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Descent

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NoobFuryRO Review.
« on: Aug 02, 2009, 07:02 pm »
NoobFury RO - Server with good potential, even if it IS for "Noobs".

Having owned and played Lowrates and Midrates, I do find it strange how I ended up on NFRO. Apparently the drama of months past is nonexistent, with the atmosphere focused more on players as opposed to the GM's inner workings and scandals of threads that have preceded this review.

In all honesty, the first thing people think of when they see the name is, "Great...another donation hellhole...." Not necessarily.

NoobFuryRO is one of the rare HRs that seem to attempt to cater to everybody, regardless of whether you're rich or poor, donator or non-donator. Of course, there IS that "donor's edge" that happens when you flat out purchase gear, but does that mean you're sold up the river? Not a chance.

Seeing as I have rediscovered my old GameFAQs reviews, might as well give it a good breakdown.

GAMEPLAY - 5/10
Worthy effort to keep all engaged, but not without its flaws...

Leveling is speedy, as with any HR above 500x, drop rate may seem a bit nonsensical for the "hardcore" LR/MR elitist, but for the casual gamers you find on NFRO, it's just right. The "Rebirth" system seen on other servers is available here, where you can reset your character back to scratch and hit up 255 all over again, with a special reward for those who go the distance to Rebirth MAX. A system like this, even WITH the added stats, is still a wonderful thing, as it will keep players motivated to push themselves to improve their character, and completely extends the end-game scenario. Guild Competition seems heated, and Guilds are rather large. That's the good.

The bad?

Class Balance can be nearly horrendous. High Wizards seem to be the dominating factor, with GTB only halving damage and MDEF-Gear based equipment sets are negated by the fact that nearly everybody and their mother's dog has a High Wizard Card from Lighthalzen Dungeon 03. Champions also rule the day and reap the spoils of PVP and WoE, as Skill Delay and Cooldown is purely based upon the "DEX <--> ASPD" system that most HRs are running nowadays, leaving classes like Lord Knights, Paladins, and Snipers to get demolished by Creators, High Wizards, and Professors. Obviously not very well thought out for the long run, but hey...it could change, right?

Another bad? The economy........

...is crap. Even EShadowRO back in its day didn't have prices like this. The market is pretty much filled with nonsense, such as certain MVP Cards being relatively cheap(Nice to know I can buy a GTB for 90M), yet certain pieces of gear going for astronomical prices(Why, oh WHY did I see Valk Shoes going for 780M?!). It's almost as if every merchant sits there and thinks "Hey...what can I do that would make the least amount of sense and have other sensible players want to blow their brains out?". The inflation and deflation changes faster than you can keep up. Not exactly a good thing, but with the ridiculous saturation of the market between MVP Cards, God Items, et cetera, there's nothing short of a wipe that could change it.

SERVER - 7/10
Strange hiccup every time Devil's Square starts, but other than that...

Haven't really hit any Downtime yet, server doesn't seem to be prone to Lag spikes, if they could just fix that incredibly annoying 30-second hiccup that NFRO goes through everytime Devil's Square runs, this score would be MUCH higher. Not much else to say than that. Patcher runs smooth as silk(But PLEASE, PLEASE do something about Caramelldansen playing EVERY TIME I load the goddamn thing, guys!!), no problems with logging in or switching characters. Relatively solid.

COMMUNITY - 9/10
They weren't kidding when they said "The most friendly server"...

My first day, I was welcomed with open arms to the guild "Revelations". The forum users are just as nice, and even the randoms you find hanging around the Gold Room and on the leveling maps are so damned pleasant, I actually had to think about whether I really was playing RO or not. Even for a PK server, there seems to be a mutual respect with regards to leveling, and nobody really preys on the newer players or lower leveled characters. I DID get PK'd once by a High Wizard, who immediately came over and Ressed me, then apologized about his random Storm Gust.

As for Events, there's Devil's Square daily, and there is also a "Super Rates" event, that lasts an hour and boosts the rates by a small percentage. There is also Poring Ball. However, aside from the auto-events, there's not really a GM in sight(at least the times that I've been on so far) to actually RUN events.

Oh, and the community is about 50/50 in the language department. You're either speaking English or Tagalog, but it seems that the players from the Philippines are quite well-versed in both languages, meaning you shouldn't have any communication problems with them.

GAME MASTERS - 5/10
Lack of in-game activity seen is the only reason this score is so low...

I really have yet to see a GM in-game at ALL. However, they are very helpful on forums and I have yet to hear a bad thing about the Staff from players while logged in. There's a "TO DO" List as a thread where Kitsune keeps players updated on possible future changes to the server, which is a nice touch, as it doesn't create surprises.

Still, the lack of in-game activity really drops this score down, as you can't exactly gauge GMs without interacting with them.

Overall, is NoobFuryRO worth it?


It's not a bad server by any means. There will be some who can embrace the gameplay and will love every second. There will be some who will be completely turned off and appalled by the Customs List and the Skill Cooldown schematics. There will also be those like myself, who are sitting on the middle of the fence. It has potential to go beyond what it is now at 130+ players if a few changes were put in place, but aside from those, a pretty worthy effort from Kitsune and company.

Besides...if it's enough to have my gaming time split between F1 and RO, it's got to be worth something.

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NoobFuryRO Review.
« on: Aug 02, 2009, 07:02 pm »

Offline Syntax

Re: NoobFuryRO Review.
« Reply #1 on: Aug 02, 2009, 07:15 pm »
I'll have to disagree with you on the class balance.  Although GTB only reduce w/e w/e % of magic its still very useful vs magic classes.  I've played many High Rates with max level of 255 and have GTB reduced to as low as 30% and there was never a problem with magic classes dominating PvP or WoE.  You also have to take into account that there are resistance and element armors to reduce magic damage compared to physical damage.

Champions reigning over PvP on a 255?  Since when?  I know that they're overpopulated along with Assassin Cross on high rates but the way you describe Champions on Noob Fury make it sound like there's no Deviling or Ghostring card.  Lol...Paladin and Lord Knight getting demolished by Creators?  Just because their usually build include high VIT doesn't mean they'll die to Creators.  There are just too many reductions on physical damage making Creators and Champions below average classes on a High Rate.


Also, if you were thinking whether you were really playing RO or not you should be aware that GMs don't have to log into the game at all.  Taken from official servers.


Everything else is debatable but seems true.

Descent

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Re: NoobFuryRO Review.
« Reply #2 on: Aug 02, 2009, 07:27 pm »
I'll have to disagree with you on the class balance.  Although GTB only reduce w/e w/e % of magic its still very useful vs magic classes.  I've played many High Rates with max level of 255 and have GTB reduced to as low as 30% and there was never a problem with magic classes dominating PvP or WoE.  You also have to take into account that there are resistance and element armors to reduce magic damage compared to physical damage.

Sure. However, they can change their element usage at lightspeed with the lack of Casting Delay, and I think you forgot the part about "Everybody and their mother's dog has a High Wiz Card", rendering MDEF completely useless(which is sad, I was so looking forward to my 95 MDEF LK again). Of course, you've played many HRs, have you set foot in PVP on NFRO? Not calling you out, just simply asking.

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Champions reigning over PvP on a 255?  Since when?  I know that they're overpopulated along with Assassin Cross on high rates but the way you describe Champions on Noob Fury make it sound like there's no Deviling or Ghostring card.

Oh, there are. Not a lot of good it will do you, considering that Asura is the least effective way to kill on a HR that has DEX <--> ASPD = Zero Cooldown. You can easily get locked by people who know how to "sync" skill tagging and clicking very well(TSS/FO Streaming Champs can actually use their skills at max ASPD if the right person is in control of them).

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Lol...Paladin and Lord Knight getting demolished by Creators?  Just because their usually build include high VIT doesn't mean they'll die to Creators.  There are just too many reductions on physical damage making Creators and Champions below average classes on a High Rate.

Please don't insult my experience, Syntax. Reductions? Even with FCP, you can get Acid-Locked at the speed they can cast at. Sure, you can Charge Attack your way out. Until they lock you down again. They cast far too fast to put up a good defence, and just as you can reduce them, they can reduce you.


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Also, if you were thinking whether you were really playing RO or not you should be aware that GMs don't have to log into the game at all.  Taken from official servers.

Last I checked, NFRO isn't an official server.

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Everything else is debatable but seems true.

I always enjoy a good debate. Thanks for replying. :P

Offline Syntax

Re: NoobFuryRO Review.
« Reply #3 on: Aug 02, 2009, 07:44 pm »
Sure. However, they can change their element usage at lightspeed with the lack of Casting Delay, and I think you forgot the part about "Everybody and their mother's dog has a High Wiz Card", rendering MDEF completely useless(which is sad, I was so looking forward to my 95 MDEF LK again). Of course, you've played many HRs, have you set foot in PVP on NFRO? Not calling you out, just simply asking.

I can change my armors/garments/headgears at lightspeed.  I usually come into pvp with full 3 hotkey bars of equipments which include fire water, earth, wind, shadow, holy, and poison resist.  I'm not saying everyone is a clone of me and this is 100% doable for all but practice playing on a server where it takes effort and you'll get better without a doubt.

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Oh, there are. Not a lot of good it will do you, considering that Asura is the least effective way to kill on a HR that has DEX <--> ASPD = Zero Cooldown. You can easily get locked by people who know how to "sync" skill tagging and clicking very well(TSS/FO Streaming Champs can actually use their skills at max ASPD if the right person is in control of them).

You mean asura/TSS dance?  That's not even how you do it on a high rate though...First off, you would be using asura + hit + asura over and over again with zen and fury.  This would put you really up close to your opponent so getting asura'd shouldn't be a problem.  TSS...?  You sure about this?  I know TSS are strong and is an alternative but really...?  You're going to try to debate about how Champion are good on Noob Fury with TSS?

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Please don't insult my experience, Syntax. Reductions? Even with FCP, you can get Acid-Locked at the speed they can cast at. Sure, you can Charge Attack your way out. Until they lock you down again. They cast far too fast to put up a good defence, and just as you can reduce them, they can reduce you.

Please don't insult MY experience, Descent.  I've been playing RO for 9 years and this is the first time someone still think Creators can kill Paladins and Lord Knights on a 255 server after I've explained.  You just don't know the right build for paladins on these servers.  Try going shield chain or firebolt/icebolt build for LK's and Paladins.  It should work to a certain extent and should not be used to kill all classes.  Or go with the usual Holy Cross + Sacrifice build...

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Last I checked, NFRO isn't an official server.

Nobody said Noob Fury RO was an official server.  I was replying to your implication that you thought you were playing RO in the community section first paragraph (assuming playing playing RO is playing official servers)

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I always enjoy a good debate. Thanks for replying. :P

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I forgot to mention that ASPD does NOT reduce cooldown, it simply reduce the casting animation.  If I was a jerk I would be telling you to go learn your RO mechanics but I'm just putting it out there to let you know.
« Last Edit: Aug 02, 2009, 07:50 pm by Syntax »

Descent

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Re: NoobFuryRO Review.
« Reply #4 on: Aug 02, 2009, 08:06 pm »
Please don't insult MY experience, Descent.  I've been playing RO for 9 years and this is the first time someone still think Creators can kill Paladins and Lord Knights on a 255 server after I've explained.  You just don't know the right build for paladins on these servers.  Try going shield chain or firebolt/icebolt build for LK's and Paladins.  It should work to a certain extent and should not be used to kill all classes.  Or go with the usual Holy Cross + Sacrifice build...


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*Edit*
I forgot to mention that ASPD does NOT reduce cooldown, it simply reduce the casting animation.  If I was a jerk I would be telling you to go learn your RO mechanics but I'm just putting it out there to let you know.

Well golly gee, sure showed me there.

Offline Syntax

Re: NoobFuryRO Review.
« Reply #5 on: Aug 02, 2009, 08:11 pm »
Lol sorry.  No bad attentions there.

Descent

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Re: NoobFuryRO Review.
« Reply #6 on: Aug 02, 2009, 08:13 pm »
Lol sorry.  No bad attentions there.

Probably just the tone. No worries.

If you do in fact play NFRO, drop me a PM sometime. Always good to know another person there.

Offline Syntax

Re: NoobFuryRO Review.
« Reply #7 on: Aug 02, 2009, 08:18 pm »
Sorry but I'm not playing any server atm.  I'm just server hopping to try out potential servers and reviewing em whenever possible.  All servers are generic to me nowadays...at least add one feature that will make your server stand out from the rest and I'll play T_T.  Not saying every server should cater to my needs but c'mon...

Offline lThorl

Re: NoobFuryRO Review.
« Reply #8 on: Aug 05, 2009, 04:46 pm »
Syntax, Debating and or arguing RO fact's is simply pointless, In the end only the best players will prevail!
I'd say your better off joining that server and kicking the snot out of the debaters... That once and for all proves that you are the most knowledgeable RO person out of the debaters in this topic.    

That's what i do!  ;D
« Last Edit: Aug 05, 2009, 04:48 pm by lThorl »

Descent

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Re: NoobFuryRO Review.
« Reply #9 on: Aug 05, 2009, 08:44 pm »
Syntax, Debating and or arguing RO fact's is simply pointless, In the end only the best players will prevail!
I'd say your better off joining that server and kicking the snot out of the debaters... That once and for all proves that you are the most knowledgeable RO person out of the debaters in this topic.    

That's what i do!  ;D

Lol, did you even read this thread? He doesn't even play NFRO, for starters, so his knowledge of the system that would be in place there would be zero.

As for you...

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just looking for a server that did not change asura because of how fast it can be spamed talking about balance when you know nerfing it in the first place is imbalanced because if you had these HIGH stats in IRO you would probably be able to spam it on there, And gravity is the one that created the game, So by that it's already balanced with out the nerfs, Nerfing makes the game so boreing i jus hate servers with large nerfs because the player is to weak to adress the situastion at hand, So if some one is using some thing that is cheap, There should be a cheap way around it you gotta find it, So i just wish i can find a server with players that think just like that OUT OF THE BOX any ways, I think asura spaming is a show of your mighty fingers showing the world of ragnarok how fast your fingers are making them fingers just as dangerous as some gears a sin x will cook up....

Offline shatterX

Re: NoobFuryRO Review.
« Reply #10 on: Aug 05, 2009, 09:57 pm »
i played nfro for three years before i left. i tell you guys why - i finally had enough with the donors and the crazy inflation.

Donations:
always was the problem since the server first started. donors with like "+50% dmg on demi-humans" or "+40 str/dex/int/vit" items can easily beat players without donations. extremely high dmg is not the only problem, its also the effects those donation items carry. "enable use of storm gust"- you be the judge.

i became strong in this server only through patience, by saving up zeny/mvp cards to buy donation items. this was difficult since not only GMs discourage trading donation items, they also made mvp cards common. And then GMs wiped all the zeny and donation items (but allowing original buyers to reclaim them), claiming there was a dupe going on.

basically, donor players who started their first day of NFRO with $100-$500 donation items (not uncommon) are able to beat players who were with the server for a long time. plus the lack of respect that comes with that in pvp rooms. This is the main reason for me to leave.

The only thing good that came out of this is the almost perfect class balancing. NOBODY ever complained about OP and nerfed classes. The idea is, if every class is powerful to a point of a pvp match lasting only 10-20 seconds, then there wont be problems. A lesson for all the high rate private servers.

disaster economy:
biggest mistake GM made was adding a chance of summoning random mvps from "dead branches". that basically allowed flooding of mvp cards in this server (1% drop rate). cards like tao and VR werent that rare anymore. even thanatos card became common. But they still sell for millions of zeny. Why? because donation items are usually priced millions of zeny, and since donation items are so important, the economy follows them as well.

On a positive note:
You won't see Kitsune around often, since he's always busy making new scripts. innovation definitely defines this server. Devil square, fair/challenging rebirth system. etc. all makes this server interesting.

although i used to love this server and defend its honor, after much disappointment, i don't recommend playing NFRO.

p.s. my ign before was hyper(killer). i joined around same time as Kira, ignius, and others. if you play the server for long time you should have heard of us, cause we did "own" the server and its woe/pvp for a year or two =)
« Last Edit: Aug 05, 2009, 10:07 pm by shatterX »
now at poison ro

Offline phufool

Re: NoobFuryRO Review.
« Reply #11 on: Aug 06, 2009, 08:58 am »
Hi Descent, may I know what your character names are? This is Broodstar and I was surprised that a NFRO review was made recently, so hi :)

Descent

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Re: NoobFuryRO Review.
« Reply #12 on: Aug 06, 2009, 11:42 am »
Hi Descent, may I know what your character names are? This is Broodstar and I was surprised that a NFRO review was made recently, so hi :)

"Kisarah Westfield", I'm in the Guild named "Revelation". Working towards my first Rebirth.

shatterX, I'm with some newer players, but I will have to ask around about you guys.

If you ever see me in-game, say hi.  ;)

Offline Syntax

Re: NoobFuryRO Review.
« Reply #13 on: Aug 06, 2009, 02:52 pm »
Uh, how does their donation work?  

http://www.noobfuryro.com/index.php?file=Page&name=serverinfo

Monthly cost bar
"We still need 620$"

What happens if they don't have enough support?  Can anyone clarify me on this?  I go "eh" when I see servers that need that much donation money monthly...

Offline SilverStream~

Re: NoobFuryRO Review.
« Reply #14 on: Aug 06, 2009, 03:00 pm »
Ah, this server has a emergency fund like most servers that run on donations have.

If they don't get enough donations to support the next month(s), they use the emergency fund.  Some months it's more income, some it's less.  When it's more it usually goes there.
And if the population is low, that's normally how things work as well.

Mostly mainstream what every server do.
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