RichRO

[Annihilate]

I will keep this as objective as humanly possible.

I was one of the first players in this server, I was even there on the server's opening day. I think the server had very big potential, especially on their voting system in the forums where players can vote for or against a proposed in-game modification. I enjoyed playing there for a while. I was even made a helper GM there, under the name GM Incinerate. I was tasked to do police work like enforcing the english-in-prontera-main-chat policy etc.

The server was officially opened on the first week of June, but in reality, it is still on beta test. The game had bugs, like stackable double casting for professors, server crashes rising from negative str input, etc. I felt then that it was understandable, as every server have their share of flaws.

I had passion for the game and believed in this server. Rules were enforced and anarchy was non-existent up to that point.

Then one day, a big wave of players came in, mostly a group that came from the Philippines' Valkyrie[official] server, and they named their woe Guild Outlaw. Im a filipino myself and I know that we have a talent for finding loopholes in systems. There was a rule that for purposes of minimising the monopoly of power, each guild can hold only up to 2 castles at a time.

The GM of the Outlaw guild [led by BabyMaker] easily captured 2 castles but still wanted more. What he did was to make another guild using his alt character [which he admitted publicly to be his] and took a castle. GM Rich [the owner/main admin] took the castle gave it back to the owners because according to him, this is a breach of rules and he jailed Babymaker for 1 day too. The wisdom behind this rule may be in question, but I am happy that rules are being enforced. You see, whether we like rules or not, its good to see that they get actually enforced so we can accordingly be guided as to how we should act or in this case, play.


Rich was doing a good job so far.

Then I helped the other guilds using my own resources[im just a level 40 GM so i dont have the capacity for abuse even if i wanted to]  so that they can catch up.

Then came siege day. Rich recently rolled back the database because some archbishop and ranger skill kept making the server crash. He forgot to buff emperium HP just like how it was pre-rollback. We assaulted Guild Morbid Castle only to be dissappointed because the emp was broken by a 1-man guild in less than 4 secs. Rich admitted he forgot to buff emp HP thats why. Anyhow we assaulted the castle and was able to break the emp with 3 seconds to spare before the end of WoE.

Then here comes morbid complaining in town about Rich allegedly extending woe by 3 minutes. As to whether thats true or not, its immaterial, whats important is that their big guild minus babymaker left the server and RichRO lost almost or even more than half of the pop'n.

So days went by with no controversies.

Then came one day when my guild had to help an allied castle in defense. We stood there with very little action for the 1st 1.5 hrs// [yes, woe here lasts for 2 hrs, everyday] then with 30 mins left, here comes a 3-man party consisting of Babymaker[Clown], Haseo[SinX], and Braska [High Wizard]. There were a bunch of us defending, a party of more than 10 with at least 2 sacrifice pallys, 1 acid demo Creator[me] and bard-dancer combo, and high wizzes. It is clear that they are not going to get thru the defense no matter what they do. They tried to assault the castle for at least 4 times with no success.

Then came the last2 minutes of WoE.

It turns out that GM Rich "forgot" to turn the party warper off. He has not yet corrected the party warper npc script at that moment. As Ive said, the game still is practically on beta test.

The 3-man party abused the party warper by using it to warp back whenever someone in their party dies, even straight to the emperium itself. So long as 1 of them stays alive, they can have a warp point to go straight back.

Then I complained to rich with 1 minute remaining. He was afk.

WoE ended and the sieging guild got the castle.

So what?

My allied Guildmaster and I complained to rich and we asked him about what happened. He said he forgot to turn the party warper off and it was his fault. We understood that but then there are some things that were left hanging:

1. The party warper was not supposed to be used in woe and yet the other guild abused it. This is a de facto bug so the offenders can be charged with bug exploitation.
2. One of the members of the offending party is Braska the high wizard which everyone knows to be Rich's alt character.
3. Braska himself abused the party warper.


Rich's Official Stand:

1. Braska was not being used by him at that moment.
2. All he can do for the offenders is  to warn them.
3. He cannot possibly penalize them because he doesnt wanna lose server population anymore [in light of the mass exodus by Guild Morbid Outlaw and Guild Wings of Fire]. So even if what they did was wrong, he will do nothing to punish these guys,


But then in light of all that has been mentioned in this post it made me ask a few questions:

1. Citing morbids woe case, he penalized morbid and jailed the offenders. This time he doesnt wish to. So it seems like rules can be broken if the server is desperate to keep its numbers.

2. If Rich wasnt controlling Braska, isnt the account owner himself responsible for his own character. Suppose I go around prontera cursing and scamming everyone and logs off, then a GM pms me and asks me to explain when i get back, can i just claim that someone else was using my account and so im free to go? Ridiculous.

3. If it was indeed GM Rich who was controlling Braska, then it shows that the same guy who should uphold rules is the same person to break them out of desperation.

So what the bottomline?

This server's administration lacks integrity. They make rules that differ in implementation even if the circumstances which arose are essentially identical. They have shown that they dont care if players cheat as long as they dont leave. Its a desperate case. My whole guild and the other allied guild chose to leave the server. Because even if we know that RO is just a game, we still know that we play to have fun, and it aint no fun when we are getting cheated by the same person that we were supposed to trust the most. Beta test or not, integrity is something that is to be practiced and displayed.



So, wanna try RichRO?

[LuTze]

I direct everyone to this post:

http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/report-dead-servers-here//another-server-is-paying-for-reports/0/

That should tell you all you need to know. This player was banned, has not played the server at all recently. And is a trouble-maker who seems to have an issue with our staff.

We have 45 players online average right now, and players seem happy with how we run the server.

Moderators please lock/delete this topic, I do not want any arguments starting.

[Annihilate]

I direct everyone to this post:

http://www.ratemyserver.net/forum/report-dead-servers-here//another-server-is-paying-for-reports/0/

That should tell you all you need to know. This player was banned, has not played the server at all recently.

--- i quit the server approx 1.5 weeks ago. I am not sure if that is recent or can be classified as prehistoric. as to that particular post, i admit that i lacked evidence, but understand that you were declared innocent just because you werent proven guilty. I have chosen to keep silent on that particular issue, as you can see in the whole length of my review. As far as I can see, I followed all the rules for server review posting in this board, so I do not see any good reason why they should delete this, other than the fact that you are disturbed.

And is a trouble-maker who seems to have an issue with our staff.

--- yes rich. this thread is trouble for you. and it is very clear that I have an issue with your staff, so the word "seems" is quite unnecessary to use.

We have 45 players online average right now, and players seem happy with how we run the server.

--- the current number of players in the server is not under attack, please read my post carefully. They are there because theyre happy. This is something i totally agree with. All the players who are still there are very happy indeed, because you have put a permanent ban on those who feel otherwise.

Moderators please lock/delete this topic, I do not want any arguments starting.

---  everyone has the right to have opinions and views which were different from yours. you need not argue anyway if this thread cause you a bout of indigestion. if all ive said is false, its up to the readers to verify it. But oh, i forgot, youve banned those who dont agree with you.




And another thing:

No Rich, I do not wish to bring your server down. I want those who actually play RO with passion and a  sincere yearning for clean gameplay have an idea of what theyre  goin into. I admit that I am dissapointed at your server or else I wouldnt write that novel of a post, but you see, i want people who are  thinking about transferring to your server be fully educated on their choices. These people will spend weeks and months playing in your server, and I wouldnt want them to be shortchanged, just like what happened to me.

Of course you own the server and you will do everything to save its reputation, i respect that, but more than your servers existence, I value people who value gameplay with value.

[LuTze]

I have delisted my server.

I no longer wish to have to fight for my servers reputation here every time I ban a player and they decide to post false reviews and false reports.

I do this so that the administrators can better protect worthwhile servers reputations against such events in future. Maybe losing my business as an advertiser will inspire them to come up with systems to prevent this.

For now my server is gaining enough traffic to not require the services of listing here.

Please remember I made my server to have fun, and that's exactly what my players and myself have, fun.
I do not wish for that to change, or to tread on eggshells because I might ban a player who happens to be literate and able to make up stuff in order to prevent new players discovering that same fun.
Anyone who does not enjoy my server is free to leave, but they are not free to break the rules by spamming advertisements for other servers and spreading rumours, this server is a source of many days of enjoyment for me and the other billpayers, it is not a scapegoat for other peoples amusement.

Thank you for your previous help, RMS staff.

Maybe we will do business again in future.

Kind regards,

Richard

[Annihilate]

I have delisted my server.

I no longer wish to have to fight for my servers reputation here every time I ban a player and they decide to post false reviews and false reports.

I do this so that the administrators can better protect worthwhile servers reputations against such events in future. Maybe losing my business as an advertiser will inspire them to come up with systems to prevent this.

For now my server is gaining enough traffic to not require the services of listing here.

Thank you for your previous help, RMS staff.

Maybe we will do business again in future.

Kind regards,

Richard

Richard.

This is something that I do not understand. You see, I am the kind of person who defends what I believe is right. It is interesting that you can give up due to nothing but 3 posts against your server, 2 of which are either deleted or locked. I understand that whatever I have posted is something that lacks much tangible evidence, and can only be proven if players experience it themselves. But to voluntarily delist in RMS? Cant you at least keep it lying there in the list so people can see the true score for themselves?

Oh well.


I hope you redefine the server administration's principles soon, RichRO needs it urgently.



With Undying Love and Affection,

RJ

[LuTze]

Richard.

This is something that I do not understand. You see, I am the kind of person who defends what I believe is right. It is interesting that you can give up due to nothing but 3 posts against your server, 2 of which are either deleted or locked. I understand that whatever I have posted is something that lacks much tangible evidence, and can only be proven if players experience it themselves. But to voluntarily delist in RMS? Cant you at least keep it lying there in the list so people can see the true score for themselves?

Oh well.


I hope you redefine the the server administration's principles so.



From Moscow with Love,

RJ

Our final score before delisting was ~90, putting us squarely in the front page of top scores. I did not delist for any other reason than it was preventing me and the other people working hard on our improvements from enjoying what they were working so hard to accomplish.

[Annihilate]

Our final score before delisting was ~90, putting us squarely in the front page of top scores. I did not delist for any other reason than it was preventing me and the other people working hard on our improvements from enjoying what they were working so hard to accomplish.

Hmm. Do I write so well, so much so that what you claim to be a lie may be incredibly believable to others? Please spare everyone of that parliamentary rhetoric rich. Insofar as I see, you have not given a single logical rebuttal on any of my claims except for a sweeping attack on my credibility. Just one request Richard: inasmuch as your Team is working hard on in-game improvements, could you at least get someone smart enough to reason with?


And as you have conceded, I am literate. Why would a literate (i.e. educated guy) waste his time over spreading gossip? Illogical.


The point here folks is that the server Administration [mostly Rich cos Shoj and Exia (the other 2 main GMs) are seldom around] do not have  enough will power to defend the servers reputation. If I were in Richard's place, I will make sure that my reputation stay intact by dealing with purported rumors in a professional and courageous way. It is only in this manner that the server's existing player base can be reassured that the server population will keep on growing or at least will have a growth rate that ensures a stable population size.

It is clear that Ratemyserver.net is the best avenue to get smart players, which is what most server owners long for. Consequently, I believe that it is RichRO's liaison's responsibility [i.e. Lutze aka Rich aka Richard] to defend their servers with valid arguments and not come up with that guilt-trip attempt to just leave and make it look like theyre the damsel in distress.


I expected something better than that RIchard. I am not provoking you. I am looking for an educated discussion about the matter at hand.

P.S.

This would not have gone as far as it did right now.We could have just talked about it in friendly terms within the server or at least in the forums, but you pre-emptively banned me from both, so this is what you get. Is this the price for thinking?

[Edward]

Our final score before delisting was ~90, putting us squarely in the front page of top scores. I did not delist for any other reason than it was preventing me and the other people working hard on our improvements from enjoying what they were working so hard to accomplish.

Hmm. Do I write so well, so much so that what you claim to be a lie may be incredibly believable to others? Please spare everyone of that parliamentary rhetoric rich. Insofar as I see, you have not given a single logical rebuttal on any of my claims except for a sweeping attack on my credibility. Just one request Richard: inasmuch as your Team is working hard on in-game improvements, could you at least get someone smart enough to reason with?


And as you have conceded, I am literate. Why would a literate (i.e. educated guy) waste his time over spreading gossip? Illogical.


The point here folks is that the server Administration [mostly Rich cos Shoj and Exia (the other 2 main GMs) are seldom around] do not have  enough will power to defend the servers reputation. If I were in Richard's place, I will make sure that my reputation stay intact by dealing with purported rumors in a professional and courageous way. It is only in this manner that the server's existing player base can be reassured that the server population will keep on growing or at least will have a growth rate that ensures a stable population size.

It is clear that Ratemyserver.net is the best avenue to get smart players, which is what most server owners long for. Consequently, I believe that it is RichRO's liaison's responsibility [i.e. Lutze aka Rich aka Richard] to defend their servers with valid arguments and not come up with that guilt-trip attempt to just leave and make it look like theyre the damsel in distress.


I expected something better than that RIchard. I am not provoking you. I am looking for an educated discussion about the matter at hand.

P.S.

This would not have gone as far as it did right now.We could have just talked about it in friendly terms within the server or at least in the forums, but you pre-emptively banned me from both, so this is what you get. Is this the price for thinking?

Well, I've read every post... but why are you being a complete idiot? LOL.

Every server makes mistakes here and there... and you're making it seem like RichRO's small mistake with the party warper signifies the experience of administration skills of Rich. Come on, get real man... even big servers like DreamerRO makes mistakes which are significantly worse than the party warper and they decide not to do anything to the people who took advantage cause it is THEIR own fault. At least Rich has the balls to admit fault and correct the problem.

Your attempts to degrade a pretty decent new server and a good-willed server admin is extremely embarrassing for you as a person. I quote...

"This server's administration lacks integrity. They have shown that they dont care if players cheat as long as they dont leave. Its a desperate case. My whole guild and the other allied guild chose to leave the server. Because even if we know that RO is just a game, we still know that we play to have fun, and it aint no fun when we are getting cheated by the same person that we were supposed to trust the most. Beta test or not, integrity is something that is to be practiced and displayed."

Not only does this not make sense... but it's pretty ridiculous. 1st of all, there'll be tons of WoE's in the future... if you're going to start crying about 1 WoE, you might as well leave. And also, how is Rich cheating you? That part just... confuses me the most. Just cause what? Cause he didn't jail or punish someone for taking advantage of a mistake that Rich made?

So say we have a teacher... by accident she gives you a 90 on a exam while you only earned an 80. So you don't tell her, and take advantage of her mistake. Then another student's going to tell the teacher that you were suppose to get an 80 instead of a 90. So... is she suppose to punish you and give you a 0 for her mistake? Or will she just correct the mistake and makes sure it doesn't happen again? I don't know... you decide.

You say you're educated... but I think you need to re-take elementary school; you're missing your logic and common sense. 1 more thing... you started this fight, not me. You've publicly presented your presence as an a******... now what? Did you expect to gain support, like how you posted without any evidence claiming that RichRO gave people items for reviewing?

Get real... get on everybody else's level on this forum before you start posting again. If you can't, go to http://ro-enhance.net/; you'll fit right in. 

[Annihilate]

Well, I've read every post... but why are you being a complete idiot? LOL.

....


 if you're going to start crying about 1 WoE, you might as well leave. And also, how is Rich cheating you? That part just... confuses me the most. Just cause what? Cause he didn't jail or punish someone for taking advantage of a mistake that Rich made?

This server is new as everybody knows. The best way to gauge its future is how it deals with it's "firsts". Rich cheated my guild and I because he did not treat similar abuse cases similiarly. We knew that there are bugs, I myself is the most ardent bug reporter in the whole server. I told my guild that I will personally ban them if they cheat before every WoE day. Now here comes a bunch who gets away with with it even if they were caught red-handed. This  thread is by no means an attempt to prevent people from going there. This is intended to let people know that just in case they go through a similar situation, their situation isnt an isolated case. To be perfectly honest, I would like to people to join RichRO and see it for themselves, and just in case it doesnt happen to them, then I'll even be happier because I successfully induced a good change.

So say we have a teacher... by accident she gives you a 90 on a exam while you only earned an 80. So you don't tell her, and take advantage of her mistake. Then another student's going to tell the teacher that you were suppose to get an 80 instead of a 90. So... is she suppose to punish you and give you a 0 for her mistake? Or will she just correct the mistake and makes sure it doesn't happen again? I don't know... you decide.

Dishonesty in any degree, says my teachers, is a bad thing, though I have no idea on how you were taught.

You say you're educated...

No. Lutze said that.

but I think you need to re-take elementary school; you're missing your logic and common sense. 1 more thing... you started this fight, not me. You've publicly presented your presence as an a******... now what? Did you expect to gain support, like how you posted without any evidence claiming that RichRO gave people items for reviewing?

Dude, cant you think of another word that you can use without having to use asterisks? It kind of kills your credibility.

Get real... get on everybody else's level on this forum before you start posting again. If you can't, go to http://ro-enhance.net/; you'll fit right in.  

nah, too busy.


Good day.
Posted on: Jul 12, 2009, 09:57 am*checks richRO RMS listing*


*gone*



Gee, theyre really gone. O.O

[Omi]

It is clear that Ratemyserver.net is the best avenue to get smart players

Just pointing this out, but jesus christ, have you ever read these forums?  You yourself give a very bad image as to why people don't advertise on RMS.

I understand that whatever I have posted is something that lacks much tangible evidence, and can only be proven if players experience it themselves.

You didn't provide any evidence, just lots of whining due to a misplaced bug, and even then, you suck really bad if you die to a high wiz, clown and sinx repeatedly warping back to the emp room, comeon dude, lrn2play.

My whole guild and the other allied guild chose to leave the server.

also hi descent

[Annihilate]

Just pointing this out, but jesus christ, have you ever read these forums?  You yourself give a very bad image as to why people don't advertise on RMS.

-- I respect your opinion, but if RMS s*cks so bad, why are you here?

You didn't provide any evidence

-- havent i mentioned that already? O.O

you suck really bad if you die to a high wiz, clown and sinx repeatedly warping back to the emp room, comeon dude, lrn2play.

--- err. Nothing in my post said that I died. Please read carefully. When the emperium gets destroyed, everybody is warped out. Dont you know that?

[Edward]

This server is new as everybody knows. The best way to gauge its future is how it deals with it's "firsts". Rich cheated my guild and I because he did not treat similar abuse cases similiarly. We knew that there are bugs, I myself is the most ardent bug reporter in the whole server. I told my guild that I will personally ban them if they cheat before every WoE day. Now here comes a bunch who gets away with with it even if they were caught red-handed. This  thread is by no means an attempt to prevent people from going there. This is intended to let people know that just in case they go through a similar situation, their situation isnt an isolated case. To be perfectly honest, I would like to people to join RichRO and see it for themselves, and just in case it doesnt happen to them, then I'll even be happier because I successfully induced a good change.

Again, read my post. By the way, are you a pinoy? You look like 1 in your display pic... need of a haircut? plastic surgery maybe?

Dishonesty in any degree, says my teachers, is a bad thing, though I have no idea on how you were taught.

Ohhh, so you ARE pinoy. Again, read my post... I never said 'go be dishonest'. What I DID say, was that if someone were not to tell the teacher about her mistake; what action would the teacher take? And I asked you to decide. By the way... is the Philippines a 3rd-world country yet? Cause they seem to get dumber everyday, LOL.

No. Lutze said that.

Yeah he did, but you did not disagree.

Dude, cant you think of another word that you can use without having to use asterisks? It kind of kills your credibility.

Dude, it's called a forum chat filter. But pinoys wouldn't know of that kind of stuff... am I right? LOL.

nah, too busy.

Doing what? Picking seeds from plants?

Final Note: I apologize to any pinoys who are actually doing good in life. And also to 'Annihilate', if you are not pinoy... you might as well change your nationality to pinoy.

[Descent]

Oh come on, not the time, OR the place to start throwing nationality in here.

Quit it. Goes for all sides.

[LiteX]

This server is new as everybody knows. The best way to gauge its future is how it deals with it's "firsts". Rich cheated my guild and I because he did not treat similar abuse cases similiarly. We knew that there are bugs, I myself is the most ardent bug reporter in the whole server. I told my guild that I will personally ban them if they cheat before every WoE day. Now here comes a bunch who gets away with with it even if they were caught red-handed. This  thread is by no means an attempt to prevent people from going there. This is intended to let people know that just in case they go through a similar situation, their situation isnt an isolated case. To be perfectly honest, I would like to people to join RichRO and see it for themselves, and just in case it doesnt happen to them, then I'll even be happier because I successfully induced a good change.

Again, read my post. By the way, are you a pinoy? You look like 1 in your display pic... need of a haircut? plastic surgery maybe?

Dishonesty in any degree, says my teachers, is a bad thing, though I have no idea on how you were taught.

Ohhh, so you ARE pinoy. Again, read my post... I never said 'go be dishonest'. What I DID say, was that if someone were not to tell the teacher about her mistake; what action would the teacher take? And I asked you to decide. By the way... is the Philippines a 3rd-world country yet? Cause they seem to get dumber everyday, LOL.

No. Lutze said that.

Yeah he did, but you did not disagree.

Dude, cant you think of another word that you can use without having to use asterisks? It kind of kills your credibility.

Dude, it's called a forum chat filter. But pinoys wouldn't know of that kind of stuff... am I right? LOL.

nah, too busy.

Doing what? Picking seeds from plants?

Final Note: I apologize to any pinoys who are actually doing good in life. And also to 'Annihilate', if you are not pinoy... you might as well change your nationality to pinoy.

Excuse me but, you do realize that racism is derogatory in all cultures, and learn some things:
3rd World countries stand for neutral countries during the cold war, and the phillipines was always a 3rd World Country, The filipino school system has been improving unlike some western's(Mainly the american one), and the seed picking one is very very very stupid, as the industry in the phillipines does not compose 100% of farming and some westerners DO that for a living, so please, get your goddamn facts right before start throwing s*** around...

Oh come on, not the time, OR the place to start throwing nationality in here.

Quit it. Goes for all sides.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MisplacedNationalism

[A92FL0163]

You guys are arguing with a person who throws out a bunch of flaming on every post and uses other people arguments to talk.