

Your fault, exactly, you got help, just took a little longer as I have a real life as well. Next time read the instructions and you won't run into this problem in the first place.

!main chat was kind of a miss for me...  The intention for having that feature was good, but in the end, I mostly found undesirables there.  Sarcasm, spoilers, and trolls run rampant every now and then.  Also, I personally have a hard time following the !main rules, as I feel they are too strict and the punishment too harsh (3 hour mute on attack and chat for first offense - you can still play other chars though and afk overnight).

Looking at your !main logs you are one of those trolls, thus your mute. You then PMed me on a different character, asking me to unmute you. Well, I rejected, so here we are I guess.


Good luck finding a server with no rules or GMs who don't enforce their rules. Byebye.

[Bebe]

This is not really a review since this is on someone's post , but my reply is mainly to the OP and BloodTyrant.

Personally, I think it's really nice to hear from other Talon RO players (me being a newbie myself xD )
so thank you, OP, and BloodTyrant! Also I get to see some of the GMs' reactions to the posts too hehehe

I think we should all have in mind that main chats will always have your typical trolls and can't be 100% relied on for help. However, to my experience, Talon RO has a lot of people willing to help you - even when I am lvling, I've had strangers come and help me xD

As for the rules, I think they are "strict" in order to avoid overflowing of trollish acts and such, hmm o-o? I know a lot of servers where GMs just don't care and let things go , which caused a lot of people being able to say whatever and anything they wanted - no censorship! my innocent eyes D:

So I think having rules that TalonRO has is pretty good then again... I'm the type who keeps to myself and does not participate in main chat and such xD I may be very biased on the rule part - sorry!!

Curious part on my own as for the population - no doubt I love seeing the population being 1000+ but are they all players? I thought most of the population was made out of the vendors.

That's the only thing that I'm curious about x3 but other than that TalonRO is awesome You like it, you stay - you don't like it, you go. It's something like that but mostly encouraged that you stay for a bit and play around

[DeePee]

Hi there Bebe,

We usually have around 500-550 vendors online nowadays. So our player peak from last week (1800+) consisted of around 540 vendors if I recall correctly. We actually had nearly 1300+ non-vendors online

[Bebe]

Oh! Thank you for the clarification :3

tbh I'm really happy you told me that so then I can convince my friends to come play xD a few kept making me doubt about the population, and I didn't have anything to back it up - except to just count all the vendors (tbh I really didn't wanna do lol)

well there's something to add on the "about TalonRO" part - helpful GMs and a large population

[BloodTyrant]

In terms of the !main chat, it can probably give a bad experience from time to time. There will always be bad apples around, but we try to manage it as much as we can, even with a population as big as we have now.

Ya, it simply just wasn't in my own personal tastes.  I think it was a bit of a culture shock to me that it was so clean, whereas every other online game it's usually a bit more aggressive and vulgar.  Change is good sometimes though =)  I do need to swear less.

While @mobinfo/@mi can indeed be quite useful, we have decided to not enable it. As we have a quite extensive MobDB on the panel, this is a good alternative. On top of that, that command means direct access to information about Event mobs, which is something we rather not like to have when just launching a new event.

I can live with that, it wasn't a game-breaker for me, just a convenience

On other servers, there'd be a few lucky people who find that rare MVP card and overpower everyone and their mother. On tRO, that will never be the case. Some of the cards have been changed/nerfed as well so that they aren't too game-breaking. Overall, we like to think that with the availability of them, it balances the game out pretty nicely.

It does keep the balance pretty well, but almost too well for my tastes.  I do have a bit of elitist in me, as I used to strive for top raiding guilds in WoW, etc.  I think it just felt to be too laid back where some goals were too easy to obtain, while others could be too difficult.  (there seemed to be a pretty big gap between 20-50mil items to me)

And of course, if you don't wish to play with these cards, there's always Vanilla PvP/WoE where such cards are restricted. It's quite a popular mode in fact. Of course it does not affect PvM, but it will give you that good old RO feeling

Not much of a pvp'er in me, which is why I didn't include it.  PvP just leads to complications and anger imo. I prefer to coordinate with others and accomplish goals.

Regarding the resets and cross-transing, I can't really comment on that. It's a matter of preference of course. However, I would like to say that we've been working on providing decent incentives for not cross-transing. For example, you can get Bronze Coins for doing the official jobchange quests (can be used for powerful rental weapons) and there are special Achievements to be obtained when reaching your Trans class without cross-transing.

This, unfortunately, was the major game-breaker for me.  But as you said it's a preference; perhaps you guys can poll on it in your forums if you haven't already =P



I would like to add on about Bebe's concern.  The population is fine, it's almost as good as it was in the RO glory years.  There's always people on almost every map.  Sometimes finding parties can be a bit difficult, but I hear the GMs are working on improving their party finder system.  I think this aspect will improve in the future.

[BloodTyrant]

Your fault, exactly, you got help, just took a little longer as I have a real life as well. Next time read the instructions and you won't run into this problem in the first place.

I do agree, it worked out in the end, thank you.  There didn't seem to be much drive from the other GMs to escalate though.

To reply in a more disrespectful manner (like you seem to enjoy doing).  It appears to me you have time to reply to forums posts every day, but not look at 3 or 4-day old support tickets?  I gave it 4 days of waiting before I got a bit impatient, sorry.  But no customer likes to be told to hold that long.  Just the nature of the beast, I would expect a bit of retaliation in those cases.  But this is just 1 case, so I shouldn't generalize on it.

Looking at your !main logs you are one of those trolls, thus your mute. You then PMed me on a different character, asking me to unmute you. Well, I rejected, so here we are I guess.

I believe this accusation to be false, as I did not flood main chat with the intent to flame or anger others.  But perhaps I'm a little hazy on the definition of this trolling term that's thrown around.  When I do swear, it's usually not directed at any individual.  "Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself".  I will admit coming to you seeking mercy was clearly not a wise choice, sorry about that.

Good luck finding a server with no rules or GMs who don't enforce their rules. Byebye.

Perhaps you should read my entire post before making these kind of comments.  I said I was quitting RO for time reasons.  I am not looking for another server, as this one is still one of the best.  I have a job like many other people, and since I do strive to be the best at everything I do, I simply dislike how I'm falling behind the other players (which I referred to as summer kids - I miss those years of my life).

Now to finish off in your own words "Byebye."  You did depreciate some of the enjoyment I had during TalonRO, and you don't seem to care that you drive some of your players away.

[Boreas]

Exactly, I don't care. A troll gone, nothing of value is lost. Bye man.

[BlackChurch]

i didn't play talon long either ..but long enough to notice how bad it is ....common sense will give you a some idea of how bad any server is

[DeePee]

TalonRO - where thousands of players without common sense waste their precious time.

[BlackChurch]

I am sure they do    but  my grief with talon is not the server itself ..but that is a pass issue anyways ..its great  that you all  support  a server you like/love...but not everyone is going to have to same experience as you ..so putting anyone down  for what their experiences are makes you just as useless as the server that person was a part of 

[KeithXFormerX7]

I haven't played this yet but, it seems cool and I saw an awkward moment post where his level is almost maxed out but got muted XD!!! /trolololol, got exploded xD

[Pebbl]

Boreas, I just made an account for your post 

I've played on TalonRO for quite some time now... and I still really enjoy every minute of it. Your server is awesome, hands down (~2k players will agree ).
But I really think, you as a GM should behave properly and answer other posts respectfully when they're trying to be respectful too!

I said I was quitting RO for time reasons.  I am not looking for another server, as this one is still one of the best.  I have a job like many other people, and since I do strive to be the best at everything I do, I simply dislike how I'm falling behind the other players (which I referred to as summer kids - I miss those years of my life).
[...] You did depreciate some of the enjoyment I had during TalonRO, and you don't seem to care that you drive some of your players away.

And here are you, showing your "respect" for players who actually played the game and enjoyed it just as much as I currently do...

Exactly, I don't care. A troll gone, nothing of value is lost. Bye man.

Boreas, I think you need to fix your attitude to others =(
This is partly criticism, but mostly an advice.

love y'all,
Dan.

[Boreas]

If I made a new topic about every player calling us names in support tickets, arguing over bans or wasting our time in some way I could probably fill this entire forum. Most if not all people who complain about my behavior either broke the rules or got into an argument with me about something they did wrong. It's easy to give negative feedback afterwards and I don't mind, considering that nobody reads this forum except for the usual trolls.

With that being said, you aren't any better Dan and we both know that. Thanks for registering an account to post here tho, the RMS trolls appreciate new footage.

*inb4moretrolling*

[Pebbl]

That's actually pretty funny Boreas, considering that I haven't gotten into an argument ONCE until now nor have I broken the rule once .
And in some way you're filling the entire forum Well, okay, you limit it to threads concerning TalonRO only.

With that being said, I think I am better than that, and I am pretty sure you know that aswell; I've been following this forum (and the talonro forum aswell), but I only post when I feel it is necessary to. And now I think it is necessary that you check your respect towards others who respect you - like I do.

It's easy to give negative feedback afterwards and I don't mind, considering that nobody reads this forum except for the usual trolls.
With that being said, you aren't any better Dan

So I'm just the usual troll for you..
I don't mind if you brand me a troll- but please think about what I said.

Well, that's that. I am playing TalonRO right now and I can highly recommend for anyone - I don't know why people say it's newbie unfriendly, I've had good experience (in parties, as a newbie, etc).
But if you really want to attract more players into joining your server I think you should (atleast try to) act (more) politely.

I even love Boreas,
Dan

[DeePee]

Make  not 

There are not enough words in this post.

[Boreas]

But if you really want to attract more players into joining your server I think you should (atleast try to) act (more) politely.

Because those ppl will read this topic? I highly doubt that. Thank you tho. 

[Thoth]

Also, if something is overpowered, but it's available to everyone, does it stop becoming overpowered?

not really. but excessive scarcity is a far greater poison to success than material imbalance. this is true for even The greatest MMORPG of them all...
(yes, its even more popular than WoW!)


indeed, the necessity of their "no mvp card" pvp rooms or whatnot proves a lack of item balance. I can't work up enthusiasm to play there because of this, regardless of its insane population.

[DeePee]

Or just a way for people to play a different type of game. People generally enjoy both.

[urboyfriend]

As much as i hate pre-renewal stagnation, this is actually a good review, im quite impressed how GM know how to control the game itself leaning to competitiveness and but at the same time, forgivable for new comers. I almost find it scary the economy is so much controlled it almost emulates the official one  .

this just means giving favor to the overall health of the game is the best approach to be a succesful server and the traffic follows over.

[silent]

I don't really RMS much. But I have to agree - GM Boreas needs an attitude adjustment. This is the first thread I've read on this subject, and the sore thumb that sticks out is this particular GM.

I've no doubt he's going to call me a troll or something. That seems his MO with dealing with criticism.

[Morien]

Wow I hate to say it but looks like I might only be interested in this server for sealing the same fate as ToSeeBeyond. Im quite sorry as I don't play this server that I am joining this thread but hmm Boreas you seem familiar have you been a Admin or GM before else where and what all servers have you played because you seem familiar?

That question having been asked I have worked for well hmmm over 20 servers in my time of almost 8 years playing now and man sorry to say but your the kind of GM that I hunt them down server to server to defame them and shame them and expose them for the temper tantrums they pull. Man when your in a position like your in the community and its view of you is the most important thing however you have to factor out people who yes maybe a little slow in the head or have issues with a language gap and handle things with a level head your coming at people in a way that if you directed yourself off the way you are here at me on the server Ive killed a few in my day finding loopholes to kill the economy or literally over ran the top guilds and held war consistently to drive the populace down or posted their dirty laundry.

Your truly not fit for the position when a GM verbally assaults the community or people in the identity of a GM it reflects the server as a pile of crap and poor decision making and easily shows that there's more yet to be found out. But in the words of full metal jacket 5 foot 9 I didn't know they stacked $*** that high. Crap is crap no matter how high its stack man be a good person to your community and they will be good back.

If you are incapable of taking advice from a person who loves the server or at least listening to him respect the person and think about your narrow minded behavior rather than being boorish.

All and all I don't expect to see Talon being around much longer if people keep seeing you act the way you are.

Edit: That being said I like what I have seen after looking into it. Just really man try and be more chill. I didn't mean to come across harsh up top but man you gotta watch the snappy kind of slap in the face like attitude towards people and you seem good on other things Ive seen just check that in your head you don't show off in the wrong way before you type. I typed what I did well because I kind of have a load of experience with this game and everything it entails and I am gonna be the first to admit I helped kill ToSeeBeyondRO its entire staff had 50+ stats higher than anyone was allowed to have on a few "legits" and always WoE'd for one castle they modified to give specific treasure so I fought them whooped them on their legits into the ground they recalled everyone (on the server) and I fought back through and decimated them with my apprentice breaker on rear flank but what the people didn't know was the GM admitted to creating the server to troll his own players and he duped gears off to friends so I found how he duped found a loophole made 32k of all of his customs and tossed em into the wind for everyone even the gears the gms hid for only them that they used to hold top 10 in pvp. Plus I worked for 20+ servers on staff and 35 on advising.

[Kendo]

Hi, am a player of TalonRO   
before i continue, I must first declare that i am not one of the troller ok  i don't  know what is troll to begin with 

Well, practically since most post here is regarding GMs, i'll be starting with this 1st. GMs are all reasonable friendly, since everyone got there own life and are human, we will all have our own things to deal with.
GM Bores - Well for some reason, i won't say is bad either. i can pretty much understand it, base on the other GM character, guess is somewhat needed. still thought, just in case, please don't luanch a Nuclear on someone who you just meet, still i pretty much guess that you won't (^_^)

As for the server, well is great, for everything from top to bottom i did say, i can imagine how much work and time have gone through, there will always be place to improve but i don't think need to worry about that. I did say i enjoy very very much during my play, since i like to explore.

Don't think server will be empty anytime soon thought, maybe like 5 years from now when everyone have a better game and gone bored of RO 
thought i did enjoy more on games that is time efficient, can enjoy right from the start (non clicking game will give me this feeling e.g. CBen)

this is a Private, there are donation, but you don't expect people take all the Nuke and don't get a chance to relax (or are you a player that want everyone to do things for you, and you are not even thanking them?)
I enjoy the game alot, but i must say most of the community especially on !main are "fakes dummies" that will bite you for nothing, you will always fine it especially in Morning Asia time (where GM are out), don't get too attached to it and follow the story than everything is fine 

Thought i must say 1 thing for sure, player who live close to western will enjoy the game at its best, but for player from mid-Asia will experience lag/ or slow packet transfer/reach which i did hope GMs could see if the server provider site have problem or not (don't think is my connection since i can play WoT without lag).
content seems is adding in carefully, such as MvP cards that can make player play skillfully ( keep balancing, prevent getting out of hands)

Overall, everything is good, except the slow packet reach/transfer  . GMs all good, you can't expect much when you are going to deal with people with those kind of mind set for years, normal people did seriously go insane.    
thought, since i can't stand the lag, i'll be going to WoT which is a game full of "useless scrap metal piece of junk" for a month or 2 and see if the lag got better  .
i did hope i can make real friends with you guys thought