NiktoutRO

Started by Sentaku, Sep 10, 2006, 03:41 PM

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Sentaku

Alright, since I couldn't fit it all in on my review, and the owner replied quite violently to my review, I'd like to give a little more in depth review.

NiktoutRO was my first private server. The community was nice, but the only thing that wasn't was the GM. He would practically flame anyone who had a question, and most of the time, tell them that it was there fault, and that he wouldn't help them. This actually caused quite a few of the people to leave. On the old forums, I was well known, and as the 2nd top poster I would usually help out any of those informed by him, that it was "their fault". To me, just because they might have done something to cause the problem, doesn't mean they should be left without help.

Next, I later went on the low rate, due to GM inactiveness on the HR. During this time, I discovered the GM owned his own guild, Mystic Elves. I was in their enemy guild, From Hell. During WoE we discovered Nik was most likely cheating, using his GM powers. It took about 8 well skilled players to take him down, and he would also use RUWACH during WoE, as a sinx, which you know isn't possible, since there is only the horong card for sight. He and many of his guild members also had Ice Picks, which on a, let me think... 15x drop, is still hard to get, but for 10 people? How did they get this? I am now friends with one of the people who was in his guild, and he himself told me that Nik gave some of them Ice Picks and cards. And later on, he called me a "Backstabber" to my face, because a friend of mine was in his guild, so lol, for some INSANE reason, he seemed to believe that person was me, even though I was even training with that person when he saw us together. In Lhz, he would also DB our parties, almost to the point where Lhz was un-trainable.

Some of us believed LR needed more GMs, so we set up a poll about it. It was a suggestion. But some of us got warned for it, and even banned. The reasons Nik put down for my warnings were "jfk" and "is annoying" my other friend got similar warnings. I was eventually banned from the forum. I created a new account, mainly just to see what was going on. But then he banned SEVERAL other friends of mine for absolutely nothing, just voicing their opinions in a calm and intelligent manner. So I of course, got fed up with the GM, and made a goodbye topic, then a seperate topic to Nik. He deleted EVERY ONE of my friends Goodbye topics, so I'm not surprised he deleted mine, then proceeded to ban me.

It wasn't because of harassement, nor botting, nor anything else. The only reason was because I voiced my opinion on POLLS, many of which I did not even make.

Today I went to look at my review. He replied to it in INSULTING manner, which I just cannot believe. I actually voiced my review a lot more calmly than my fellow friends. I can't believe, that I was insulted in his reply, blaming my 46 review as me being BANNED.

-End of total review-

Comment if you'd like, and by the way, I suggest you do not try this server out, the Admin is truly un-friendly, with no activity what-so-ever.

Toztie

well thats even worse then lro....... :-\
i suggest that yc makes a comment on the main site, under nikout ro with this forum link.
futhermore, ratemyserver will always a free shoulder for you to cry out on! :P :P

Sentaku

Thanks Toztie it's encouraging to know this topic was noticed xD

I was extremely displeased that the server owner had replied to my review with insults =[ which is why I wanted the whole story out.

Rbread

Quote from: Toztie on Sep 11, 2006, 03:39 PM
well thats even worse then lro....... :-\
i suggest that yc makes a comment on the main site, under nikout ro with this forum link.
futhermore, ratemyserver will always a free shoulder for you to cry out on! :P :P

Can't do that.  Admins of RMS can't post slander about servers.

Usako

#4
but i can! lawl.

i know niktout from eA...i was never very impressed with him....not to mention he has a high rate server but that's beside the point.

i read the reviews and they were all calm and didn't turn to personally offending the admin. however the admin came right back at them with personal attacks. perhaps people like this shouldn't be allowed on RMS? Someone that tells every low rating person to grow up shouldn't have a server anyway. if you can't take honest critique and critisizm then gtfo the internet XD

Rbread

Well, I also know Niktout but I can't say I can judge him with precision.

I've speak with him every now and then, join his channel, crack jokes ETC

I can't tell him apart from other IRC'ers due to the fact that they're all alike. (Take travish, wishy, and Chii for example, they all like to kill teh riot).

I'm not taking any sides when I say this but there are a lot of server owners that are like Niktout.  Right now he is being singled out and getting his donkey roasted.

Usako

that's why i hate server owners that are like that equally XD

Xarale

I would like to add to this with my own story of my time on NiktoutRO.

Before I begin, I'd just like to tell you that I am 100% honest in all my comments.  I would not resort to lying to intentionally upset the server admin of the server in question.
The server admin will be referred to as Nik throughout this post.

NiktoutRO History
This was a nice server at first, I met a few friends here & joined up with their guild(From.Hell).  I soon discovered that the server admin played on it too as a legit character, infact.. he was the leader of the rival guild(Mystic Elves).  The Low-Rate server was quite small, so it was only our guild vs his guild during any GvG related competition.
Things were fine for a while, we'd often beat him in WoE.. and he'd sometimes beat us.  Nothing seemed suspicious at all.  However.. after about 3 weeks of repeated victories for our guild, things started to change.  Nik's legit character started to become godly & very hard to kill.  He made the mistake of posting screenies on his forum, bragging about all the MvPs he's killed.  The screenies showed him with equips such as:
+9 firelock shoes
+9 GTB buckler
+9 Nine tail muffler
+9 Cranial buckler
Ice Pick

He was also spotted vending a Mistress & Eddga card in his shop(for insane prices that no one could afford, he was doing it to show off), and bragged one night about his Angeling card in mIRC.  I find it highly odd that someone could have such card-finding luck on a server which had 7x drop rates at the time within a short space of time.
Despite this, we still stuck it out.. but tension started to build between the 2 guilds.  Niktout eventually resorted to harassing us unfairly.  I was issued 2 warnings on the forum by Nik, one of them for stating that we didn't have any active GMs around(which was a FACT), and the other for opposing his idea to turn the server into PK mode. 
The reasons for both warnings are hardly professional: http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1733/nikwarningiq8.jpg
He also became rude towards our guild members on the forum too, simply becuase we were his rivals. 

http://z11.invisionfree.com/NiktoutRO/index.php?showtopic=5673 (This was a simple debate I opened one day, and well.. as you can see, Nik didn't take it so well)

But it was more than just forum abuse, he started giving us a hard time in game too.  He'd literally use his GM powers to stalk us & unleash a wave of Dead Branches upon us whilst we tried to level.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2000/screenniktoutrolowrate021vj5.jpg (This is Nik bragging/hinting about how he killed us all with DBs)

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/2195/screenniktoutrolowrate065hj3.jpg (4 days later, and Nik unleashes more DBs on us.  Pretty sad thing for a server admin to do)

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/8868/screenniktoutrolowrate024dm8.jpg (This is Nik basically insulting one of our guild members)

He started becoming really childish towards our guild, and would stalk us constantly.. aswell as spy on our guild chat.  He obviously had GM powers on his legit as he managed to stalk me down whilst I was levelling in a remote location one night, and unleashed a mass of DBs on me. (Players didn't have @who/@whomap commands at this time)
He then changed the time of WoE at the very last minute(whilst his guild was online & active) without telling our guild.  When we asked, he simply said "should've read forums".. which was kinda hard since he changed the time at the very last minute, literally.

Breaking point came when he decided to turn the server into PK. (becuase our guild refused to WoE against him due to his cheating ways) We all made farewell posts on the forum, and we all got banned for it, our threads deleted aswell.  I can honestly say our posts weren't offensive in anyway, we're mature enough not to make insulting posts towards a server admin.


Overview
The fact is, Niktout is a very rude admin, who is epsecially rude to those who become his rivals of his 'legit' guild.  He screams at people & issues warnings to those who simply come to him to ask for help.  He also cannot take critisism from any player who happens to oppose him & his views.  He often resorts to banning & deleting any post which tells the truth about how he runs his server.  He even removed his old server reviews on this site due to the fact he had more negative reviews than positive.
http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=serverstat&serid=6&url_sname=NiktoutRO&page_num=1

If you'd like further proof of how rude & childish this admin is, simply check the replies of our recent reviews. 
http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=serverstat&serid=691&url_sname=Niktout%20Game%20Center&page_num=1
He can been seen here swearing at myself & my 3 friends(from the From.Hell guild, Nik's rival guild in NiktoutRO).  Hell, he's even insulting us for simply stating our opinion.  I notice he claims I broke loads of rules, which is a complete lie.  I would very much like a list of these apparent rules that I broke.  I was only banned for stating my opinion in a polite manner on his forums, and for stating that I was leaving the server.  He also screams GET LOST IRL, which seems like a personal attack to me.  I can understand it must be hard for a server admin to see negative reviews about their server, but they should least be professional when replying to the reviews.


It's quite sad, as Nik seemed like a nice person at first.  But it was soon clear that he was only nice really to those who joined his guild.  As Sentaku said, his guild members were often given gifts from Nik which were obviously created using GM powers.  He gave out 4 Solar God Helms within the space of 1 week to his favourite guild members, and expected us to believe he got them in a legit manner.  Let me remind you that the drop rate of the server was 7x at the time.  The sad thing is, even Nik's closest friends have confessed that Nik uses GM powers to gain items/equips.

Nik does have the potential to be a nice person, but he rarely shows it to most players.  Only to his closest friends & other important/well-known people.

Sorry for the long post! lol

Sentaku

>: Lol, Leash, your post really sums it up O.o I see my priest >.> yay....

But yes, everything Leash said is true, and there's plenty of other people out there that would agree with us...

Uhm, if I delete my old review, could I re-review with this link attached? I'm just wondering if that is allowed, thank you.

Honorbydeath

well me my self thinks he pays eathana to keep his donkey because i posted pictures of him banning people through msn/aim because they donated didnt get items when they asked he said f*** you im busy then banned them i had prove i posted and got ip banned from eathan for it pics and logs

Sentaku

O.o Wow, that's even worse then what I'd known he did.... You should totally post those on this topic >.>.... I want to link this in my review, but I'm unsure whether or not I am allowed to delete my review, re-do it, and post the link to this forum page in it. Because I really think this topic shows the REAL truth about that server. But I don't want to be breaking any of this sites rules, so I'll wait for a reply about it.

Nish

Heh just found this forum.. and yeah i'm also a nikRo player.

I was actually in your guild on the HR server months ago sentaku.. :)

Anyways, I agree with you guys.. Nik is the worst host/gm ever! I didnt realise til recently.

Basically i made a post about the ecomony going insane because there was a bug with the coin npc, so alot of people were abusing the bug and coming very rich
Tao cards went from 1bil to 50bil in a week, it was out of control.. No one had heard a thing from nik saying this was being looked into or going to be fixed.

So i made a post on the forums saying The economy was becoming a joke and i just wanted to make sure nik was aware of the issue because there was no gm's ingame ever!
Then he replies saying he knows etc in an aggresive manner acting like he knows everything and gives me a warning calling me a joke..

He is without a doubt the rudest person i have met in RO, i mean he comes across as a nice guy but then he has this annoying knowitall attitude side, its amazing what power
does to some people.

I mean i GMed on another server called moeRo a year or so back and yeah I would never treat people like he does.

Anyway thats my rant, I was going to post a rant thread on nik's forums but it would just get deleted anyway and i would get called something stoopid, I guess you cant beat power.

Anyway just be aware.. niktoutro HR has 2 new GM's now and there alright, oldskool players eden and macabro.. so hopefully you wont have to deal with Nik to much on there.
As for the LR i'm not sure whats the go with that these days, havent played LR in a while myself. Just not enough time anymore.

:)

Unmei

>.< He does stuff like that all the time

=o you were in our guild? what was your guild name? (is kitsuneko)

eden just kisses up to nik :< I remember macabro but I can't remember if they were decent or not o_O
feel free to poke us later =D (me and sentaku)

Sentaku

Eden and Maca.... Eden=He was the worst, he'd constantly gang up on me with Nik =\ But he can be nice when he wants to be.

Maca... I didn't know him too well, but I know Emmz was a friend of his, so I guess he isn't too bad.

Please tell me what your name was in my guild D: and have you had any contact with Jing? >: I miss a lot of my buddies, though a good bit of them left nRO with me.

Nish

Oo hi kitsuneko i remember you also :p

Yeah well they wouldnt be GM's today if they didnt suckup to nik..

Hmm my names back then were Technikal, Acid Bunny, Technique or something.. I honestly cant remember.. lol when i came back my account was wiped so i had to start again now i play as Nish.

Erm nope i dont have any contact with the old guild members sorry, I wasnt always around much because i was busy studying etc :(

Nice seeing you guys again, you were always kind and had a nice guild.. made me feel welcome.. NikRo now is a bit dull and not that good socially.

Ah well.

Sentaku

Ah, I think I remember you ^^ nice to see you again too =p

Aww, it's okay /ok

I'm glad you liked my guild =D ET continues on in various servers =p (we moved servers a lot XD)

If you ever need anything lemme know <3

Nish

Hehe okay thanks.

Hmm yeah i used to be a server jumper alot, but i'm kinda strong enough now to kill ppl on nik.. unless some donator owns me >.>
So i will stick with it for a while i guess.. :p

What server you guys currently on ? I take it your still playing low rate :)

Unmei

we played a MR for a while that we really liked but then it kind of went kablooie XD

we're currently playing a low HR uRO which is really nice ^^

Nish

ahh cool, thought you may have been driven away by niktout already :P

Hehe well have fun! i'm still on HR.. suits my laziness ;)

Unmei

that has what to do with this topic?

laecertus

nothin x_X (taht s my point ) ....

Unmei


laecertus

hah forget it im  WAY TOO SIMPLE FOR  YOU ;D

Honorbydeath

in my personal experience the server was horrible lagy and donation only good the community was pathetic
the gms corrupt and not fun
the gm scamed some donators so it was horrible i thought ^_^

Nish

Heh there a few rumours bout what nik does with the donation money.. i honestly dont know :o

The lag has been an issue for months now, constant problems with the host.. but he wont change host for some reason.


Unmei

it's probably cheaper so he can get more money :<

have you seen his replys to the reviews on his server? D:...doesn't make him look very good rofl

Honorbydeath

i honestly do know cas i met him and talked to him got the info just to backstab him and prove he was a scammer

yC

now come to think of it, i was at their forum a while ago... was there a *particular reason* that they dont accept paypal (anymore)? tsk tsk

Honorbydeath

he doesnt trust them because they took his money away because the guy didnt get his item so he asked nik to get on nik said suck my **** nigger to him ( i know this cas i know the guy ) so paypal got the money back for him and now he doesnt use paypal

Sentaku

I'm not sure if it was true, but there is a lot of speculation about the donating. I've heard from many people that when they donated they never recieved their item, and when they told this to Nik, he did nothing about it. I also heard that he used some of his donation money to go on 'trips', but this I'm not sure about, since I heard it from others. The paypal thing... uh... gee I can't remember, I think it was after I left nRO o.o'

laecertus

nope every donator get it s set ;p

Honorbydeath

I'm not sure if it was true, but there is a lot of speculation about the donating. I've heard from many people that when they donated they never recieved their item, and when they told this to Nik, he did nothing about it. I also heard that he used some of his donation money to go on 'trips', but this I'm not sure about, since I heard it from others. The paypal thing... uh... gee I can't remember, I think it was after I left nRO o.o'



it is true i had prove and my friends were scammed i proved it on ea to make him look bad they banned me cas it wasnt belonging there

Nish

Well he's made a fair bit of money of the server so i'm sure a bit goes towards trips etc.. besides the server, It doesnt cost that much to host an RO server. The hosting is pretty crap anyway, so it couldnt cost that much.

I would never give my money to nik.. actually i wouldnt give it to any server that has donation items, Most admin's are just greedy.


Honorbydeath

you can tell it doesnt go for the dam server your a idiot if you belive it its the same for f*** aegis server uhh the lr one UHH thinks o ya anima
they say it has over 1500 on most donate but its lagy if it was true it went to the server it wouldnt lag but it doesnt and people support and its same ofr nikout it has 400 and lags like f*** and crashes and s*** over 200 donate so they are f*** idiots for screwing them selfs over

Xarale

In all honesty, I wouldn't put it past Niktout to scam people.  He's already proven himself to be dishonest (check my post on page1), aswell as rude/nasty to various players on his server, so I'm sure he wouldn't feel any remorse from stealing money from people.  Thing is, there's no real way to prove & put a stop to Nik even if he is scamming. :<

tatacho

Warning: this server client contains nasty adware. Not a false positive.

Xarale

Quote from: tatacho on Dec 07, 2018, 11:03 AM
Warning: this server client contains nasty adware. Not a false positive.
Woah, this thread has not seen any life in 12 years.  That's one hell of an impressive necro post.

In all seriousness though, I did not even realise Niktout was still going!  Given his past actions though, it would not surprise me if his server client really did contain adware.

Thanks for stopping by and letting us know.

Sheesh I can't believe it's been 12 years since I played there..

-X.

scrollLock

wow. i played in this server back then.

does that make me old?  /swt