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Offline damnhue

Re: OriginsRO
« Reply #15 on: Nov 07, 2018, 04:41 AM »
I guess they do have one. Unfortunately i already started at another low rate server. I'll be migrating to this one once it closes down.

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Offline Zed

Re: OriginsRO
« Reply #16 on: Nov 08, 2018, 04:43 AM »
Administration - 4/10
The GMs dont realy listen to the community and there is a lot of unsolved problems. Client, Game and Balancewise also Community releated things.

I don't know what you mean by this but the GMs actually are working actively on fixing all issues they find. Given that the people who run this server also have full-time jobs and work on it purely for the love of the game, fixing small bugs does take time, sure. There isn't a single server out there that's perfect and without 'unsolved problems'. Even Nova, with its paid staff, have fixes regularly. Ease down on the drama.

PvE/MvP - 3/10
Normal MVP, easy to kill nothing real challenging for pvm players.
This is a so called "pvm focused" server. But the recent changes to EXP song have hit the pvm scene hard. And will continue to harm the scene. They made exp-song uneffectiv in how their exp system worked after 6 years. This is again why new players have a very high disadvantage. Not only did they remove every efficent MOTD (mob of the day wich gives 2x exp) monsters like high orcs, now they also made party lvling less effctive then solo lvling. This is still supposed to be a mmorpg and not a solo agi assassin game of a game where u leech your own char with your knight.
They did this changes without talking to the community and from most of the council members ive heard their voices have been ignored ( wich also indicates that the gms dont realy care about the community).
Soloing at kahos or leeching yourself with a knight at High orcs, bathorys , annolians is the best way now. Wich is kinda sad and takes the whole mmorpg feeling away.

Misinformation right here. Ever since the fix to the exp-stacking with regards to Kim, the server actually sees a lot more parties and is a lot more social, but I suppose the growth and benefit of the server didn't suit your negative view of everything, so why bother telling the truth right?

This is a 5x server, getting to 99 is not that hard if you actually play and not stand in one spot and cast one skill for hours on end.

WoE
Grown a lot since I joined the server, and I am prolly one of the biggest reasons for it.

WoE has been great, yeah, but unlikely it's all down to you.  /heh

Overall I have to say the recent changes made the server worse. The disadvantage for new players is increasing wich will slowly make partys disappear because its simply not worth it. And when new players start to realise how hard it is now , for now reason at all, they wont continue playing or more likly not even gonna join the server imo.

We've had a couple of people who joined the server in the last few days and they're loving it, especially when they're helped by people rather than constantly fed a narrative that paints the server as 'negative, negative, negative'. Maybe help them out and revisit how you start characters? Because it's still the best-run Classic server out there. There is no good alternative.

In conclusion, to everyone reading, take what this Kirchen says with a pinch of salt. If you've been on Origins, you'll know how divisive a figure he is. He may be a good player and understands the mechanics of the game well, sure, I'll give him that, but he's not the best person to judge the server given his ban and constant strifes with the GM team. 

Offline Queen Bee

Re: OriginsRO
« Reply #17 on: Nov 09, 2018, 07:25 AM »
People should probably not listen to Kirchen when it comes to stuff like oRO staff/community issues, considering he got his main account perma-banned over breaking ToS. Most of the things he says are based on salt and are heavily biased in his favour.

Also his idea of an "event" that he mentions earlier was to abuse a glitch/miss in oRO's anti-DB/summoning setup for towns to summon MVPs on merchant lines in Prontera.

Offline Kirchen

Re: OriginsRO
« Reply #18 on: Nov 09, 2018, 10:18 AM »
 /heh u are an idiot. Its not based on salt.

I am still playing there, because there is no better option.  But there are reasons why big and good guilds or people how know alot about the game stay away from it, eventhough i tried and still try to get people here.In fact you are just a salty hater who prolly got slapped in woe.

In addition to this topic, recently there were issues with people abusing grfs for mvps. And the reason none was punished was actually a gm whos task was it to deal with it, didnt know how to use @disguise and stuff to prove the grf thing. I think this shows a lot about the goal of the server but they are struggeling because they dont know how to take control of macro or grf abuse. I think most the gms just dont have much of experience in dealing with bigger communitys or cheats.
One of my members had to explain the way u check for grf and sprites changes etc to a GM.

At least they are improving /no1

Btw nice 1 post acc , just to troll in RMS
« Last Edit: Nov 09, 2018, 12:29 PM by Kirchen »

Offline Crowthen

Re: OriginsRO
« Reply #19 on: Nov 09, 2018, 12:45 PM »


Administration - 4/10
The GMs dont realy listen to the community and there is a lot of unsolved problems. Client, Game and Balancewise also Community releated things.


Can you elaborate more on this? Does it have something to do with the server running for 5+ years without adding transcendant classes, while original servers had it within 2 years?

Offline Queen Bee

Re: OriginsRO
« Reply #20 on: Nov 09, 2018, 01:04 PM »
I've had this account for a while, but if you want to pretend I made it over a year ago just to mess with you today then go ahead, I guess.

Kirchen is one of the most toxic players on OriginsRO at the moment and his guildies aren't much better. They troll and toss baseless accusations against other players into global chats both in game and on discord and then act hurt whenever someone calls them out on their s*** actions. He can pretend to be a good influence on the server, "bringing in players" and whatever, as much as he wants, at the end of the day he still got caught cheating, breaking ToS severely enough to warrant a perma-ban, something that very very rarely happens on OriginsRO. Why he's allowed to play on the server at all is a mystery to me. A perma-ban shouldn't just be a reset to progress by locking someone's account, it should actually be a personal ban.

Offline Kirchen

Re: OriginsRO
« Reply #21 on: Nov 09, 2018, 02:46 PM »
I think your most recent post already shows enough, what your goal with this is and why u never posted anything and why u post stuff now  /no1

Offline snakeside

Re: OriginsRO
« Reply #22 on: Nov 09, 2018, 08:15 PM »
You know a server is good when people who get perma-banned and others hacked clean of their storage continue to persevere and start all over again

Offline Kirchen

Re: OriginsRO
« Reply #23 on: Nov 10, 2018, 11:31 AM »
I dont think anyone who got permanent banned started on Oro again /hmm

Offline Herpderp

Re: OriginsRO
« Reply #24 on: Nov 10, 2018, 06:35 PM »
Can you elaborate more on this? Does it have something to do with the server running for 5+ years without adding transcendant classes, while original servers had it within 2 years?

I do not play Origins but as far as I have seen the admin team have their own ideas about how to do things and will not budge when community desires conflict with it. For example they insist on having trans trap mechanics, a major reason why no "competitive" guild bothers with the server. Another example is mathy's response of "don't like it don't play the server" when people laughed at Origins still having screenshake (even modern official servers have a command to remove it these days, so their QoL is literally worse than the notoriously bad officials)

My impression of Origins was that they just treat it as their personal Hercules testing grounds and don't really care about the population count. Clearly, this has its downsides but also its upsides, for example we can be confident that Haru will leave it online even when only 5 people play. So Stability becomes a major reason why people started joining in the first place, explaining the recent population growth (iRO exodus on top of that).

As for the "never releasing trans" thing, well, it's probably more of a good thing than people realize. Especially in regards to woe.  /ok

Offline Lace

Re: OriginsRO
« Reply #25 on: Nov 10, 2018, 09:53 PM »
/heh u are an idiot. Its not based on salt.

I am still playing there, because there is no better option.  But there are reasons why big and good guilds or people how know alot about the game stay away from it, eventhough i tried and still try to get people here.In fact you are just a salty hater who prolly got slapped in woe.

In addition to this topic, recently there were issues with people abusing grfs for mvps. And the reason none was punished was actually a gm whos task was it to deal with it, didnt know how to use @disguise and stuff to prove the grf thing. I think this shows a lot about the goal of the server but they are struggeling because they dont know how to take control of macro or grf abuse. I think most the gms just dont have much of experience in dealing with bigger communitys or cheats.
One of my members had to explain the way u check for grf and sprites changes etc to a GM.

At least they are improving /no1

Btw nice 1 post acc , just to troll in RMS

Hello! I'm a GM on OriginsRO (with the same name). This is obviously a snarky backhanded comment talking about me, so I thought I'd make an account to clarify a few things.

I'm the PR GM for origins. I don't do anything code-related, I don't host events, and I don't really even actively bot hunt. I'm the member of the staff who makes announcements when we need them, and keeps the staff informed about issues players are having. A lot of the staff members aren't people-people and have neither the time nor energy to talk to players on a personal level (because they're also really busy!!). That's fine. That's why I'm here! Players are always free to come to me about any issues they're having, or to bring problems (like bugs, bots, or grf abuse) to me, and then I forward their complaints to the relevant person who is most equipped to handle their specific problem. Which is sometimes still me, but usually not! I exist for the sake of transparency, which is something that the staff of Origins has struggled with in the past, but acknowledge is very important for a healthy, happy community, and I hope that we're starting to and will continue to do better in that department.

Anyway, enough about that!

I know the situation you're talking about and despite what you seem to think, I'm NOT the person handling that report. The only reason I had a dialogue with that player about the subject was because I happened to be online and they whispered me about it. That report is outside the scope of me, personally. In fact, that report was actively being discussed by the staff as a whole while that player was condescendingly lecturing me about how I should do this and that to prove they were using a modified grf (which I told the player). While his suggestions were appreciated, he was not aware of many details related to that report that rendered his suggestions irrelevant (details that the staff already knew about). Therefore, my response was essentially "thank you for your input", because I knew that it didn't really matter and I had no intention of discussing the specifics of a gameplay abuse report with a player.


I'm sorry you got caught cheating and you're upset that your account isn't going to get unbanned, and I'm sorry that you can't seem to get over it, but if you're going to snark about the staff, please make sure your snark is relevant to the people you're snarking about.

Have a lovely day, Kirchen~


Edit: I knew I forgot something! Regarding no way to disable screenshake: It's a limitation of our client (because it's really old). It'll be rectified with the new client we'll be getting "soon".
« Last Edit: Nov 10, 2018, 10:15 PM by Lace »

Offline Kirchen

Re: OriginsRO
« Reply #26 on: Nov 11, 2018, 06:59 AM »
Idk why you try to make this about my acc or me being salty about your answer.
Its simply not, its still a good server, with a lot of postiv sides. But also a lot of bad things, wich i adressed right a the started after 1 month in gitlab, forum and directly to gms.
This is just a neutral review. There ARE community related issues, GMs are not GOOD at listening to the community. but they try.

I dont f*** care about my acc. I still play on the server and i am still greatfull this server exists, because its the only stable one. Just because I try to acknowledge things wich arent perfect on the server because I know a lot of community stuff and woe things and pvm doesnt make me a salty person. The only reason why i argued in gitlab for months even before the ban and with gms directly is because i wanted the servers community to grow and adress bad things wich holds players back from joining while keeping the original goal ( wich is a classic experience without renewal) alive. Being able to use @disguise etc are basic things for a gm, even a event gm should know how to check for grfs. Thats just my opinion though.

And there are in fact bad changes wich will have a bad influence on pvm scene and new players. and there are in fact changes now and in the past wich gave old players enourms advantage about the new once in terms of effort they have to pay to be able to get basic gear and lvls