NovaRO>>>>>smRO

[kong]

i wish i was joking saying that sm is dying, but it really is and munbalance is killing it. it was doing so well too.

1) lunar needs to think real hard before implementing things that aren't bugfixes or official content

a) the referral system. most referral systems have limitations so one person couldn't exploit or gain extreme benefit from it. lunar didn't consider the factor that a popular streamer could exploit his referral system. if he made it so you can only gain a maximum of 1000 cash points from a single referral  (still 10% of what they spend, so if they buy 50000, you only get 1000) it would have been fine. with 1810 referrals mun would still be able to claim 1810000 cash points if every single of one of them bought at least 10000 cash points. it's not likely and that's still a lot, but it's still far more reasonable and better than 10% of EVERY DONATION made by all of his referrals FOREVER. just how much could you claim from that? hundreds of millions of cp? billions? it's the gift that never stops giving. there should be a limit. i understand that it's an old feature but it should have been taken care of the moment mun stepped in. in fact, it should been taken care of way before mun stepped in. the fact that it's not taken care of yet is very much a turn off to potential players who learn about mun's status as the server's local cashpoint god. before you argue that "mun deserves it because this and that", no, he doesn't. he deserves some amount for his efforts in getting referrals, not be the sole reservoir of cash points in the server that he didn't even personally pay for.

b) official kRO events. in my opinion events should always serve a purpose, as that's how it is in kRO and every online game to ever exist. whether it's to spread the seasonal cheer or address economic imbalances. events that have no ulterior motive need to be deliberated over very very carefully. it's foolish to implement a kRO event without thinking just because kRO has it.


2) if in the event that lunar cannot think for himself (happens extremely often), he should get the opinion of more than just mun

a) it might come as a secret to some smro players that lunar himself hangs out in munbalance's discord server and he sits there all day taking notes. he will claim that all input from his players are equally valued but i don't see lunar sitting in my discord server taking down notes for his server. he hardly spends as much time in his own discord server discussing issues, future content or plans with his playerbase.

b) it's no secret that mun and his guild is likely the first one to tackle any new content sm has. the issue here is whatever mun reports to his guild, stays with his guild (and lunar). if there is an exploit mun reports to lunar, lunar wouldn't let everyone in the server know about it before he fixes it as it is, in essence, an exploit that is a bad thing. this leads to several conclusions: one, mun and his guild can exploit as much as they can before the fix and get off scot free because they reported it. two, lunar will defend their actions by saying anyone else could have gone and did what they did (despite everyone else not even knowing about it because they were never informed about it because they believed whatever lunar said on the tin). fortessa pit is hard? oh i better not go and prepare my character. oh, turned out none of the monsters in the dungeon used elemental attacks and you can have a 100% neutral resist tank and blow out the entire dungeon? i didn't know that! oh but lunar already fixed it! shucks.


3) lunar needs to think of all his players when changing things, not just mun and his guild.

a) there used to be many many ways to generate zeny. now there are virtually none. if you look at the market everything expensive is dropping like flies in price. what used to be 200m+ is now 20-40m. is this the market settling down? more like everyone liquidating their assets before quitting.

b) some people just like to farm zeny or have the option of farming zeny. the proper way to counter increased zeny generation is to implement zeny sinks that never stop sinking zeny. there are already many effective zeny sinks in smro, but there can always be more especially when it comes to endgame or other gambling systems. if people feel like their access to zeny has been throttled severely, they will just not play because it is no longer fun.

c) mun has never had a zeny issue because he has literally infinite cp and can just vend moon coins to the unsuspecting populace. him and his guild wouldn't be able to share their thoughts properly on the state of the economy. for them, zeny is always easy to come by. but they don't farm. they abuse the thoughtless referral system and vend mooncoins. with the amount of cp mun gets he could fund his entire guild and their alts on several accounts for years.

Oh NovaRO? What the hell is that? Some server with a power tripping whimsical admin that is more inconsistent than sm's uptime and enjoys watching his players writhe in agony with +15 crimson weapons in 2019? Hard pass.

[Ariasqt]

Let's just say draft was cancelled last week

https://imgur.com/a/QrZiHTE

Btw, its amazing to see how toxic an admin can be. People complained about nova all the time but Lunar is worse and on a whole new level, oof

I don't see why everyone disliked the card event so much, as it stands plenty of players were getting MVPS at a fast rate from bloody branches, without the event cards like tao would still be rare, mind you but the price compared to non BB mvps like gioia would be absurd.
Official servers have stopped treating these cards sacred for a long time and I think as a server that claims to emulate kRO we should do the same.

Everyone disliked it and yet it was made a thing because you wanted it, Lunar kissing your donkey for that yt fame.
iRO sources have told me that smRO has gotten more MVP cards during that event than iRO in all of its years of uptime
Not to mention you cant know the rates of these card albums so lunar and you pulled random numbers out of their asses... high quality server 

[Lunar@SM]

I do believe you should maybe read inven more often since you have as much clue about RO as a homeless guy.

I never cared about how people see me, that's the difference. If you annoy me, I'll tell you that you annoy me.

I do believe your iRO sources can be found on the website that sells the duped cards there, right?
But you're right. We made roughly 1/5 of the duped MvP cards sold on a daily basis there.

[Ariasqt]

I do believe you should maybe read inven more often since you have as much clue about RO as a homeless guy.

I never cared about how people see me, that's the difference. If you annoy me, I'll tell you that you annoy me.

I do believe your iRO sources can be found on the website that sells the duped cards there, right?
But you're right. We made roughly 1/5 of the duped MvP cards sold on a daily basis there.

So where are your rates for the cards inside that album from? You literally have no idea about RO but bought a premade server from some rathena ad that's why it's crashing so much, no?  The only difference is that this rathena server has nova rejects on it following munbalance (just like you do)

[Lunar@SM]

The official rate is 1 / 2000 based on reviews of people using thousands of the exchanges.
But I made my rate higher because unlike your server, I care about people.

Holy s***, dude. You're literally making my day, thanks.

Of course, that's why we have features that not even rAthena nor hercules have. Because that ad was so good.

And f*** yes, that's why no other server has them either, because that ad only sold to me.

Oh my god, mate. Learn the game. Learn about iRO before comparing that to anything.

[Ariasqt]

The official rate is 1 / 2000 based on reviews of people using thousands of the exchanges.
But I made my rate higher because unlike your server, I care about people.

Holy s***, dude. You're literally making my day, thanks.

Of course, that's why we have features that not even rAthena nor hercules have. Because that ad was so good.

And f*** yes, that's why no other server has them either, because that ad only sold to me.

Oh my god, mate. Learn the game. Learn about iRO before comparing that to anything.

So let me get this straight you read 2 korean reviews saying the exchange rate is 1/2000 and decided the rate should be higher than that. Now after you implemented it there were literally DOZENS of high end MVP cards being brought into the server (because you care about your people and all of them really liked it as seen in the reviews) 

Yes Lunar, you have features other servers do not have and all of these features (+ the standard athena bugs you bought) make your server crash almost daily ... and you don't know how to fix them because as I said you literally have no idea about RO, coding or anything when it comes to administrating a server. That's exactly why the crashes have been going on for several months.

You implemented things based on munbalance feedback while your other non munbalance playerbase dislikes them and is being forgotten as pointed out by a few players here.

I literally found those custom sprites from overlord on rathena boards, the difference is that most non super high rate servers aren't cringe enough to actually implement them as they look so out of place.

Thanks, buddy.

Edit: you are literally a high-rate server at this point with how you are giving out free MVP cards, so I don't really understand why people could even compare that to novaRO it's a different kind of server

[Lunar@SM]

xD

Oh yeah babe, I read 2 korean reviews.
And you asked your iRO friends about how many MvP cards came out in the timespan the event ran.

Just because of how stupid you actually are, let me give you a piece of advice. Grow a brain <3, I love you dude.   

Yeah, poor Helheim has been crashing daily ask the compensation poring when he last given reward ;(

And oh yes, I implement things based on Munbalances feedback. Wait, do I? 
Because if I were, how come things never go the way Munbalance wants it? As he even said in his streams.

Sorry but all he did was, bringing the card event to my attention and Blank found it. And I trust Blank in regard to actual official things more than anything.

I honestly don't care if the spriter sold the sprites somewhere else. They're from another game and so are many other sprites, do you actually think I'd care what you think regarding the sprites? xD
I like them, so I implemented them, you don't

And let's see other official servers... oh yes they all have endless MvP cards. So what if people have MvP cards? Do you still feel like jerking off when you find a card in NovaRO? Or do you do that during the skype call to Nova to get the card? 
Yeah. I guess iRO is a high rate server too? Since they're giving out so many MvP cards. DOH... damn... right... they were duped, nothing iRO can do about that 
I guess we have to accept the fact that iRO has more MvP cards than you have actual brain cells 

[Ariasqt]

And oh yes, I implement things based on Munbalances feedback. Wait, do I? 
Because if I were, how come things never go the way Munbalance wants it? As he even said in his streams.

Sorry but all he did was, bringing the card event to my attention and Blank found it. And I trust Blank in regard to actual official things more than anything.

And let's see other official servers... oh yes they all have endless MvP cards. So what if people have MvP cards? Do you still feel like jerking off when you find a card in NovaRO? Or do you do that during the skype call to Nova to get the card? 
Yeah. I guess iRO is a high rate server too? Since they're giving out so many MvP cards. DOH... damn... right... they were duped, nothing iRO can do about that 
I guess we have to accept the fact that iRO has more MvP cards than you have actual brain cells 

Unlike munbalance I do not get any personal benefits in the server I'm playing on. Like increased item rates or personalized events or even infinite cash points, I'm not lucky like that. sorry 
Nobody in officials has as many MVP cards than the average player on smRO now   

But at this point, the discussion is over you're actually only spamming insults now, as an admin, proving my point that you have no idea how to administrate a server but as you said you don't care about how other people see you as long as you can satisfy your owner right? 

https://imgur.com/a/8FZyxWH

literally special treatment btw.

Another man's trash is another man's treasure I guess?

And telling me about a lack of brain cells while you as an admin present yourself publicly in such a toxic way, I wonder who has the peanut brain

Anyway, my point stands you have no RO, developer, administrator knowledge, no actual sources for the stuff you are implementing and don't know how to fix anything in your server all you do is please munbalance

[roin2k19]

can u flame each other in DMs and not spam my thread for that?

I dont know the arias guy but lunar should know better

[Lunar@SM]

xD

You're the best, darling.

Yeah didn't you know, Munbalance has 50% increased droprate on his main. So does half the server. Oh my GOD HOW?!?!?! 1x drop bonus, dear.
I want Infinite cashpoints too... That's why you can see in his most his streams that he barely keeps up with what he's doing and actually had to buy cashpoints himself because he ran out. But damn... how could this be?! He actually spent money?

HOLY DAMN, "Nobody in officials has as many MVP cards than the average player on smRO now" I literally died on the inside reading that, even a monkey would see on first glance that it's not true. I wonder what that makes you?

"I get Lunar to fix it", yeah he and xx other people can say the same thing.
A single PM in discord and I'll fix it if its a small bug, if it's a deeper bug, next patch.

But of course, you wouldn't know something like that. Because when you do encounter a bug, all you do is pickup your phone and start wanking.. Nova my buddy <heart heart heart> plsss fix this for me.
And guess what? Not everyones as lucky as you, some others have to wait for 2 years for Cart Cannon to get fixed. Ohhh wait. It's still not fixxed, guess they don't have your body, r? 

Another man's trash is another man's treasure? Well you'd know.


Oh no, you said I have a peanut brain. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY LIFE IS RUINED. HELPPPP. HES SO MEAN TO ME, I NEED TO ORDER KLEENEX.

My little dearest best friend in the whole wide world, Ariasqt. I honestly don't care how you or someone else views me.
People play the server of how the server is, not because of me.

But I guess in your case that's different r? You play cause of your soulmate.

Don't stop. Continue, I'm having fun, plus incase you haven't noticed. I'm using you to state all the things that are wrong and proving the points while disguising it in little love letters to you, because you can't comprehend things that go past your own self.

[Nithraniel]

What bugs me the most is how your server is still called up to this very day an authentic kRO experience. I've seen a few custom features that stand out a lot, including the exp/drop rates, the dual classes and the world bosses that seem to give a lot of bonuses to those who stand at the top in terms of dps. I always saw kRO as that grindy MMO where you need to spend a lot of time to "git gud", where the MvP cards are only awarded to the lucky ones or the true farmers, kinda like legendary artifacts in fantasy stories. The vision your server emits is of a much more casual game, not the grindy and hard kRO we hear a lot about. The MvP kRO event is made for its server, not yours where the drop rate of cards is much higher, especially in times where the drop rate is boosted for the "compensation" of crashes I believe ? I've seen screens of big stacks of Scaraba cards dropped in a few hours and people complaining about getting s***" MvP cards... Anybody should be happy to get one I believe, but it's been reduced to this useless junk state for players... And now you tell us the rate for MvP cards on this lottery is boosted ? While I believe it's a good thing for more casual players, it gets farther and farther from the "authentic kRO experience" and closer to a high rate experience.

[kong]

"everyone is dumb except for me" - lunar 2017

"heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyllo lunar?" - munbalance 2019

"e-everyone is d-dumb except for m-munnie-sempai who i owe all my success to..... d-don't you guys dare bully him!" - lunar 2019

you used to have integrity and a vision. when did you sell out to become munbalance's butt slave? oh yeah it was roughly around the start of 2019. just keep telling yourself that mun knows best and he'll pull through once more and revive your rotting server (again).

[Ariasqt]

But of course, you wouldn't know something like that. Because when you do encounter a bug, all you do is pickup your phone and start wanking.. Nova my buddy <heart heart heart> plsss fix this for me.
And guess what? Not everyones as lucky as you, some others have to wait for 2 years for Cart Cannon to get fixed. Ohhh wait. It's still not fixxed, guess they don't have your body, r? 

That's why I have a few dozen bug reports written and well documented on the forums and don't get anything fixed unless it's public for everybody 

It's not that cart cannon wasn't fixed because I played it but I played it because it wasn't fixed and anyone could do so, so how is that in ANY WAY directed towards me? 

For the rest of your messages... your head alright bruh?

[Lunar@SM]

@Nithraniel

No, you're mistaking actually.
It's not the "grindy" server you hear about. It's the cash-server you hear about. There is no actual fairness in it and unless your wallet permits it, you can't get anywhere there.
Which is why it's kRO-like meaning it follows its contents, items and such.

But the implementation of the cash-part is done in a different way to allow everyone to get it.

Plus it's a 100x server, not a 1x. If you want slow kRO experience, play kRO.

@Ariasqt
So basically you're stating that you're enjoying an exploitable skill that wasn't fixed yet because you lack the braincells to play something that isn't bugged, but my rAthena ad bought server has it fixed. I guess I paid extra much for that.

Getting out of things to say? Not a problem, I'm here for you.

@kong
I'd rather have the server die out then be someone's butt slave as you're saying. Munbalance is playing here because he enjoys the way the server is and that he actually have gears that match the year and not a refine system from 2007.

Yeah, don't bully my m-munnie-sempai. You're awesome too actually, I'm starting to like you.
But you probably should find a different server because based on what you're writing here you're seriously butthurt and you can't seem to find that pacifier you lost in thanatos tower.

[Ariasqt]

@Ariasqt
So basically you're stating that you're enjoying an exploitable skill that wasn't fixed yet because you lack the braincells to play something that isn't bugged, but my rAthena ad bought server has it fixed. I guess I paid extra much for that.

Getting out of things to say? Not a problem, I'm here for you.

@kong
I'd rather have the server die out then be someone's butt slave as you're saying. Munbalance is playing here because he enjoys the way the server is and that he actually have gears that match the year and not a refine system from 2007.

Yeah, don't bully my m-munnie-sempai. You're awesome too actually, I'm starting to like you.
But you probably should find a different server because based on what you're writing here you're seriously butthurt and you can't seem to find that pacifier you lost in thanatos tower.

And now both things are happening you're munbalances butt slave AND your server is dying because of your brilliant decisions

At this point, you're becoming more and more like Lai, yikes.